/NBA/ General

No, it's canceled this year bro.

Give me a quick rundown on the state of this franchise.

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Whi got his Navy SEAL hacker buddies to scrub his footprints off the internet. He only allows what he wants you to see.

His second child is a boy, named after KL2's murdered father Mark. The circumstances of Mark's birth was the first significant clue what KL2 planned for the off-season.

t. another knower

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>nba meetup
>anime expo
the fuck?

>anime

bummer and I was looking forward to drinking some beers with /nba/ again at the yardhouse by staples center....

The FO finally got their shit together, but might still not make the playoffs depending on what happens in free agency due to the team's lack of experience.

Here's a photo I took in 2010. I had seats behind the Cavs bench.

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I will unironically become a Lakies man if that happens

Great photo user, glad to see some OC here!

Pictured: Danny Green, Shaq, Jamario Moon, LeBron James, and Mike Brown.

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKERS
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERS

As of 6 pm Sunday, June 30th: no longer the most worthless incompetently managed team

>Um, In this fall, uh hu huh this is very easy. Um, In this fall I'm gonna take my talents to SOCAL and, um, join the Los Angeles Lakers.

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sean bb will go down as one of the biggest rivalries here

>have the vast majority of your cap space tied up in only three players
>finally open up a significant amount of cap space
>blow it on a fourth extremely expensive player

What did the Lakers mean by this?

>So you rank them Embiid > Davis > Jokic???
>You are wrong, it is Jokic > Davis > Embiid.

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Lou Williams said nobody wants to raise their kid in Canada lmao. SO true. Imagine how emasculating that is as a black man.

Kawhi isn't any more secretive or mysterious than others. It is just a meme that got out of hand.

C's will give kemba irving's number more likely to erase the bad after taste he left them on his way to NY

>Kemba to Boston
>Kyrie to Nets
>Jimbo to Rockets

It means they got Kawhi

>Jimbo to Rockets
shouldn't you be fixing your cap space instead of shitposting, Daryl

they claimed Garnett from the Twolves. They will easily take Kemba.

No post will come from this IP again

he just doesn't use social media anymore so the media got BTFO

>Kemba is not as good of a player as Kyrie in a vacuum
>however, Kemba is much less of a team cancer than Kyrie

Anyone think the Celtics might be ultimately better off this way?

It's just retro now bruh

Same as always since the league went out of their way to say "we'll never let you win anything"
In it for the profit while fielding a garbage team by filling the seats with either a superstar player or a "young up and coming core" which will all be let go/traded by the time they become anything

>3 more days

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what's so emasculating about canada?

davis with lebron by his side might turn into a god

>Hey Lakeniggers. Heard j'almst need guards.

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I mean no one knows what the fuck half the players in the league are going to do in free agency but Kawhi is actually the GOAT so there is more mystique.

Long as Kemba ain't in a weird ass cult or flat Earth theories they are already a better team than they were two years ago before they traded fir Irving.

Speaking of, both C's and Cavs actually lost that trade pretty bad desu

nah the rankings as they currently stand are Jokic = Embiid (because it's debatable who's really better) > Davis

In a similar boat. I'm a lifelong Cavs fan. Those clam chowder sniffing dolts in Boston acted like they were hot shit after acquiring Kyrie from us. I couldn't stand it. They are some of the most smug ugly fans in the league. They act like their shit doesn't stink and it bothers the hell out of me. I want nothing more than to see their franchise crumble.

This a star driven league, Kyrie, AD, LBJ would be unstoppable. Bench doesn't matter when one of these guys are on the court.

What happened to the Knicks' plans?

>bench doesn't matter
tell that to the sixers and the warriors lmao

Is there anything fucking worse than Twitter/Instagram babies that don't believe any NBA rumors that don't come from the horse's mouth?

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>better 3% than Steph last year and career
>is lucky to get off the bench on most teams

The Warriors didn't have a bench in 2017 or 2018. They sacrificed their bench to pay 4 all stars and iguodala. I think the reason they lost their year was because their superstar powerhouse player got injured. The Sixers were coached very poorly and were very close to Toronto in their series. Overall I think coaches would choose having superstars over a quality bench.

Warriors lost starters not bench players. You ain't beating Board Man without 2 of your top 3 players.

Dolan blew his load and Knicks ended up with nobody but KD who can't even play next year. Kek Knicks fans are loyal af niggas but they're lives are nothing but suffering.

Based on playoff performance it is more like Jokic = Davis > Embiid. And im a philthy fan

>we gon get Zion
>no number 1
>we gon get KD
>more likely to go to Brooklyn or stay with GSW
>we gon get Kyrie
>still could happen, but not a huge draw

Who you guys want for president?

For me I think it is Yang (meme, I know) > Gabbard > Bernie > Trump > Biden > everyone else

I literally called out the Warriors were rushing the players back from injury too quickly and Twitter came down on me for spreading lies and slander. Deleted my account and don't intend on going back. I haven't been wrong on a single one of my insinuations in regards to the behavior of players and organizations, but psychos on Twitter will defend anything and everything. I hope Iguodala destroys the Warriors with his book.

we dont talk that here

Is Larry Johnson a Hornet or a Knick? Is Alonzo Mourning a Hornet or the Heat?

There's your answer

yo shutup

yang. completely boring guy with no real media presence so i don't have to hear about it all day every day

tax the rich

Sorry IRS but your money is in another Tax Haven

tax the kikes

Warren or Sanders preferably, but any Dem except Biden is fine
I don't want to leave college with $160,000 in debt

therefore no attempt should be made lmao americans

fuck off back to /pol/

>$160,000
Wtf

i;m libreal as fuck but I don't believe in giving out a free education, imo having debt teaches you responablity and if it really bothers you that much just ask ur parents to pay it off, it worked for me....

Unironically, Sanders. I know it's against the /pol/ norms of this website, but w/e we're in /nba/

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Zion Don just because I want the country to rot

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>imo having debt teaches you responablity and if it really bothers you that much just ask ur parents to pay it off, it worked for me....

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Shut up about what? I've been right on a shit-load on counts. The Porzingis boos being unjustified, Anthony being locker room cancer, Lonzo Ball's ceiling being below the average starter, etc. and every fucking time I've been had shit flung at me. I'm done shutting up. You guys start being right, then talk. I've earned my right to talk by virtue of having a hundred percent hit rate on being RIGHT every time I called something out. You start actually getting things right. No one wants to here you spout out another deuce.

>I am literally retarded with money so please elect whichever communist planning to crash the economy so my Barista Studies degree doesn't bite me in the ass
you aren't all actually J-wearing unemployed leeches are you?

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Trump. Duh.

The fact I'm somehow the first to post this is the probably the reason for the semen-slurping state of this general desu

Go back to your containment board

I'm a student pilot

>i;m libreal as fuck but I don't believe in giving out a free education, imo having debt teaches you responablity and if it really bothers you that much just ask ur parents to pay it off, it worked for me....
Jesus Christ I refuse to believe you attended anything resembling higher education. Also everyone has (or should have) the right to an education

Cope harder you fucking nigger
>spend trillions on an endless war in the middle east
>lose billions on tax cuts for the rich
>...
>ease the $1.3 trillion student loan crisis to boost the economy
>WOAH BUDDY MONEY DOESN'T GROW ON TREES

Pelicans and Wizards are now my allies

Yang > Tulsi > Trump > shit > everyone else > Harris

b-but we have to fight those wars to establish dominance!!

Is /lol/ still talking about the debates lmao we all know the Dems are picking Creepy Joe already.

FUCK OFF

Wow I'm glad /nba/ isn't a bunch of fart sucking trumpets. Honestly proud of j'almst

i have a degreee in psychology from ucsc(one of the top universities in the world)....

i still don't understand why would KD go to the knicks??? what is he trying to prove???

Nah no way Biden wins. He isn’t left enough for democratic voters.

I honestly think it's Bernie's time granted he doesn't die soon.

>buh buh buh it's students trying to create any possibility for making a living that are going to sink the economy!!!! not the $600 billion dollars that are sunk into 'national defense' yearly!!!!
Capitalist bootlickers really are embarrassing aren't they?

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Because most of this board is wise to the idea that Trump is a fucking con artist who baited his own base hook line and sinker.

God I hope not. Biden is fucking terrible

Would be based

Bernie.

Just lmao. That's all I gotta say to you.

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ok which one of you stole my post and posted it in the general

Could bill russell play in today's nba?

reddit.com/r/nba/comments/c6erqz/bill_russell_casually_jumps_over_a_man_on_the/

>based on playoff performance
>Davis

Are the Raptors gonna make it back to back?

>88

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Bernie will actually ruin the market with his tax memeing. Just pull for Yang instead.

Probably if Kawhi stays. West is looking weaker than ever with the Warriors killed by injuries

1 more appearance than Jokic, same amount as Embiid.

davis has pretty gaudy playoff stats imo

vSeason
▼ Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
2017-18 24 NOP NBA PF 9 9 39.8 11.8 22.7 .520 0.7 2.4 .273 11.1 20.2 .549 .534 5.9 7.1 .828 2.7 10.8 13.4 1.7 2.0 2.3 2.6 3.3 30.1
2014-15 21 NOP NBA PF 4 4 43.0 11.8 21.8 .540 0.0 0.5 .000 11.8 21.3 .553 .540 8.0 9.0 .889 2.3 8.8 11.0 2.0 1.3 3.0 3.3 3.0 31.5

Had to do it.
This is how you lose an election
Seth would fit well on the Lakies.

oh thanks for sharing i can totally make sense of the fucking puke puddle of numbers you put on my screen you absolute cockshank

Yang is an even worse meme than Sanders

sanders
fuck the rest of the neoliberal stooges

When you reply to Clips, you always lose

awesome! thanks for contributing to the basketball discussion here!

It's not our fault you don't understand how to read statistics.... I'[m willing to bet dollars to donuts that everyone else here had no probelm with my research...

Considering he beat Wilt as often as he did and if he was trained like today's athletes yes. Would he be a top 5 center all time and have 11 rings? Fuck no.

lakers need pat mccaw if they want to win

hi guys
i just got back from work

>Larry dies
>Fat4Lyfe returns

This general is doomed. I hope the Clippers suck this upcoming season so he goes away once again.

Asterisk title.

Just filter

Based

>6'9 215lb
Maybe in the D league

All of the old GOATs would be elite as fuck in the modern NBA, they'd just have to adjust their playstyles a little.

Imagine Kareem in the modern NBA. He never shot threes, but that's just because threes weren't valued in his time. I bet he could memechuck as good as anyone. He'd be like a supercharged version of Embiid, an Embiid who was even faster and who never fucking got tired or missed games with injuries. It would be insane.

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>Wizards brought in nobodies to stunt /ourguy/'s growth
Should have known baka

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>LA shits and Bombston think they're relevant teams now
>outpouring of underage commies appear
fuck OFF to reddit

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I'm no wizards fan but Im rooting for rui.. apparently.he's a huge manga fan, am hoping to get him as a influencer

It required insane touch to do his skyhook. Agreed that he would have learned to meme chuck with the best of them.

he'd bulk up nowadays, bakc then they didn't have the same kind of nutrition or physical phitness

it's just kinda jarring to see old footage because you don't think they were as althletic back then

It's probably not because of the "lack of athleticism". It was more like in the 70s, everyone played as high as a kite.

For me, it's #45 MJ

going to the bar for my friend's 21st, tryna mack on some milfs will report back later

10 Day and Acid Rap are now on streaming services

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Trump just for the salt explosion

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Knickbros, when is this team gonna win. Watching the raps win a chip is frustrating. I just wanna watch my team win in my lifeime

For me, it's Kanye.

Honestly surprised that Nips love this guy so much even though he's black

Pretty cool though I've had Acid Rap downloaded for years

>Durant/Kemba on the Knicks
>Klay/Kyrie on the Nets

This would unironically be the best thing for the entire sport and start a new generation of ballers in every borough, but nah we gotta have the shit ass SoCal retards hog it all again huh

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Japan doesn't care for Ape Hop as much as China, but now they're glad they have a first rounder representing them. He's Japan born and was monolingual Japanese until college.

And yes, you (you'd) me twice. I highly suggest listening to 10 day. It's one of my favorite mixtapes from that early 2010s era. Nostalgia is my favorite Chance track. I could never get into Acid Rap, but I know a lot of people love it.

until dolan dies or is forced out they aren't gonna win. dolan did something to piss silver off either in the owners meeting or him just kicking out fans and nba legends from MSG. he's never gifting them a #1 pick and he grew up a knicks fan

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>Michael Jordan
Yes he is

Celtics have a legit chance to score Kemba, plus Durant is more likely to go to Brooklyn or stay with GSW than go to NY
Plus if Kyrie goes to Brooklyn, DLo is gone

Yeah they definitely like baseball more than anything. Still just weird to think about a black guy coming from Japan. Imagine a Japanese guy from the Congo or something
Might as well give it a listen since I enjoyed the aforementioned to, and since it's on Spotify now. Thanks

How is Larry so much taller than Magic and Jordan? He's listed at 6'9.

Based Racist Boomer Biden

>Kemba is heading to Bombston
Will he finally beat LeBron in a regular season game? It's sad that LeBron even went as far as to drop 61 on his team lmao

why the fuck does kemba want to go to boston?

It's amazing. Kemba has a 0-27 record against LeBron (including all star games). LeBron also double hates Boston. Kemba will never beat LeBron.

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let's pretend for a minute MJ cucks Boston at the last second and gives Kemba $180/5 no matter the cap situation

how do Celshits and Ainge respond?

>commie sticks up for another commie
Kay

sup /nba/

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Kyrie is the poison pill of this offseason. Whichever team he goes to will not be a contender.

>Cleveland Soccer
based.

kawhi on da way

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Everyone still wants to join the Lakers. Right? RIGHT!?

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why is frog cry

This but Butler to a much greater extent

Nah I legit think Butler has been on all the wrong teams. He's the perfect "2nd/3rd best player on a championship team."

kyrie to LA

Are you serious? His ego would never let him accept being the 2nd/3rd best player, look at the fucking state he left Minnesota in

What’s a good outdoor guard dog?

Lakers winning the 2020 nba championship on abc network

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we gon get kawhi

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Poodle if real.

so uhhh, what do we do when kawhi leaves?

desu he just seems like the type to hate zoomers. I don't see what you mean by how he left Minnesota. He was pissed off that he was the best player when Wiggins and KAT had all the god given talents. Jimmy Butler would fit perfectly with LeBron and AD personality AND basketball fit wise. He has no issue deferring and if anything, LeBron and Davis would defer to him to get a bucket, similar to how Kyrie was used in Cleveland.

>J.R "Hennything is possible" Smith redemption arc
I am all for it.

Looks like i'm slurping down a vodka soda tonight, gentlemen. glug glug glug glug. God, Cleveland would be so depressing if we didn't have Polish food.

JR in LA would be like handing a fat kid a shopping spree in Dairy Queen

Erect a statue in his image and go back to being a joke.

KAT literally didn't want to play basketball until his near-death experience

Green is leaving too so you guys are pretty fucked. Probably 5th seed if you replace them with league average players. Gasol and Lowry for 1 more year. After that it is a rebuild and sucking for a decade while Ujirii gets exposed.

all we need is kemba

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Rebuild

I was at Hornets @ Cavs this season game in December. It was one of the few games JR Smith played this season. It's amazing watching him from the sidelines. He's a bench player warrior who brings so much energy. Teammates love the guy. One of my favorite Cavs from the LeBron return. I don't care if the lakeshits want him, as long as they treat him nice and he gets buckets.

night losers

Starting to sweat not gonna lie bros.

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dobranoc kolego

Hes been there twice.

>Clippers and Lakies with the same odds
Wouldn't the Clippers need to get Kyrie/Jimmy on board too?

clippers have cap space and a team.

I dun get it

>"I have an army"
>"We have Bron (and AD)"

Anyone live in or from dallas? what is there to do in downtown near the cotton bowl/fairgrounds?

If you bet 100 on Kawhi signing with the nets and he does, you'll get 5k. If you bet 125 on him staying with the Raptors and he does, you'll get 100.

bet on him load managing game 1

>Cloppers

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

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lakers in two

Have the Clipshits ever gotten ANYONE?

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FUCK WOJ

FUCK BALMER

FUCK THE CLIPPERS

HOES MAD x24

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zion is odds on to not have a HOF career.

>big time free agents going to the CLIPPERS

THEY HANG SELFIES LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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this

I'm willing to bet my life that the clips will sign kawahi...

espn forcast lol bunch of uninformed "analists" talking outta their mouths....

I will literally kick you with my fist if Kawhi stays in Toronto.

Pull up

;_;7 cap space ;_;7

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just did an extremely runny Boston Celtics

"""assets"""

Who cares wtf kawhi does anymore, tired of the "where is he going" meme.

Why wouldn't MJ sign Kemba so he can at least use Kemba as a trade asset? Is he scared of Luxury tax?

this is an extremely obvious thing to say

sign-and-trades mostly don't work anymore for salary cap reasons that I can't be bothered to look up

but basically: it doesn't work that way and also Kemba probably doesn't want to re-sign there

Yeah I'm sure Kawhi wants to get treated like he's the third most important player on the team

WHO CARES WHAT KAWHI DOES ANYMORE. FFS. I JUST WANT TO WATCH SOME GOOD HOOPS DAMN IT.

Kemba is open to signing with Charlotte. Not a sign and trade. But sign him, and trade him in february for assets. They're erasing $50m off the books next season with a bunch of contracts including biyombo, gilchrest, and some others so they would only be in luxury tax for this year. I guess Michael Jordan believes it's not worth keeping Kemba because he will only be in luxury tax for a single year. DESU it sounds very greedy on Jordan's part. If I'm a Hornets fan I would be pissed as fuck watching Kemba in Boston.

Are you saying he can't even reach the level of NBA legends Jack Sikma and Richard Geurin?

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I'll be in toronto next year for tcaf, but i doubt you'd actually show up....

>[ESPN Forecast Panel]

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>Kemba is open to signing with Charlotte.

It sounded from reports today like Kemba didn't want to sign there, maybe that was just agent smoke-and-mirrors. it's not really about being greedy. he definitely wouldn't re-sign there just so they could deal him in february

if they wanted to get assets for Kemba, they could have traded him last season, and they chose not to. that was probably a mistake but they rolled the dice that he would stay

1/3 was the chance that Trump would win on election night

if Zion got to play in the 60s or 70s, he would definitely make the hall of fame, let's be honest

HEY ERNIE... I'M TALKIN' BOUT THAT BIG OH BOOTY

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WITH THE FIRST PICK I SELECT
...
ALLEN IVERSON

Jimmy Butler is a huge asshole but also the Bulls and Timberwolves are both awful organizations and he can definitely help your team win in the playoffs

Guys like that just want to deal with people they can respect

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You realize Bill Russel played in the 60s right? If you were being serious just log off right now. I can't deal with you niggas.

HEY SHAQ, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY DATING ONE OF THEM BIG OL' WOMEN DOWN IN SAN ANTONIO
*mimics eating two giant churros*

>the sad thing is zion woulodn't been allowed to play in the 60 s or 70s maybe only in the negro league but not in the nba due to segregreation
Nigger what? Chamberlain played in the 60's despite cultural norms

Porn fucking when? Doesn't she ever leave her house? I don't think I've ever seen a picture of her walking around in public.

all 4 of us fucking hate that gambling nigger with a passion, awful owner protected by his playing legacy

MJ won't touch the tax and because of that there's literally no money left for Walker

not gonna lie if he actually signs in Boston it really sours how I feel about him, at least go to the Mavs or Pacers to compete if you're leaving. Don't replace Kyrie in Boston and get relegated to Tatum's babysitter

iconic.... legendary

racism is the scourge of american history, yes, but the first black players entered the NBA in 1950

*farts*

woah woah quit being racist. we don't tolerate that shit here

>not gonna lie if he actually signs in Boston it really sours how I feel about him, at least go to the Mavs or Pacers to compete if you're leaving. Don't replace Kyrie in Boston and get relegated to Tatum's babysitter

IDK I don't think there's that much difference between any of them in that regard. Oladipo's babysitter in Indy, Luka's babysitter in Dallas

I think the Dallas team would be the most fun to watch though

>the Mavs
only the dumbest players would ever sign there

Earl Lloyd was the Jackie Robinson of basketball

also no one should respect Andrew Wiggins under any circumstances

you should abandon this trip. for shame

butler doesn't have respect for anyone, it's why rondo called him and wade out when they were all on the bulls

Westbrook is a dumb chucking nigger who has never playing winning basketball and will be overrated in history for his meaningless regular season numbers.

>60s and 70s
>"the negro league"
Please, go educate yourself on the history of the sport and the country. The 60s were ran by fucking Bill Russell who was a player-coach for a while. This also encompasses the time when Muhammad fucking Ali was one of the biggest draws in all of sports. Holy shit.

I respect wiggins for having one of the greatest hoopmixtapes of all time:

youtube.com/watch?v=GLsK-ZoL9sY

There was still a ton of racism even though blacks were still allowed, didn't Russell bear a grudge against Boston for decades because of how they treated him? Same with Ali, lotta people hated Ali

But yeah people were allowed to play

he's a fucking Canadian fraud

LeBron would respect Butler because he honed his craft and works hard on his game. Rajon Rondo has always been a diva stat padder (look at how the 08 Celtics all treat Ray Allen. Bunch of emotional lesbians.) Also, I know this is a fairly cold take, but Dwyane Wade is a weirdo. Wade seems super naive, moody, and just a weird guy in general. He treated this retirement ceremony as if he's an NBA legend. He is narcissistic as fuck, and even was one of the drama queens on the '18 Cavs, even though he was fat as fuck (also a fat boy in Chicago). I don't blame Jimmy Buttler for being vocal over his bum ass teammates.

Dwyane Wade is an NBA legend and so is Kevin Garnett

also Ray Allen is a basketball autist

NBA players are weirdos and it fucking rules

Butler called out Rondo and Wade for not practicing. Yes they are vets, but they apparently always sat out practice.

Westbrook lives and plays in Oklahoma City, go there during the season and tell him this to his face because telling us up on the sports section of a Cambodian cow selling isn’t doing anything

nothign wrong with vets not 'ticing, vets get a pass for not practicing in the nfl, ppl don't realize the nba is just as physical guys who have played 15+ years in the nba like wade and rondo desreve to skip practice when they want

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Take it easy, #WadeCounty

if you're a vet and you don't practice then honestly retire and give up your roster spot to another player

None of you will ever believe this on a free forum and I never post, but it was a common rumor in Charlotte that the Hornets stalled on trading Kemba because of the 2019 All-Star Game. They had to keep him around to make an appearance as hosts, but the plan had originally been to trade him in 2017 (the year they were supposed to host, but lost because of state politics).

Their entire plan was shifted because of that loss, and when it looked like they could still make the playoffs Jordan decided to keep him around. That's what all the "Kemba to the Cavs for one last playoff push" smoke was about.

Kemba is signing in Boston for way less because Jordan never gave him an offer. Give it 2 years and the rumors will start coming out, but the whole team is mad at MJ over it and it pretty much ruined the city for good to Kemba.

honestly it doesn't sound impossible to me.

All bad owners should be forced to sell their teams. Ridiculous that the NBA screws over a city with a terrible owner like MJ.

I nutted on her face

Her new nickname babyface

I thought Cleveland would have traded for him in 2018 if LeBron committed to staying? Something something Nets pick (pre-lottery) package??

You got it wrong. It was Rondo who publicly called out D-Wade and Jimmy B for not practicing AND for blaming the Bulls' young players for that shitty season.

>we gon keep kawhi

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I haven't touched a basketball since middle school nearly 14 years ago

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it's not about practice it's about games dumbass
going hard in practice is a stupid thibs idea

Legitimate question

Can anyone fuck with my handles?

glad wade is gone. that guy was a horrible flopper. remember that commercial where he's always on the ground and gets up? give me a break people have short term memories. of course the nba refs will always prop up some guy
youtube.com/watch?v=aySGUzzxjGE

no but I can fuck you ;)

if u wanna laugh your ass off then look up dwyane wade 2006 finals FTA

Epic, I'm stealing this for my mixtape.

youtube.com/watch?v=DEJYlMdFGsw

>taking pics with SO on social networks
Good to know your relationship is dying. At least Boomers tried having kids

>BABYFACE BAMBINO?
>THE GANGSTER?

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So weird how people fondly love wade now but back then hated him and Kobe.

Carmelo and Lebron were the most beloved and ironically today they’re the most hated to a degree

LeBron will be remembered fondly and then inevitably made into an urban legend ie MAMBA MENTALITY MOST CLUTCH SHOOTING GUARD OF ALL TIME

youtube.com/watch?v=SJmyMfpbsMY

I still fucking hate Kobe

Wade rules though and we were wrong about him then

this is the new lakers bitches.

bow down when we come to your town

you think this is a game?

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How did get deleted? Did a certain trip not want us to discuss this?

In 100yrs 3s will be layups

i forgot about that. dude broke kobes nose in an allstar game

There aren't any recordings or anything that will end up on Undisputed, etc. but it was evidently very ugly when Jordan found out Ainge had been sending feelers and getting warm responses from Kemba's camp. Suffice to say he loved the fans but MJ's consistent attitude and reaction hurt him enough to just close the door. Just poor team execution from start to finish.

Jordan was "open to options" at that point, but had told Walker differently in confidence. A deal never came through because Jordan wanted an All-Star in return, plus a 1st-round pick OR offloading of one of their heavier contracts. The issue was Jordan kept making statements that ruined Rich Cho's ongoing talks, reducing his own team's leverage.

The "betrayal" by MJ is when talk of a growing rift really started to circulate. The front office is in a state of disarray, sources brought into the organization were let go with no warning and we're forced to assume Jordan caught wind of people gossiping to outsiders at the paper.

Go to bed, Kyrie

so
>tldr
Michael Jordan is a shitty-ass owner who should sell the team.

Clipps4life said the sad thing is zion woulodn't been allowed to play in the 60 s or 70s maybe only in the negro league but not in the nba due to segregreation
>A trip said that
>Literally

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jordan has probably so many other business ventures that there is no way he could be qualified to make basketball decisions for a team. the disconnect between the players would be too much not to mention him drafting anyone. you think jordan is really evaluating these college kids properly to be making draft choices? he's probably gone half the time. but who is gonna stand up to jordan the literal goat of basketball

jordan literally wants to have shitty players so he doesn't have to pay them big contracts. he looks at owning the hornets as a business. kemba was their only "star" who sold tickets. don't be surprised if Jordan is forced to sell the team within 5 years after their records dip.

bro's lay cash on philly to win the chip, they're 10:1

if for some reason rockets are retarded enough to get jimmy, philly's odds will cut and then when they're in the ecf cash out

literally free money

yeah this is happening

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MJ being forced to sell would be amazing for us. The drafts have improved in the last couple years (Bridges, Bacon, Graham all look like they'll be good, hopefully Monk improves and Washington looks like a good fit for us) but MJ and the FO regardless of who the GM is have absolutely no idea how to do contracts or make trades at fucking all.

Clips4life should feel embarrassed to use that trip ever again

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Idk how you can hate him when he’s the Hero of Miami. Compare this to the other 3
>Lebron
asserts his Dominance as the best player for over a decade, brought a chip to the Land of Misery like Cleveland. Absolutely despised because of Jordan comparisons, People salty that it’s Jordan vs Lebron and not Jordan vs Kobe, Dan Gilbert, and essentially just the distaste people have for him being a Mercenary compared to the older generation of superstars and incapable of separating the eras of the game.
>Cp3
Labeled as a top 5 pg of all time, FoH. Head of the players union. All such very nice accolades for someone that hasn’t won jack shit or seen the finals. Also a team obliterating cancer that couldn’t get along with anybody
>Carmelo Anthony
#3 pick of the draft, could’ve been 2# if not for the idiocy surrounding a certain European player. Considered a College player hero for his achievements there. Same exact fucking career as Cp3 I’m terms of being a cancer and hopping around teams to teams. Only difference that made it worse were the fact that he played for the Knicks and had a golden opportunity to be apart of the Big 3 in Miami but instead went for the money.

What has Dwade ever done to incur any sort of ill will towards himself as a basketball player compared to his more controversial and complicated banana boat brothers? Just being in proximity to Lebron James?

based

jim is staying btw

2006

A team in that flyover shithole city will never build a championship caliber team. Relocate them to Mexico.

Its not even the dumbest thing hes posted though, its just nonstop retardation from that moron

hope not, capela/gordon/tucker would fit philly so well

>still here talking shit
do you have nothing better to do pablo? Surely you have to get up early for that minimum wage job of yours don't you?

embiid/simmons/butler plus harris and the rest of the roster is already enough to win, run it back, easy chip

ye they would be handy but not at butlers expense. He's like automatic free buckets in crunch time.

I really hope they can work it out to bring them all back but it's too expensive

who wins in a best of 7

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this flyover is still seething sorry sweetie kemba is gone

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dream team lost to college kids, so probably lebrons

they beat teams by an average of 43.8 points

Team LeBron. Just iso harden and he will literally be unstoppable. Those 90s players wouldn't know what the fuck to do and eventually chimp out and elbow him for a flagrant.

>MJ's team is so bad they deserve open ridicule from the entire NBA
>gets upset because it isn't MY TEAM being talked about instead
explain this phenomenon to me

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Klay Thompson, Beal, LeBron, Dame, Harden, Durant. They would destroy that team in shooting alone. Forget inside defense and posting up bigs.

no its not bro the only expense is the owners coughing up the shekels to pay the tax. Which i believe they said they would do . I will be shocked if harris and butler dont both get maxes

they will just move the line back if they start making too many. then when the percentages go down they will move it back in. They do the same when they raise and lower the mound in baseball

Needs more "you know"

They have two franchise players on their roster who are 20-21 respectively. It will be a few years, but they’ll be contenders in the next 5 years. Also they need a ducking Center

What’s a good man documentary

Fuck meant nba

Faggot ass autocorrect

there's an ESPN 30 for 30 on Shaq's Orlando Magic days called "This Magic Moment" and it's a fun watch.
Vince Carter one is fun but they completely glamorize the way he man babied his way out of Toronto. The Dirk Nowitzki documentary is entertaining but kind of light.

Bros I've rooted for the Raptors for as long as I've watched basketball and they finally won a championship do I keep watching basketball or is it over?

how long have you watched ape hop

I'll go with the greatest team ever assembled.

brook lopez is backing up the brinks truck this summer

Well I'm 20 and my dad always watched it so like my whole life I cant really remember exactly my first time watching a game.

>Klay Thompson will reportedly look at Lakers, Clippers

Jesus fuck the memeors are drifting into the abyss

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What state are you in

Georgia why?

basketball is over for you

>James Harden just had the best offensive season in the NBA
>Let's give possessions to Jimmy Butler
Trade isn't happening folks

>James Harden just had the best offensive season in the NBA

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/LP/ mega bros hip report in

Lakers Pelicans gang gang

CHEEEA

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I feel like everyone in the world thinks the Lakers should blow their cap space on 1 FA. I mean sure if it's Kawhi that's a no brainer. But there's nobody else that's going to get a max this FA period, that by themselves, isn't better than a combination of a quality guys.

Wouldn't you rather have PatBev and Bojan for 8-12 each (20M), Austin Rivers for 6-8 (call it 28M) , then Seth Curry or Redick or an actually good Center (Dedmon?) on whatever version of the MLE the Lakers have, with guys like RoLo, McGee, Rondo, Ariza, Wes Matthews and other such ring chasers/vets on the vet minimums? How is that not better than Kyrie or Jimmy or Kemba or DLo and nobody but minimums?

>Bronsquad trots out a lineup of Klay, Kawhi, KD, LeBron, AD
>Dream Team has literally no answer besides MJ on someone that's not KD or AD

no

>free agents literally don't want to sign with the Mavericks

Can somebody explain this to me? What's so shitty about the Mavs? It can't just be that they're a Texas city. The Rockets don't have a problem signing free agents, and Houston is worse than Dallas as a city by any objective measure.

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the owner is abnoxious and nobody in the league was friends with nowitzki other than his former role player teammates, same will be for luka/zingis

>6 LeBron coming back

league is fucked desu, 3peat incoming

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Warriors draft picks could be legit lottery sleepers

if you was ring chasing which would be the team to join in the off season?

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LeBron needs to wear a mask again. Every time these players wear masks they dominate. Remember The Masked Mamba?

it's not just dallas. a lot of teams have trouble signing free agents. houston lucked out with harden and honestly he probably just signed with houston cause he like the strip clubs there

leafs with kawhi would still be the favorites

>Houston is worse than Dallas as a city by any objective measure.
It's not an objective measure. Its by a young, extremely rich black guy measure. And by that measure, Houston blows Dallas out of the water. Houston is right behind Atlanta in that regard.

There's also a combination of things like Carlisle being a no-nonsense type coach like Pop, except he's not nearly as good as Pop.
The Mavs have basically just been treading water until Dirk retired for most of the last decade and it's been really obvious, so as a top tier FA, you're going somewhere else to win. Cuban blew up their championship roster then overpaid mid-tier FAs over and over again. Not exactly an appealing destination.
If you went there as a FA, you'll never be the face of the team because Dirk is there.

I think now that Dirk is gone and the team has (finally) gone with youth over expensive upper-mid veterans, they'll be a much more attractive destination. Luka has saved that franchise. Cause KP would be walking without Luka, and those 2 are an attractive combo for any wing FAs.

smaller market teams have to overpay insane amounts to sign maybe good but the superstar level players. and the superstar players all collude and team up so you have to pray their little circle of douchebaggery picks your team. then the other free agents that don't fit that mold kind of round out the group where it's basically a non factor 90% of the time

>It's not an objective measure. Its by a young, extremely rich black guy measure. And by that measure, Houston blows Dallas out of the water. Houston is right behind Atlanta in that regard.

Does, uh, does that mean that these guys like living in the jungle? The rainforest? Because that's literally what Houston is. Have you ever been to Houston? The entire city is literally a swamp. It's INCREDIBLY hot, it's INCREDIBLY humid, and huge sections of it flood all the time. It's literally like living in some fucking chunk of the rainforest in Brazil. It's not a civilized city. Who would want to live there, if they have a choice to live elsewhere?

I completely understand the attraction of the Lakers. Los Angeles is a great city. The weather's gorgeous, it never rains, there's hiking and the beach and even skiing relatively nearby. But Houston? Fuck that.

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It means, uh, there's a shitload of black people there who run black bars, clubs, and strip clubs that are open comically late.

youtube.com/watch?v=64r2MLD09N4

Oh, of course that's why. I guess that's me thinking as a white person. I wouldn't move to Houston if you paid me.

I always liked this look, why did the NBA ban it?

Yeah and neither would I. It's a greasy, humid shithole for most everyone that lives there.
NBA athletes are NOT most everyone.

I have family in Atlanta. I fucking hate that sprawling cluster fuck of a dump. But by god do black people love Atlanta.

damn, why he do it?

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Doesn't this just sort of put Ayesha Curry's bitching in perspective? She was pouting all throughout the playoffs that the Warriors weren't giving her attractive looks. But isn't that just a sign that they were respecting Curry's wife? Would she have preferred that Steph was sleeping around instead, and that she was cheating on him?

I don't understand women, /nba/.

you can blame her for wanting melo in new york. he looked like never wanted to play there

Lmao this nigga thinks Redick will leave philly to come off the Lakers bench on an MLE

kek

Why the fuck can't the Hawks ever sign a FA then?

Every team that isn't LA has trouble landing big free agents.
Except of course, if they do the one things NBA teams are supposed to do, draft well.

Look at all the recent legit championship contenders. Go back 10 years. Every single contender was because they drafted a superstar or multiple quality guys, which then attracted a FA or two, or allowed them to trade for another superstar (and re-sign them for more than another team). Nobody has just signed their way into championship contention until probably the Lakers this year.

It all comes down to drafting well. Even if you don't draft a star, you can still land all-stars by drafting quality guys. The Raptors don't land Kawhi without drafting Derozan. The Lakers don't land AD without drafting their young core. The Dubs don't land KD without drafting the Steph, Klay and Dray. Cleveland doesn't land LeBron without drafting Kyrie and Wiggins. Miami doesn't land LeBron without Wade. Boston doesn't get Hayward or Kyrie without their young guys. Philly doesn't get Jimmy without RoCo and Saric. The Bucks just straight drafted their team. The Pacers have been quietly drafting quality guys since PG.

Now lets look at some classic big market teams. Chicago drafted Lauri but otherwise hasn't done shit since the Rose era. Miami hasn't drafted well in over a decade. New York traded the only good player they've drafted in I don't know how long. The Clippers traded the only good player they've drafted in their entire existence, though they were good for a while thanks to Blake being good enough to keep CP3 around which only reinforces my point.

The only team I can think of off the top of my head that doesn't owe their success, directly or indirectly to the draft, are the Rockets. Which is mostly to do with OKC being cheap and retarded, and Harden growing into a better player than anyone ever imagined.

who would your all white team to win it all consist of?

current players only

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They've either been bad enough a star didn't want to go there and waste their time (15/16 up to now), or they didn't have cap space thanks to overpaying guys like Joe Johnson, Josh Smith and Paul Millsap, Bazemore, and to a lesser extent, Teague, Splitter, and Dwight.

They do get FAs. They just overpay mediocre ones, keeping themselves from getting a big big name.

Here's their spotrac. spotrac.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/cap/2018/
Go back and look at the previous years. They signed a lot of FAs for completely retarded contracts. That's basically all they've done for a decade.

Rubio
Doncic
Ingles
Porzingis
Valanciunas

PG: Doncic / Dragic / Barea
SG: Bog. Bogdanovic / Fournier / Reddick
SF: Gallinari / Boj. Bogdanovic / Joe Harris
PF: Porzingis / Markannen / Love
C: Jokic / Vucevic / Gasol / Sabonis

guards are tough

How white are we talking? 100% 1949 WASPy mother fuckers? or can mixed race dudes that aren't all black be on the team?

Guards
Luka-Rubio-Redick

Wings
Bojan-Hayward-Jingles

Tweeners
Saric-Sabonis

Bigs
Jokic-Nurkic (healthy)-M Gasol-Vuc

Doncic
Klay Thompson
Bogdan
KP
nurk/Jokic

Alright if we combine these since we each forgot some, we get

PG Luka, Rubio, Dragic
SG Redick, Bogdan
SF Hayward, Ingles, Bojan
PF KP, Love, Sabonis, Saric
C Jokic, Nurkic, Gasol

For a 15 man roster.
Vuc, Lauri, Joe Harris, Fournier honorable mention but I think this is the most well balanced roster you can make

Original dream team sweeps them. They are way too strong inside. Would get all the bigs in foul trouble within minutes.

90's was all about iso ball.
Harden literally has one move, that retarded step back....Also flopping.

>mfw you think half a roster full of post-up plodders could deal with switching and all that shooting

That was hurt back Larry and post-AIDS Magic don't forget.
Jordan, Barkley and Pippen would still wreck some shit. Those old school bigs would get absolutely run off the court though. Why do you think that style of player doesn't hardly exist anymore? It's not because bigs suddenly aren't capable of learning post moves. It's just not a viable play style in today's league. I want you to actually imagine any of the LeBronstar guards or wings getting switched onto anyone not named Jordan or Pippen on the Dream Team. Absolute massacre. They also wouldn't be able to defend the 3 worth a shit because nobody shot 3s then.

Why do professional athletes even get into relationships while they're still active makes no sense

You are aware that Scottie Pippen was one of the best wing defenders in nba history?

>Dream team trots out
>Jordan
>Pippen at pg
>Robinson
>Barkley
>Drexler

That team is far more athletic, better rebounders, better defenders and far better inside. Lebron team literally would only be better at the 3 ball.

You realize the 90s was ISO ball because going ISO was EASIER then than compared to now right? The defensive rules made a lot of what we'd consider help and trap defense completely illegal. Guys beat their guys 1 on 1 just as much now as they did then. The difference is the crazy help defense and switching of today makes it harder. You don't have to beat just your man. You have to beat multiple guys. That simply wasn't a thing back then.

That's why a teams top scorer was higher then than today, but team scoring is up today vs then. One person could dominate harder. It's a big reason why MJ was as successful as he was. He was the unquestionable best player in an era where being the absolute best player was the most impactful. If your best guy could beat their best guy, that was the formula for success. It isn't that way anymore. Like at all.

Guys like Jorkic and Embiid are doing very well in today's nba. You honestly telling me they are better than prime Ewing and Robinson?

Don't be retarded.
Also this little thing called "rebounding" does matter. Lebron's team would be gutted inside in this match up. You think twigs like KD and even AD are keeping Malone and Barkley out of the paint?

>That team is far more athletic
Absolutely retarded statement.
>better rebounders
Their bigs were. And those bigs would get run off the floor from their inability to guard anything but the restricted area.
>better defenders
I mean I'll give you MJ and Pippen, but Klay, Kawhi and AD are on that level. LeBron and KD are absolutely better at defense than Chuck and Drexler.
>and far better inside. Lebron team literally would only be better at the 3 ball.
So they're better at a style of ball that is completely countered by the strength of LeBron's team? As evidenced by the last decade of professional basketball

And those two guys have offensive games that extend FAR beyond post ups. They are capable of posting up when they get switched onto a massive mismatch, but their games start out MUCH farther out on offense than any of the bigs on the Dream Team ever considered playing.

>It's just not a viable play style in today's league

Today's nba.
Guys like Curry, Harden, etc weren't viable back in the 90's. With no zone defense you had to be at least a decent 1 on 1 defender. Flopping got you nothing and the game was flat out far more physical.
What era rules is this series taking place?
90's rules, Dream team crushes them with ease, because today's players are soft as fuck.
Today's rules, Lebron team probably wins because you literally can't touch anyone on defense anymore.

>much farther
Around 2 feet.
Ewing and Robinson regularly could step out to top of the key and bang down those shots. Not to mention Robinson was far more athletic than either of those guys.

>90's rules, Dream team crushes them with ease, because today's players are soft as fuck.
>Guys like Curry, Harden, etc weren't viable back in the 90's
>the game was flat out far more physical.
>Lebron's team would be gutted inside in this match up

Imagine being this much of a boomer. My fucking sides.

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You mean like on the poll of greatest players of all time, where zoomers have Curry listed in the top 5. Above guys like Russell and Magic?
Zoomers don't know shit about basketball. There is more to the game besides chucking up 3's.

The Iverson one is good

>more athletic
No. Athleticism goes up over time as better roids and a larger talent pool exists.

>implying I'm a zoomer
Based 1989 core millennial my guy

You can say you were born in whatever year you want. You're still a fuckin boomer if you think bigs who can't switch on defense, have no offensive game outside of the paint, and can only defend the restricted area have any place on the court with these other players.

>zoomers have Curry listed in the top 5
That's idiotic. That doesn't mean Curry wouldn't absolutely scorch everyone from that era from downtown. It would take an entire season of Curry shooting the wide open 3s they'd let him take before their 1960s basketball brains realized they had to defend OUTSIDE (gasp) the 3 point line. What a fuckin revelation that is.
You act like you know all about these old dudes, but clearly you've never watched all 5 of them pack the paint while 1 guy goes ISO on a midrange jumpshot 30 times a game

>Luka
>Dragic
>Bogdan
>Bojan
>KP
>Sabonis
>Saric
>Jokic
>Nurkic
Not white

Jorkic in no way shape or fashion is more athletic than David Robinson or Patrick Ewing. Klay Thompson and Beal are no way more athletic than Jordan or Drexlar. Aldridge and AD aren't more athletic than prime Barkley.
This notion that all today's athletes are better than athletes from the past is retarded. An elite athlete from any era would still be elite today.

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>Jorkic in no way shape or fashion is more athletic than David Robinson or Patrick Ewing. Klay Thompson and Beal are no way more athletic than Jordan or Drexlar. Aldridge and AD aren't more athletic than prime Barkley.
And Chris Mullin isn't more athletic than LeBron James or Kawhi Leonard. What a retarded comment and comparison to make.
Also everyone is more athletic than fuckin Patrick Ewing bro.

>This notion that all today's athletes are better than athletes from the past is retarded
Yeah you're right. I guess that's why all these athletics records from history stand the test of time and don't get broken by the next generation of athletes.

Kawhi so isn't more athletic than Pippen.

Most records will fall in sports mostly due to rule changes. Being athletic has little to do with it.

>Most records will fall in sports mostly due to rule changes. Being athletic has little to do with it.
All those swimming, high jump, power lifting, sprinting, distance running, and gymnastics rule changes amirite?

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Skill doesn't equal athleticism. Larry Bird is as unathletic a superstar as you'll ever see. Sport is a combination of the two, but the average athletic freak like Nerlens Noel or whatever is WAY more athletic due to modern training and nutrition.

Agreed.
Magic also wasn't a great athlete.
Fags today seem to think that a great athlete means you are a great player.

We were talking team sports.
But if you took a great swimmer, sprinter, powerlifting etc from older era's and gave them today's training methods and supplements, are you saying they still wouldn't be elite by today's standards?

>But if you took a great swimmer, sprinter, powerlifting etc from older era's and gave them today's training methods and supplements, are you saying they still wouldn't be elite by today's standards?
That's not what we're doing though, is it? You don't get to imagine what someone would theoretically be like. You said and have been saying those guys, AS THEY WERE, were more athletic. Which is wrong.
Your argument was that guys from the 90s are objectively more athletic. I disproved that by showing that EVERY athlete across any athletic discipline has only grown more athletic, even since the early 90s. Unless you think basketball is immune to this athletic power creep, you must admit that you're wrong on that point.

Guys in the 90s are NOT more athletic than today's players. Period.
And the discussion isn't and was never about if you took the Dream Team and raised them from birth in 2000. The discussion was Dream Team vs LeBronstars. And the LeBronstars have them waxed in every category that isn't body fat and slow footedness.
The Dream Team could not defend the perimeter, could not deal with switching offensively or defensively, and would get absolutely smothered every time they tried an entry pass into the post for one of their bigs to try and back somebody down.
Yeah MJ would be fine, but I'll take Kawhi guarding MJ any day of the week while the rest of the team hunts for switches on the other end and torches them from 3

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LeBron got shut down by JJ Barea.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The Dream Team would annihilate them. They have a massive frontline advantage and Jordan is the best player ever.

Based or cringe?

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Cringe. Who cares about a man's pants?

I love how today's Team USA is being billed as some unbeatable force when they couldn't even beat Ginobili and Nocioni and had to be bailed out by Kobe.

>You have no idea what you're talking about
>thinks low post players with no ability to switch and no outside game would be a massive advantage
How about how the Dream Teams best perimeter offensive player after Mike is fucking Chris Mullins? You think that's maybe a massive advantage for LeBron's team?
>Jordan is the best player ever
I mean yeah, but he's one guy, and the gap isn't that big. He's the best player on the court, but the next 4 best players are on LeBron's team before you get to Barkley and Pippen. Then more of LeBron's team follows.

We can argue about who is better than who individually, but professional fucking basketball has shown us over the last decade that perimeter play beats post play. It just does. That's not arguable. If it didn't, Cs and PFs would still be working the post like they did in the 90s. Don't even begin to tell me that guys today just aren't good enough to do it. That's just asinine and you know it. They don't do it because it's been shown to be inferior. Professional basketball, as a whole, doesn't give a shit about style of play, just what works best. That style of big man that you're so obsessed with is a dinosaur. It cannot exist anymore because it's been demonstrably shown to be inferior.
What you think is the Dream Teams big advantage is their biggest weakness. The NBA has made that really really clear. Rule changes have nothing to do with post play, so don't give me that.

>today's team USA
>Kobe
>Ginobili
>Nocioni

Hmmm

i love my nuggies

>Be me
>Make decisions to forgo certain dreams of mine to be able to avoid accruing student debt
>Get Bachelor's
>Immediately the retards who only thought about themselves are begging me to help pay for their stupidity

Honestly, I'd rather see the money spent on bombs for Iran

Cavs are offering Kevin Love to 3x teams: Blazers, Warriors, Thunder. They want to trade JR Smiths contract by tomorrow's deadline, but will only do so if Loves $ is off the books.

>AS THEY WERE, were more athletic.

That wasn't my point.
I said great athletes are great no matter the era. Even by your logic take the top 5-10 basketball athletes from the 90's and put them in today's game, and they would still be amazing athletes. The notion that guys like Klay Thompson, Bradley Beal, and Kawhi (on Lebron's team) are more athletic than Jordan, Drexler and Pippen is flat out false.

>The notion that guys like Klay Thompson, Bradley Beal, and Kawhi (on Lebron's team) are more athletic than Jordan, Drexler and Pippen is flat out false.
Interesting notion you've got there, considering nobody except you said it.

What I DID say, was that athletes today are better than athletes from the past. Which is a fact. It's everywhere across all athletic competitions the world over.

i don't see any of those teams taking jr smith lol. honestly teams should blackball him for his finals moment he should be embarrassed as a professional

>professional fucking basketball has shown us over the last decade that perimeter play beats post play.

In today's game, you retard!
The game today is geared towards perimeter play!

Are you too dense to understand this?
In the 90's with hand checking, and you couldn't see illegal screens all day, it was much harder to get wide open shots from the outside. Post play this was far more important.

>We can argue about who is better than who individually, but professional fucking basketball has shown us over the last decade that perimeter play beats post play. It just does. That's not arguable. If it didn't, Cs and PFs would still be working the post like they did in the 90s.
Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about. You stick Hakeem or Shaq in today's NBA and they would have raped the league harder than they did. They wouldn't have to play like KD to do that.

They don't have to take JR, someone else does. And his contract is actually really cheap by the 30th, only ~4M.
He's a great thrown in piece to match salary, then waived for the small hit.

>today are better than athletes from the past.

On average I agree. But we are talking the best of the best. Because aren't these teams made up if the top talent. The top athletes back then would still be top athletes today. You honestly saying Jordan would be average in terms of athleticism in today's NBA?

Dream team would lose. They wouldn't fast break. They would use all 24 seconds of the shot clock for a post up attempt that got double teamed. Team LeBron would just let Harden stepback or Durant shoot threes.

in that case kevin love on the thunder seems interesting. guess they'll give up adams?

>a team with Magic running the point
>Jordan, Drexler, Pippen and Barkley wouldn't get fast break points

Wew lad.

now this is based

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if kawaii stays in canada will he be most hated in all states?

He seemed to do fine as a supporting guy in Philly. He was happy to as the second or third option that showed up big in clutch time and took over when the first options were struggling.

>muh hand checking
You seriously think hand checking is a bigger advantage than inability to switch or play competent help defense is as a detriment? Those guys straight up don't know how to play sound help defense or deal with switch heavy schemes. I think the modern boys would deal with a hand on them just fine.
>it was much harder to get wide open shots from the outside
No it wasn't. They just didn't take them. Guys only ever went under on screens. They basically dared everyone to take 3s and nobody did.
>You stick Hakeem or Shaq in today's NBA and they would have raped the league harder than they did
Well that's wrong because one player can't dominate today's game like they could then for reasons I've listed several times. Basketball is much much more of a full team effort than it was even 15 years ago. Shaq etc would give up just as much on the defensive end as they got on offense. They absolutely would not be stopped on offense, I agree 100%. But they'd get switched onto a modern perimeter player and get absolutely embarrassed.
I actually think Hakeem (NOT ON THE DREAM TEAM BTW) would do much better in today's league than the rest of his contemporaries. I think he's the GOAT big man, but that's another argument, because again, the discussion is Dream Team, which he wasn't on.

>Harden

Who would he actually guard on defense? Because in a 7 game series against the Dream team he couldn't hide on defense.

Only guy he legit could guard would be Stockton, only because he wasn't a shoot first player. Every other guard or wing would easily drop 20+ on Harden.

>Durant

Hes the one match up that would be difficult for the Dream Team just due to his length. Especially since Bird at that point was on his last legs. And Pippen would more than likely be on Lebron the entire series.

Ok De'Shawn Gonzalez McCreary

T.bh desu James Harden ruined the NBA, not the Warriors. With his ridiculous flopping and traveling, it's like he's playing some other sport.

>JR Smith to the Lakers
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN

because he can do way better but it's too late

>Kyrie most hated in Boston over Lebron
How much of a piece of shit did he need to be to pull that one off?

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>one player can't dominate today's game like they could then for reasons

What's this niggas career average in today's game? It's over 26 per if I'm not mistaken, and he wasn't very efficient. Throw in guys like Westbrook and Harden, and you completely proved your own point false.

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Would be based if it was anywhere other than canada

>You honestly saying Jordan would be average in terms of athleticism in today's NBA?
No I'm saying he wouldn't be some inhuman god athlete that people are shocked by like he was then. There are plenty of guys that fly around like he did today. He would be regarded as a great athlete, but it wouldn't be this thing where he was a class all on his own. His athleticism wouldn't be nearly the advantage today that it was then.

>Melo, Harden, Westbrook
What the fuck exactly have those guys won?
They prove me RIGHT. One dude can't dominate.

Prime Jordan could do things athletically that not even Westbrook could do.

They're just salty he's leaving. It's a phase. The real hate is LeBron.

But why should they be mad he's leaving? He's a cancer

Switching works both ways, stupid. Teams in the 90's didn't switch because you had defined positions. Today's league is called 'position-less" for a reason. You think Switch would be wise to switch a guy like Lebron on Shaq in the post? Lebron would be in foul trouble or risk injury against a guy like that. Didn't the finals a few years ago prove switching can be exploited? The Warriors lost to the Cavs because they kept making Curry switch onto Lebron and Kyrie. And Kerr was too stupid to stop switching. Go back and rewatch that series. That is why the Cavs won.

>No I'm saying he wouldn't be some inhuman god athlete

He would literally be the best athlete in today's nba.

They are great scorers.
You said nothing about titles, you said great 1 on 1 players couldn't flourish in today's league. That's false.

Daily reminder

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Stay shook utah

>The city of Kyrie

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I'm pretty mad he went to the celtics. I wanted to root for him.

joy's outfit for the nba awards

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>you said great 1 on 1 players couldn't flourish in today's league
Nope. You said they'd rape the league and I said they wouldn't.
>You stick Hakeem or Shaq in today's NBA and they would have raped the league harder than they did
>Well that's wrong because one player can't dominate today's game like they could then for reasons I've listed several times
One player cannot and will not dominate the league like they could then.
What I said was a direct response to you saying they'd rape the league. Considering you said league, we're clearing talking about more than a single game here.
You then brought up guys who dominate games but not the league, as evidence to support yourself, when in fact, those players are exactly what I'm saying would happen to great 1 on 1 players. They'll get theirs and their team won't win shit because that's not how the game works anymore.

I would very much like to have sex with her.

>Thinking KD is going to do anything besides sign a 1+1 with the Dubs and become a FA again once he's healthy
Talking heads a fuckin dumb man

>Ray Allen hitting the shot in game 6
>Draymond getting suspended
>Kyrie hitting the shot in Game 7
>Anthony Davi forcing his way out of NO and waiving $4 million

How many times is this guy going need other people to pull his legacy out of the crapper?

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dwight howard could hardly play offense and he raped the league being a young athletic center

all gay nba team:
rudy gobert
steven adams
elfrid payton
deandre jordan
mason plumlee

lots of centers

>Nope. You said they'd rape the league and I said they wouldn't.

Harden did rape the league in scoring, and he's nowhere near the scorer Jordan was.

The fuck are you even talking about at this point?

OH NO NO NO NO NO

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When Rozier's at his best, it's not. He's very inconsistent though.

>lists gay people
>doesn’t list Dwight Howard

Are traps not considered gay?

I think we have very different definitions of what 'raped the league' means.
If getting smoked in one finals during the lowest point of the East since the 90s is raped the league then idk what to say. That was pre- Big3 Celtics, and peak 1st stint LeBron carrying garbage on the Cavs. And they still barely beat those Cavs, thanks almost entirely to their 4 out perimeter play btw. I'm not saying Dwight wasn't a force, he was. All time great defender. But Dwight very quickly became obsolete, just like the rest of the bigs who played like the 90s.

That was over a decade ago, and the game has change even since then.

here come the max contracts

Michael Jordan raped the league. James Harden scores a lot of points.
These are not the same fucking thing and that's because one dude being awesome isn't enough to rape the league anymore.

What do YOU not understand about this?

Overpaying 2nd and 3rd tier guys is exactly the best way to make sure the Knicks stay out of the playoffs for the next decade.

>lol Lakers delusion

>Lakers will never sign a superstar

Lakers sign a superstar

>Lakers will never trade their trash young core for a superstar
Lakers trade their trash core for Davis

>Lakers will never have max cap space
Lakers clear for max cap space

>Kawhi isn’t coming to the Lakers
Kawhi signs with the Lakers

>Lakers will never be able to fill them around with role players
Lakers sign Redick to room exception then sign Caruso, Bullock, DeAndre, Korver and Jr.

>It is becoming very evident that the Lakers and Raptors are gonna be Kawhi's choice. Its 50/50 maybe 55/45 Toronto. Lakers expected to pitch meeting with Lebron and Rich Paul as the sole representatives.
Per Brian Windhorst.

The odds of Bron winning a title for 3 different franchises is increasing every minute. Is it time to really talk about him and MJ? Also MJ is degenerate gambler while Lebron is nice family man.

C: Davis
PF: Lebron
SF: Davis
SG: Redick
PG: Caruso
Bench: Kuzma, Bullock, Jordan, Korver, Ariza, JR

INCOMING DYNASTY

>davis twice

>yo kawhi. welcome to the lakers presentation. please refer to this picture

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Lebrun is toast. He actively makes teams worse now.

davis bertans

But that's also the Clippers presentation

All he needed was AD and Kawhi to do it. Truly the GOAT.

>him vs MJ
>Jordan played with 2 Hall of Fame players

>Pippen and Rodman

>AD is like Lebron's 5th Fall of Fame caliber teammate

>somehow all his failures are because he doesn't have enough help

>Pellies become the young Lakers 2/0 reuniting Bully with his bros and adding Zion and some other draft picks
>Lakers become the Cavs 2.0 replacing Love with Davis
This is a cute timeline.

Why would Kawhi want to play for the Lakers when he can just win with the Leafs every year?

will big markets ever be able to compete?

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Leafs window is 1 more year. Then Gasol and manlet are dead. Green is probably gone already so that's another whole in the starting lineup.

because he knows they had to get pretty lucky to win even one

>all black players

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Who?

Asterisk title.

>tfw Kawhi joining means they can do it together :3

Will Kyrie find happiness?

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Kyrie will find happiness now that he doesn’t have to deal with that doofus coach and his college offensive system. I would be depressed too if I wasted my prime years on a limited basketball mind like Brad Stevens.

Go eat your little plants, Kyrie

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that's a nice way to say that kyrie has issues and should probably be on prozac. probably related to his mother dying young

>yfw the Lakers re-sign D’Lo and Randle
>yfw the Lakers got rid of the promising players Magic said were untouchable and sign the actual good young players Magic thought were expendable
>yfw they do then that means Magic absolutely cannot take any credit for the current Lakers success

That’s 4D chess from Pelinka right there. What a shrewd businessman.

should i listen to arenas' pod? seems hot take-y ala first take/undisputed which i dont have the time for but i've also found it hard to disagree with his insta posts that pop up once in a while

Is he sutil working with Mía Khalifa?

twitter.com/GetUpESPN/status/1144605880949923840

I know what it's like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail nonetheless. It's frightening. Turns the legs to jelly. I ask you, to what end? Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same. And now, it's here.

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Why the fuck did they max him then? just a show of goodwill for the chip, making sure he gets paid? Even if the cavs aren't going to end up paying the whole contract?

>Polish food
This is exactly why leaveland is depressing

Perfect scenario for the Celtics. The Cavs once said that they would take Hayward's contract, so the trade would be something like: Celtics gets Adams, maybe JR, OKC gets Love + some picks, Cavs gets Hayward + some picks. Everybody happy.

he's perfect for them on a vet min

Based

Steven Adams is literally a perfect fit on the Celtics, dudes a rebounding and defensive machine, specifically kills it on the offensive boards. So whenever Tatum is feeling like Kobe again, he can get bailed out by adams.

Someone has to make... The call

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Lebron being the most hated player in the state he currently lives and plays in is hilarious to me.

I've enjoyed it from the few episodes I've watched

no, that's not it. Jimmy just expects his teammates to put forward as much effort as he does. He's the only player other than Kawhi I would consider maxing if I were the Lakers FO

>Someone has to make... The call
SIGN HIM

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we all agree that this would be a bitch move on a level past kd, right? im not hating on lakerfags and their team, do what you got to do, but not defending the title and running to another two top5 players is past kd joining a couple of memechuckers and a glorified anthony tolliver who overperformed one regular season, beat cavs with dellavadova as 2nd best player and choked in every other spot

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>implying Redick would play for a team that far away
wew
you're a dunce la

I think all three of them have the respect for each other and all just want to play good basketball and win. all of them are happy to make the smart pass to get a teammate a good look rather than a flashy play, so I don't see it being a problem

he's already won rings

uhh.. i'm a fun guy... uhh... obviously i love the game of basketball... theres just more you have ask me... uhhhhm... i cant just give u a whole speil... i dont even know where u sittin at, uhheueahahaha...

clippers btfo

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does ballmer just have infinite money or something? what company does he even run

microbenis

Man the NBA should get rid off the cap limit. I want to see the Clippers do the same shit the Yankees are doing

...

>lala
Her parents should've been shot in the first place

...

>40 posts early
fucking favela monkey

>40 posts early
Off yourself you dumb chimp

>stay in Raptors
>win one ring max

>go to Clippers
>same as Raptors except he has to carry a bunch of bums in the West and win one or two rings max

>go to Lakers
>four free rings and infinite money from sponsorships

Gee I wonder...

How do you go from this......

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>Lakerspics think Redick will leave his home to take less money and stand in the corner for lebron
kek

>>Lakerspics think Redick will leave his home to take less money and win a championship

ftfy

Face it. The Lakies are back. All is right with the NBA.

My sixies will BTFO the lakers if they even get to the finals, Embiid will eat Davis for dinner like he does every time they face up

>...gave them today's training methods and supplements, are you saying they still wouldn't be elite by today's standards?
That by definition would make them more athletic, yes

If you give wilt chamberlain steroids he’d crush Shaq with his bare hands. Chamberlain has a bigger frame and better physique than roidshaq

Bros holy shit, kawhi to the lakers is pretty much done.

What in the fuck, how?

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If the Lakers sign Kyrie or D’Lo then I’d be worried as a Lakers fan. If they sign Butler or Kawhi they are guaranteed at least two championships though

This is because it’s much harder to find a good wing than a good guards. Playable guards who can shoot moderately well from 3 are a dime a dozen. Well, except for Lonzo, lel

You are foolish to think wilt wasn’t on steroids.

Shaq still would dominate him.

I’m looking harder into that pelicans trade and I think the pelicans got raped hard. Hell, they might lose Ingram next year because even if he plays well that blood clot issue is too risky to give him the max. Some desperate team will max him out and pelicans will only have Lonzo and a couple mid round drafts + mystery picks as their future. That’s a pretty shitty hall for the best draft prospect of the decade who is only 26 years old in Davis.

90s lanklets would get destroyed

Steroids weren’t as prevalent in America until the 1980s. Wilt also didn’t make that much money in the 70s and the medical staffs were shit back then. I doubt he had access to it unless it was some back alley crack type shit.

He wasn’t the best of the decade. Embiid, Giannis and Jokic are better. Davis isn’t even a top 3 center in this league. Giannis is a much more effective center than him.

Go to community college then you fag, it’s only around $50 compared to the hundreds or thousands of of other colleges

Ya I can’t imagine why the same state with Golden State and Kobe fans don’t like Lebron.
Trading away a dude that fought through a family tragedy, injury and wanted to stay in Boston for his career for a brat that immediately proved himself an idiot that’s counting the days he can get out of there for New York will do that.

>draft prospect
Learn to read you dumb nigger.

Top ten list and prediction where they will end up:

1. Kawhi - Lakers
2. Lebron - Lakers
3. Giannis - Bucks
4. Curry - Warriors
5. Harden - Rockets
6. Davis - Lakers
7. Jokic - Nuggets
8. Embiid - Sixers
9. PG13 - Lakers in two years or after Lebron retires
10. Durant - Knicks

Lakers will have 3 of the top ten players for the next decade. How does that make you feel?

Not even the Warriors could boast having 3 of the best 10 players in the league unless you count Klay on certain nights. Lakers will have the most top heavy team in the history of the league. And the Dubs will be dead. That sucks because I would have loved to see Durant, Curry and co vs kawhi and Lebron

So is Davis the chosen one or Zion?

BROS WHAT DO WE DO?!?!?!

we gettin kawhi and kyrie on a minimum stay mad bitch niggas all the FAs will do anything to live in LA

Soon

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Just give lakers the trophy now

The fact that kawhi is even meeting them is insane. I hate being a New Yorker

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>lebrun
>top 5
>in 2007+12

imagine being the clippers

Once the Pelicans got the top pick I knew everything was going to blow up on the Knicks.

However, I think the Lakers will still fuck this up. Kawhi is the only FA that I would give the max to if I were them, but I don't think he goes there and they end up giving that money to a headcase like Irving or Butler that will wreck the team.

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If you are younger than 50 talking about wilt and bill russell you better get your fucking stupid ass out my face.

Why would you have some dude's ass up your face. You silly goose

What is it with all of these Lakers delusions? Why would Kawhi go be a third wheel on a team where theres no bench when he could be in charge on the Clippers, teamed up with Jimmy Butler, with the strongest bench in the league.

People are all blinded by this concept of the Lakers having a “big three” but its pure ignorance, because they have absolutely no bench. Kawhi is meeting with them as a courtesy since hes meeting with the Clippers, and the Lakers are down the hall. It just gets reported on by idiots who know nothing about the sport because they /think/ a big 3 is what matters, when in reality the bench, team as a whole and front office are all important, and all things the Lakers dont have.

Its not that crazy, its a courtesy since theyre in the same building as the Clippers

I think anyone in their 30s and 20s talking about nba pre 80s is a legitimate faggot.

>Posts that didn't age well

Because it's happening. They got Lebron. They got AD. They got the cap space they need for another superstar. Everything is coming up Lakies. You sound mad as hell!

Colin just reported the Lakers will spread the money out if they don't get Kawhi

>6. Davis - Lakers

Lol fuck off. I would hesitate to even rank that statpadding fraud in the top 10, let alone rank him above big men like Jokic and Embiid who actually win games.

damn nigga you insecure af
Also Hoop Dreams

klays dad apparently wants him off golden state

This shit getting insane

So how much screen time can i expect from the LeGM to give to LeBrow in Space Jam 2 after relinquishing the 4mill?

The Warriors are kill. The Knicks aren't getting anybody. The Celtics are imploding. And my Lakies are getting AD, Kawhi, and another chip. What a wonderful time to be alive.

Didn't he just say Klay was staying?

He'll probably be the main co-star. The plot will probably be about LeBron wanting to get his stolen talent back

>Embiid
>win games

oh shit bros what are we gonna do? gasol fucked us

embiid and jokic actually led their teams to respectable seeds in their conferences. AD bitched about wanting to be a free agent when he can't and didn't put in any effort

Davis was smart not to waste his prime on a dumpster fire. Embiid's health will only continue to deteriorate while the Sixers spin their wheels in the mud

>Embiid's health will only continue to deteriorate
stopped reading there. do you eevn KNOW who you're discussing?

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>A bunch of minor injuries versus embiid who has lost chunks of seasons to injury
AD doesn't have to carry the team the way Embiid does.

Fuck it, I made a new thread. Fuck that other guy.

>Davis was smart
listen to him talk. he very well could be the least intelligent player in the nba. damn near retarded.

I agree, he is fucking based. Being able to hide details about your private life to this extent is pretty impressive.

the sixies are and will always be the team with great talent who can never close the deal. Mean while my Laker have been to the mountain top sixteen times and counting