Islamic belief effects on athletes

If messi were muslim instead jewish, he would have 3 WC and 5 copas americas

Test, get

What about Muslimo Ronaldo?

i unironically believe that the discipline that islam orders would have pushed messi to even more greatness and managed his autism.

Yes, it's true

Remember zinedine?

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are you a muslim brother?
present your counter point.
mo salah is getting the ballon dor while khabib is a 27-0 and the champion of the most stacked division.
mohammad ali is the most prolific and famous boxer in history.
kareem abduljabar is in the goat conversation of basketball.

At least 2 with France.

yeah and adam malysz has the most gold medals of any ski jumper in history. truly poland is the greatest sporting nation ever.

The Chad Ramos would easily beat Kebab in a mmgay fight

Tyson, mbappe, pogba, zidane, ribery, benzema too and there's plenty more

But i dont get your point brother.
They are good because they are good, (and god allowed it)

OFFICIAL RIGHTLY GUIDED CALIPHS POWER RANKINGS
1. Omar
2. Othman
3. Ali
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Power Gap
4. Abu Bakr

I think sport is sport and we don't need to involve religions in it.
Keep it to our hearts. That's all.

Based. Khabob is a cutbabby.

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Salah isn’t winning the Balon D’or, if he was ever going to win it, it would have been last year..

>ribery

I wouldn't boast too much about that ugly faggot.

Khabib is a paper champion. He beat a literal real estate agent to get the belt and his only defense is against a featherweight who was out for 2 years.

Are Zidane and Mboopi really muslim?

Yup

elaborate why.
the belief in itself is giving them the mental edge to excel at their respective sports and at this high level mental power is a key thing to stand out, this thread is made to discuss the effects of belief.

please stop, even you don't believe that, who do you think the real champ is?

Well was wondering about Zidane as his kids don't really have typical muslim names.
Can't find anything for the other one besides the fact his mom is and his dad is christian.
I'm just surprised people don't talk more about it because they don't shut up about Salah.

But there is plenty of shitty athletes who are muslim too, so i don't think there's a massive effect on ppl doing sports.

Pogba said it helped keeping him calm.

Because there's moderates, shy muslim who keep their beliefs for themselves.

The guy with 12 wins in a row (more than Khabib has in the ufc) who had the belt and never lost it. Khabib is a good fighter don't get me wrong, but until he fights Tony no one is going to seriously consider him a goat.

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>boxing
Um, sweetie... no.

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>White hands

Mbappe is not Muslim.

He is.

thank allah I live in a Muslim country

Fastest man in history
>Catholic
First man on the moon
>Catholic
First man to summit Mt Everest
>Catholic
First man to run the 4 minute mile
>Catholic
First man to fly a heavier than air self driven aircraft
>Catholic
First man to fly across the Atlantic
>Catholic

You get the idea

I am muslim.

is wife is spaniard and didnt convert, that I know. I would put Zidane as agnostic or atheist.

Many catholic greats in everysport, more than islam being the thing, the strenght of faith helping individuals.

>muslims have dominated sports for many years in almost all of the major sports from soccer to boxing
this is why you people are a fucking joke
always hoping for top athletes to be muslim so you can claim them for your little pedo club
>there's even video of one of your cousins asking Messi if he's muslim. That's how desperate you are
yet your countries hardly ever produce any

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i won't convert but i will support you when you give white (or (((white))), western liberals a taste of their own medicine

based

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kek no he isn't

Islamic countries do ridiculously bad at the Olympics and the vast majority of other sporting competitions.

>when will you convert user and go one to achieve greatness?

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It's not about it being the one true religion, but about how devout/extreme the followers are. The more committed a man is to his religion the stronger his will. Christ believers have become absolute pussies in the modern world.

muslims are the most insecure people on this planet, they're even worse than mexicans

Talk about your priests m8

Is terrorism a sport?

The man who's going to end the Khabob meme
>Catholic

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I agree, and why is khabib holding hands with another guy?! GAYYYYYYYYY!

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The three stooges should not be mentioned with Ali

Is a truck an athlete?

The rightful heir to the throne! The one true king!

The retard Mudslime that cost Frogland a world cup against the pastaniggers?

if we're attributing values of success to religious beliefs than statistically there is no reason not to convert to judaism

He was right to attack after what that man said to him.

You fucks cant even beat a south american country and got a grand collective total of 1 good soccer player, so much for that

Facts

Objectively false given the fact the Olympic Games are over 1200 years older than Islam itself
Greek Chads were dominating all of Europa before Arabs had even crawled out onto dry land

Lmao that would only make him more selfish. Msulim players only think about themselves and that's why their teams are horrible. Even Salah is selfish, he has the luck of being very good.
Muslim Messi would literally have less trophies.

Killed actually both Messi and ronaldonarent muslim

Salah isnkustbpretty good. Nothing special lilenmeddinor ronaldo or marafonna or pele....

Go back to Iran shiite.

Born and raised in france, trained and schooled in france etc. doesnt really count.
Messi, CRISTIANO and Neymar are all christian tho

>all of em are born and raised in western countries
Doesnt count. Get a sandnigger born and raised in sandbox than we can talk

Also doing ramadan will fuck up any high performance athlete

That’s because your country is the second caliphate.

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All of these have no relevance to sports except for 1 and 4... the rest you can thank us for inventing algebra making it possible for you to break the records.
0 points made in your post lesser germany ... but please do comeback when you are able to use sense and manners in your arguments.

thats because we are plagued with war and conlict and yet we still rise above and produce amazing talents.
this has nothing to do with sports,sport.

there's a point , but the teachings and discipline that islam commands on its followers is par to none.
i've never seen a french complain about mexicans before ... you seem to have a specific vendetta on muslims and mexicans ... maybe a past traumatic history?

mo0t you're one of the worst posters on this site, you absolutely produce no humor or points in your posts.
t. shiaite.

The kabyle atheist?

1-your country didn't produce a single good footballer with everything you have.
2- you didn't participate in fear of being destroyed and humiliated and used the excuse of going to the golden cup or whatever.

>teams with muslim players are horrible.
>islam-pool is horrible.
pick one and absolutely one.
how can you be racist while you are a minority aswell? also no proof about Ramadan being bad for performance infact there's the absolute opposite.

let's address this meme, last time they met tony didn't show... tony once refused to make the fight happen khabib said he would pay tony to fight him... tony refused to fight for the interim belt and secure a fight with khabib.

Bones Jones GOAT Christian
Messi GOAT Christian
Federer GOAT Christian
LeBron GOAT Christian
Lomachenko GOAT Christian
Christians dominant desu

UFC is Haram so if your going to troll at least have some basic Islamic knowledge

It's retarded using isolated sporting successes as the reason for whatever religion being the one true one. I think Christianity probably is/was the one true religion because every Christian country enjoyed vastly superior standards of living compared to the rest of the world until they turned their back on God and now it's going hell as punishment. Islam is doing well because of that punishment, where as before it was just another sand ape kike created religion used to control subhumans.

>muslims have dominated sports for many years in almost all of the major sports from soccer to boxing.
Kebab beats McGregor and suddenly Muslims have dominated sports for many years?

Please tell me the rich history of Islamic countries success in soccer, basketball, baseball, cricket, rugby, auto racing, hockey, golf and tennis. I will also accept wrestling, boxing, track and field, swimming, or any other olympic sport.

are there any atheists sportsmen?
the only ones i can think of is cruyff and jonathan edwards and edwards used to be a hardcore christian.

>the discipline of Islam
Most muslim players I know of are extremely arrogant, unprofessional and a pain in the locker room

ufc isn't haram .. if it was please present your argument.
> these people i enjoy are the goats not the other people with actual claims.
I've already mentioned goats in their respective sports earlier read the thread.

you know? you're absolutely wrong and most muslim players are known for good manners ex: kante.

Assalamu alaykum lads

atheists lake the belief in anything including the belief in their self, it's a mental disorder.

google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/10427

walaykom alsalam ...
serious question why are indians the most rasict towards muslims?

>google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/10427
wow you get your fatwas from ask websites? also islam encourages wrestling so why not boxing?

Quran and Hadith, those that deny these verses are not Muslim.

Because they've been living with you longer than almost all others and know that your shitty religion is for cunts.

>the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded that she should be stoned to death, and said, ‘Stone her, but avoid the face

Kek

fully practising muslims have been going to prayers 3-4 times a day since a very young age, donate a non-nominal part of their wage to charity and fast for a month. the actual practise of the religion is great for making warriors/soliders and basically any job that requires significant sacrifices and hard work. it's just most muslims don't practise the religion properly, especially as adults.

Yeah, im feeling another crusade coming. Muslims bout to get dabbed on YET again

>muslim
>calls atheism a mental disorder
Well now I've seen everything. I guess all this science is really polluting my mind.

Guess I should stop eating pork, behead people who draw a cartoon, stone women when their husbands cheat on them, and declare war on everyone who doesn't do exactly as my new religion says.

you can leave now if you want to b edgy and controversial. you are welcome to put some thought into your replies and join in when you do.
not an actual answer. there are things that olama al omeh don't angry on and boxing is one.

Inferiority complex from having lived under Muslim rule for about 1000 years and the believe Islam was the reason for the partition of India when in fact it was the politics. A lot of Ulema were against partitionband a lot of Indian Muslims decided to stay and serve the people of the nation.

join you irish friend and think about how simplistic your mind and how small circle of resources you get your knowledge on things from.

What are the 6 articles of faith?

If there's one thing I look forward to as the western world gets more and more SJWized, its the death of Islam in the civilized world.

Maybe we'll be around to see it bros

but you are one of us portougal bro why hate yourself.
i want more people like you to join in desu.

read this since it applies to you aswell

>0 actual points and connecting politics to something that has nothing to do with it is a sign of inferiority and uncertainty in your own point of view desu.

I despise the fundamental approach to islam a lot of people have and think it's an absolute cancer and there will end up being a reckoning between the west and islamic nations, I just acknowledge it's amazing at developing a strong and disciplined mind. most people who spew hate about it haven't taken the time to read and understand it unfortunately

i couldn't agree more. you look at the responses on this post and it's like an automated npc spewing the same thing everytime the subject is brought up. and there's the edgy trolls who think there is comedy in expressing edgy and controversial statements and thoughts.

>politics has nothing to do with religion
Right...
>think about how simplistic your mind and how small circle of resources you get your knowledge on things from
I'd explain the irony to you, but you're actually literally brainwashed. I live in the American south. I know exactly the kind of person you are, because I've met thousands of Christians exactly like you.
You think your religious teachings isn't a small minded circle of resources, but have the audacity to call scientific fact simplistic.

It's simply a waste of time. People like this cannot be reasoned with. Logic and fact don't apply.
Muslims heads are so far up their own ass, they call Islam the religion of peace while simultaneously teaching to stone, behead and kill women, non-believers, people who draw a picture of muhammad, and anyone who leaves the faith.

Talk about cognitive fuckin dissonance.

1- the politics that you were talking about doesn't.
2- you keep talking about 'scientific facts' yet you provided nada (zero) of that you claim you have . that and no actual point to discuss and dispute . have a nice day if you want to leave with your useless yet emotional end statement.

for years people in the west where taught religion is 100% correct, and you where mocked for believing in rational thought, science and development. nowadays 50%+ of people from european descent are athiests, having being told in school, popular culture that science has all the answers and believe they are smart for repeating the same knowledge people spent hundreds of years fighting to develop and have accepted. the forerunners of modern scientific methods and rational thought, philosophers and scientists would despise the majority of people who blindly repeat what they are taught and told to accept. i've seen enough of the world to realise I know nearly nothing but most people won't sit back and think about things and just want to repeat words they've been told to learn to feel smart and secure

Praise be to Allah who blesses us believers with his unending blessings {لَئِن شَكَرْتُمْ لَأَزِيدَنَّكُمْ}. Muslims are taking over sports which is proof of how Allah blesses us. But unbelievers are stubborn so deep in hubris {قَدْ بَيَّنَّا لَكُمُ الْآيَاتِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ}
They will change their tune once Islam inevitably takes over the world.
{يُرِيدُونَ أَن يُطْفِئُوا نُورَ اللَّهِ بِأَفْوَاهِهِمْ وَيَأْبَى اللَّهُ إِلَّا أَن يُتِمَّ نُورَهُ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْكَافِرُونَ}

i'm glad that i ended up with atleast one person who i had a decent discussion and realization with.
it's been a pleasure really.

>I enjoyed talking to the one person who agreed with me
>I did not enjoy talking to everyone else in the thread that did not
Only listening to people that agree with you, and a refusal to acknowledge anything that goes against what you already believed is definitely the best way to understand the world. Yep. You're definitely religious.

>I'm glad one guy can just repeat everything I say
>everyone else are stupid

> you shouldn't be sure and agree with things you believe in.
besides i've already replied to the people who went against me asking for a real discussion .

Salah isn't winning the Ballon D'or. Not even the best player in his team. VVD has been more crucial.

Messi, Christiano, KDB, Neymar, Hazard, VVD have all had better seasons than Salah.

>you keep talking about 'scientific facts' yet you provided nada (zero) of that you claim you have
Bitch you think getting tattoos, drinking wine, eating bacon, women driving a car, premarital sex and women wearing normal fucking clothing is a sin that will be literally (not metaphorically) weighed on scales against you on judgement day, and you expect me to have any sort of scientific discussion with you.

It's not gay, to muslims fucking another man is just something to do after mosque. You can still go home and beat up your wife and hit on 11 year olds before getting your dick sucked by some bros at the bath house.

You have a good heart and a critical brain user. I doubt even the Muslims realise these things you mentioned and ponder about Islam that way.

Threads like these are why Muslims and Islam are treated as a joke. Your intention is good, Jordan bro, but you're just embarrassing yourself. What does being Muslim in name has anything to do with being good at sports? I maintain that the bad image Islam gets is caused almost entirely by >us Muslims making a fool of ourselves

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>dominating
lmao they're quite literally retards when it comes to sports and get far by literally sucking less dick than the worst
quit your delusions, bugman

good coup out answer, you should have left it at the one where you met alot of people like me ... people would have respected you more.
user i don't think you're good at shock humor maybe try to make it more subtle?

Weak af bait desu

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some of these claims at my original post are bombastic and only there to initiate a discussion about effects of religions and belief on athletes.
also you nuding the idea that muslims and islam are a joke is what precipitate these edgy xenophobic statements.

>shock humor

I'm sorry I let the secrets out imam.

see? this one was better but not great ... keep working on it, you'll be the most popular kid at school with these jokes.

if youre such a good muslim then stay a good muslim in your dustbowl and stop your laughable taqiyya attempts. I want to see a 50% catholic Jordan within 10 years muhammad, you better stop being xenophobic and promote christianity

>good coup out answer
You truly are the master of irony.
I'll explain because you're slow. You gave a cop out answer yourself by not addressing or defending the completely ridiculous beliefs you adhere to, while also being unable to reconcile islamic myth with well established scientific facts about the universe

sorry I already left the madrasa and I've graduated to the imam's personal chambers now

The fact that you NEEDED to make those bombastic claims are a joke. If Muslims really are dominating, and if they are dominating because of their belief, then you'll never need to make those kinds of claims, see? Obviously there will always be edgy racists everywhere, ironically or not; but had us Muslims REALLY be the shining example of what Islam is all about, there will be less of those misguided people. Show them, not fight them.

This probably are not even related, but I can't help but think of Monty Python's Life of Brian. They originally wanted to lampoon Jesus, but couldn't because there's nothing to make fun of about him. It's the foolish herd that followed Brian that was made fun of. That's us

what part do you want me to defend, you can't possibly disagree with all of islamic teachings.
the second part is absolutely stupid to answer , do you want me to list everytime islam reconciled with well established fact on universe on a thread about sports?
inb4 "go ahead there aren't many instances anyway"

Aren't most muslims pretty bad at sports?
I mean muslim natoins realy are far behind in olympic gold medals.

getting repitative and old now desu.
to answer your first part my bombastic claims where that to question if it's the one true religion based on their goat statues not about them dominating because they clearly are.
the question still stands tho does there religion give them an edge on the highest levels?

>I've met thousands of Christians exactly like you
so you've met thousands of Christians, talked with each and every one of them and from your conversations you've gathered that they are all planning to kill women and nonbelievers and people who leave the faith? seems legit. and you call him simplistic.

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but Olympic sports arent the only sports out there right? you can clearly see how muslim figure names are considered goats in their respective sports

>but Olympic sports arent the only sports out there right?
It's literally so many sports. It covers all the most important sports of this planet.
And muslims suck in them.

what do you know about jordan user? cuz it's seems not that much the way you portray jordan?
christian families here are one of the most respected and oldest families in jordan and they have multiple churches where i live.people come to madaba as a pilgrimage to see where jesus got baptized and enjoy the churches overlooking the city

Lol im not amerifat i just live here

but are the greatest sportsmen of each sports play in the olympics?
messi cristiano lomanchenko lebron james?

Qatar vs Argentina

sure you are buddy.
NEXT!

Messi even won a gold medal.
No idea about the others check it yourself.

Why yes, nadal, feder, Djokovic, etc

Accept your inferiority

>usa vs greece 2006 (basketball world cup)
usa is bad at basketball.

Sorry buddy you cant claim you're superior when you dont have more WCs than the US

all of them played when they were relatively unknown ... once they became household names they never thought of competing.

>does there religion give them an edge on the highest levels?
No. Is Messi good because he wears Adidas?You don't need your religion to tell you how to be a good sportsman. What makes Islam unique in that regard? How are supposed to know whether the sportsmen you mention are actually following the essence of Islam, or are Muslim in name only, or anything in between?

go home mboko

>all of them played when they were relatively unknown
It's because only young talents are allowed to play in the olympics.
It shall prevent it becomming a second world cup.
But also in the most important sports competition on earth, the World Cup, never a muslim country won. And in its entire history the only time a muslim country ever came close was Turkey in 2002 by getting the third place.

sounds good except only 4% of the population is christian. thats a pretty steep decline for what you say to be a great place for christians

>muslim
>irish
how does it feel to be in the middle of a religious warzone as an outsider?

so there's a point in this discussion if several people said that religion and belief does give them a mental edge just look at what user here said.
you were angry at first saying that my question is a joke but theres clearly different sides to look at it and you can read the thread to ind more.

>so you've met thousands of Christians
>you've gathered that they are all planning to kill women and nonbelievers and people who leave the faith?
No that's the muslims that do that bro. What do you not understand about what I said?
>I've met thousands of Christians exactly like you. You think your religious teachings isn't a small minded circle of resources, but have the audacity to call scientific fact simplistic.
That has nothing to do with the absolutely idiotic islamic beliefs regarding killing women and non believers. That was even in a different paragraph, cmon bro

So in all conclusions. Since in comparison to the size of it's population, Muslim countries are amongs the worst sportsmen on earth.
Far very far behind Christian sportsmen.

So if one says the origin of athletic succes is religion then its surely not the muslim one.

Even more so it would be Christianity. Applied Jordans logic. Christians are historically and today with a very big lead the best Sportsmen in near to all sports in existence.

having a low percentage doesn't mean they are oppressed , i's just means they are a minority like everywhere else.
they are one of the most respected and well treated minorities out there. you can ask anyone who has been to jordan or know of jordan,

it's cultural with christian sportsmen tho, there is a culture of top sportsmen, and a setup to help them. majority of muslim nations are either war torn hellholes or ruled by an oppressive government who don't care about sports, with no massive private sporting leagues/organisations to push kids towards it

we're talking about the top in major sports not someone who's a professional polo player.

Algebra has existed for centuries before muslims even got a whiff of it. Making a book that says "yeah all that maths those people did centuries ago is its own discipline" doesn't count as inventing algebra. Not to mention virtually everyone important in the creation of modern algebra was a Catholic.

>it's cultural
I am not saying this is my oppinion.

In my oppinion does Islam not very benefit a healthy strong person. So by default are conservative Muslims rather weak manlets with many body deformations. Reasons are inbreeding. Women don't breed with the best but rather with their own family members because family connections.
That causes them to phasically devolve.

What you say is also true.

>majority of muslim nations are either war torn hellholes or ruled by an oppressive government
I wonder what those governments and countries have in common.
Any ideas boys?

How come you all never dominate all the sports

so in what way are these christians like muslims? i dont get it
if they aren't opressed the population wouldnt have dropped to 4%, or how else would you explain that

>we're talking about the top in major sports
Then list some. We've been waiting the whole thread.

But just like a typical religious dumbshit, you assert something, then tell everyone else to disprove it.

you just read the first part of wikipedia and thought you got a point there ... al khawarzmi shaped algebra to it's final form and gave us the algebra that we used today that's why he's called the father of algebra and that's why the word itself is a derivative of an arabic word that's part of his book title.

>so in what way are these christians like muslims? i dont get it
This way
>You think your religious teachings isn't a small minded circle of resources, but have the audacity to call scientific fact simplistic.
They think their religious text teaching them about the world and everything in it isn't small minded. They only listen to a tiny specific version of what their religion wants them to hear, then they tell everyone else how they're uneducated and don't understand. When in fact, they are the ones who do not understand, as their religious teachings are directly opposed to scientific fact.

>no you see, I read the rest of the wikipedia article so therefore i'm right and you're wrong
How are all muslims mentally disabled like this? It's mad.

literally piles of hadiths talking about how a stronger muslim is better than weaker muslim ... how people should train their kids in wrestling ... how people should marry outside of their family and to choose the best mate for their self and kids sake. go look them up .

ignore the frog, none of the two are muslim. maybe in a vague sense but definitely not practising muslims. Zidane in particular seems like he couldn't give less of a shit about religion.

not interested in all of them.
i've already listed them above if youve read the thread.

imagine needing to be explicitly told not to marry your family and thinking this is evidence of superiority fucking lmao

>literally piles of hadiths
Yet the practice is very different.
Even in Wahabi countries like Saudi Arabia every second child is born disabled. Incest is the reason.
Seems like your hadith are countered by other hadiths or why is this the norm in most muslim countries?

muslims are india tier shit at sports when you look at the population size and how few good athletes they have to cheer for. see also: pakistan, bangladesh, indonesia

>Zidane
He went Christian

Messi and Rolando are both christians, even though they don't proselytize about it. Or you'd say they are atheists or non christians? So yes, Zidane and Mbappè are moslems.

the drop in number doesnt have to be because of discrimination especially in an already low percentage ... if you continue reading whatever article you got the number from it says that the relationship between muslims and christian is "largely amicable".

if you take it literally a lot of scripture contradicts modern science, but a lot of it is also not supposed to be taken literally. i see your point but you're talking like all christians are flatearthers or something

what about the second part britbro?
this is because it was part of arabic culture just like it was part of the royal english families culture

I addressed that in my initial post, you dolt.

>was
>past tense
lol

In the United States they are flat earthers.
And the Muslims there are Big head Scientist believers.

The United States is a place of wonders.

its not an article, just stats from wikipedia. what im getting at is the systemic decline of christian populations in the holy land. that doesnt just spontaneously happen

you're generalizing that not all of us practice islam that way, if it's countered please go ahead and cite it and like i said incest and bad habbits are par of arabian culture not islamic culture also we are a third world country so we are catching up on why these things should die and it's going to take some time

>i see your point but you're talking like all christians are flatearthers or something
Is that REALLY that much more strange the believing the earth is 4 thousand years old, or that everyone is descended from 2 people? Muslims share that particular belief btw.
Well you're wrong and retarded

and it doesn't have to be because of oppression of jordan to minorities especially when all the indicators are telling you otherwise.

I always found amusing how certain parts of religious texts are automatically considered "not to be taken literally" as soon as they're discredited my science

pure apologetics

Exactly. They pick and choose what is literal and what is a story or an example or a lesson.

Is that shit the word of god or not?

which one are you? or are you the same person with bad opinion on things?
i'm sorry i didn't get how you addressed me on any of these subjects?

>the muslim admits he's intellectually inferior
lol

>you're generalizing
Most of you would look like healthy individuals and that's not the case.
All the Arabs we have here between 1,60-1,70m tall manlets with weird as fuck body shapes.
Are they the result of Islam?
Why are all those ISIS people you see really incel looking?
So Muslim countries simply aren't real muslim countries? So are the Majority of Muslims not actually muslims?
What are they then?

Jesus used parables all the fucking time. His Word is still the Word of God, even if He's speaking metaphorically.

that's a simplistic look on language and life if you take everything literally .. do idioms get to hard for you?

You don't even need parables to disprove that argument.
>Leviticus 11:10 “And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you.”
>Leviticus 3:17 “It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood"
>Leviticus 10:6 “Uncover not your heads, neither rend your clothes; lest ye die, and lest wrath come upon all the people.”
>Timothy 2:9 "Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments."
>Deuteronomy 22:28-29 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

BASED

i gave you a way out and you took it, kudos to you i guess.
>anything that looks weird to me is not healthy and i don't like it.
citing height as a problem is not a good point to stand on desu. muslim countries are exactly like christian countries in terms of following religious guidelines

cut that crap dude, we aren't talking the metaphors. we are talking stuff that's verifiably wrong and serves no didactic, enlightening purpose

it is the Bible that gets unnecessarily specific at times and gets everything wrong, not me. I don't mind parables or metaphores. I just expect the writings of an all-seeing, infallible being to at least get basic facts right:

rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_contradictions
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors

You must not be interested in any sport at all lol, you cherry pick 2 good players and then say all muslims dominate all sports, by your logic Christians are the ultimate when it comes to sports since Christians have produced more good players than islam

Tony won the interim belt. Tony got injured the last time they were scheduled to fight (Khabib-Tony has been scheduled 4 times with both fighters pulling out twice, however one of the times Khabib pulled out was because he couldn't make weight because he was eating tiramisu during his weight cut) and Dana stripped him as a result because Dana is a Jew. Meanwhile Dana let Khabib get suspended and go 11 months in between fights. Not to mention the only reason Tony's belt was an interim was because Dana was letting Conor hold up the whole division to go fight Floyd. I assume you don't really watch mma, you just mention Khabib because he's Muslim who helps support your weak argument. Religion is religion. Sports are sports. Don't conflate the two.

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sure it doesn't have to but until you provide some other plausible explanation im going to say its probably because muslim countries in general arent as tolerant of christians as you would have me believe.

>cut that crap dude
You're the one being a fucking retard here, not me. Learn how language works and get back to me.

i picked 4 of the major sports (football , basketball , boxing,mma) and even another user came up with more.
i'm not defending christianity since i'm not a christian and don't believe in it but i'm against taking things literally and considering anything not literal apologetic.

Why don't you look at yourself?
Why don't you go for a walk.
Look yourself what you are.

It's just that I see Islam at least in its current form rather as a social disease than anything helpful or usefull. And you are trying to sell us this social disease. Look at us, we are fine. We are the peak of civilization. Just nearly about everything including your own life is based on our inventions and achivements. From efficient food production to healthcare over the Internet or whatever.
We really are fine as we are. We don't need the advise or the culture from people that didn't ass a single value to the life of humans in their entire existence.

Do you think Cassius Clay alias Muhammad Ali was muslim?

There you go:

bibviz.com/

tony got injured on a fight that was clearly stated to be for the real belt not interim so when the the belt changed hands to an active champion the interim belt was stripped (just like colby covington) ... khabib got a year off just like anyother champion so don't act like he's the first to fight once a year.

Drown in pig shit subnigger

oh we're off to a good start, discrediting scripture using a page called 'rational' wiki. might as well be r*ddit wiki. typical nitpicking and arguing about grammar instead of looking for the meaning behind the words, the only rational lines in there are the little bottom texts that disprove your claims. but of course in the brain of an ignorant atheist everyone who disagrees is already deemed irrational

you're the embodiment of xenophobia , you are afraid of something unfamiliar to you just because you are unfamiliar with it, you want to live a sheltered life from other perspective and that's not going to happen since we share this earth together ... you might be doing fine but others aren't and this thread is to open up eyes to other looks at life and instead of a walk i'm here talking to you to understand your point better... you act as if we are all living in a hellhole and we're all in bad health when me myself can't be further away from the truth.

yes why wouldn't i think so?
i don't have to provide you with any explanation and you can keep believing whatever you want bout me , i don't know what you perceive as "plausible" .. i've already gave you enough evidence to support my point

like every other modslim...

a small win for him is HUGE

I simply judged it as bad. That's what I did. And there are many and very good reasons to judge Islam as bad I meantions some of them.
I didn't close myself up. I learned about it. And I see it simply as really bad.

I for example value human life. A person that tries to make the lifes of everyone better and actually better not in his own right is a person of the highest virtue.
You surely are not the people or societies that show this virtue. You show rather the opposite.

Maybe you are the xenophobe that can't take a perspective outside of Islam.

>yes why wouldn't i think so?
Because his Islam is about the Big Head Scientist Yakub.

At the end of the day islamophilia is am extension of teenage rebellion for your parents and their traditions that you should have grown out of by 19 years old, having that level of arrested development well into your twenties(or well into your thirties or forties in some cases) only makes you a useful idiot ripe for the picking of taqiya.
Having widespread islamophilia is a symptom of a society in decline.

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i was wondering when were you going to show up serbia you little muslim-hating rascal ...
no but seriously an intelligent thoughts you want to add up to the discussions at hand?

>have the scientific absurdities are tantamount to "verse mentions god but god doesnt real haha"
nice one m8

>gets btfo over and over again
>declares himself the winner
A small insight into the "mind" of a muslim.

>why do you hate the religion that worships a literal child rapist and believes him to be the perfect emodiment of a human
>YOU MUST BE XENOPHOBIC!

Khabib got fat eating tiramisu and failed his weight cut. Tony tore his knee up promoting the fight on a fucking cable cord that they didnt secure. Little different situation. Khabib gets chocked out vs Tony. Khabib and his terrorist manager have been ducking Tony.

you gave me explanations to why the christians are tolerated but you didnt give me one for that huge decline. there used to be 10-20% christians in those lands. now its close to 1% in many places

Max Holloway (the FW champ) fought in April for the lightweight interim belt (they made an interim because khabib was holding up the deepest division in the ufc), lost, and he's still going to fight again before Khabib. It's not normal for champs to fight once a year, especially not in a division as deep as lightweight. Andrade won the belt a month ago and is fighting again this year and so is Schevchenko. Not to mention Jon Jones fights all the time and he only fights in title fights and he fights against big dudes with legit ko power. Jon is really the dude everyone considers to be the best in mma right now and maybe all time. He fights all the time and never loses. Khabib hasn't lost, but he has long time periods in between fights. He was once out for over 2 years after he beat Dos Anjos. It's easier to be undefeated when you're less active. If Khabib cleaned out the lightweight division then he'd be a clear goat, but there are still many people in LW he hasn't fought. He only has one title defense against a fighter who's really a featherweight. Also, Khabib is a cutbabby.

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well if you have read enough islam you'd know the verse in quran that states that if someone killed a person for no reason it would be as if he killed all mankind and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.
which we seem to agree on.
just face it you have no knowledge of islam or arabic to be in this kind of discussion.

None of the men you mentioned are great because they are mudslimes.

Ali and Kareem only converted to be edgy. Kebab is a monkeyboy with monkeystregth.

Where are all the great female muskrat athletes if your religion is so great?

>muslims have dominated sports for many years in almost all of the major sports from soccer to boxing.

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>just face it you have no knowledge of islam
And the reasons to kill a person? Muslims kill people. They also kill people in their own societies.
They kill their daughters. Muhammad killed many people.

Also: Is it normal in Islamic culture to always consider the person you talk to as stupid? You not even once took me serious. This also gives a really really bad image of you.

I haven't read the Quran but I assume it must be at least as bad as the Bible in this regard

>i-it's just language, you just don't get it
>when God gets basic facts wrong is just because he's being metaphorical, even when the presentation of the facts serves no didactical purpose and there's no "teaching" to gain from it (ie it was never a metaphor to begin with)
>when God contradicts itself, or historical accounts, in the texts it's because you're supposed to fill in the absurdities yourself, I swear
nah

fuck you Orban, character assassination won't get you too far

check this maybe according to people like you literally ANYTHING in the Bible can be construed with an alternative meaning that is always correct regardless of how it compares to external reality. it's pointless to argue against that kind of reasoning.

and just so you know, even the historical existance of Jesus is being subjected to a higher scrutiny now. there's a high likeliness the guy didn't even exist or was a literal rando who was hyped to death by a bunch of sectarian fanatics and never accomplished even a fraction of the things the New Testament claims he did. a literal, unironical Brian.

zidane is an atheist, pretty sure he is a secret catholic. mbappé is catholic.

You are as dumb as a muslim

seriously when was that i'm busy to look it up atm so i maybe have a possible theory why.
also being tolerated and respected is enough reason to rule out our religion or country being oppressive to minorities.

You are a muslim on top of dumb

When spaniards of all people are shilling for islam then you know hope is truly lost

>the guy explicitly attacking islam must be a muslim
wow. you're actually DUMBER than a muslim. that's some feat.

do you think being a soldier and defending your homesoil isn't a good reason to kill? that's one example but there's plenty of reasons to kill in the world all of the countries and beliefs in this world have blood on their hands some are justifiable some are not

pretty bad posts today colombia , disappointed.

>he thinks I've cared enough to read his previous posts
use a trip if you want to be recognised that bad, faggot

was this meant for me? Islam is a bunch of crap too

>spaniards
Probably some moroccan immigrant

dehydration is a serious problem more so serious than tripping over a wire.
fun fact: did you know that khabib offered tony to pay his wages for the fight because tony was declining to fight khabib based on the idea that he wasn't paid enough. so that throws the whole idea of khabib ducking tony out of the window

Holy fuck, you're actually mentally disabled.

>do you think being a soldier and defending your homesoil
Mohamad wasn't defending his home soil but conquering the home soils of others where he killed and enslaved.

You are not honest with your believes. You don't really show the dark side but try to hide it. This makes you unthrustful.

objectively, Islam is kinda cool, but it's nothing but Arab imperialism
if you're non-Arab Muslim you're gay as fuck

Has a MENA country atleast gotten to a WC semifinal or something?

What?

i'm also sorry if i come up as arrogant but you can see how many of these people on here are replying just for the sake of replying ... i don't mean to be condescending in anyway but you got to admit you are insulting me disguised as part of the discussion

It's cute how he keeps doing this faux calm and collected routine, while he has a dedicated folder with dozens of webms of gore targetting infidels
True taqiya

If you feel insulted by factual statements regarding your religion, then that's very telling.

character assasination LMAO get a load of this r*dditor. and just so you know you sitting in your basement and raging about the Bible does not qualify as 'subjecting it to higher scrutiny'. your irrational insanity under the pretense of being rational is completely irrelevant to the real world. i'm sure you have an endless list of websites dedicated to nitpicking irrelevant details of the Bible and nobody to read them.

i already stated there were other reasons to kill in this world ... that's why i challenge you to look at past supposed "conquers" in prophet mohammad era and tell me there wasn't a reason enough for war

islam is not cool user.

"factual statements" is the keyword here
you calling my religion a bunch of pedophiles doesn't make it factual desu

I am just honest. Honesty happens to be insulting at times.
But at least I am honest.

However. Maybe one day you will learn to also see and value the perspective of people outside of Islam. Or even understand why people dislike Islam and se it as bad like I do.

Calling your religion a bunch of paedophiles is a factual statement because your religion worships a man who raped a child. Retarded muslim cunt.

it's all a ruse to bamboozle you ... good think colombia is on the case.
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What you just did there was demeaning acting like i have no knowledge of other perspective when i'm the one clearly moving the discussion into a calm mannerly way to see other perspective.

aaaaaand dropped... i thought you had something smart to say but boy was i wrong.

>as soon as you call out his prophet for his raping of a child, the muslim runs away, defeated
shocking

if you think calling someone a child rapist to start a discussion is a good idea then i hope you never argue with someone.

If the person is a child rapist or a worshipper of a child rapist then I would simply be stating facts by calling them a paedophile. Like it's factual that you're a paedophile because you worship a paedophile. Your "i am so calm and collected look how calm i am that means i win" passive aggression routine holds no weight here. You aren't on reddit. You filthy fucking paedo.

also that point has been refuted many times go look it up and comeback if you don't think that youre convinced

>n-no him raping a child wasn't really rape and she wasn't r-really a child despite all evidence pointing to both of these things being true
lol mudslime on the ropes now

and i'm sure you have no idea what islam is since you think we worship the prophet and not god.
i'm not here to teach you everything bout islam you have to work a bit to be a better human being i can't just spoonfeed you,

Don't you think it's weird that the islamic prophet literally married a 8 (or as some modern moslem historians claim: 12) years old child? Isn't it weird to worship him? Do you think God would send a degenerate warmonger, who was a brutal warrior, as his prophet?

It's called critical thinking. If you want to discuss about islam, you have to start by addressing the white elephant.

>you have to work to be a better human being
>now please don't mind me, i'm just going to read about the most perfect human to have ever existed
>ah yes, i love this part where he rapes a little girl! what a perfect human being he was!

again you haven't read anything about islam if you think we worship a prophet. or atleast you haven't read anything unbiased. i can't convince you of anything if you have twisted preconceived ideas about the subject.
got you all worked up with that "the prophet is not god" that you tried (again) the offensive humor in hopes someone can come in and save you.

>offensive humour
there is nothing humourous about you worshipping a child rapist.

you're mad as fuck though. you were "dropping" this conversation 5 posts ago, yet correctly calling you out for worshipping a child rapist has sent you over the edge. typical of muslims.

this thread

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it kinda is though, obviously not in modern day, I'm talking about history
try reading history of Islamic Caliphates
it's just another fucking religion, they aren't Satan himself

you keep repeating the same factually wrong statement again and again and you thin i''l take you seriously?

>it wasn't r-r-r-rape, it was consesual and very b-b-beautiful
>she wasn't s-s-s-six, she was actually n-n-nine
>it's like anime or cunny

>again you haven't read anything about islam if you think we worship a prophet. or atleast you haven't read anything unbiased. i can't convince you of anything if you have twisted preconceived ideas about the subject.

But the Quran was revealed by God to Mohammed. You literally follow his word and venerate him as God's prophet. Why are you deviating the conversation?

>i-it's okay to hold down a little girl and rape h-- i mean have loving consensual sex with a literal child
Mohammad raped a 9 year old girl.

>anything i don't agree with is bait
did you think all of the 7-1 posts back in the day were baits aswell?

Islam keeps men masculine and women feminine unlike the new dominant religion of the West: progressivism.

No wonder Muslim men are better than Western men.

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quran is the word of god not mohammad. your initial statement was wrong and i challenged you on it, i'm not deviating it but it's clear now that you read on the subject which is good and implore you to read further and look for the answer about "child rape" yourself

Islam is the future. All of the west's problems are solved by Islam. Islam is the only religion to stand up for itself, the family unit, and stand against the 'you know who's. Islam has built-in inherent thot prevention measures. Yeah, I'm thinking Islam is based.

The only problem is westerners think all of Islam is fundamental extremists.

no, but at least they were actually sport related

you came here, posted some bullshit, didn't presented facts/statistics and didn't even answered the other anons questions regarding the islamic faith
maybe I'm wrong, but this sounds like bait to me

Boxing - HARAM
MMA - HARAM
Ball sports - HARAM

Doing any kind of sport for financial benefits instead of a mean to better yourself and your faith in Allah - HARAM

another worthless post by a leaf

Fury is a muslim tho, whats why he woke up

Fury is a Catholic. All gypsies are.

All these sports are completely haram!!! Please if we must talk about sport then only Archery is prescribed to the Ummah

someone tried this before you guys and got shot down ... back to the topic at hand

What problem do you have with Muslims?
How many Muslims do you see in Colombia?

I agree. Back on topic: how is Mohammad raping a 9 year old acceptable to muslims?

i know tyson fury is a catholic but here's something fun.
youtube.com/watch?v=2P8rYUzH8Ak

this is the last (you) you're getting from me.

you ignored them, not one person managed to dispute the hadiths that forbid punching of the face in sport

>I know he's Catholic but here's something fun!
>it's literally someone that isn't Tyson Fury and is an actual muslim, saying a muslim prayer
wow! it's literally nothing!

I love how muslims are willing to fire back at you on literally every single facet of Islam except for when you point out that Mohammad raped a child, then suddenly they scurry off with their tail between their legs, like the cowards they are at heart.

shortly after that flirtation with islam his career came to a crashing end, he became a fat addict and spent 3 years out of the ring, Joshua also flirted with Islam and he was then beaten by chubby mexican that no one has ever heard of.

Aisha's father, family and community didn't have a problem with it.
People untill 1960s didn't have a problem with.
But all of a sudden Santiago from Colombia has a problem with it.
I wonder who's behind this propaganda.

This guy gets it.

>actually defending the rape of a child
Ah yes, muslims

Hanged for faggot

a tweet doesnt make it true idiot.

the hadith was directed toward using it for joking , torture or punishment.
when it's for sport that betters the person i think the ruling would be different ... this is not a fatwa

If we ignore your bullshit we get called cowards. And if we explain ourselves you make such meme statements.
All in all you are a low iq brainlet who doesn't want to understand anything. Enjoy living in your bubble.

he knew tony and the world could have held him up to his word and yet he went with it means its serious ... backing down in his word would hurt khabibs image more than anyone else since he's always been big on honor and adhering to rules of islam

first of all you seem to be confused by the word fatwa, secondly, the hadiths all mention Muslims should not be punching or harming someones face, it really could not be clearer that MMA is haram as is boxing

The fact that you believe you can "explain" child rape and make it tolerable is exactly the proof I needed to prove that all muslims are mentally ill paedophiles. Thanks for playing.

>if you aren't okay with raping a child, you're sheltered
This is why all muslims deserve to die.

i know your intentions are good but you shouldn't give this guy anymore (you)s ... he's probably still young and thinks saying offensive shit is on it's own funny and not putting any thought in his statements

>if you are against raping a child, then you must simply be inexperienced and young
the muslim "mind"

1- if you knew anything about islam you would know that you shouldn't give out fatwas like that unless you're qualified.
2- you have no knowledge of arabic language for you to dispute if it's clear or not.

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>it's okay to rape children
t. muslims

religious beliefs require strength and muslim athletes aren't drinking and doing drugs which is responsible for destroying many great careers
t. muslim

are you this naive?
also, muslims smoke shitloads of tobacco

don't forget the child rape

>being this thick
Those were different times. If she was not of marrying age someone in 1300 years would have written about it. Most likely she was 9-14 years old when the marriage consummated. And most girls do hit puberty between that age, some as early as 8. She was from a noble family, you think her family wouldn't have a problem with it if she was not mature enough.

I know but I bite purposely hoping that someone somewhere will find the truth In sha Allah.

smoking isn't permissible
here's a (you)

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you don't even know the basics or what your pretending to be, if your going to troll at least have some basic knowledge. Those links are hadiths you can't really get more legit, hadiths with the Quran and Sunnah is the whole basis of Islam you need to step up your trollng game

you are ignorant
simple as

>implying
youtube.com/watch?v=imbU1gnKzN8

>literally justifying the rape of a 9 year old child

>calls me ignorant for saying muslims believe it's okay to rape children
>immediately after an entire post of him telling me why it is okay to rape children
lol muslims

>muslim runs away with tail between his legs when confronted by the fact that mohammad was a child rapist
every single time lol

Why bother with interpretation of hadith and Quran through exegesis written in volumes by hundreds of scholars for hundreds of years, right?

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>you don't even know the basics
>hadiths and sunnah is the whole basis of islam
serious question where did you learn about islam?

*dabs on muslim niggers*

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Did you or did you not just try to rationalise the rape of a 9 year old child?

lmao
youtube.com/watch?v=HDKdItvUIBQ

i'm starting to think you're a bot with how automated your responses are.
are we being bamboozled?

are the youth religious in jordan?

You need to google what the Quran is, then google the word hadith then google Sunnah and then learn the basics of the three and how they work in unison

Do you lads pray 5 times a day?

ah sheikh jewgle

do you prostrate yourself on the direction of a pagan monument everytime you pray?

Is Mohammad the greatest human who ever lived? Did Mohammad have sex with a child? Do you believe Mohammad was wrong in having sex with that child?

These are very simple questions to answer.

i'm trying

>twain but for islam
beyond cringe

i'm not joking you still haven't answered my question where did you learn about islam? so i can make it clearer to you where you got it wrong? i need to know what you base your information on.
some are some aren't but i say the majority are not.

t. favelado
don't worry BOPE will come for you soon

alpha as fuck

nice argument inbred rock worshiper.

yes, no and the last one is redundant since the second one is a no.

So do you not follow the Quran and Hadiths and Sunnah then?

What Islamic sect are your from? You have been unable to counter my points.

keep on keeping on

We prostrate to Allah. The purpose of facing towards Kaabah (literally Cube) is to determine the direction of prayer anywhere in the world.

it seems very dangerous to be a muslim in india
how is life there?

How old was Aisha when Mohammad had sex with her?

no i do follow them but there's more to them in order of مصادر التشريع.
there's also the idea of تفسير الحديث which you glossed over.
now that i answered your question answer mine.

Love how we are talking about Islam and engaging with kufr in the 21st century. That is only because Islam is a living religion and belongs to this era as mush as it did 1400 years ago. Other religions are long dead since they got corrupted.

Christianism is literally the biggest religion in the world tho

i don't know and there's no way to know the exact age since alot of historians are conflicted about it.
2- almost all of them agree that she was going through puberty.
3- women in hot climates mature faster.
4- there was no age limits in all of the world and people where considered adults when found to be mature both physically and mentally

The reason I ask is you are denying hadith which either you are a non-Muslim (obviously because your a troll) or you fall out of the mainstream Islam so are you Barhai?

Only in the west.

>Islam
>discipline
It is the contrary you mutt.
Your people NEED and strong psychotic enforcement of values and non degeneracy because without it you descend quickly into degeneracy.

Europeans had something similar with Christianity, but lighter, and they still were more disciplined and managed to conquer the whole world without Islam.

What's worst, islamized Europeans are meek and weak as fuck. Bosnia, Albania, Russian Muslims are all servants up until the 1990s under several empires.

i never said i didn't believe in hadith. i protested your understanding of it.
why are you not answering my question?

>dodges the fuck out of the question in as many ways as he can possibly think of
>not a single one of them says "she wasn't a child"
hmmmmm

t. kike
religion requres /strongmind/

kikes loves raping children too. you're closer to the kikes than you realise, child molester

she's not a child.
i said that by listing all the reasons why she's not a child.

HOLY KEK
all of that just to get COMPLETELY AND ETERNALLY BTFO by any Goblino team from South America full of drunks, thieves and murderers.

Islam is truly weak and bluepilled

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Islamophobia is at an all time high. Government is hell bent on making anti-islamic policies but we have them by the balls. For every policy that is against Islamic principles entire Muslim community bands together to protest against it and the government then has to bow down to the pressure. For e.g. banning tripple talaq, Indian government has been trying for years and have had long debates in the parliament in the name of 'Muslim women's rights bill' but still no success for them. They plan to ban other things like Hijab, polygamy, azaan etc in the guise of 'Muslim women's rights bill' in the future. So millions of Muslim women from all over the country wrote petitions to the ministry asking to halt the bill. This petitioning was organised through Masajids all over the country. What I am trying to say is Islamophobia is making Muslims come back to Islam and developing leaders among us. Contrary to popular propaganda Islamophobia is making both muslims and non muslims more intrigued about our Deen. Whatever happens happens with the will of Allah. You never know whom He guides and who He leads astray. Least we can do is stay steadfast in our Iman and stay true to Islam by serving the society. Pray for the Muslims in India that we represent the Ummah the we ought to.

You don't understand the concept of hadith, any muslim will ask for Hadith to counter the argument . Please as I have given you strong hadith try and counter my point with Islamic text.

messi is muslim hermano
why has he never played against israel?
why was argentina vs israel called off?
based
keep on fighting

How old was she? Dont tell me that nobody knows, because we do know. Or at least know an age range. How old was Aisha when Mohammad raped her?

Why are we debating religion on Yea Forums lol

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WRONG bong.
Leadership, whether religious or not requires it.
Followers that repeat mantras are just sheep.

We are, as we say here, "too much chiefs and few indians", we rebel even when it's detrimental to ourselves. We like strong leaders, but always end up betraying them.
But that spirit sometimes gives us advantage over meek and obedient sheep.

We take decisions, granted sometimes wrong ones, we dare, we attack.
Brazilian offensive, Argie team play (not current NT), Uruguayan murderball and counters.
None of those are possible without a rebellious blood.

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how has this thread not been deleted yet lol

my counter argument is the same hadith used with any tafseer you find... i will not reply to you anymore until you answer my question.

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The Koran is unbelievably badly written. Your religion was founded on plagarism, even that of non-canon Christian texts.

Literally only retards could be Muslim.

are you saying that there's no argument about how old she was? and that all historians agree on her being underage and NOT pubescent?
if you looked even the slightest you would find people giving you the chronological time stamps and relate them to how she was 19 when she lived with him. i still say that i don't know her age but what i'm sure about - and what historians agree on - is that she was pubescent and not a child at the time.

mods wouldn't want to be Islamophobic

t. zhang
it will be soon
cope
south americans pray before they play

>the moment you hit puberty, even if you're 9 years old, its okay to fuck you
Thanks for proving all muslims are paedophiles

glad you came up with that picture as your source. i'm sure you're the kind of person who sees a picture with a text and fun fact written on it and take it as source. do you even know what the numbers and books at the bottom of statements mean and can you get to them?

who wants to play them? they only bring problems, even warn torn Colombia was easier to politically avoid backlash from.
Also
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check the definition of child in oxford dictionary ... so child is completely off the table.
as i stated before i don't know her age.

>south americans pray before they play
pfff, a couple of mutts doing a fashion gesture to a Christian god has nothing to do with their religiosity outside the fields.
We also have Saint death cults with actual shrines and gang followers...

she was thighed at 6! Thighing - Muhammad placed his penis between the thighs of Aisha and rubbed until his orgasm even scholars agree on that which was the norm in those times

>I dont know her age but I know for certain she had gone through puberty
Classic paedo response

present your proof so i may show you a proof of the opposite

i already answered your simple question and i thought you will take it deeper from there ... looks like you didn't plan ahead and was surprised by the answer.

Well, that settles the MMA side of things.

Every time there's a great Dagestani fighter -- and I should note here that they're ONLY Dagestanis and the reason they're so good is because the ONLY organized sport in the region is wrestling if you don't count the mandatory Sambo, which no one should, because Sambo is a meme -- we end up watching them get crushed by a better American.

It's always an American.

Having spent long years of my life killing people in Muslim countries, I'm pretty familiar with the religion and the theological political dogma. Fighting sports are haram; I know this because pro wrestling is comically popular with the locals and I wondered what that was about so I asked. Pro wrestling is the closest halal thing they can experience so they enjoy it a lot and think the pro wrestlers really are godlike figures -- just as entertainers and not warriors. So you can argue that there are no Muslim MMA fighters, because their actions go against the sanction of Muhammad, who is God's prophet, peace be unto him.

You can also argue that there are no Muslim athletes at all, because competition in many circumstances is haram.

Checkmate.

That's not how this works.

how does it work? do i have to take your word on it?

>implying I was surprised by a Muslim rationalising the rape of a 9 year old girl
Nope, pretty expected behaviour, in fact.

No, you have to present your evidence if you want anyone to engage with you.

you claimed she was thighed at 6 years old , is adi that's not true please show me evidance of what you said... you made the claim you should back it up with a solid evidence.

i said*

I'm not the user who claimed that. But I'm super curious to see what evidence you're going to present against the truth.

>against the truth.
if you have no evidence why do you believe this to be true?

I'm *still* not the user who said that.

That you can't figure that out is, I think, proof enough to anyone interested in this premise that Muslims are absolute retards and the successful ones do it in spite of, and often against the tenets of, their faith and not because of it.

i know that you are not the same user but you said that my evidence would be against the truth ... since you think what he said was true why don't you pull up the reason that makes you believe that she was thighed at 6 or do you believe in things without having an evidence of them being true?
american education system is truly mockable and a joke,

Child rapist

Why bother? It's been a problem for Muhammad and Islam for as long as Islam has been in contact with other religious groups that there've been multiple attempts over the last 1400 years to damage the timeline that the Hadith presented.

It's like arguing about why you're broke while you're still broke. Nobody accomplishes anything.

But, fucking please, present YOUR evidence.

Isl*m a shit, but C*tholics are no better. Real Christians don't worship idols you absolute faggots.

you think it's problem because you heard it was a problem and never cared enough to check if that was a real problem or not and took it at face value.
it's like that i've heard that american are dumb but contrary to prophet mohammed's situation ,you are providing me with alot of evidence that it's true. i can't provide you with counter evidence if you don't have an evidence to back what you say!
what don't you get about this simple logical explanation?
your example falls flat when you realize you have no proof that i'm broke so how cani answer the question why when i'm not?

t. Doesnt even know the difference between worship and veneration

I agree

>you think it's problem because you heard it was a problem
Actually, no, I've read the Q'uran in Arabic and read copies of the original recitations of Hadith.

But continue digging, by all means. Present. Your evidence.

good and what part in the quran did you find the mohammad thighing aisha at ?
i know you have comprehension difficulty but this is reaching bait- levels of stupidity so i'll write it in capitals for you to understand :
I CAN'T PROVIDE A COUNTER EVIDENCE TO SOMETHING THAT YOU PULLED OUT OF YOUR ASS! I NEED EVIDENCE OF WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE SO I CAN GIVE YOU THE EVIDENCE RIGHT AWAY.

>I have no argument and I must scream
Typical.

Present your evidence. No need for a counter argument here.

i'm leaving this thread ... it took alot of my time and power today .... i hope it gets deleted ... but i'm happy that i planted the idea of a different perspective in all of your minds. hoping that you'll be more tolerable to others and not just edgy.

Child rapist

>losing this badly and then quitting
Typical

look mom i posted it again