Even rain can't save a race because Lewis is decent in the rain.
Jeremiah Roberts
F1 can't be saved, just let it all burn down and restart it all.
ty lad
Angel Martin
I think the F1 youtube channel is deleting comments on its race highlights video. The top comment used to be something about the race being boring, now it's something about racing point being a forgettable name.
Carter Jackson
How will /f1/ react when Lulu beats Schumis 7 WDC in 3 years?
Austin Gomez
Ja for sure ze next week's Grosser Preis in Austria will be very difficult for uns. Zere are a lot of straights and basically no Kurven, diese Rennbahn layout suits ze rotes car the most. Alles know the fact that das Motor in ze rotes car is the absolute best. Wir will try and arbeit very hard to keep up the pace
First for "come watch japanese drifting/touge instead". You can't even say I am wrong because even the commentators, drivers and managers are saying the same.
Just finished watching the race highlights on Sky (missed the live race today)
Why was Bottas so slow in the final few laps especially?
Ian Evans
Again,a shitkonnen fluke result. The absolute state of F1.
Oliver Bennett
It makes me laugh that they keep spouting that shit. Never mind that Vettel on newly placed softs can only beat Hamilton's time on 29 lap old hards by 2/100 of a second. Bravo.
Hudson Sullivan
>Just finished watching the race highlights all 3 minutes of them?
as for the question, dead tyres and not giving a fuck I guess
>tfw super hot week coming up but I'm picking up my new company car tomorrow at least I can go for a drive to cool down
Xavier Barnes
>Merc tries to orchestrate the most dominant win for Hammo >Pole >Win >Huge gap from team mate P2 >Always in front >A German with no will to live anymore steals your FL by a matter of milliseconds on the last lap so you can't replicate
At least, a small spark of happyness
Jackson Price
FUCK THIS SEMEN SLURPING SPORT
FUCK MWL FUCK FERRARI FUCK RICCY. FUCKING AUSSIE KIKE FUCK YURPS FUCK NIGGERS AND FUCK JANNIES
Isaiah Miller
heard them playing this on the PA before the start. highlight of the afternoon
that's not new at all we had them since 3 or 4 years ago sometimes it even says shit like "push now lewis" or "go seb" I agree it's ridiculous though
James Foster
They did make one major fuck up when in the heat of the moment one of them tried to clean the windscreen with brake cleaner but luckily someone ran over and grabbed the bottle out of her hand.
Elijah Ortiz
At least the girls had some proper security on hand
then I must have not seen the ones you're talking about granted I spent most of the race looking at the computer screen and not at the race, for it was boring as fuck
Brandon Johnson
They had periodic livestreams on their instagram.
William Nguyen
Did he steal someone?
Anthony Lopez
They are CONSTANTLY on too, there was a steward on track in canada or someone getting out of the car where vettel did his over the grass manouver and the black board cut off half his body
Henry Bennett
that's cool, the sponsors are probably happy
Carson Hall
>spend 14 hours in pit after 4 laps >pretty impressive nani the fuck That is "Grosjean forgets he has brakes and heads straight of the track out of turn 1 to go play in the gravel" tiers of shit.
were they classified after that long in the garage?
Angel Gonzalez
it took 14 hours to change an engine? isn't that quite a long time? I mean I know F1 teams are the best of the best but they have very complex engines and it takes them about 3 hours to change it
Oliver Martinez
they put it in upside down the first time
Evan Bailey
Please tell me this is Bong banter and not something they really did.
Owen Gray
No. You have to do at least 50% of the winners laps to be classified.
They are a relatively small team as it is all female. They didn't have head torches and were having to use their phones as lights. I think another came and gave them some as they did eventually have some by the end.
Josiah Thompson
disassembling a live race car and swapping out the engine and gearbox in that time is impressive, you dunce
the way you purposefully and maliciously misinterpret my post makes me think you must be a woman. fuck off jenny.
Are you thick Hans? The fact that you need to disassemble the car 4 laps into race is the problem here, taking 14 hours to do so in a 24 hour race is merely the cherry on the shit.
The way you are going out of your way to defend a team who failed to even classify in a 24 race makes me think you are a whiteknight. Fuck off Gunther.
Parker Howard
is than an M2?
Owen Ross
Nice, if only the car got away a bit faster it would have been perfect
Bentley Kelly
The water cooler failed and the engine blew up.
What exactly are you saying they should have done?
so im just getting into F1 why is that black guy always winning? is he actually good? or is it favorable treatment
Ian Gonzalez
t. never had a car failure while driving
Hunter Barnes
>implying i check everything before every journey
Jason Lopez
Is that an all female team? Like mechanics and everything?
Christopher Martin
>awkwardly circling Toto as he mumbles into a mic and slouches
absolute legend Ted
John Powell
he is unironically good and the only person who could make him choke in the last few years retired
Adrian Roberts
Yes. All the males in the team gear work on the other cars.
Aiden Gray
The best racer is black
Dylan Cruz
yes, that's usually why car failures happen
Easton Powell
His car is stupid good, his team mate is a second tier driver.
Xavier Cooper
>14 hours >to replace engine/gearbox >impressive You clearly don't follow endurance races a lot, that is an atrocious time. I have seen teams replace engines in
Jackson Allen
interesting, at least they gave it everything
Isaiah Rogers
Who retired that challenged him?
Adam Price
NIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOO
Jaxson Thompson
Nico rosberg, known here as bossberg (or 2ndberg by some)
Angel Moore
Rosberg, I miss him he was never all that fast, but far better than Bottas, and very agressive, never let that nigger fly away without a little damage.
Carter Bailey
except my journeys are not races or important, whereas theirs are.
Thomas Ramirez
Reminder >Vettel sees Hamilton come out of the pits 2 seconds in front of him >Locks up Turn 1 Poor bloke is absolutely mindbroken by Hamilton after last year. Yeah, Botass will never do shit like this youtube.com/watch?v=ixmGVL4dedI
Angel Allen
Not have it blow up? Not spend 14 hours over an engine replacement?
Wyatt Morales
max would beat him if he had a merc
Liam Fisher
>Toto allowing anyone to ever challenger Hamilton when they have Barrichello 2.0 as a team mate.
Zachary Phillips
>Comparing fucking Ullrich run Audi to a team of 4-5 women working on a hatchback mostly using hand tools
Yeah nah m8.
Nathan Hill
>have a team of people whose job it is to check everything on the car is race ready >car blows up Hmmm damn misogynists are the problem I think
Levi Butler
the point is that failures happen even if you double check it before of course they checked it, but it happened after the car was on track if checking it prevented all kinds of errors, then no race car would ever fail during a race
And really, I mean REALLY got under Lewlew's skin.
Dominic Butler
Yes, but being a small team things get overlooked, corners are cut, they "make do". The result of that is that you run the risk of blowing up your car and don't have the capacity to repair in time to classify.
It is why you are less likely to see this happen to top tier teams. It still happens to them, just less often, and when it happens they have more experience, manpower and money to deal with it.
Justin Moore
If max had an equal car I reckon he'd win
Gavin Lewis
WAGlad what exactly happened that one car that ended up nearly in the crowd on it's roof?
Luke Gray
Max would trash lewis because he isn't a mental babby + he along lecute has the most developed talent and feel for the car. He'd outpace him every race. The only part of race weekend where he could lose would be the qualis
Thomas Gomez
>the dramatisation of ericssons p11 in singapore on the netflix doc
kek
Jaxson Taylor
damn how do cars in male-only cars blow up them is it the low test guys among them
Max doesn't need to be faster to win, Rosberg had Hamilton nervous as fuck, imagine mad Amx telling team orders to fuck off and attacking Ham hard touching in the curves, not letting him pass or box first and shit.
Dude would be seething every race.
Matthew Cook
Williams will next season
Noah Richardson
am struggling to do the same mate :(
Adam Sanders
This is the sensible answer 2bh. But memes are fun
Thomas Morales
Don't worry he has a great future in WEC alongside the other F1 pensioners.
Tyler Williams
>Tom Coronel's fucking touring car team
That is still not comparable to the work they had to do as it wasn't a pure engine swap as has been said. Just accept it m8, you're a sexist cunt who for some reason has it out for women in motorsport.
Have sex.
Mason Hernandez
Ferrari should pair leclerc with verstappen and just let shit happen
Aiden Harris
Sorry, I meant to say that it is because they probably put diesel fuel in the water cooling system and being women nobody owned up to it so they all pretended it was fine so none of them would have to deal with a confrontation so they let the car start with diesel fuel in the coolant loop after which the car obviously blew up. They then spent 14 hours having girly girl fun fixing the car for no real reason since if you are take more than 12 hours to fix it you aren't even classifying, and after 1 hour you are 99% sure to classify last.
Aiden Johnson
dude it wasn't a straight engine swap, they tried figuring out where the issue was and tried fixing it before deciding to swap everything out.
Caleb Young
What is dismounted the car? Why were they riding it? Damn women don't know your supposed to be in the car to drive it!!!
Angel Jackson
Quite the opposite, you and the other kraut are the ones patronizingly applauding an "eh" performance at best. Quit the whiteknighting on the internet, nobody cares. By all means applaud their effort and spirit, but claiming it was an excellent performance when purely looking at the times is just insulting to them.
Elijah Howard
So instead of just swapping the engine and be done with it, they wasted hours trying to find was wrong just to swap everything after all.
Women suck at motorsport and that is a fact, maybe they can improve, big maybe, but now? they suck.
M. Schumacher, the real one, he didn't say much, but they all understood.
Andrew Carter
At this point you might as well just say "their car blew up and it took them ages to fix because they are just a bunch of amateurs and the only reason anybody even remotely cares about any of this is because it one of the few all female crews"
I know, it is ugly, it sounds misogynistic, but everyone here is thinking it.
Even though they had the engine on hand to swap replacing it is a large cost. I don't k ow much about the team but I doubt they have the budget to go through an engine or two every race. Larger teams just replace it because the cost is less than the time to swap it out
Noah Price
Bravo, you are in a 24 hour race, time pressure is on. Why, pray tell, would you waste hours on diagnostics? If you can't figure out what is wrong ASAP and get it fixed then you don't delay the inevitable engine swap with a "b-but maybe we can find the ez pz lemon sqz fix!"
Joshua Reed
That would be the best duo in a long time in F1, too bad Ferrari's spaghetti engineering prevents their car to be more competitive against mercedes
Carter Adams
Lots of incels tonight
Adam Cox
money. they're not winning anyway.
Luke Harris
If completing the whole race with a single set of tires was possible, would you rather still force pitstops or let them race?
Juan Clark
Sure small budget try to fix it, but you know after a an hour of not being able to fix it you have to say fuck it and change the engine.
They wasted 14 hours, if you're not there to win just go home.
Joseph Flores
So instead they wait, then replace it anyway, then fail to even classify. So they now paid the cost AND the time price and got nothing in return, BRAVO NOLAN
There are great female motorsporters out there, these aren't them.
Evan Cooper
The number 1. rule of /f1/: There is no F1-related person who hasn't gotten photographed while having a phone conversation.
Hunter Ward
Imagine being in a wheelchair, vegetable only sound which you know is this you're still alive, crying That's Schumi for you youtube.com/watch?v=RqaJKTRs-Kg
I know at least in coma when you hear familiar voices you can see good dreams
A F1 team can replace gearbox and engine between practice sessions with their army of engineers and unlimited funds, why cant these useless women do it!!!
Bentley Rodriguez
What rule can be changed to end the Mercedes domination?
Kevin Jackson
do we really know if he's full tomato? what I mean is, is it just speculation because the family doesn't talk about it, or am I too optimistic to think that he's at least "okay" and they're just hiding it because they know the media will overreact with "SHUMACHER IS BACK"
Tires are so predictable these days they perfectly strategise the stops anyway. Might as well remove them completely at this point.
Reintroduce them when things start getting dynamic again. At the moment drivers rarely have to choose anything, they can drive flatout untill the tires start to wearout, at which point they all go in for their mandatory pit after which they can more or less less flatout untill the end.
Every team runs the same strat, no point in the good old "2 stop strat but push the car extra hard" these days because you can push the car "extra hard" nowadays and still get away with a 1 pit strat.
Cameron Richardson
Racial rules
Blake Gutierrez
Get another tyre making company who won't spec their tyres for Mercedes Simpler aero design, with wheelbase length restrictions Refueling If that fails screw it, new engine changes altogether followed by aero regulations
Angel Torres
Maybe he fully recovered and doesn't like the publicity and just wanted to retire Wouldn't be surprised if thats the case
Ayden Butler
Ah but the team of brave women instead of just retiring because they have little money, instead waste a ton of time and end up spending the money anyway.
GIRL POWER.
Dominic Harris
Yeah, that's roughly why I was asking. I mean at this point it's not adding a strategical depth. Although it puts smiles on faces when Ferrari gets it terribly wrong, but that's just their style and it shows how the optimum strategy is always the same for all teams.
Eli Thompson
yeah that's basically what I meant but you worded it in a better way
Jackson Davis
But ebin anime come back if he returned when Mick drives his first f1 gp
Eli Reed
>Might as well remove them completely at this point. THIS, F-ZERO TIME 2000 KM/H LEVITATING CARS.
Nolan Morgan
>Simpler aero design, How do you get simpler than this season? I mean the wings are as simple as it gets. I don't think small flaps are the source of significant disturbance.
Also why aren't they allowing more aggressive diffusers? They don't create that much dirty air.
Liam Hernandez
Take part in race Need to go home because you aren't winning anyway and replacing engines is expensive
I mean, motorsport being expensive is a given, things going wrong and parts needing replacing is a given. If your team needs to forfeit a race because it can't afford to not run complete diagnostics on an engine to make 100% sure it is indeed a total write off before replacing it, you really should be asking yourselves if you have what it takes.
This isn't a case of them having extremely bad luck and this happening over and over again with costs increasing and increasing and finally becoming unmanageable.
Colton Young
turn it into a spec series
Levi Brown
fuck sensors, telemetry and 1000 cunts running scenarios back at base off.
Henry Murphy
But that would ruin things in a different way.
Mason Russell
well, not necessarily it would go from "team with most money to develop a car wins" to "team with most money to hire better drivers wins"
Jeremiah Rogers
Or not even fully recovered but like Christopher Reeve tier
you don‘t fully recover after a coma like that. hes a vegetable
Elijah Clark
>hamilton decides to retire >finally, vettel's chance to shine >gets completely overshadowed by anime styled surprise Schumi return >Schumi cucks vettel race in race out >Vetwho? Sebastiwho?
Cameron Brown
yeah that's why I said at least "okay" as in not 100% but neither a tomato
Hunter Hughes
I don't know if Mick will ever debut in F1, he's flopping hard on F2 in a generation full of old shitters.
A top driver wins that shit in his first year and mid to low drivers in the second year.
Brayden Roberts
Toto calls Kimi to take Hamilton's place, suddenly /f1/ loves Mercedes.
Elijah Scott
There's been people with motorcycle accidents who have been ok
Angel Hughes
>Also why aren't they allowing more aggressive diffusers? They don't create that much dirty air. Because god forbid anyone might get an easy way to increase corner speeds and even try to challenge merc.
Elijah Clark
Really makes you realize how unlikeable Hamilton is. Kimi is a fucking sperging autist at times, but if he drove for merc I would be cheering for merc all the way.
Owen Bailey
If he makes it to top 5 next season. He will be picked by Alfa or Williams because muh great story. Sponsors love it F1 hasn't been for skills for a long time
Eli Rivera
Is that was Norris was bopping his head to before the start? kek
Angel Turner
I think it also comes to domination if every race was a fucking 60 lap battle and hamilton won it every time, I feel like the amount of hate would be lower problem is there's no battle, we already know who will win before even the friday practices
Ryder Williams
Implying money contacts and name aren't everything in F1.
Grossjean is living walking proof of that, the guy is 1 man wrecking ball, imagine if he required to have an insurance for this shit, imagine his premium, hell he'd have to suck ecclestones dick all day every day just to pay it.
Daniel Russell
Do even bongs like Hamilton? Other than sky
Luke Collins
The repair took so long that it was no longer possible to classify the car under the rules They didn't do well at all
William Gray
True, not to mention Hamilton always acting like it WAS a really hard 60 lap long battle. Nevermind the fact that he was on pole start to finish and by the end has lapped the entire midfield.
>"we gave it our all and we only barely managed to scrape through, thank you so much for believing in me guys! I couldnt have done it without my amazing team though!" bleh
William Jackson
Pit stops are bad for racing anyways. All they do is encourage the drivers and teams to hold station behind cars and try to get by them on strategy instead of on track. If you force teams to run the whole race on a single set of tires and with no refueling then any passes have to be done on track. Obviously it's not a perfect solution with how hard it is to pass, but at least the drivers would have to give it a good old fashioned try if they want to get past.
>the drivers would have to give it a good old fashioned try if they want to get past and then get 5 second penalties because they made a dangerous move :^)
John Collins
Not that anyone is going to believe me, but I am a bong in Germany, and I dislike Hamilton for being fake. I would just once like to hear him say "My car is the best, I am the current best driver, my team is 100% behind me, nobody in the current state of affairs can touch me right now, step up your game this is getting boring". I would actually like him if he were a complete arrogant tit about it all, just owning up to his complete and utter domination of the sport the likes of which has never been seen before.
Instead we get his sickly sweet PR bullshit every race.
Joshua Sanders
>"we gave it our all and we only barely managed to scrape through, thank you so much for believing in me guys! I couldnt have done it without my amazing team though!" If he just said he's one of the GOAT I would have much more respect for him. He knows it too People who aren't genuine. You can just see it
isn't that why people don't hate the schumacher domination period as much as hamilton's? he never made up shit, never tried to hid that he was good or had the best car, just went on the track and did his job, celebrated, went home and then a week later was out there winning again
Chase Gray
Yep as much as I hated him because he raced against Mika and Kimi /our drivers/ He was a genuine asshole and didn't try to hide I liked him for that
>Aber ze rote uberpferden still have ze best engine zis season
Hudson Cooper
best race ever guiz
Leo Bailey
Well it helps that it was Ferrari was never as dominant, they only had three dominant years 2001-2002 and 2004.
Mercedes is about to get 6 years in a row of domination, with the worst Mercedes days (2017-2018) being barely worse than the best Ferrari years (2001-2002-2004).
Raikkonen lost 2003 by 2 points, points that he lost in some classic Kimi bad luck, nobody has ever gotten this close to Mercedes except for their own drivers.
Worse, when Rosberg finally got good (2016) he just retired and Hamilton got his own Rubens to dominate all day.
Another team that dominated a ton yet is fondly remembered is the Mclaren of 88-89, because Prost and Senna fought hard every race.
If Senna had Berger instead of Prost, he would be 4 times champion but remembered just like Hamilton, a boring ass dude that thanks the factory, the team and god and that dominated for years with his OP as fuck car.
Jordan Gray
Yeah but the other engine can be fixed later, after the race. Just take the spare engine you are in a Race. Fix the other one later.
I am not a mechanic that works on race spec golfs but I pulled a lot of fwd engines and worked on more then 20 golfs overall at least three of them were regular 6th generation gtis.
I need a day for this kind of work (alone)
2 on each wheel pulling out the tyres controll arms ptos 2in the front cutting wires and hoses 1underneath draining oil and coolant Dismounting engine and gearbox from underneath
Pull the engine and gearbox in one go and put in the new one, reconnect everything and put the software from the busted one on the new one.
If they had to change the radiator etc and with the typical racecar stuff that make the chassis stiffer I would give them some extra time and I think 10 guys from our shop could easily do it in 6 hours They should definitely be able to do so aswell
Jacob Jones
FUCK THE FIA AND ITS NEUTERED BOOMER EUROKEK STEWARDS
Ok, bye everyone, see you next week
Andrew Adams
based spic. you still have to go back though
Angel Edwards
did the pussy wagon team have to rip a golf in the carpark apart for the new motor?
Henry Ross
>next week oh shit, I thought it was a 14 days break
Jaxson Roberts
Didn't help this week.
Liam Richardson
He already is back you goddamned retard. This is why nobody takes us seriously.
Jose Watson
Swiss track should never come back, we laughed at the protesters, but they were right all along.
Jayden Davis
lewis is a win babby
Samuel Wilson
It was just a one off because Zurich couldn't.
It will probably end up back at Zurich.
Ryan Edwards
I didn't hear about the protests, in fact I'd forgotten the race was even on so went to youtube to watch only to find it had been delayed for forty minutes because first lap formula mEmE action.
Liam Foster
ya, and NASA has better engines in their spacecrafts, your still never going to see one of their rockets win a GP though.
Jaxson Morales
This was probably their first engine swap. The team had only done two races before this.
Nolan Reyes
When even uk news outlets are starting to take Hamilton's cock off their mouth you know things are very bad.
Julian Collins
yeah - he's a good driver
You can be annoyed they're so dominant and you want to see racing across the whole field as most f1 fans do - but don't let HWL detract from the fact he's a very good driver with it
Ayden Richardson
>implying he's not on his phone trying to cross the border right now shut up retard.
Not like their 2003 car was any better, it never ran a single race, it was the 2002 car the entire season just a bit fixed.
James Evans
one of the best liveries on an f1 car ever dont know why i like it so much because its not that striking
Leo Gonzalez
>its not that striking pretty much the reason I like it the lines are simple, the sponsor placement isn't obnoxious, the darker blue contrasts well with the white but not as much to be flashy it's just a great combo overall
Jacob Rivera
Why is BMW such cuck these days in motorsport I would really like to seem them in 2021 but not gonna happen
Dylan Thompson
Same reason Renault has the best liveries in todays F1
Can you make the front tires larger to reduce the impact of front wing so that the cars perform better in dirty air?
I'm looking at these and they had huge front tires compared to 2019 cars.
Evan Anderson
they're going 18-inch in 2021
Oliver Anderson
>tfw raining heavily outside
So comfy
Cameron Turner
So what happenned with Norris? That was the most interesting part of the race. Something with his DRS, that then started affecting the rest of the car? It seemed he was managing to hold off Riccardo, but then got passed by him, Hulk and and someone else on the last lap?
Also, I lol'd at >"Tires are fu*BLEEEP*" >"I'm sure he meant 'flat'"
I was thinking Max would be a champion at Merc, would be fun to see
Carson Miller
if there were grass it would have been a crash fuck these parking lots
Christopher James
I'm done with this shitty boring """sport""". Fuck Mercedes, fuck Choco Senna, fuck bottas, and a big fuck you to Charlie whiting. >MWL >HWL How can anyone actually enjoy watching this shit? Choco Senna winning by 18 seconds and never once was close to being overtaken. Mauritzio didn't die for this
This Kimi is one of my favorite drivers just for his bants, or lack thereof
Landon Harris
watch the last lap and you're be good
Samuel Hughes
Yeah this ain't rally son, you need to keep the car in the track.
Anthony Rivera
American, I don't get people who flat out hate Hamilton. Like others have said the dominance is boring, but he's a great driver with a great car, what the hell do you want him to do, lose on purpose.
t. Vettel/Ferrari fan
Josiah Campbell
Kimi is so fucking cool
Hunter Bailey
based nigel
Thomas Lee
People don't like Hamilton because of his personality. He's comes across as very fake and trying waaaay too hard. That personality type is normalised in MURICA so it's no surprise it doesn't rustle your jimmies.
Austin Sullivan
>hamilel does just that >"Dumb cocky nog! Who does this cunt think he is?" etc. It won't translate across the race line well (kek).
Elijah Phillips
We already think that but I would appreciate the honesty.
Just like Max was an asshole in his first two RB seasons, but at least he was honest, so instead of fuck him he eventually won the fans, Hamilton is just a PR machine.
There is a reason we can post this
>Get in there Lewis >Yeees, thank you, thanks all the guys at the factory, all the people in this track, we have the best fans.
And be 99% on point every single race.
Cameron Thomas
When Hamilton was a walking seething machine of "it's cause I'm black, somebody don't want me to win, they want a german driver, oh no no noooo", etc, he was way more entertaining.
Is he retarded or something? Ricciardo clearly went off track like a nonce trying to overtake Gimi
Charles Gonzalez
he was talking about ricci rejoining the track in front of gimi, which wasn't the cause of both the two penalties ricci got
Jayden Roberts
>decide to google Michael >one of the "people also ask" suggestions if how did he die >the drop down links back to the wiki article about his accident >tfw he is effectively dead and google knows it :(
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Jack Ward
Probably just the wind, unfortunately. It's called the "Mistral straight" for a reason after all.
>reminder that toto is a cuck Toto is a chad who fucks on first date
Jayden Hughes
Reminder that toto is always unter, so he gets fucked
Christopher Morris
what a fucking chad
Gabriel Torres
We all know that he's a beast in bed. Of course, if you'd ask him about it, he'd downplay his performance and claim that Binotto was much much better than him and that he'd fully expect Suzy to leave him for Binotto next Sunday.
Isaac Thomas
Based post. I saw boomers on social media comments trying to imply there was worse domination in the past.
I struggled to think of a time in my life time where the sport was this shit. And I'm 32.
Nicholas Davis
The german national anthem was played in 88% of all races in the hybrid era >88
Elijah Gonzalez
le mans 1955 needs to happen again to mercedes so they fuck off FOREVER
Caleb Lopez
>Schumacher finally kicks the bucket >much sadness >Mika decides to run one final race to honor the Finn/Kraut alliance >replaces Kubica in the Williams >finishes in the fucking points
It'll never happen, I know. But it would be glorious if it did.
Anthony Jenkins
how many times for a German driver? (Mercedes based in Brackley)
They've been the best pit crew in the grid for a while now Shame that their talent is wasted when all of their best engineers got siphoned into Merc since Toto moved there
>weekend still in fucking progress Come on, I want to drop Ric like a hot potato already.
Ryder Bailey
every day he has to restrain himself from going on a twitter tirade that destroys any and all relationships he has left with people in racing.
Ryan Jones
Mossberg didn't suddenly become good in 2016, he was always elite. Remember that he gave Mercedes their maiden win in 2012 and only lost the wdc early in 2015.
Nicholas Allen
Fuck I meant Bossberg. That's what I get for phone posting.
Eli Rodriguez
very, he would give everything for p6 in france and being almost lapped
Lincoln Rogers
When he got back to the pits the door flying open on its own completed the comedy
>he was always elite. The problem was that Hamilton always played a bit dirty, and Rossberg was only able to beat him by adapting to that style, playing the same game and giving it back to him. Something he visibly didn't enjoy. He basically had to betray his own ideals to win against Hamilton and subsequently quit.
Dylan Collins
It can't be a mere coincidence that both ferrari and mclaren started to get their shit together after he left.
>The team is based in England Guess the English team wants the English (well, in name only, he behaves more like an American) driver to win, then.
Hamilton always played political games. It was him suggesting that Mercedes preferred his teammate, when actually he was getting priority calls from the very beginning. Remember what happened in the shadow of the Multi21?
Justin Richardson
is ted's notebook online yet?
Brayden Morris
The management is still german, the technical staff probably mixed.
Easton Carter
Everyone is extremely butthurt reading the news. Only driver who seem happy are Leclerc because he's catching Vettel and Gimi because he did an absolute boss GP.
Kevin Cooper
Based drunk boomer exposed Hulk and Retardo
Andrew Miller
Tbh I don't really even care. Im just sad that punished Bottas was a shortliving meme.
Can't speak for SEA, Africa or South America, but you guys drive worse than Italy and France. You're comparable to half the cunts down here though so don't feel too bad.
Now that the dust has settled, where Gasly and Hartley, dare I say it, the worst pile of shit driver lineup in the recent years?
Jason Walker
Gasly most definitely. For Hartley ... difficult to say. He wasn't great, but he also never had a competitive car. Give him Bottas' seat and he might do better than him.
Kayden Torres
Hartley was Gasly's teammate and lost, I doubt he would have been less embarrassing than Gasly is doing at the moment.
Tyler Gray
Shartley is only good at managing fuel which is almost pointless in F1
Zachary Rivera
True, but how much are teammate comparisons worth in a lower-midfield car?
Aaron Morgan
qualifying is usually a good pace comparison, and Gasly won 15-6
>F1 2019 getting closer with "its time" >Steering wheel customized as F1 together with game >349euro and already out of stock
fucking kill me
Charles Richardson
Also true. But pace is not all that matters. I'm not saying that I believe that Hartley would be doing too well in a top team. I just don't want to pass judgement without having seen him in a top-team. Then again ... maybe TR were a top-team and their drivers just were absolute shit.
Caleb Price
Those first four races had me so hopeful.
At this point, his only chance is when Hamilton retires and maybe Merc pick up a shit driver
Gives them time to think about an excuse to stop talking to people
Wyatt Brooks
does the game have the real driver's engineer's doing the voice for the assistance in the game? if they still didn't put the hamilton's eng saying "hammertime" in the game, they are fucking up.
>maybe Merc pick up a shit driver What would that change? Bottas would easily dominate the field if it weren't for Hamilton. And he pretty much qualifies as a "shit driver".
She deserved full 24h of running desu Fucking VAG piece of shit car should've gotten a huyndai TCR
Jacob Evans
Lando has a huge head
Gavin Williams
Because I still think Bottas can be very good, he’s just stuck next to Hamilton who is going to be the literal GOAT.
If he actually sucked he wouldn’t stoll be at Mercedes
Gavin Flores
no
David Collins
Based
Lincoln Anderson
Maybe they should have tried other fuel than menstrual blood.
Liam Gomez
>Hamilton who is going to be the literal GOAT. Hamilton was shit in a upper-midfield car. He's one of the most overrated racers ever, having had a car capable of a title challenge in most of his years in the sport and still only winning one before he got a drive in the most dominant car ever. He's good at advertising his own success though.
Wyatt Jones
Better than the other “best of our generation”, Vettel, who is a proven neweybabby
Grayson Sullivan
And Lewis is a Mercbabby, He didn't do shit between 2009 and 2013.
Easton Perry
>a proven neweybabby Vettel at least won when he did have a shit car and always finished directly behind Mercedes (and alsways in front of Bottas, who you rate so highly) in a clearly inferior Ferrari. Honestly, that you dismiss Vettels achievments in a mildly dominant Red Bull, but think that Hamilton's Mercedes titles are wort anything, shows your bias.
Fact is, neither Hamilton nor Vettel are that great compared to "greats" of prior generations. But between the two of them, Vettel has peoven far more than Hamilton.
Hunter Hernandez
Not gonna matter when he has most wins and WDC. Or the literal GOAT you might call it
Parker Bell
>hurr durr he's a babby >hurr durr nah he is says a lot about our society
Grayson Bell
idk, youd have to go back in time and ask the people who started speaking like it
>tfw water cooler packed up and blew the engine because of a screw flying into it.
Daniel Carter
Go back to bed Michael
Leo Jackson
>Not gonna matter when he has most wins and WDC Statistics are hardly worth anything. Most wins? When he competed in 15+ years with a top-car, each of those 15 years having on average 20 races each. You know how many races there were in the 1950s? Less than half of that. Or how much of their careers every other driver had to spend in subpar cars? Or how many years of dominance one team ever enjoyed?
Hamilton wasn't even able to win all of those WDC his team dominated. That's pretty damning in itself.
Aiden Gomez
>vettel won when he had a shit car >0 WDC outside of red bull >in a car that is tailor made to his liking every year >in a car that faster in the first half of last year >also always finished in front of Bottas >except for 6 of the 8 race this year
Jesus christ, I bet you’re delusional enough to think pic related was Hamilton’s fault.
Statistics are literally the only thing that will matter in two decades unless you think casual F1 fans are going to spend their day rewatching 2010-2013 Red Bull domination for fun
>Hamilton wasn’t even able to win all those WDC his team dominated
2016 was Hamilton’s weakest year at Mercedes and he literally only lost to Rosberg because of an engine failure.
Jordan Cook
>Statistics are literally the only thing that will matter in two decades Bullshit. Nobody rates someone like Fangio because of statistics. Nobody even rates Schumacher because of his statistics. They are remembered for their achievments and battles. Häkkinen is remembered fondly, for that very reason. And Senna and Prost have each other (and one's premature death) to thank for their fame.
Hamilton will be remembered as a James-Hunt-type of driver who somehow managed to land in top teams for all of his career, played unfairly and still once lost to his designated number-two-teammate. Not that great, if you ask me.
Connor Reed
>only lost to Rosberg because of an engine failure If you use that kind of argument, you can also claim that Rosberg only lost in 2014 because of multiple technical issues. Of course, Rosberg never publicly whined about that like Hamilton did in 2016. For Hamilton, it's all about publicity. And let's not forget how easily Hamilton got away with dirty driving against Rosberg in those years when that wasn't the case in reverse.
Justin Campbell
Not gonna speak on the matter, let's just let history play out, but I will say this, no one was as good as Michael was at building a gap in race and getting a pit stop in hand, Lewis may have more raw pace, but Michael was the best at that.
All that aside, I still think the doomsday scenario will happen, as it's the only thing that Lewis can do to silence the dissenters
>ferrari wanting Lewis antics in the team fat chance, besides Lewis can't develop a car to save his life
Austin Garcia
I will never rate him. Never ever.
James Martinez
he would have won the title last year in that ferrari
Nolan Wood
>fangio How many F1 fans are still alive that saw him race? Most only know his titles and a handful of tall tales from his best drives. Virtually nobody today saw him race.
Fangio was the winningest driver in the history of F1 at the end of his career. Same with Clark and Prost (with Senna right behind him) and Schumacher who are all remembered as the top drivers of their era, arguably the best of all time. They are remembered because they were the fastest for the longest and pushed the boundary for what we thought was possible in a driver’s career.
Hakkinen was great but not even close to that level.
If a handful of storied performances make the greatest drivers then surely Jenson Button, MBE, is the greatest driver of all time. I know it, I saw his RELENTLESS performance at the 2006 Hungarian GP and the 2011 Canadian GP (where he beat Sebastian “still I spin” Vettel) and they were simply unrivaled. Therefore, according to your logic, he should be at the top of the bill when discussing the F1 GOAT.
>Lewis would have Bottashit as his second driver in Ferrari
Jacob Long
>lewis loses by 5 points with one more dnf >rosberg loses by 67 points (42 if you don’t count double points) with one less DNF (on paper) but what was effectively equally reliability >thinking these are equal
James Stewart
Vettel’s 2011 Canada spin and hydroplane in Germany last year are more memorable than any win he ever had, even his first
>How many F1 fans are still alive that saw him race? Does that really matter? Those who did see him speak of him as a true legend: His legend is not one of titles and tall tales. His legend is that of someone who had to overcome the hardships of the sport of his time and fought hard battles against other great drivers.
>They are remembered because they were the fastest for the longest and pushed the boundary for what we thought was possible in a driver’s career. Again, no, they aren't. They are remembered as greats because they showed great skill and all of them fought their way to the top. That's what matters.
>Hakkinen was great but not even close to that level. Of course he wasn't. But he was the only serious contender for a title other than Schumacher for most of the latter's era of dominance. And he kept Formula 1 entertaining back then. (Luckily, the drivers still made that much of a difference twenty years ago.)
>If a handful of storied performances make the greatest drivers then surely Jenson Button, MBE, is the greatest driver of all time. Button is a curiosity. And he'll be remembered as that. Just like Hamilton is a curiosity, albeit a much more successful one. No, that there's a story to tell about him doesn't make him great. But his performances could, if anyone would actually remember them.
Not one example in your argument, it’s literally just “reeee this is how I FEEL”
Landon Long
>with one less DNF (on paper) but what was effectively equally reliability Don't count DNFs when technical issues were anything but race-ending. Swap one of those issues between the two Mercedes drivers and you have a swing of effectively 50 points. Also, you seem to believe that both of them were on equal footing when we've seen that they were treated very differently during their whole time together. Remember that the same guy who back then said that Mercedes had no "Number One" policy is nowadays claiming that Mercedes are inferior to Ferrari.
Michael Sanders
for some reason he's named Alex in the italian version
>Not one example in your argument One example of what? I've given you examples. Lots of them: Fangio is lauded as one of the great old-school gentlemen who made the sport great and had to fight their machinery more than their adversaries. Lauda is a hard worker, probably the first "modern racer", who also came back from a near-fatality and went on to win. Senna and Prost are rivals who fought maybe the fiercest battles in the sport's history, each with a totally different mentality and approach to their career and style. Senna is also remembered for being kind of a pompous arsehole, but that's not the point here. Schumacher, again, as a hard worker, and as someone who structured a team around him and act as a motivator to everyone in that team.
Literally no one cares how much they won. Not if one is serious about Formula 1.
Carson Wright
Norris was small in Gimi's mirror since he was so far
Mercedes is quite literally killing this sport. Jfc just call it FIAMG Hamilton Sunday Drive or some shit. This is worse than Vettel’s era. This is even worse than Schumacher. Fuck.
Mason Gonzalez
Unless liberty is paid off I can't inagine how they can sit on their ass as an entertainment company and watch their product go to shit.
Connor Carter
This is way worse than Schumacher. Admittedly I'm a Ferrari-fag but at least back then, other teams were winning races.
Logan Stewart
>Ferrari Soul >Red Bull Racing Half a soul >Mercedes Soulless
Christopher Perez
Red Bull may not have soul but Honda does. If you support Red Bull because you support Honda you're based. If you support Red Bull because Red Bull or amx you're not based.
Carter Hernandez
>at least back then, other teams were winning races It also wasn't that much of a dominance in general. The one period of dominance that comes somewhat close to Mercedes is Mclaren's from aroun 1990. But those were 4 years at most, with highly competitive drivers to keep it spicy (Bottas ruins that), worse reliability, and, like you said, the occasional win from another team.
There's also never been an era of static rules like this one. McLaren, Ferrari and Red Bull all had the FIA actively working against them year after year, whereas in the Mercedes era, their competitiors have been prohibited from making technical improvements by various rules.
Joshua Watson
>There's also never been an era of static rules like this one.
You're dead fucking right, and it's a huge factor - the challenges from the FIA on innovations has been to the fucking chasers, not the champions, which is patently fucking ridiculous. Even Red Bull lost their double diffusers.
Nathaniel Brooks
>fangio Winningest driver at the time his career ended, potential GOAT >lauda Memorable driver but I don’t think anyone would consider him GOAT >Senna Would probably have had the most wins if he didn’t die, potential GOAT >Prost Most wins at the end of his career, potential GOAT >Schumi Most wins at the end of career, potential GOAT
>muh rememberance is everything
Senna and Prost are considered some of the greatest all time because of their wins, not their competition. If it was all about the competition then James Hunt should be GOAT because of his rivalry with Lauda for one year. Having a storied career may make a driver memorable but it does not make them the GOAT or anywhere near it. By your logic, once again, Button should be a GOAT driver for his handful of wins in in a Honda and underdog Mclarens. Truly the best of all time.
Even better, by your argument Mercedes should intentionally fuck up and act like ze tru underhund because having a close WDC will be more important for the brand than dominating another championship. I’m sure they agree with you.
Go tell anyone in the F1 paddock that it doesn’t matter how much they have won, I’m sure they’ll give you a lift to the insane asylum.
Ethan Thomas
>Raghunathan is going to get replaced by Markelov in Austria
Rag is 100% /OurGuy/ for getting us more Markelov and for taking a designated shit in Poland's breakfast gruel.
Gabriel Ross
Hey schumi's awake
Gonna mount another comeback?
Joseph Evans
fucking checked and kekd. some1 pls make it happen
>GOAT GOAT GOAT GOAT GOAT >Senna and Prost are considered some of the greatest all time because of their wins, not their competition Typical American sentiment there. Sorry, but that's not how this sport works. I don't care who you consider a "GOAT", you moron. That the problem. You don't seem to get that that notion really doesn't matter and that there is no way to gauge who it may be anyway. But saying that Senna and Prost are not great for what most people remember them for, but because of some stupid statistics, that's a level of ignorance that makes me think you're a teenager who's only been into F1 for maybe 10 years.
>because having a close WDC will be more important for the brand than dominating another championship I've never said that, and, no, that's absolute bullshit: It's great for the brand to be remembered as bulletproof and dominant. It does nothing for the drivers, exactly because that fact is all about the team. It's not great for a driver to have driven a dominant car: Your stupid (and misinformed) "Neweybaby Vettel" comment from before proves that!
Are you done strawmanning?
Andrew Roberts
WHO’S EXCITED FOR ANOTHER HAM-BOT 1-2 FINISH??!!!
Aaron Powell
Have a (You), Straya.
Dylan Smith
I am a lifelong Ferrari fan, I despise Toto, I Unterhund like a banshee on here but I am actually looking forward to Mercedes winning every. single. fucking. race this year so that come the end of it the Unterhunden narrative is utterly unsupportable and the FIA can look like nothing but cunts with zero credibility to hide behind when they inevitably do nothing to fix it.
Mason Long
>tfw only "Get in there Lewis" >tfw no "GRAZIE REGAZZI"
I agree. Let the Germans have the rest of this season. I hope it's the worst season in recent memory, so that everyone's vitriol will force the FIA to do something. And if they don't, as you yourself point out they won't, then I can at least rest easy knowing that F1 is finished. I hate keeping up hope that it will change. I want it all to end with Toto's smiling smug face
NO, PLEASE GUYS, STOP!!! YOU'RE ONLY MAKING DE UNTERHUND STRONGER!!!!!
>"The trolling that happens in social media has become so bad," he said. "People hide behind anonymous, or not even anonymous, accounts and hit out."
THEY KNOW
Tyler Ramirez
The argument literally started because I called Hamilton GOAT and you wanted to dispute it, so I don’t know how that is considered irrelevant.
The entire allure of Senna and Prost is built on their insane amount of success. If they were slugging it out for P6 no one would give a shit about either of them anymore. I suppose the Ocon/Perez fued at Force India means that both drivers are now as important Senna and Prost.
And how many championships has Vettel won outside of Red Bull, again? I seem to remember it being a big fact 0.
Meanwhile Lewis has a title in a car that lost the WCC, a rarity in the modern era.
They can roll the dice on a new rule set. At some point there needs to be a brute force solution to this horseshit. Can you imagine this crap lasting this long under Bernie?
Dominic Butler
Because of reliability
Clearly have no idea what year I refered to
Logan Brown
>when you totopost in /f1/, get (You)'s, show the (You)'s to the team, laugh about it and then use your totoposting to cry to media about ze evil trollen on ze interwebs
>Meanwhile Lewis has a title in a car that lost the WCC, a rarity in the modern era. And why is that a rarity? Because WDC drivers are either capable of dragging their car to the WCC as well on their own (like Vettel did multiple times when Red Bull would have become WCC even without Webber's points) or because their teammate was somewhat capable. You're literally lauding Hamilton for not earning enough points to get the WCC and for not having a competitive teammate.
Also, that you call him by his given name exclusively (not any other driver) shows your bias.
Jacob Brown
>Because of reliability No one but Hamilton and his fans ever used that poor excuse for losing a championship. Again, it's part of the game and he has won championships by having better reliability than anyone else. You can even argue that his poor reliability (him overdriving his car?) once led to an advantage when Mercedes cheated their way to multiple additional new engine parts by taking an enourmous grid-penalty at one race.
Camden Perry
Copy that, I'm relatively new to F1, is his humble thing new?
