Why do people think he was the greatest guitarist ever? He's not some Paganini or Liszt of electric guitar...

Why do people think he was the greatest guitarist ever? He's not some Paganini or Liszt of electric guitar, modern guitarists can play circles around him. Just another meme guitarist. Prove me wrong.

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Soul.

Guitar before Hendrix = muh licks and muh distortion
Guitar after Hendrix = soundscapes, stereo arrangements, integrated studio/guitar synergy.

k but I can also play "mary had a little lamb" with soul, that doesn't make me the greatest player

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huh
I thought hendrix popularized the distortion and licks

>left handed
>used techniques of guitar that hasn't been into play ever before to a wide audience
>his band has musicians that aren't appreciated enough in their albums
>black

Idk man, brazy times bruther

this but unironically

Distortion to some degree but overdriven/fuzzy guitars were already a thing. Hendrix was not a licks type player really though, on are you experienced maybe somewhat but electric ladyland and axis are totally soundscapes, and recordings before death were moving that way even moreso

Licks are about as old the guitar or other soloist instruments.

Because he completely changed the game. Every other guitarist who saw him live was basically like "oh. I've been doing everything wrong. I need to do THAT"

Hendrix played with way more distortion than anyone else at the time. You're either trolling or fucking dense.

Liz Phair is the best guitarist in the history of humanity, fight me if you think otherwise.

>modern guitarists

He wasn't a modern guitarist.

I know. I mean guitarists today that can do sweep picking, tapping and a whole bunch of other techniques can play circles around him.

Genuinely unironically this.

I think everyone would agree if you said that Joe Pass was the better guitar player
No one was just on his level of swagger

I'm saying that what he did for the time was pretty crazy so it's not fair to compare him to modern guitarists.

Just because someone does it 50 years later doesn't make him any less talented.

Ok but today the best players for other instruments and composers are considered to have lived centuries ago. Stuff by Paganini, Wieniawski, Bach (Chaconne) and even Vivaldi is still considered virtuosic even today and challenging to play, requiring years of dedication that not everyone matches. Modern guitarists make Hendrix look like twinkle twinkle little star.

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>Sweep picking
>tapping
>Sounding good

You're talking about evolution of course an art form evolved some of our due to hendrix so why would you compare a piece to the building blocks that helped get it there it's like with sports most players today could destroy the ones from the past but those players had the techniques and way of playing of the past to grow from Hendrix basically walked so others could run and for that alone we can pin him as one of the best

dude what
If anything, Jimi is what put flashy guitar playing on a pedestal in rock music.
The name you are looking for is Syd Barrett.

Bro, anyone who is saying Hendrix should be on the same tier as those guys is wrong.

> Modern guitarists make Hendrix look like twinkle twinkle little star.
There are still very few on his level.

literally who

lol are you kidding me? Iommi was from Hendrix's time and he could play circles around Hendrix, his solos are relatively difficult to play even 51 years later, especially for a guy missing fingers.

Ok I can get that but saying Hendrix is the greatest ever is like saying Hildegard of Bingen is the greatest composer ever, makes no sense. Why not Chuck Berry then? There's just some Hendrix cult built up that I don't understand, maybe people are obsessed with him because he died young like Cobain

Good taste, good ear, and incredibly able to translate his soul through the guitar very effectively. If you don't understand that, you don't understand music as an art form but as some kind of point scoring exercise.

Jimi Hendrix will always be the greatest guitarist.
Les Claypool will always be the greatest bassist.
Charlie Watts will always be the greatest drummer.

He’s not a technical wizard he’s competent but that’s not what he’s famous for

>Les Claypool will always be the greatest bassist.
You know, as good as he is, it's very hard to get his sound to fit into any context. That's why he's always the centerpiece of bands he plays in. Everything has to be build around his bass playing.
He's not a great bassist, he's a great bass soloist in a way, and that is a big difference.

>modern guitarists could play circles around him
lol
His position as the unquestioned best guitar player ever in classic rock canon is definitely debatable, but there's no doubt he's a dope musician that commands your attention, to the point of overshadowing his talented bandmates as said

>it's not fair to compare him to modern guitarists.
Sure it is. He still rules. People can jerk off all they want about muh super-fast scale shredding, but there'll never be another Hendrix.

post examples of why he "rules"

john paul jones is the best bassist

>Charlie Watts will always be the greatest drummer
Charlie's fucking great.

>Jimi Hendrix will always be the greatest guitarist.

Proofs?

who's the greatest vocalist?

Jesus Christ. Just listen to his music. Or don't. It's your loss.
I don't know why you need to be so belligerent about your ignorance, but that's your problem.

post a link

no one gives a fuck

Distortion wasn't much of a thing before Hendrix, the only distortions availiable to Hendrix were fuzzfaces

Wb John McLaughlin, Al Dimeola or George Benson? They all preceded Hendrix and could shred with a plectrum

It's not about shredding or being technical or the composition necessarily. It was his control over the strings such that he could bend and manipulate the notes in such a subtle way that gave his playing a human touch and personality that came from him and through the guitar.

I'm not familiar with grandpa guitarists, and Al Dimeola is after Hendrix

That sounds like bullshit and a subjective cope, like "you have to listen to the notes she's not playing".

You clearly haven't heard Victor Wooten or Geddy Lee..

if Bob Dylan is considered one of the greatest vocalists of all times then vocals are completely subjective. My guess would probably be Nico because she practically invented genres with her vocals.

>meme guitarist

Fucking hell youre a clueless dipshit. If you were a kid in the 80s and picked up a guitar chances are you were listening to either randy rhoads or Eddie Van Halen. They influenced a generation. The same thing with Hendrix. From Judas Priest to Prince to the Cure.

haven't heard Victor but I definitely listen to Rush.
Lee is phenomenal. one of the best out there.

>grandpa guitarist
I was wrong on all three actually, I think they were all contemporary or after. If you don’t know who mclaughlin is your a guitar pleb. He’s one of the first shredders and played with miles Davis, same with benson.
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Those recordings are post Hendrix but just good examples of their ridiculous chops.

if you were talking about technique, I agree with you
if you were talking about impact to society than I can't agree with you

When someone tells me "he's a good guitarist" I assume they mean he can play well. When they say "he's a great guitarist" I interpret it as he can play even better. So when they say he's the "greatest" guitarist I can only think that he can play better than all the other players, and if they add "of all time", that means he can play better than everyone who's ever existed, which Hendrix obviously can't.

>calling jimi hendrix a meme guitarist

you fucking retard do you even know anything about music?

>>calling jimi hendrix a meme guitarist

>you fucking retard do you even know anything about music?

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He’s right

no one has yet posted a link to hendrix's music to back up their claims

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>Nico
you are the biggest fucking retard on the planet

learn to read before posting or you might embarrass yourself.

Wow Gimmick Hendrix can play with his teeth, greatest guitar player ever, I'm sold. Post something real not circus acts.

you could just listen to his music and find out yourself you fucking doofus.

He made memorable songs and had great stage presence. Nobody gives a shit about a nerd sweep-picking over a dumb backing-tracking.

I'm asking you for links of what to listen to

Or are you so unfamiliar with his music you're talking out your ass?

just listen to the first track off of Are You Experienced
Purple Haze alone changed the perception of how guitars were played forever.

Haaaaaaaave you ever beeen?

But user, that's not how you spell Billy Cobham.

>no one has yet posted a link to hendrix's music to back up their claims
nigga who the fuck hasn't heard jimi hendrix's music before

>taking the bait
hello newfriend

>I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED!
kill yourself.

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Wow 3 chords I'm blown away, greatest guitarist ever

Ho ho.

Online hate crime.

Why are you focusing on harmony instead of the things Hendrix is known for which is how he used feedback, distortion, his phrasing, phasers etc. Hendrix is famous because he had a very visceral approach to the instrument not because he played crazy fusion solos:

uhhh that wasn't me, homie.

>DUUUUDE MUH SOULFUL NIGGERINOS :}

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>someone has a mildly unconventional opinion
>OMG B8, LE B8, THIS GUY IS B&MPERSANDING
why is this so prevalent on Yea Forums? Even funnier when the noise retards sperg out like that. Hendrix wasn't a very good song writer and OP was absolutely correct

Not an argument

I don’t care this monkey will never play as good as Angus Young

Your right he plays better

>cherrypicks a song Jimi didn't write
>"durr three chords"
you're trying too hard

Cope
He's not the greatest guitarist for putting a bunch of effects pedals together

>Greatest guitarist
Subjective
>Greatest rock guitarist
Objective

I thought that was purple haze, I didn’t even click on it. He’s even more retarded because that song has more than three chords. The beginning of the form is going up the scale diatonically which is five chords.

Post one he did write

I don’t know if he’s the greatest guitarist (whatever that means) but his sound is one of the most influential of all time. His approach to the instrument is novel which is why he’s so revered.

You already discredited yourself as being musically illiterate because you said that like a rolling stone is three chords.

Little Wing is Hendrix's greatest achievement, too bad you can't hear it anywhere because of the greedy ass people who own his music, how ironic. Anyway, THIS is all soul.'

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Honestly he's not even that soulful. Obviously it's there but it's much more apparent in other players.

None of his audience even knew who Johnny Smith was.

IM A FUCK HUGE PLEB AND THERES NOTHIN U CAN DO

Devin Townsend is really great

Extremely talented but he had a sloppy playing style. Not necessarily a bad thing at all, it can stand out in a really great way. Some players just have that

If you think he's actually playing with his teeth you don't know much about guitar. I was fooled by this when I was like 10, now I realize he's just tapping/pulling off with his right hand while pretending to "play" with his teeth

To give you a real answer, about the most complicated/technical song Jimmie recorded was Little Wing. Judge him based on that. It's somewhat challenging to play well and doubly so when singing, but it's also not impossible.

He made solid ass albums while he was around, Electric Ladyland and Axis Bold as Love are both just fun man

I'd count myself a Hendrix fan, but I'm sympathetic to the critiques here. The "greatest guitar player of all time" stuff was marketing bullshit that boomers took at face value back in the 1960s because they were musically ignorant and then they continued perpetuating the myth once they grew up.

Many rock guitarists who are merely competent at their instrument get these sorts of accolades. It's because the standards are lower. This is probably in part because for a long time guitar was considered an instrument of the plebeians so by the 1960s most people had only heard guitars being strummed along to folk songs. In contrast to this level of proficiency, actually knowing something about your instrument aside from how to play three chords was viewed as a major accomplishment.

Hendrix was genuinely creative. He had a unique and influential artistic vision. His music was innovative and his guitar playing original and enjoyable. There's no need for the silly "greatest guitar player of all time" moniker.

sounds like shit

>people are unironically getting filtered by Jimi Hendrix

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Because you could never in your pathetic life have imagined his sound.