Now that the dust has settled, is Steph the most overrated player ever?

>literally 2-3 men on him every single game in the series, except the one where he went off for almost 50
>lest of the roster literally dying
>WTF, WHY DIDNT HE JUST CARRY THEM

the hate for curry is just unreal

He gave up a shit ton of turnovers though. I don't have the stats but he was stripped of the ball a lot.

Seething, not even a top 50 player all time

Curry Finals stats.

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care to name your top 5?

>2 games of over 30 pts scored with at least 43% fg%
>1 game with 47 pts scored, almost 43% FROM 3 ALONE
>people will say he sucked

>he won a shit ton of rings on stacked teams.

Not sure how true that is. IF you read the book of basketball Bill goes into pretty good detail and Bill only edges Wilt most of the him in terms of theoretical talent around him and turns out there possible alternative reasons why Bill dominated Wilt in terms of rings.

Regardless, at some point you have to give the nod to the player with the most championships, especially when most of those were against the other, or else what the fuck do we have the games for if winning doesn't matter?

I don't know why he gets hate, seems like a solid dude. There's no reason for anyone to hate him other than butthurt jealousy.

Toronto was box and oneing Curry when Klay played and double teaming him when Klay was out. It's crazy when GSW had no second option with Klay out and they were still doubling.

this. he's humble as fuck

Ever? That would be Kobe by a mile.

Carmelo

Yes he's overrated however it's not really his fault that the media choose to prop him up. The arrogance he displays at times is annoy though I'm glad he lost

If thats true it really didn't feel like it. Like he had that one game where he score liked 45 points so that might have helped average it to 25 but he lost so many posessions and missed so many shots. And that time he tripped over the ball last night, so rookie...jesus.

People hate him because the media hyped the ever living fuck out of him in 2015 and 2016. Thing is, everyone likes to shit on him because he can't put the team on his back and will them to win like other superstars can, but fail to realize that he's fucking tiny compared to other superstars. He can't just force his way through defenders like Jordan or Lebron. He doesn't have Harden's magical ability to get to the foul line every time he drives or shoots. It's a shame that people hate on him so much because he's pretty much the perfect example of a relatively normal sized guy making it in the NBA through hard work.

1. Messi
2. Kobe
3. Cristiano

He is, by far the most overrated wing defender EVER and it's not even close. Next year will expose him hard. No more single teams, enjoy being defended like every other decent player in the nba.

How the fuck are Messi and Ronaldo overrated? Not a single player of the last 2 or 3 decades was better than them

>he was a cunt a shit teammate
Just like Kobe, Jordan, Isiah Thomas, and every other worshiped NBA player.

No that would be one Lebron James. This fucker was heralded as the second coming of Jordan. He was anointed as the "chosen one" and the GOAT as a teenager. For years the media sucked his dick relentlessly, and for years he failed to live up to those lofty expectations. He got his coaches fired, he stacked teams with his friends and then cried about having no help when he lost (but took all of the credit when he won). And now he's with the fucking dumpster fire that is the Lakers where he'll probably finish his career without ever reaching the playoffs again.

>le chokes every game winner man
Yeah, he's overrated as fuck. Making hundreds of threes in the regular season when nothing is on the line is nice and all, but he's shown so many times that he can't do it when it actually matters. Nothing but a Durant, Klay and Draymond babby.

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overrated? he's a shit-tier midget jew.

>lost to a fucking leaf

cmon dude you trippin or you salty af

>Kobe won 5 rings before the age of 30.
>reached the Finals his 4th year at only 22.
>won repeat titles without Shaq after people called him washed up
>elite 1st tier All Star future HOF (ie KD etc) never "joined" Kobe to help him in their prime nor did he ever played in a Super-Team just to win a chip.
>played in a tougher Western Conf league his entire career.
>faced opponents (All Stars and future HOF) in their prime.
>faced tougher defenders 6'6 - 6'7" avg and was always double or triple defended even when injured.
>never afraid to take last second shots.
>NBA defensive player
>opponents' idea to take him out of the game was to poison his food in Sac back in 2002.
>or better yet nixing a fair trade in 2011 due to GM's and coaches in the league colluding to create the excuse of "Basketball Reasons" to prevent him from winning again.

GRASP HARDER

1. Kawhi
2. Lebron
3. Durant
4. Giannis
5. Harden
Steph literally isn’t even a top 5 player in the NBA right now

Pretty ok stats desu, he played well for being aggressively 2v1'd every possession and not playing with his regular line up.
>inb4 durr he needs stars, cry more band wagoner
Like every team sport, if you don't have your regular lineup chemistry it changes the whole dynamic of the game. All in all, he is a serial choker, he missed key shots that would at least pushed them to OT in game 6.

Don’t forget
> Shutdown prime Iverson in the 2001 finals during the year he was virtually unstoppable, like Jordan, Bird or Shaq levels
If Kobe doesn’t switch onto Iverson after Game 1, the 76ers win the championship

He was basically a glorified Ray Allen in a meme system

Can’t wait for the era of journeymen superteams popping up and blowing up just as fast

KD>>kawhi
*

>WTF, WHY DIDNT HE JUST CARRY THEM
Kawhi carried his team, Lebron carried his teams. Why can't Curry carry a team? He really can't win without literally an entire cast of all stars at every position????

how do you expect him to shoot out of 3 man coverage while being outmuscled by giant hulking faux-canadian niggas

>he failed to live up to those lofty expectations
I guess leading the finals in literally every statistic for both teams and leading your team to victory against the greatest regular season team of all time at full strength didn't do it for you. Too bad about your blind retard hatred, you missed the magnum opus of basketball

>Isiah Thomas
>shit teammate
>took the media salt generated by Rodman and Bill Laimbeer

>leading
he did no such thing. Kyrie suddenly developed superhuman shooting and drayboon got suspended

He was more then good
>its just his beta face he makes when he fail, you can see all the sadness in his eyes

Idk, Kawhi and Lebron do it though. That's the difference between arguably being the GOAT and just being a regular good NBA player who shoots well.

>0-8 in go ahead playoff shots during last 20 seconds

Yeah dude is a fucking choker. Average for anyone with more than 5 attempts is in the 20% but he's literally 0%

Inexcusable.

>he did no such thing.
He literally did though. He scored more than anybody on either team, he got more rebounds, more steals, more blocks, more assists. He was a God among men who did the most in literally every way. This is objective fact.

Kyrie played awful defense and wasted possessions, and even if you didn't understand what you were watching, every stat is still available for you to look at.

You're too dumb to discuss the topic, sorry pal

Bcsuse they played on stacked teams and had no injury troubles
Pre-bosman and with more defense friendly rules, they wouldnt be so special

Changed the game single handedly. He rewrote the record book. He's the GOAT in a Jerry Rice kind of way but like a Michael Jordan is a GOAT in a Tom Brady sort of way. At what Curry does there's never been any better and we may never see any better in our life. Another finesse 3 point sniping guard who is so good and dynamic he's capable of being the offensive focal point, lead the league in scoring, and have a higher behind the arc percentage than some guys have inside it? It's kind of silly when you think about it to think that Curry will go down as anything other than a unique member of the NBA pantheon with his own trademark style and legacy and whether Warriors haters like it or not he will forever be alive in the NBA because this style of basketball isn't going away. Toronto needed 3 3 points snipers of their own putting up 20+ points to finish this series and all hats off to em.

Hero's get remembered but legends never die and Curry is a legend full stop.

>Curry is a legend
He's Ray Allen XL. I guess if Ray Allen is a legend then Curry can be a legend too, but he's nowhere near GOAT status. He's nowhere near "best player in the league" status even.

>people hate steph because the media blew him out of proportion
true. why do people listen to sports analysts or any tv in general other than mindless background noise? it's nothing but programming

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>he's an XL version of a HOF player who won multiple ships
How does that not make him a legend you dim witted retard.
>pffft Wilt? He's not a legend he's just a bigger stronger more talented Rick Barry, so pretty much a bust y'know?

This. Only dumb people watch TV to get educated. Smart people watch TV for the enjoyment only, there's no educational or informative value from TV.

>How does that not make him a legend you dim witted retard.
I said it makes him a legend, so long as you consider Ray Allen a legend you illiterate mouthbreather, fucktard cunt.

This.

That's a bullshit stat though. Every team knows the Warriors are going to try to get the ball to Curry in the last seconds so they cover the shit out of him.

>Bill Simmons

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>in terms of theoretical talent around him and turns out there possible alternative reasons why Bill dominated Wilt in terms of rings
imagine thinking made up stats count for anything

Allen is a solid tier beneath Curry. Curry has deeper range and better 3s off the handle and Curry's numbers dwarf Allen's and they weren't playing in radically different eras. Allen is a great HoF but not a legend.

0-8 dumbass. 0-8. 0-8

3-1. 0-8. 3-1. 0-8

If Allen is not a legend, neither is Curry. Allen changed the game, tard faggots like Curry wouldn't exist without Ray radically changing the dynamic of the game.

>everyone else with at least 5 attempts is in the 20%

>bullshit stat

Why is Curry the exception? We fucking killed LeBron for this same stat for years and he at least has 2 game winners

Dude what kind of meth are you on to put curry in the same sentence with Jerry rice and Michael Jordan. All curry can do is shoot deep threes, he's a bad defender and it has been proven time and time again when teams play him physically he cannot handle it

If he was full black he'd be a better player.

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I would add Reggie Miller to that as well

kawhi and lebron do that.

>he rates lebum
wait wut

based as shit, also checked

GOAT 3-point shooter and face/leader of a franchise builder team, brought warriors from obscurity to a dynasty with only two other home drafted guys and one FA, plus multiple benches, the rival of the greatest basketball star playing at the turn of the millennium

the team carried Kawhi tbqh, unbelievable performances from basically everybody other than kawhi, who was great, but not spectacular. him getting fmvp was a silver move, it could've gone to 2-3 of the other guys easily. curry played unbelievably in the series on offense, is not allowed to play defense and so he doesn't, was doubled or tripled the whole time. it cemented his greatness by being him being great anyway. when everythings crumbling around you and the whole world wants you to lose, you're the underdog, and this whole thing was really fucked up, but he killed it

Not the same type of player at all. Curry is le wait for an open jump shot man. So way easier to defend against that when it matters.
Not saying Curry is as good as Lebron or Kawhi but that "clutch" stat is kind of dumb.

I wouldn't disagree. he's just overrated. he's not a top 5 player. I think that's what the thread is about

>with only two other home drafted guys and one FA
Ah yes, those guys and the FA.

>the historical revision
when the dubs won their first ring in 2015, they were nobodies from an irrelevant franchise who beat a team custom tailored to the greatest playing player young man. they aren't fucking baseball cards

The Golden State Warriors unironically broke the NBA regular season record with 73 wins, came back from a 3-1 deficit against the Oklahoma City Thunder, gained a 3-1 lead on the Cleveland Cavaliers in the NBA Finals, and then lost 3 games in a row and did not win the championship. Stephen Curry unironically won unanimous MVP, back to back MVPs, and exclaimed "We not goin' home!" during a game, before being blocked by LeBron James a record 7 times in one series and indeed going home. Klay Thompson unironically said in a post game interview after going up 3-1 that basketball "is a man's game" and LeBron James "got his feelings hurt", LeBron proceeded to average 36pts/12ast/10reb and won the next 3 games and the championship. Draymond Green unironically avoided suspension for kicking Steven Adams in the balls twice, then STILL continued to play dirty and finally got suspended during the most important series of his life and ultimately cost his team its once historic and now infamous season. These things all actually happened, the thoughts of this reality stay with me at all times. I go to sleep at night looking up at the stars, wondering what celestial being aligned the universe in such a way to make an event as amazing as this occur. I wake up smiling every morning knowing that the Warriors genuinely went 73-9 and choked a 3-1 lead in the Finals. That even if time is a nonlinear fourth dimension, going to back to stop it from happening will simply create another universe where it happens again. That the state of ass-blastedness emanating from the city of Oakland is eternal and infinite, it crosses countless dimensions of the multiverse and its unending torment knows no bounds. I gaze into the endless cosmic wonders around me, still in disbelief that it actually happened, but knowing that my purpose in life was to be born just in time to see LeGod get one for da land.

Amen.

Sure there's guys who started specializing in 3s going back to the late 80s but Curry was the tipping point. Check the numbers

CAREER
1. Ray Allen* 2973
2. Reggie Miller* 2560
3. Stephen Curry 2483
SINGLE SEASON
1. Stephen Curry 402 2015-16
2. James Harden 378 2018-19
3. Stephen Curry 354 2018-19
4. Stephen Curry 324 2016-17
5. Paul George 292 2018-19
6. Stephen Curry 286 2014-15
7. Buddy Hield 278 2018-19
8. Klay Thompson 276 2015-16
9. Stephen Curry 272 2012-13
10. Ray Allen* 269 2005-06
>50% of all of the highest single season ranks are Curry
>all seasons higher than number 9 took place in Curry's NBA
Curry changed the game more than any other player since Bill Russel and Wilt Chamberlain.

Curry will be the #1 career 3 point shooter in two seasons at most. He'll be a few months shy of his 33rd birthday. He could retire at 32 years of age and be the greatest 3 point shooter of all time.

He's Jerry Rice. Other guys have nice receiving years nobody has his career best to ever do it even if it was only a specific role.

In the end for a 6'2 PG he's the Allen Iverson of the 3 point shot except he's on a way better team. He gets alot of pts for a position that has to get rebounds, assists, and pts to be successful.

hey guise
talk about me instead

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checked and fucking based

>imagine being such a cucked Canadian that instead of pumping up the first and only Canadian team to win the NBA Finals you choose to post a stale pasta that sucks off LeBron James, the man who routinely killed Toronto in the post season
Frankly its a shame. You should be proud of the rapties, I know I am.

the topic of the thread is curry. it's salt in the wound brother

So he's completely dependent on his 2 other top 15 teammates?

>he's a bad defender
More than sufficient vs the offense he brings check his career +/- he's number 10 all time.
>not taking every available moment to talk about your current reign and rub THAT salt in
A fucking sad, cringey leaf but what else is new. All respect and all love to the raptors they are a great team and earned the win and played gritty all post season.

Depends, I honestly don't see him achieving the same heights with any other team, but being completely developed into a key piece for a system with constant success isn't done by an average player.
The league killed Iso-ball after changing defense rules, whoever runs the team is a genius for sticking to draft picks and developing them into sharphooters.

Steph puts up empty numbers. He's in the same class as Harden and westbrook. Meaningless stats.

Players like Durant, Lebron, kawaii, Klay, etc are the ones who actually impact the game. Curry is just a shooter.

>wait and jump shot
No he creates and drains 3s like they're fade aways in the paint. Not only that he's a great passer and off ball player.

oh you're an assblasted curry cocksucker lmao. makes sense.
>implying i've only made one post today on all of Yea Forums
i bet you think people can't walk and chew gum at the same time

Jordan was probably the worst team-mate of all time, but he's still the GOAT.

be serious.
he literally changed the game -- from moronic giants just storming the key for brainless dunks to elite-skill long-range shooting.
not to mention his peerless ball-handling.

And still he's massively overrated

He's a liability the second half of game 6. Raptors' defense was endless

this should shut people up for good

6ers were never winning that one

based takes

wilt and bill were in a 2-man era, it was them and everybody else. the problem was bill had the stacked teams so muh rings

At least I'm not feigning retardation with the type of hollow, pithy hot takes that are beneath even the worst hot take artists in the media. Cool bro you posted some retarded garbage takes and "totally trolled" me by have your ass whipped rhetorically up one side and down the other this entire thread. Quality job there.

hot take lonzo ball is better than steph

Just like every other star player and they all shot better even though the ball was even more likely to go to them in those situations

what was the most pure era for the nba, like the one that doesn't have as many "muhs"?
all I know is that the 90s and 00s were full of sternball and the league whoring out nike

He meant as a black hole on the court. You don't take shots to the point the other guys on the team can't get a feel for the flow of the game. Even Jerry West and Elgin Baylor barely tolerated Wilt.

Basically every star player that played before the 90s is overrated and would be a role player in the modern nba

he can't even create his own shots, relies screens like a faggot

holy christ bro it's just TV lol

This. He's not an impact player. He just shoots the hell out of the ball, almost never in a meaningful situation. When he plays well, it doesn't determine the outcome of the game. When he actually needed to hit a shot last night, he went 0-8.

youtu.be/MUNxgBWLJM8
Stay retarded. What are you some kind of faggot casual bandwagoning the Raptors for life since game 3 of the finals?

plus he's not even black

they would've had a better chance winning yesterday if curry got injured instead of thompson

You can separate the NBA into 3 eras:
>The Beginning/Wonder Years (1945-1977)
>Post-Merger (1980s-2004)
>Post-Malice (2004-Present)
The merger made players spread the floor a lot better than the clusters of the Wonder Years on defense, while the Malice in the Palace practically rewrote the culture on defense. Plays became less physical, more penalties waited defenders on attempts at contact, driving was made easier for those not just at the rim, but on the way to the rim ...

That at the Lakers'/Spurs dominance by their big men between 1999-2003 had David Stern sweating buckets because they were losing viewers, so he "reopened the lane" for wing players to be dominant again, despite no need for it to be so.

>trying to deflect the verbal evisceration
Fuck you're such a sad sack your mother should have dropped you in the nearest river.

LeBron and Kobe both in the new sports media era, both overrated almost to cartoon levels.

tfw next season, Steph is gonna shatter his own record cuz it will only be him, Draymond, and 8-10 bargain bin veterans

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allen iverson had better stats then this

didnt curry pretty much forced every team to start shooting 3 pointers?

yeah, kind of.. he was part of the first team that realized (and started) shooting an extremely high volume of 3s could come out positive in the scheme of scoring/offense.

Don't forget my nigga Marvin Bagley tho

He's an incredibly talented pointman but he wasn't born with the clutch gene. An opener, reliant on another player to close for him.

Explain game 5 in Toronto mouth breather.

The first team to do that was the Rockets. The Spurs are probably the first to win a championship with an offense based around mostly jump shots. The Warriors are just the best at it because they have great shooters and Kerr basically copied Pop's offensive system.

meme chuck gets lucky sometimes

The go-ahead goal attempt (the clutch) was on Lowry (TOR), not Curry. Do you have brain damage? Do you understand what clutching means?

Glass cannon offense was always his specialty even back to his Davidson days. Ephemeral defense and a propensity to tire out with the primary play-making load was the cost.

>Who would have predicted that such a min-max player would eventually transform the league?
>Given a facilitating run-and-gun team, where all 4 other players contribute to spacing and pick up the defensive slack.

Literally every fan of the mid 2000's SSOL Suns. They simply did not have the at-will 3-point threat (or defense), so Steve Kerr blew it all up for geriatric Shaq and sat on the formula for a decade.

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>gets outplayed by a teammate every finals
yikes

>It was them and everyone else
Jerry West
Elgin Baylor
Oscar Robertson
Walt Bellamy
Jerry Lucas
Bailey Howell
Nate Thurmond
Willis Reed

Every team had a fucking star and West/Baylor made the Finals more times than Wilt until the 1967 season when he had the miraculous epiphany that "maybe stats aren't everything". Wilt's legend could have overshadowed Jordan's for all-time. He could have taken 3 or 4 more rings away from Russell, but he always caved into his box score obsession, and that's what made Russell the better player. His ability to lift the team without being on the box score (even when he was).

In a one-on-one tournament, Wilt comes up on top. No one would beat him. It's him and him alone. Basketball, however, is you and four other guys trying to beat the five on the other side.

only one mentioning is the big o, he was more elite than the rest there. but wilt/bill were a tier above everybody else

I agree, but calling them "everyone else" is disingenuous, especially Jerry West.

Idk if anyone really rates him that highly. He’s a meme chucker who has to get carried in the finals.

Yikes

>humble
>runs down court, meme chucks a three and it goes in
>starts shimmy dancing
>humble

25 points is average in the NuNBA where touching players is illegal and the moving screen is never enforced.

THIS

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I didn't say Lebron wasn't great. I said he was overrated. And he was. Massively. Not my fault you're too much of a Lebron stan to see it.

Why wouldn’t they double him if there wasn’t a second option you retard?

>basketball is a team sport
lmao

Comparing any other shooter to steph curry isn't doing him justice. Curry literally warps defenses from the half court line and stretches it to retarded lengths. Theres a reason why the warriors since 2015 have had such a insane offense and its because steph curry is the greatest shooter of all time in terms of volume+efficiency and his team has an easier time because of it. Ray allen and reggie miller are not in the same discussion and youre a clown if you think so.

I guess we'll find out how good he is next season since he won't have Durant or Thompson. Their starting rotation will probably be Curry, Green, Looney, and two nobodies. Iguodala and Livingston are too old to be playing starter minutes and I can't imagine they're keeping Cousins around.

80s and 90s were peak NBA.

I think his go ahead 3 in game 5 with a minute left was meaningful enough. Or are buzzerbeaters the only meaningful shots in basketball?

This is probably true. Klay looked like he was on his way to dropping 50+.

Iverson had to deal with Shaw. Isiah Thomas scored 27 points in a quarter on a sprained ankle. Stephanie is just a fraud

He just makes the guys around him better. That's what a leader does. :^)

4 - Jordan
3 - Cristiano
2 - Federer
1 - Brady

Remember, in game 6 he actually shot 38% from 3, but also had three, end of quarter 3/4 shots that hurt his stat line.

Take out his 0 for 9 on full court shots and it makes it look a hair better

Curry is an insane shooter, and that does open up space for other players, but he's really not an impressive passer or playmaker. On the other side of the ball, he's just not a great defender, and this is his biggest limitation imo. LeBron, Jordan, and Kawaii currently, could all turn the game around with defensive plays. Curry simply doesn't have the size, length, or speed to be impactful on defense. If he's not hitting his 3's, he's not an impact player.

Am I the only one sort of looking forward to this? I think as an overall player, Curry is overrated, but he really can shoot it from anywhere. I'm curious how many points he could average per season taking 25 shots a game.

Anyone have the webm of Embiid faking Gasol and then dunking on the Rapties?

0 - Stephanie
-1 - Hueland

Everyone not named Klay was scoring points because he was double teamed even in the locker room

99.5% of the NBA players wish they were good as Ray Allen, if you are an XL version of Ray Allen you are damn good

>until the 1967 season when he had the miraculous epiphany that "maybe stats aren't everything"
You mean "Rick Barry just joined the team and can win the game in 4q when Wilt shits in his pants"

Jerry West is the best player of the 60s

Most of those are from those 2-3 years when games averaged like 130 points because no one was defending, literally a black and white version of the current All Star Game, after that the NBA had to talk with players because no one was watching the games anymore since were shit

Bill always stepped up in the post season playoff while Wilt was the GOAT regular season player. It helps to have strong cast during a 7 game series becuase each defect and weakness is magnified and it also helps to be stack so you can adapt to match ups on the fly.

Bill shit on Wilt 1v1 lmao

I don't think it's possible to overrate the single greatest performance the NBA has ever seen.

It's an untouchable performance. For anyone to even match it, they have to meet the greatest regular season team of all time in the Finals, and THEN proceed to lead EVERY. SINGLE. STATISTIC. FOR. BOTH. TEAMS.

It really is impossible to overrate that performance, by objective standards.

>0(zero) fMVPs in 5 tries
Maybe he should try being the best and most impactful player on the biggest stage just one fucking time for it to be even a discussion, no?

>Jerry West is the best player of the 60s
There were only 12 teams in the 60s. lol

Not statistically. It was lopsided in favor of Wilt.

Ray Allen is one of the best shooters of all time.

I mean, he was probably the best player on the court for the warriors the whole series. There were so many times where GS would be doing absolutely nothing and he'd have like half his team's points. Its almost impossible to have the accolades and records he has and be overrated

Ray Allen and Reggie Miller showed up in the playoffs, played in a more difficult era, and ran up against all timers(MJ, Shaw, Kobr, etc.)

This fraud can't win without a massive talent advantage and still looks thoroughly unimpressive even when he does

What's the correlation?

Wilt was better than Russell on 1vs1
What made Russell great is that he was an awesome team player other than the best defender of his generation
Wilt had the biggest ego ever and failed every time because the best player can't beat the best team alone

Ray is a complete player, not only a shooter

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>Curry simply doesn't have the size, length, or speed to be impactful on defense
he's probably showing decline but up until this year he's been an elite-level steals guy

MJ and Shaw averaged like 35-40 in the Finals with handcheck, kek

Steals doesn't make you a great defender
Harden is always high on steals

Curry is simply an average defender that understand the right things to do in that system and that helps awesome defenders like Klay and Draymond who are able to cover his weakness

It is also true that there was no zone in their era

>all this dick riding
He had a couple years where his handle was tight and he was just punishing players. Then he got content and lost his game. Honestly, he's good, but not in a top-anything kind of way, more in a footnote to NBA history kind of way with a fuck load of media attention. In abstract he looks good until you realize Klay is a comparable player who has literally never not played with him. By having two shooters like that on the court, the numbers are really biased in his favor, but the reality is, no one would take him as the lone star on their team. He's not someone you build your young core around. He came around at the perfect time, is marketable as fuck, and plays like a videogame character, but that doesn't mean he's someone who deserves the praise he gets. Like Harden, history will tell if context matters as much as it should.

Yeah his handle is significantly worse now then in his prime- still near the top of the league, but he was a damn wizard in his prime. And he's still the best volume shooter in the league, but he's again not as good as his prime. And I don't think he's as quick as his prime either.

He'll get every chance to fix his image early next year though, since it'll be just him and draymond basically for the first few months. We'll see how those guys would do on a normal team that isn't absolutely stacked with juggernaut-level talent.

Curry has proven to be quite injury prone also, particularly earlier in his career. Hopefully the stress of carrying a team for the first time in more than 5 years doesn't destroy his body, he's almost getting too old to be able to have that kind of workload.

>he's like this guy
>he's like that guy
No he's really fucking not like any of those guys. Curry's numbers are absolutely peerless you retarded canuck

>Kobe: 3peat
>Curry: no 3peat
>Kobe: won a chip by himself (without shaw)
>Curry: needed Klay, Green, and Durrant to carry him (got exposed by Kyrie in 2016, exposed himself in 2019)
See the pattern?

>Talent

Wilt was a giant Greek god playing mostly against white dudes he was 2 heads taller than.

that would be LeBron

absolutely based

> a high volume of 3 pointers might yield a higher score than dunks and layups.

Whoa, who could have thought...

Too bad that goes against the spirit of the game.
When the NBA put in the three point line, it was designed solely to add interest to close games, not to be spammed like it is currently desu

>have GOAT teams
>fuck up one finals with being a shitty defender and making a terrible behind the back pass and lose
>fuck up the other one by being a choker and taking poor shots
>get carried in others

It's impressive how Lebron who has agency to create him super teams and Curry who lucked out into having 5 superstars on his team can't even 3 peat.

>Kobe: won a chip by himself (without shaw)
That was a very good team though. They had the best front court in basketball at the time. I think the closest we really came to someone actually carrying a team to a title (in recent history) was Dirk with the Mavs.

>The Spurs are probably the first to win a championship with an offense based around mostly jump shots.
They really focused on moving the ball and 3-point efficiency (and open layups). I don't think they were ever near the top of the league in attempts. You're right, the Warriors probably perfected this system because their shooters are so good. Other teams saw how beneficial the 3-pointer was (plus Curry shooting it from everywhere) and decided it was a good idea to volume chuck. Unfortunately most teams don't have the shooters for it, so now we get to see a lot of missed threes by players who really shouldn't be shooting them.

I wasn't around for 18-1 here but I imagine this chokejob was similar

Steph is literally the son of a groupie whore. What do you expect?

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>muh Bill stepped up in the post season!
Wilt always outplayed Bill, but Bill's teammates stepped up

based white man

>No that would be one Lebron James. This fucker was heralded as the second coming of Jordan. He was anointed as the "chosen one" and the GOAT as a teenager. For years the media sucked his dick relentlessly, and for years he failed to live up to those lofty expectations. He got his coaches fired, he stacked teams with his friends and then cried about having no help when he lost (but took all of the credit when he won). And now he's with the fucking dumpster fire that is the Lakers where he'll probably finish his career without ever reaching the playoffs again.

Someone get Skip his glass of warm milk, he's getting cranky again