#BoycottFIFA

4000 less migrants polluting the damn sea, overrunning cities, taking jobs away from proper folks, and bringing terrorism. Thank you Qatar. Best World Cup ever.

Give it to us and New Zealand pls

I bet you this guys doesn’t even follow soccer.

They're talking about worker related deaths.

I wonder how many things Paul Jones owns and purchases that come from slave labor

>tftp

who is this migrant you're even talking about

Thousands of people don't die making shoes do they retard

why are workers dying

most of them are indians and such, they don't come to europe

So far only one person died and it was because he got hit by a car when he went for coffee. See i can make up random numbers too.

Are you sure thousands haven't died making shoes in slave shops? Sounds like starving and over worked children might die occasionally
Go moan about other things instead of crying that you didn't get a world cup you weren't going to win either way

The FIFA shilling ITT is disgraceful.

600k Iraqis died for oil and Israel,no one in the US lost a single minute of sleep. This is just virtue signaling.

Sorry 460k.

The point of contention is there shouldn't be any slave labour. There was one death in the construction of the stadiums in South Africa which is far worse off than Qatar. Typical of an American to think unsafe working conditions are the default.

>No one in the US opposed the Iraq War

>The point of contention is there shouldn't be any slave labour
>Defends slave labor when it's children making his "trainers" while being pissy over the world cup
Glad you didn't get it, all this entitled whining reminds me of beckham and his knighthood tantrums

Qatar still basically has slavery.
The country is a desolate shithole with 120 degree temps

it still completely blows away how FIFA, even as corrupt as they were, actually gave them a cup

Again, people don't die en masse making shoes and clothing. It's not fundamentally unsafe. A few may die due to exhaustion (post some facts and figures if you want). You're also comparing mass manufacturing to the biggest, richest event in the world that doesn't have a history of this type or thing even from third world countries. Also why are you talking about David Beckham? Is there an IQ limit threshold you have to be below to be a tripfag?

The sad fact is these modern slaves are mostly the most impoverished indian kids desperate to feed themselves and their family. It's been going on for thousands of years and not much can or will be done to stop it. It's good to shine a light on it to at least improve the safety of the working conditions.

I'm sure if you look at all the children who have died over the years making shoes in a sweatshop, it would be staggering but you don't care because you're pretending to have morals when it's just about not getting the world cup
Because it seems to be an english trait, the hypocrisy and false morality along with the we're gentlemen horseshit

no one cares paki

You’re a retard. The death rate of workers in Qatar is lower than the death rate of all people in Pakistan or India. Even the leftist BBC agrees. 4000 have died because they have almost two million employed.

So I just investigated further. About 250 workers die per year in Qatar per half a million people. In the UK 300 people die per half a million people, per year. It seems being a worker in Qatar is quite safe.

In case anyone doesn’t know, the 4000 number includes all deaths and not just work related deaths

Some people are just too retarded.

still an awful high number for people attached to the same job in a short period of time.

does it include desert machine gunnings and burials in unmarked graves?

No. It’s a far smaller death rate than in most countries. In America alone 25 people die from homicide per 500k. And homicide is a pretty low contributor to deaths in the US. Indians are safer working in Qatar than they’re living in India (or the US, the UK or my country for all that matters)

>'m sure if you look at all the children who have died over the years making shoes in a sweatshop, it would be staggering

Post some stats.

>but you don't care
Assumption based on nothing.

>you're pretending to have morals when it's just about not getting the world cup

Another assumption. I couldn't give a shit about |England hosting the world cup

Great arguments.

>In the UK 300 people die per half a million people, per year

From what? Are you actually implying 39,000 people in the UK die from unsafe working conditions? Or is that stat from everyone, the vast majority of it being old people dying?

Lmao the typical entitled prick reply. Using statistics when they serve you but saying the stats are fake when you’re proven wrong like the mouth breathing retard that you are.

Not just about the deaths but also the generals conditions. They take their passports and withold the money the workers are due so even if you wanted to, there is no escape.

The data includes all causes of death. It’s the number of workers who died, not just from working conditions.

Fpbp

>south american education
yeah a state that restricts its internet more heavily than china and exists in a permanent state of martial law is definitely going to have accurate crime data

You're an absolute retard. The deaths recorded are specifically for stadium workers, what is the rate for that specific population, not the entire population of Qatar? Bootlicking piece of shit.

still safer than where those third world workers come from

So it's an utterly pointless comparison? Good to know.

We're talking about people dying from unsafe working conditions though

The world needs slave labour, if some migrant workers need to die for progress then so be it.

Did Vice tell you that? It’s true they needed a permit from their employers to leave the country but since 2018 a law passed so that they can leave without asking anyone. And as far as the conditions are, they’re workers. They’d be living far worse off in their countries.

You’re the typical first worlder living in a bubble trying to “help” people who never asked for your help. If it was up to you you’d force the workers to go back to their countries by taking the WC away from Qatar. Do you think they’d be happy? Fuck no. I hate people like you

The FIFA shilling and whataboutisms in this thread, my god.

That's the reality of things and these faggots pretend to be appalled as they buy shit and complain when prices go up a few cents
Hypocrites and vaginas

Turn your trip off and drink bleach

250 per 500k is the death rate of workers. The Indian government agrees. Even te lefty BBC agrees. They’re safer and living in better conditions than in India.

gotta make sure they respect their contract and don't leave after 3 monthes

All parties that are profiting or will profit off this event. Odd to me. Got anything from third parties by any chance?

>MUH BBC
did they have an independent auditor at all construction sites? no they simply reported on Indian-Qatari data
>MUH INDIANS
yeah they send low casters to death without giving a fuck and are being paid by qatar to keep the PR good
>MUH QATARIS
literal animals

The Indians are profiting? The BBC are?

Even when you not include older people into the death rate statistics, 700 people aged 20-24 (the average worker age I assume) die per 500k in America. nahic.ucsf.edu/downloads/Mortality.pdf
Compare that with the 250 per 500k for migrant workers
Workers are far, far safer in Qatar. The only argument is crying MUH FAKE STATS like a retard. Even the stuff about keeping their passports while it used to be true is against the law now.

where is this 500k number coming from? By most accounts there are 30k-40k workers for the world cup, the group from which the 4k reported deaths come from. What is your stake in making such blatantly untrue lies?

Reminds me of the Huawei situation, all these countries who spy on their own citizens moaning as if China is doing anything different. Or when they're going on about >based putin with all the human rights shit with Russia
Loads of hypocrisy is all it is

I've been to Dubai and seen the conditions there. Also nigs from all over too. Dubai is the heart of prostitution and human trafficking among many other things. And get fucked you mestizo please tell me where i said what you claim, you're just pulling words out of your fat gaucho arse.
Yes i'm sure those who arrive penniless and work for $1.50 a day can afford the $500 return tickets. Like i said, the conditions should be respectable like it is elsewhere in humanity

>700 people aged 20-24 (the average worker age I assume) die per 500k in America.

That's 448,000 people. 448,000 people aged between 20 and 24 die per year in the US? Does that stat sound accurate to you?

40k? You have literally no idea what you're talking about. It's mind boggling how you even came up with such a low number. 88% of Qatar is made up of workers. Just 700k are Indians.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Qatar

The 4k death figures are extremely low for the 20-30 yo demographics. In India, 1000 die per 500k per year.

Yeah. I can't believe you're such a retard that you're even arguing something as basic as that. 2.7 million people die each year in the US.

Why are you comparing the death rates of the general populace? You do know people die of cancer, old age, by getting run over, heart attacks and such, whilst people in Qatar are dying from unsafe working conditions?

You are the biggest retard in this thread

Yes. And did you know that the death figures include all causes of death? These aren't work related accidents. Some of them are, but they include deaths from all causes.

This isn't anything to do with 88% of Qatar Mr. Shill. This is to do with the very specific 40k fifa stadium worker population, from which 4k died in a small amount of time.

they basically have slave labor in the gulf states. the construction companies go grab a ton of people from india, nepal, bangladesh and there's a law, the 'kafala system', that basically let's it go overlooked

The stats aren't about the stadium workers. They include all workers.

They do not.

Yes, most of them are old people.

Attached: deaths.png (1048x374, 55K)

they earn more there than in their shithole, some dude would be content with the money theyr earned and they want to go back

They do you mouth breathing idiot.
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0203996

Ah my mistake. This report cites a few things that say the 4k number is a projection of what might happen by 2022 given trends of the time. Instead the real number is around 1500 as of 2019. Still really bad for a population of 40k stadium workers and nowhere near your incredibly low numbers using general population.

Yeah my bad, I just said yes because I assumed you had done your math right. But you didn't. My bad for thinking you could do simple arithmetic.
About 25 million males 20-24 live in the us. That's 25000000/100000 = 250, 250 * 140 (death rate per 100k, equivalent to 700 per 500k) = 35k from a simple estimate that more or less fits your data.

who cares about literal slaves?

Nah, it's all adult males building the stadium. It's why there's very little media attention to it, men are disposable.
If thousands of women were being enslaved and dying building these stadiums imagine the fucking outrage from that

Nowhere does it say that. I think you're literally brain dead

Just take it away from them and give it to Italy, Spain or England. I'm sure nobody would mind and those three are countries that don't need to build or expand stadiums and haven't hosted an international tournament in a while. Give Qatar automatic qualification to keep them quiet.

Yes you stupid fuck that's what i said. Of course they travel on the promise they'll earn some money, which is often witheld. It's not about the economics but the basic human rights. Most workers don't realise the slave conditions they're put into until it's too late at which point they've no escape.

There's a BBC program "India's Frontier Railways" in which the episode on Nepal shows a Nepalese teenager looking to get to work in Qatar so he can save enough to come back and go to higher education

Thats Qatar's fault not FIFA

>Give Qatar automatic qualification to keep them quiet.
Yeah I'm sure they'll be content with that.

If it were half a million Jews ot would be called Holocaust 2: Electric Boogaloo. Buts it ugly Iraqis who gives a fuck. Where is their memorial? I say this as a non Iraqi who literally doesnt give a fuck about them. I'm just pointing g out the double standard is all.

Literally wouldn't care if they cancelled the whole World Cup (also wouldn't care if they cancelled a World Cup in Europe)

Literally wouldn't care if football as a sport would be cancelled. It's all business now.