Jokes and memes aside (legitimately serious), if he wins the NL he honestly deserves the ballon d’or

fact is if VVD cant win it this year then you might as well make it attacking players only

imagine thinking there is ANYONE better than Messi in this world

youtube.com/watch?v=wPjabMkCyZA

This is just passing ability THIS YEAR. Better than players all-time highlight videos.

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FIFA will never EVER give the ballon d'or to a defender again, accept it

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He was 16th in 2009 while a Messi with an inferior performance as current Messi won it.

you could have said that in years where owens, sheva, nedved etc won, but messi this year is dominating

no they won't, they won't make the record of Ballon D'ors impossible to ever achieve again so they will give it to whoever has the best instagram profile until both players retire

why should they give an award to a player who was inferior to matip

>messi this year is dominating
The goals that VVD stopped were more important that the goals Messi scored

problem is he hasnt dominated anything apart from paella farmers

Lel vidic didnt play every game that season like VVD, which explains the lower goals conceded

scored 2 goals vs lvierpool, while VVD looked poor twice

You thought that was argument, when there are a lot of other statistics where he's above VVD with playing less games?

and then he got humiliated so badly at anfield he might never recover
cant give the ballon to someone like that

VVD is overrated, De Ligt was better than him today and Matip baled him out against Barca

In preparation of our victory in the Nations League next sunday every Dutch person has put NL on their license plate.

>play worse than de ligt
>play worse than matip
>get the credit

this guy is becoming as unlikable as kane last year. fucking english fanbases are ungodly delusional.

yeah give it to the overrated manmountain instead for a season countless of defenders had already without even finishing top 5

>Matip baled him out against Barca
Low iq opinion. The defender that is constantly stepping out and making challenges may make the highlights but when they fuck up it's the second guy that covers their ass

>chokes consistently for his nt
>dabbed on by his own son

fuck messoy

>matip steps up and consistently stops barcelona
you're right, matip was better

Yeah, covering defenders look better because when they intervene the other defender already made half the job for them by putting the attacking player into a bad position. Glad you noticed

Except the defender that steps out is often left out of position because there are usually more attackers than there are defenders

>there are usually more attackers than there are defenders
No it's not the usual situation that the defense is outnumbered in their own penalty area

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If the opposition is Burnley then sure

>there are usually more attackers than there are defenders

There are usually 4 defenders. Most teams play with a front 3 + midfielder providing up to 5-6 attackers at times

No because Messi is the best player in the world. Alison was better for Liverpool this season anyway

yeah fuck you

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So you're telling me you actually watch games, just team compositions?

>There are usually 4 defenders. Most teams play with a front 3 + midfielder providing up to 5-6 attackers at times

>muh tackles interceptions
>for a defender
Most tackle/interception leaders are midfielders; that should tell you what you need to know

What about blocked crosses, is that also something midfielders do?

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So youre saying mbappe should get the balloon dior ahead of vvd?

What's the difference between an interception and a blocked pass?