You now remember when this was a debate

Prime pep is barca pep. Who spent less money than Klopp.

Minus Klopp, prior to getting 0-5'd by Poop, it was a real debate between Chadinho and Poop

Messi wasn't winning CLs left and right before pep.

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>2 CL

Lol

a vacation from a shitty team

Is that Obi-Wan?

Curious why people rate Klopp over Zidane for example? He has a better trophy cabinet.
One more than Klopp and 13 more prems as well.

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>couldn't bully refs for special treatment and 15 minutes of extra time every game in the CL so he could only fluke his way to a win it
Overrated

People will rate him if he actually manages to fix madrid and do well next season. He only had to shout vamos every 5 minutes to win his CLs with the team he got given

don’t forget that Klopp only wins stuff when the other teams (Bauern league and one of the weakest CL seasons in terms of big teams performing) are at an all time low.

I wouldn't say that. They were pretty aging squad who were struggling to keep up with barca. If he had only won CLs one could dismiss it as luck but he also won a la liga.

with refball
with outspending everyone
with poaching players (see buyern of today)

klopp>mourinho>pep

vamosman is awesome

Holy shit this trash board won't even give credit to Klopp when he wins the CL and only loses the EPL by a small fraction, what else does he need to do?
Is it really just the seethe over reddit liking him?

Wheres the 1000 dicks sucked

Hes just too new as a manager, this guy has potential to be one of the managers of the 2020s however imo

Winning the CL against a real team for starters. Tottenham was non-league tier, not that Liverpool was much better but.

Mou
Klopp
Pep

Good managers can perform with or without a stacked team. Comparatively and objectively this matters.
End of debate.

t. jürgen

This needs >moyes to be a true debate tbqh.

4-0 against Barcelona for starters
not Klopp's fault Ajax were too strong for Real Madrid

Bitch they eliminated 3 champions on the way to the final. Wtf else do you want them to do lmao

or Barcelona were to strong for Pep

>money (help)
>what is refball money (help)
Also, you think HGH treatments are cheap?

Mou>Pep>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Whoever that last guy is

I unironically think Liverpool succeeded this year because many of the usual big dogs are in a transition period. Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve, have aging squads that should've been rejuvenated much earlier.

I also blame shitty for choking against spuds. They beat them multiple times this year but their one defeat to them had to be in the fucking CL of all places.

Next CL we might see a much more competitive Real and Bayern at the very least.(Barca boomers seem to have too much influence unfortunately)

Mourinho was right all along

Barca won la liga in feb and boomers have dominated the CL for the last decade. That's not an excuse user

>only 2 cl
>just barely over 50% win rate
kek

>>pep literally can’t win the CL without messi

this is false paki Pep and Messi can't win without Xavi and Iniesta

All time:
1. Mou (won it all and without spending a billion)
3. Klopp (turned two mediocre teams into european giants)
2. Pep (won it all but with the best team in history)

Currently:
1. Klopp
2. Pep
3. Mou

>Mourinho
Won 2 UCL legit

>Klopp
needed refball to beat Malaga and Spurs

>Pep
can't win without doping and uefalona referees

These boomers were reasonably young when each dominated user. With the exception of maybe the last two real wins which had the best CL player ever.(just look at how the remaining boomers crumbled without him).

#
Cringe. People forget refball was in chelshits favour in the first leg and everybody dopes.
>2. Pep (won it all but with the best team in history)

He made it one of the best teams ever. They were behind real in the league by over 20 points in the previous season. He arrived cleared out immensely talented players like Etoo, Ronaldinho that most other managers would never dare to do, brought up Barca B players that now people pretend like they were already there for pep to inherit.

no, that american

Mou>Pep>>>>>>>>Klopp
What is Klopp's finals record?

i think any of these managers could win the CL without spending a billion. they would need to get really lucky because so many things would have to fall into place. winning the CL is such a roll of the dice these managers wouldn't waste their time trying to drag some mid level team to the top of europe anymore. there's just no time for that.
do you honestly think mourinho is going back to a club like porto and inter and try to win the CL? unlikely. the gap now is even bigger.

all barca related CLs are going to be revoked just like Juves Serie A titles. The amount of blatant cheating and refball Barca did in all x4 of their CL runs is nothing short of absolutely disgusting and appalling.

based. Mou is the best by quite some margin, followed by Klopp. Pep is literally a money system babby

Mou is the king of winning, he creates winner teams.

Klopp can overtake Mou if he keeps on creating liverpool into a powerhouse considering how fucking shit liverpool was when he took over, but only if klopp keeps winning alot of trophies.

Pep can just go kill himself. Hasnt won the CL since he cheated with Uefalona. Also, he only wins domestic titles with fucking Bayern and Man city who has unlimited transfer funds. Its pathetic how overrated this faggot manager is.

poop is messi baby

>People forget refball was in chelshits favour in the first leg and everybody dopes
You do realize that Mou won the UCL with Porto and Internazionale, right?

*blocks their paths *

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Klopp has hardly spent anything for his time, his bought and sold, pep just bought

For me, it's agent 47

>takes 25 years in charge of the best team in England, with refball and loads of money, to win 2 CLs

what debate? klopp sucks, Mou and Pep are trophy machines and they never lost an european final

>the absolute state of Yea Forums

he could have spunked out on a squad and sacrificed the league, and the club would dip in 5 years and he'd be out of there. Few managers can be great long term, much fewer than the snatch and grab galactico managers who roam from one team to another when their squads go stale

Bayern is in 'transition' since pep left. Manure since SAF left. Chelsea and Arsenal are in perma 'transition'. Barca is 'in their best form ever' in january every year and so are PSG and City. The only thing that really happened is the shift from La Liga to EPL dominating europe, because of all the fucking money. This and last years Liverpoop would have been CL title contenders every year if the last decade. And so would have been every CL winner except MAYBE RdM Chelsea.
Poo on loo you fucking reddit pleb.

When was Pep last even near a Champions League final? fucking, when he won it with Bayern?

I really can't tell if this is bait or not. Is that what effective trolling is?

that's the only reason but yet again that still makes them the best in the CL this year, most champions are most of the time the least worst of the rest rather than the best of the rest

Salty frog. Liverpool beat Bayern, Napoli, PSG, and Barca on their route to the final. That's hardly the least worst is it? Three of those teams just won their domestic leagues.

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this

liverpool barely got out of the group stage, legs combined psg would have eliminated liverpool. you just agree with what I say you fool so what's the point of your post?

>muh group stage
Lmao

pep is the trophy god and has consistently cucked mou wherever they’ve crossed paths

klopp is good but has finals ptsd you could tell liverpool were shitting themselves that day and only won because they faced total newbies whose only purpose is to put pressure for other teams to win

zidane is clutch and a big game manager but is garbage in league format

pep is the the man if you want to fill your cabinet

>Klopp (turned two mediocre teams into european giants)
his former assistant did
let's see what will happen now that he's without him
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Željko_Buvač
>Current Liverpool manager Jürgen Klopp labelled Buvač as "the brain" in his coaching team, while describing himself as "the heart"

coming from germany that's funny

>zidane is clutch and a big game manager but is garbage in league format
>garbage in league format

is he? he actually won la liga, last season their best goalscorer was forbidden from playing a shitload of league games at the start of the season, zidane then proceded to only focus on the CL. so far zidane isn't exposed anywhere, but we will see in the coming years now that he is building his own team rather than inheritating the team from someone else

>Klopp has hardly spent anything for his time, his bought and sold, pep just bought

Klopp is lucky that expensive shitters were sold for shit prices the season before he arrived.

And I was comparing him to pep barca where he definitely sold and used less money than Klopp at liverpool.

How so? Real had garbage group stages in the last 2 seasons. Guess where they ended up after the tournaments.

>he left in 2018
>2019
>Liverpool are champions league winners
Cope

I'm talking about the WC 2018 senpai

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Eat shit you degenerate Kraut. Bayern are such boomers that many of them are going to be replaced next season with the retirement of some their top stars.

And hilarious that you call me Reddit while defending Klopp. Rating Klopp is the most reddy thing you can do.

And barca definitely are not in their best form ever during January especially this year where their own fans have been complaining about how shit they have been playing.

>Manure since SAF left

Manure are having one of their worst seasons in decades.

that's the same team except for the goalkeeper

you've been in these sorts of threads choking on Pep's hairy catalonian ballsack for the better part of three days now. Don't you have any fecal honor killings to attend to instead?

>Manure are having one of their worst seasons in decades.
Literally every season since SAF left.
Your brain is on full 'back in the days we had real teams'. Poo in loo you smelly brown cunt.

He has a tendency to drop points here and there both in Liga and group stages. He’s a better manager for knockout games from what i’ve seen. The best manager today is probably Klopp anyway, he has slowly built what he wanted and they look very strong now.

The fuck are you talking about this is probably the first time I am talking about pep specific topic in months?

>this seething chutiya
Have six

>eat shit
Isn't that your job?

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No my job is shitting it in your mouths.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Željko_Buvač
liverpool got saved by refball a LOT of times in the EPL, also mahrez missing his penalty and pickford's brainfart. it will go back to normal this next season

I don't recall our mouths being streets

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>a team with prime Iniesta, Xavi and Messi
yeah, it was really hard for him

to be fair, there is a big risk of shitting on an english lad if you shit in the streets of england

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>Frenchman talking about shitting up streets of European cities

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You'd be surprised.
It must be why they won fuck all during their previous seasons.

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don't worry they're heading north

kek

imagine my surprise when an Indian looks up scat porn online

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>uk flag
>asian

I found here actually by a Brit who was trying to piss off a korean.

The again it's no surprise Brits jerking off a south Asian male humiliation women. You let it happen to your girls very often after all.

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My bad. Should've posted one with middle eastern folk.

The only thing that is worse than your weird scat fetish is your grammar

based and niggers

At least I know proper punctuation.

And you also know reddit spacing really well, too, Pajeet

True but it is the middle eastern men and pakis who are raping thousands of British girls with impunity.
Seems like you tired to be proper with your punctuation this time but still failed in the end.

in da LOO

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this board is built on seethe and delusional denial of quality. dont take it seriously

Career stats
Pep: 571 games; 424 wins - 83 draws - 64 losses
74.2% win rate - 2.37 points per game
Mourinho: 819 games; 528 wins - 164 draws - 127 losses
64.4% win rate - 2.13 points per game

Goals scored
Pep: 1476 in 571 games; 2.58 per game
Jose Mourinho: 1629 in 819 games; 1.98 per game

Goals conceded
Pep: 456 in 571 games; 0.83 per game
Mourinho: 706 in 819 games; 0.86 per game

Record against each other
11 wins for Pep; 5 for Mourinho, 6 draws
37 goals scored by Pep's side; 22 for Mourinho

based

HAAAAAAAAA

Mate, any covered space in France has a fucking degenerate sleeping in it.

Apart from the West Coast and the Alps your country is a fucking disgrace.

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Mourinho literally the greatest manager of all time. No one cared about poop or klopp until they came to England which mou had already dominated. Poop will be forgotten again fleeing to a shit league where he will never win cl again. Klopp was given much more time with a shit liverpool than mou was with a shit united, otherwise he would have both the league and cl

i still don't understand how he could get united to a second place. what a shit team

the slut daughter thing fucked him up

actually kekd

Mou is the best but he is incapable of managing zoomers

Noone cares, Tarik

Klopp is based, shitting on the street not so much

Only the one in the middle has won it with a mediocre team, the other two were stacked

>this

>refballs his way to a other final

Thank God VAR stopped this nonsense.

Oh shut up they would have fired his ass just like ancelotti if he only won one