Who was most unlucky?

Biggest club not to win the champions league in your opinion

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luck is just an excuse for the unprepared

Leeds United, 1975

Since when is Roma a big club?

Most unlucky was Atletico by far. Back to back finals, they control the game, they lose one in ET after conceeding a last minute goal and they lose the other on penalties after missing one of their own during the 90 minutes

I dont understand on what basis you put these 4 teams on the same group

Atletico
...
Valencia
Arsenal
Roma

I'd argue Atletico considering they got painfully close once and had a second shot in recent memory (plus having a few solid mickey mouse cups under their belt)

Atletico Madrid
>conceded the equaliser in the 120th minute and got whipped hard in the replay
>conceded the equaliser in the 93th minute against their archrivals
>lost on penalties against their archrivals

Valencia
>lost by a huge margin in their first CL-final
>lost on penalties in their second final

Roma
>lost on penalties in their home stadium

Arsenal
>keeper got red carded and the winning goal was scored by a player who would leave the club on a free the following summer

Atletico is obviously the most unlucky.

Juventus
>2-7
Benfica
>2-5

> Biggest club not to win it
> Not who's bottled the most finals

If I've missed anyone else down., put your best suggestions

Leeds United

Arsenal weren't unlucky. They never deserved to win a UCL, so the result of 2006 reflects that.

only chad teams can win UCL

Chelsea is the biggest proof of this

Roma are unlucky in the way they have been destroyed in such a short amount of time

Fiorentina

Both Valencia and Atletico were cucked by Real Madrid kek.

Leverkusen. Mainly because a runners-up treble is just END ME tier, I know they've never won their league so they're not that big

Fiorentina, 1957
Eintracht Frankfurt, 1960
Partizan, 1966
Panathinaikos, 1971
Leeds, 1975
Saint-Étienne, 1976
Brugges, 1978
Malmö, 1979

Atletico was as close as you can get, twice. the 13/14 with ramos header in 92:48 out of 93 min. Then losing on penalties in the second final.

>roma lost on penalties in their home stadium
damn i didnt know that. thats pretty fucekd up

arsenal played with 10 men from the start and kept the lead 1-0 until 76th minute

Atletico lost it in the last second twice and got refballed the 3rd time

ive never understood roma, where they a big team before?

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>only 3 league titles
Nah

so its more the fact that its located in rome and therefor its held in higher esteem?

Yeah and they've been doing well in the league post calciopoli, they're still not even close to Juve and the two Milan teams.

roma grande club.
1942 mussolini
1983 andreotti
2001 giubileo.

ma quale grande club, che forum di coglioni

wdhmbt?

>twice
Three times. In 1974 they were winning 1-0 at min. 120, then Schwarzenbeck dabbed on them. They're the only team to have played 3 CL finals and never won one. Atlético's bad luck is legendary.
> 1974: conceded equaliser at 120'
> 2014: conceded equaliser at 92:48
> 2016: lost on penalties - after having missed a penalty during the game

Leeds United

It was a pretty big defeat. Their captain, Agostino Di Bartolomei, committed suicide on the 10th year anniversary of their defeat.

>mussolini
you keep repeating this shit but you don't even know why, because if you did you'd realise that it's not actually true.
>andreotti
Roma would have won way more titles if that was the case
>giubileo
Lazio won th league during the jubilee you absolute retard

I do remember reading during the Calciopoli that the only team that wasn't found to be part of the scandal was Roma. Inter was found to be later involved as well but only Juventus, Milan, Fiorentina, Lazio and Regina penalized for it. To be fair was standard practice for all Italians teams in the league. It's astonishing even then they we're close to winning the league and were competitive enough to challenge in their league. I just find Spalletti not clutch enough to mastermind wins consistently in Champions League football. All his replacements were let downs as well. Ranieri almost won the league but Mou managed to galvanize the team to win the treble.

Basically it can be considered mix of Arsenaland Tottenham (good ammounts of Italy cups won, often in the first 4 spots without winning, capital club, horrific history in european competitions)
Lazio unironically had a better European history and won much more in the last decade

Not as Juve, Inter, Milan. Not even close. But in the 80s and since 2000s Roma has constantly challenged for the title, with gap years where they've been completely shit. It's not a coincidence they're on par on second places with Inter and just under Juventus but with way less titles. For one reason or the other, between chokes and refball, they almost always come up short.
Di Bartolomei had way more problems that just that final. He was depressed, ran out of money and couldn't find a way back in the footballing wolrld.
>won much more in the last decade
2 Coppa Italia and 2 glorified friendlies (that are about as relevant as the winner's cup was when Lazio won it, right before the competition was abolished) are hardly much more.
That said the american ownership has run them into the ground.

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pls explain all

>Di Bartolomei had way more problems
True it's crazy how he did it on the same day. That shit must have haunted him. Wasn't Roma the favorites to win? They were playing some of the best football at the time and they were at home. Must have been a pre Chelsea vs Bayern 2012.

> just

He's has come up with headcanon on why Roma has won its three scudetti
>mussolini
there's this myth, started by Helenio Herrera in 70s right after he was sacked by Roma, that they were helped by Mussolini in 1942. He said Mussolini helped Roma by letting them keep players instead of sending them to military service. Two players out of 7 that were supposed to be in service managed to play some matches. The others didn't play a single one just like everyone else.
During the years other myths were started like the fact that Roma was safe from bombardements, which actually started at the end of 1942, or even that the league was stopped early.
The truth was that Mussolini realised how important football was and during his 20 year rule he tried to stay out of it as much as he could, so that he wouldn't antagonize any fans.
Even when Roma was founded in 1927 by, amongst others, an important member of the fascist party, he accepted Lazio's member card so that they wouldn't complain
>andreotti
Basically the most important man in post WW2 Italy and also a Roma fan. He did help Roma by convincing some players to stay or to come to Roma, but as important as he was, he still didn't stop Juve from refballing its way to the league most of the time.
Andreotti's life seems out of some house of cards spinoff (Italy political landscape in 70s and 80s is some fucked up shit) so he could have literally rigged his way to bring Roma win 10 titles during his prime, had he wanted so.

>jubilee
He's implying Roma was carried to victory thanks to the Great Jubilee (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Jubilee).
Truth is Lazio won during that it was for a few reasons: it was their 100th anniverary, they choked the title the year before and their president literally raised the price of milk to buy players so it was a REALLY strong team and last but not least their fans literally threatened to burn down FIGC offices in Via Allegri had Juve won, which made the upper heads shit their pants so much that they forced Juventus to play their last match in retarded conditions. The jubilee really didn't have much to do with that
Sensi, Roma's president at the time, went all in by buying Batistuta on top of a team that was already pretty strong. It was so fucking good (except the goalkeeper: Antonioli) it was impossible to choke and not for lack of attempts. Sensi had to call fans to the training camp (this was only found out later) to protest against the players to make them wake up and at some point Roma choked a 9 points lead from Juve.

Valencia.