Is the best qb of all time

not even the best Manning of all time

Didn't know best qb of all time means whoever best after Brady

>Best pre-season qb of all time
>Best regular season qb of all time
>Changed the way the position is played
>Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Dallas Clark, Brandon Stokley, Eric Decker owe him their careers
>Clots were a dumpster fire the year he was hurt

Yeah he doesn’t have 6 Super Bowls, but overall he was better. His beat coach was Dungy, a defensive guy.

Only knock against him
>Killed Austin Collie

Best is hard to quantify. I'd agree with Peyton if you value extended production, but personally I like Young for his peak dominance in both passing and running.

Aaron Rodgers for pure arm talent and it’s not really close

4 Owl appearances with 4 different coaches, unquestionably the GOAT

Ed Wyoming

I don't even think people who weren't alive and watching football in the 90's totally appreciate Steve Young. He was an automatic 300 yards and 2-3 touchdowns every week. He was an insanely accurate, super-smart pocket passer who could also break off 50 yard TD runs. It was like Drew Brees' brain in Mike Vick's body.

He gets shafted historically because his career started late and ended early so his cumulative stats aren't great but on a per-game basis he was as good as anybody. 1994 Young was a fucking demigod.

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People keep arguing who is the modern GOAT, based on actual ability not rings.
Peyton? Brees? Brady? Rodgers?

Based on All-Time Greatness.
Individual performance stats only, in the 4 most important categories, here are the results.

Scored on an 11 point reduction system.
#1 Rank gets +10 points.
Anything outside #10 gets no points.

Touchdowns (All-Time)
#1 Peyton +10
#2 Brees +9
#3 Brady +8
#10 Rodgers +1
>pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_td_career.htm

Touchdowns (Single-Season)
#1 Peyton +10
#2 Brady +9
#6 Brees +5
#7 Rodgers +4
>pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_td_single_season.htm

Passing Yards (All-Time)
#1 Brees +10
#2 Peyton +9
#4 Brady +7
#17 Rodgers +0
>pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_career.htm

Passing Yards (Single-Season)
#1 Peyton +10
#2 Brees +9
#3 Brady +8
#44 Rodgers +0
>pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_single_season.htm

TD:INT Ratio (All-Time)
#1 Rodgers +10
#3 Brady +8
#6 Brees +5
#9 Peyton +2
>footballdb.com/leaders/career-passing-tdintratio

TD:INT Ratio (Single-Season)
#1 Brady +10
#4 Rodgers +7
#9 Brees +2
#15 Peyton +0
>footballdb.com/leaders/season-passing-tdintratio

Passer Rating (All-Time)
#1 Rodgers +10
#3 Brees +8
#4 Brady +7
#7 Peyton +4
>pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm

Passer Rating (Single-Season)
#1 Rodgers +10
#2 Peyton +9
#4 Brady +7
#6 Brees +5
>pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_single_season.htm

Let's see the unbiased results. Based on individual performance stats.
No coaches. No rings.

All-Time Stat Rankings:
#1. Brees: 32 Points
#2. Brady: 30 Points
#3. Peyton: 25 Points
#4. Rodgers: 22 Points

Single-Season Stat Rankings:
#1. Brady: 34 Points
#2. Peyton: 29 Points
#3. Brees: 21 Points (tie)
#3. Rodgers: 21 Points (tie)

Overall Performance Stat GOAT:
#1. Brady: 64 Points
#2. Peyton: 54 Points
#3. Brees: 53 Points
#4. Rodgers: 43 Points

It's Brady

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Based

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Also 6>4 Montanafags

he isnt top 10 in any individual performance stat and marino is barely top 10, vick isnt even top 25. mobile quarterbacks have always been a meme.

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Theres never been a qb with high TD output while maintaining high yardage / accuracy and low INT ratio. Brady was #1in INT:TD ratio for nearly 15 years. People don't realize this. People didn't even care until recently Aaron Rodgers and Russel Wilson edged the #1 and #2 spots. Slightly higher efficiency but half as long of careers, and not nearly the output. Rodgers still has never come close to 50 TD's or 5,000 yards in a season. His overall output is weak.

Peyton has insane TD output, Brees has insane yardage output, but both have godawful TD:INT ratio overall. Nobody is good at everything. Except Brady.

Brady is literally a fucking beast. I remember Peyton throwing weak broken spiral passes less than 25 yards when he was younger than Brady is now, meanwhile Brady is still playing and looking like Captain America. Beast.

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>stats
>looks
>rings
>wife

I hate him so fucking much.

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He's top 10 in single-season and #6 in career passer rating

pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_rating_career.htm

And yes, mobile quarterbacks are a meme, but he wasn't a mobile quarterback. He was a pocket passer who could run like a mobile quarterback.

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How many rings?

any/a is probably the best individual performance stat for evaluating QBs. Young is the only player in the top 10 who didn't play this century, and him, Peyton, and Staubach are the only players to lead the league in any/a for 4 seasons.

Eli Manning has a better arm and was more clutch

2 * free rings