How come he didn't win more champions leagues? He seems to be universally regarded as the greatest manager in history by not only normies but Yea Forums too, yet 2 European cups seems too low considering how long he was there
How come he didn't win more champions leagues...
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It's as if refs weren't under his command in CL.
>He seems to be universally regarded as the greatest manager in history by not only normies but Yea Forums too
Only England.
this. he's no aragones
everywhere you dipshit, because he didnt spend billions to win back to back premier leagues. Guardiola would shit himself having to rely on Ji Sun Park and Anderson for CL finals.
>some zoomer who thinks united didn't buy the league every year by buying all the talent in england
gyppo please
Only three managers have ever won it more than twice, and I think we can discount Zidane. Two wins and two runners up ain't bad
because Liverpool fans got English teams banned and they had to catch up from being a decade behind the times
>because he didnt spend billions to win back to back premier leagues
United have the best record in trophies based on what they spent. However, they did spend quite a lot back in the day (relatively).
>Club: Manchester United
>Total Spending: £1,670,000,000
>Net Spend: -£989,700,000
>Trophies: x13 Premier League Titles, x2 Champions League/European Cups, x5 FA Cups, x5 League Cups, x1 Europa League, x11 Community Shields
>greatest manager in history
Excuse me, the current ranking goes as follows
Zidane
Ancelotti
Mourinho
Ferguson
Man Utd were banned from Europe for 5 years because Liverpool fans were savage animals. Also, after that it's not like things returned instantly to normal. English clubs started bottom of the coefficients so it was essentially an 8-9 year ban.
Aside from that there were just better teams over those periods, he had to face the best Barca team ever in two finals. 2 CL titles is a good haul all things considered.
Don't forget Milan were relevant at the time too. And Inter.
The 2 Champions Leagues he won were absolute lucky as fuck with 2 fluke goals in the final minutes int he first one and won on a pk shootout where Terry slipped.
Nobody in England was bothered about the Champions League in the early and mid 90s due to being banned most of the previous decade
he used to bully the refs which was worth 10-12 points in the PL.
he couldn't do it in europe.
>Ancelotti
fergie time didn't work in the cl
People forget how GOAT Fergie was at Aberdeen.
Broke the Old Firm dominance, beat Real Madrid to win the Cup Winners Cup then beat Hamburg in the Super Cup final. Poop could never manage that
There was also a stupid rule regarding foreign players, United had to class Welsh and Scottish players like Giggs as foreigners so they could register all of their main sqaud
>tfw McLean didn't go onto greatness like Ferguson
>fergie time didn't work in the cl
Ummmm what?
>he didnt spend billions
>implying
ancelotti is unarguably the greatest manager of all time
Because English teams were banned from European cups between 85 and 91, even after the ban was lifted the top foriegners would still choose to play in Italy or Spain due to better wages and similar JF lifestyle to whatever favela they came from. Soon came begging to play for our teams when we got rich tho.
Too much of a psycho
Probably still would have if Roma didn't cheat him out of a Champions League
>that flag
>that post
Stick to domestically enslaving Africans and murdering journalists or whatever it is you do for sport over there, Mohammef
Pep and Mou both say Bobby Robson is the best manager of all time.
Frank Rijkaard is the greatest manager of all time.
>no Sacchi
>no Capello
Yeah, I'm sure you watched him manage.
is that paki rage im sensing ?
Fucking retard, don't need to watch him to know he's a GOAT based on achievements. Like saying if you never watched Fergie at Aberdeen (which is true for 90% of posters here) you're not qualified to talk about him
>No Cruyff
Yeah i've never bought that argument. How many of us ever saw Maradona or Cruyff play yet nearly everyone would have them included in a top 5 list. Pele too
he got cockblocked by the goat team of the time
Game theory
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anything that happened before 1990 is irrelevant achievements.
This is basically it, not to mention Man Utd were a mid-table club when he arrived.
Still should've won it in 97, 02 though.
this is the worse excuse I see repeated. dutch football has been irrelevant for years, did ajax just suddenly "catch up".
fergie was a shit manager when it came to foreign opposition who also intimidated the fuck out of premier league refs.
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