/nfl/ general: cringe edition

Dont worry gettleman is working overtime on ways to fuck your franchise for decades.

Interesting article:
>footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2019/2018-adjusted-games-lost-part-i

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Nth for Green Bay winning the super bowl

Why would Flacco say that

>beating the pats in during their extended preseason
Congratulations, the same team that was btfo by the Lions

Is it really possible to fuck a franchise up for a whole decade with just a year or two of fuckups? Even in a worse case scenario of a fuckup you could clean house and get on track within that time

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Killing a QBs confidence yes

>Being a fan of a literally gay QB who only has 1 ring
Lmao

/Bills Owl 2020/
Rodady>>>Brers

>I'm a packers fan

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The only mistake that Gettleman made was paying Odell and letting Collins walk to a division rival. Everything else has been fine.

>Cut Bobby Hart for refusing to play in the season finale
>Drafted Saquon Barkley who has the potential to be a Top 5 player all-time at his position
>Drafted other studs like Will Hernandez, B.J. Hill, and Lorenzo Carter
>Signed Nate Solder who was pretty good the second half of last year
>Cut Ereck Flowers
>Traded Eli Apple, which was a massive score given that he barely avoided getting cut
>Traded Olivier Vernon who was overpaid and disappeared when it mattered
>Traded for Zeitler, instant starter at RG
>Traded for Jabrill Peppers who looked really promising in Cleveland
>Drafted D-Law who's a younger, cheaper version of Snacks
>Actually handled drafting a new quarterback with some delicacy, unlike Reese who was just going to throw Eli out like garbage to save his own worthless ass

>His OC isn't a boomer

literally what are you doing rest of the league

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>Traded for Jabrill Peppers who looked really promising in Cleveland
No he didn't.
t. Browns fan, though getting Zeitler was a good move.

>I’m a packers fan

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Wasn't that because Gregg Williams was misusing him?

Yes. Peppers is good.

Is Jared Goff still elite?

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>Rodady
or
>Brers
Who wins an owl first?

>still

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>DEN: Flacco: I won't be a mentor for Drew Lock
Great leadership and team chemistry there

Based Rice signing the REAL bat area team.

>still

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He didn't do shit for lameme either. He's shit.

>Flacco being a faggot
Big shocker there.

if he did lamar mightve been good

I like his moxie.

Fuck you got mine

Lamar might have at least learned the play book better, learned how to prepare better. But Flacco still thinks he is worth an elite QB contract despite fleecing the Ravens.

>play madden 19
>its shit
>play madden 25
>its shit
>buy madden 12
>the guy sent it via media mail so will take a year to get to me
i just want to play football

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I am 85% sure the Giants will be on Hard Knocks this season and completely derail this team before it even gets off the ground.

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Oh, the giants are gonna get it because:

>Gettlememe
>Daniel Jones
>Eli's last season
>100 year anniversary and they are the only original franchise besides detroit that's elligable

Mara is surely fighting it tooth and nail and thats why there's been no announcement

Maybe the most punchable face in football

what player would have thrived in this era that didn't before

Based black anime/NFL fan.

Any smaller than average RB with good hands.

say something nice about future niggles starting qb cody kessler

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No offense but this is the right move. You never help prepare your replacement to take your job especially if you feel like you have some left in the tank. Look at Romo, he was far too helpful to Dak and it cucked him out of a job. The Favre/Flacco attitude might seem dickhead-ish but its every man for himself out there. You could also argue Favre being cold towards Rodgers made him better.

I used to like Gayfield but his victim complex has gotten way too big and the Browns fanbase has reached peak annoyance levels. Definitely hope they don't make the playoffs next year.

Then you don't feel confident the job is yours. You don't believe in team and having the best man up if you go down. Romo was cucked out of the job because he couldn't stay healthy. And the best ability is availability. Flacco doesn't feel confident because he knows he either wins now or he's out of the NFL as a starter. His pride is hurt.

Play Madden 08, ESPN NFL 2K5, 2K4, Tecmo Super Bowl, Blitz: The League 1&2, or Nvaa 14

man I can see why the browns and bears wanted the vaunted packers DBs

browns havent even started. theyll start 3-0 and be anointed superbowl champions then start calling for kitchens to be executed when they drop back to .500

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He saw mahomes throw and realize what a real qb actually is

And he conned the chorfs out of easy money!

>the state of FSU QBs

Dwayne Haskins future

Not until his entertainment company is run in to the ground blowing all his money and he's broke 9 months later trying to get back on a team.

Brutal

end of an era

>people actually thought Flacco wouldnt be a huge cunt about Lock
lol

this is a nice bird

you would think for a team that has an unbelievable history of failure, fans would be cautious

>play NCAA 14 Dynasty Mode
>use Lincoln Riley (OC at ECU)
>sim recruiting and get ECU to a double digit win season
>win bowl
>take HC job at some shitty university
>dab on the rest of the college teams with manlet QBs who throw for 6k yards in the Air Raid system with 70% pass tendency
What do you guys like to do on NCAA 14 (or any other football game)?

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for me, it's brers

Imagine being retarded enough to actually believe that veteran QBs go out of their way to mentor rookie QBs. Unless that’s specifically the reason why they are being paid, why would they bother?

Are you autistic?

still 1 more ring than a majority of nfl teams have won over the last 10 years

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>10 years
What an amazing sample size you little dick bitch.

And this is how retarded Eagles fans are. Good luck with Bubble Boy.

>Drafted D-Law
What did he mean by this

Reminder

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Dexter Lawrence, who is nowhere near as good as Snacks.

>the giants traded OBJ for a subpar replacement for Snacks Harrison who they also traded
i will enjoy seeing their next 5 years of 4-12 and below

Smith helped Kaep out and had a Superbowl ring snatched from his fingers. Smith helped mahomes out and got one of the nicest contracts in the NFL fully garuanted, a huge metal cast, and after mahomes mvp season a coaching job anywhere he'd like.

Still tho having to lose your leg to the Redskins sucks.

And the raiders last year

Depends on the qb. I'd say Smith has done a good job mentoring but Smiths a good boi

>your team
>biggest addition this offseason (trade, FA, or draft)
>biggest loss this offseason
>is the roster better than it was at the end of last year?
>are they contenders this year? (be honest)

Eagles
Malik Jackson
Michael Bennett
Yes
Yes

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No waifu no laifu

not an eagles fan, but even if you say 20 years the list of super bowl winners doesn't grow that much - in the NFC east the Cowboys and Redskins are still at 0, and the Pats Giants and Steelers make up most of that extra 10

>be gnats fan
>hear talk in the thread of the possibility of being the hard knocks team
Holy shit I would love to see one of these things for the gnats. They’re so interesting. The focus players would definitely include Sterling Shepard, some kind of Manning V Jones segment. Something in Barkley. Who else would get a moment in the spotlight here?

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I really do not care

>cancerous tripcuckold loser talking about t shirts made for a coach with cancer
Die

Where’s the Seahawks portion?

what do u expect from a soulless faggot?

Why not just act like you’re friends and you’re helping but really just give shitty advice?

T.bh would you really want to be "mentored" by le throw it up and hope for PI man?

Lock doesn’t play for the Packers

i’d want to be mentored on how to suck for your whole career except in very short amounts which are just enough to get you stupidly large money at which point you go back to sucking

Better strategy, never even have those elite moments and just keep signing big-ass contracts off your "potential"

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>pull out bullshit playoff wins that your retarded supporters can use to defend you when you spend years being ranked as the worst starting qb
flaccid flacco is too IQ to be a starting qb, almost as high as fitzmagic

I hope you are all trolling your team's sbnation fansite.

The comments are filled with the most cunty and insufferable boomers that don't know shit. The moderatio. Is so strict that they all resort to really faggy and catty backhand jabs but they will try to flag you for coming back at them in kind, or even just disagreeing.

I love my dad and sometimes I am tempted to go easy on boomers but these gay forums put me right back into a laser-eyed focus on day of the pillow.

>I hope you are all trolling your team's sbnation fansite.
I'm not I'm busy doing things that actually bring me joy or improve my life

Like posting on Yea Forums

like posting anonymously on an nfl thread 4 months removed from any games for news?

>press x to doubt

this I only come here sometimes out of boredom after the draft, this is the worst part of the offseason

>Jon Ryan signs with Saskatchewan Roughriders
miss that guy

Get a life

DAILY REMINDER THAT WE WERE GOING ALL THE WAY BEFORE THE LEAGUE FOLDED SPECIFICALLY TO STOP US

SHOT
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The Browns showed up in the playoffs one to lose and score 69 combined points with their opponent

We should kick those kids' ass for disrespecting GOAT like that and putting that chocking gay taco cheesehead's idol

Posting on Yea Forums to just update occasionally and talk about a sport I like is fun. Going to a website filled with people you deemed by your own words insufferable, strict, and faggy to the point where they put you into a laser-eyed focus is not fun.

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The Raiders will win the AFCW
Ferrell will be DROY
Jacobs will be runner up OROY behind Murray
Carr will be a top 5 QB with MVP whispers
Brown will have a career year
The Raiders will have a top 5 offense, 15-20ish range defense but not below 20

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nice

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One of those things will happen

Just want to give notice, incase anyone forgot.

The Ravens are going to be irrelevant in 2019. They are not making the playoffs. They will finish dead last in their division behind even the Bungles.

The Packers will finish second in their division, barely breaking .500. They will not make the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers will never have another good season or win another ring.

The Saints aren't making the playoffs either. Brees fell off a cliff at the end of the year and everyone knows it. He's not going to have a good run in 2019. 2018 was his last chance, and he blew it.

The Chiefs are going to struggle more than expected as Mahomes' style will be picked apart. The Patriots already showed some of his weaknesses in the AFC Championship, and with several stars exiting the team they're going to struggle tremendously. The Chiefs will make the playoffs as a wild card(with the Chargers winning the division), and lose their first game.

All of this is undeniably true. Feel free to screenshot the truth.

Good, I wouldn't want Lock learning from that fag either.

the bills traded up to get this bum.

>and everyone knows it.
Why is this the catchphrase of anyone who wants to make a point but has no support nearby. Brees barely missed 4K yards because he was tightening up his efficiency this season in order to throw for 6x more touchdowns than interceptions and the highest passer rating of his career

In this post: opposite day

>Brown will have a career year
Even this one is wrong, unless by "career year", you mean they finish with a winning record. Which they will. Barely. I project 9-7 or 10-6. If they make the playoffs, it's one and done.

pack
amos or zsmith, cant decide
I'm going to really miss cobb and matthews, but they rarely played so was it really a loss?
yes by virtue of filling holes at least
probably not but they could win a playoff game if everything goes right

youre too focused on narratives that sound good instead of plausible

Your reading comprehension is shit.

>Brees fell off a cliff at the end of the year and everyone knows it
>Brees fell off a cliff at the end of the year
>at the end of the year

Nothing listed there is implausible. They will all happen in 2019.

>7-10 days
>A year

Little bit of an exaggeration

It's gotta be either the Giants or Raiders at this point. The Lions aren't quite as terrible as them and aren't really that interesting. The Redskins are boring beyond belief and there's no real drama or stars there to bring in ratings.

Has to be Raiders or Gnats at this point.

I agree with all of this except I think the Packers will grab a wild card spot.

>Even this one is wrong, unless by "career year", you mean they finish with a winning record. Which they will. Barely. I project 9-7 or 10-6. If they make the playoffs, it's one and done.
Not him but who the fuck do you think you are when you're making posts like this? Do you have assburgers?

>that greentext format
mad
Anyways, I wrote it regarding the whole year because tripping across a finish line is a shitty way to project someones future. Also at the last quarter of the year he did decent, won 3 of 4 iirc, threw ok in the divisional and got screwed out of a superbowl because of a no-call against one of the most ridiculous pass rushes that year.

If you're ready to say that this is basis enough to not make the playoffs this year, because he went from phenomenal to decent or okay, then not sure what to tell you

Are you really this dumb?

Is this literally your first post on this website?

> Le tape meme

Mahomes won’t throw 50 tds again but I really thought we were past arguments like this.

Sad

>that greentext format
>mad
You're a retarded newfag. It's an old as dirt way of highlighting to a retard who can't read something of importance that they missed.

>Anyways, I wrote it regarding the whole year because tripping across a finish line is a shitty way to project someones future.
Nobody cares faggot. I didn't say "Drew Brees had a terrible year", I said he played like shit near the end of the year, which he undeniably did. So getting all assmad about me saying everyone knows it and then taking my original statement out of context just makes you a retard.

He went from phenomenal in his first 10 games to average to bad in the latter end of the year. People have already analyzed the games and stats and noticed his decline, it's not something I need to go over again just because some retarded Saints fan wants to ignore the obvious.

Hey there Nostradamus

Alright some of you heretics and degenerates are so far gone its too late. For the rest of you there is victory to be had in the Lord. Who would like to join me in prayer?

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Cringe

It was a meme when there was no actual tape on him. It's a different story when a team dismantles your offense and holds you to 0 points in a half despite how explosive they were all year. Mahomes doesn't have Hill or Hunt to rely on anymore. The Chiefs offense is not going to be anywhere close to what it was in 2018, and their defense will remain about the same. There's just nearly no chance that the Chiefs are as good as they were in 2018. I expect them to finish 10-6 or something similar. Maybe even 9-7 or 8-8 if their defense is especially shitty.

Is old bay an actual christfag or an ironic christfag?

>It's old as shit
Yeah, but you use it without stating the reading comprehension thing at the top because its implied by the format. The fact that you had to state it and then do that shows mad.

Also, not playing as well as he started off the year doesn't mean bad, it means not playing as well as he started. 3-1 in the final quarter of the season, meh in the divisional, meh against a great pass rush and defense is not falling off a cliff.

This is not reason enough to be able to definitively say that they will not make the playoffs next year. I'm not saying that the aints will, but I'm saying that you are really exaggerating this cliff thing

>not thinking that drew brees fell off a cliff so high that they wont make the playoffs makes me a saints fan
Wew lad

He is an actual autist

Considering I predicted the Browns' record perfectly last year immediately after the Jets-Browns game where Mayfield debuted, no. I have a general feel for the Browns' strength relative to the rest of the league. Casual fags are just overly impressed with big names moving around and think someone like OBJ is some kind of automatic playoff presence when combined with an excellent rookie like Mayfield. That's not how football works.

He's just a terrible person

So you are really this dumb? Go back and read the original post you replied to again.

My dogs support the Detroit Lions.

Poor bastards.

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Either way, still wrong. Brown hasn't been himself for a while now. Browns will not have a career year and neither will Antonio Brown.

Rip Pancho Billa
/Bills Owl 2020/

>check the lions sb nation for the first time since early October
>poll for current power ranking
>37% believes they are the 11th-15th best team in the league

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Real Browns fans aren't the ones predicting a superbowl, those are all bandwagoners. If you've been a fan for more than a year you would know they've been in similar situations before and something always goes wrong

This.

>Real Browns fans

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Except that team had the greatest headcoach who is also defensively minded, with the GOAT QB under center on their offense. Anyone else would have gotten thoroughly blown the fuck out

The Browns have the realest fans in the league. There is literally no reason to support that failure of a franchise other than sheer loyalty.

t. Iggles Fan

They'll probably do pretty good this year, anyways. Like it seems almost impossible that they'll wind up with less than 6 wins. Anything 6-10 or under would really be a failure considering they went 7-8-1 last year and that was without a good kicker, without their superior QB starting the season, which would have left them 9-7 at least.

Combine that with the fact that they have one of the easier schedules in 2019 whereas in 2018 they had one of the toughest, 6-10 seems like the worst possible outcome realistically speaking.

>Browns
>Either Vernon or Richardson
>Peppers
>Significantly Better
>Wont know till week 3

The problem is that you'll have bandwagoners who wanna be part of the whole "I SAT THROUGH 1-31" train. Shame, the true browns fans who sat through the qb carousel are very respectable.

It was also like -20° windchill with snow

Didn't stop Mahomes from pounding the Colts into the ground.

You're delusional if you think the Browns have picked a sizable number of bandwagoners after a flash in the pan 7-9 season. Those "bandwagoners" are probably just people who reasonably decided to abandon the NFL after watching their dogshit franchise fail for decades, and are finally coming back. Watching a team go 1-31 doesn't make you a better fan, it just means you were dumb enough to waste 4 hours of your life every Sunday.

Saints will make playoffs, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they don't take the division.

>15th best
Eh, that's reasonable, they belong right in the middle of the league

>Odd Numbered year

Yea it's possible that the Punters will get their together

>Loins
>Interested to see Trey Flowers work, and hopefully we have cb figured out so Slay has some help
>Glover Quin, he was losing his edge though
>it's the Lions, they're going to fall apart regardless of the talent
>Doubt it, would need the NFCN to fall apart(which has been known to happen) and tons of meme magic

>Colts are the same level as the patriots
colts are dome babbies too

>You're delusional if you think the Browns have picked a sizable number of bandwagoners after a flash in the pan 7-9 season.
Yeah, but you have at least some ground on going 7-9 from 1-31 and then right after that picking up one of the most electrifying wide receivers in the NFL as well a good pass rusher that put up limited stats due to being double teamed every game.
In one season plus off season, they went from being as low as you could get to being immediately sub-average, then they pick up exciting players.

And rooting for your team during a loss is not a wasted 4 hours of your life. It's disappointing sure, and there are many people who watched the browns be shit for a while coming back. I'm talking about the cowboy-fan-in-NY tier bandwagoning for the browns thats happening. My friend who still is in uni just changed his phone wallpaper to a photoshopped obj in browns jersey next to landry and mayfield.

If you disagree with me but get it, that's fine, but saying that "thinking the browns are getting bandwagoners right now is delusional" isn't the best claim.

Its not the 7-8-1 season that brought the bandwagoners, its the national media attention and expectations that have been around the browns since hard knocks. Also, if you can't see why sticking with your team after not only 1-31 seasons but over a decade of heartbreak and disappointment shows a loyal and passionate fanbase you're either an idiot or a Pat's fan

God damn. Raiders fans don't learn.

What a fuckin idiot.

>the browns didn't pick up any bandwagoners, if you think they did you're delusional
>the team that made one of the biggest improvements if not the biggest from 2017-2018, then picking up beckham didn't get any bandwagoners

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>brown
>browns
user, I...

>and tons of meme magic
That year they had 8 comeback wins was fucking hilarious. One of the most entertaining seasons of football ever.

Oldbay and the Eagles Roach are the worst tripfags out there.

I have a question since I'm a younger NFL fan and I haven't seen anything pre-2010. I always hear people talk about how much rougher and harder the league was in the old days, but in what clear ways was the league actually more rough? What rules were changed in the last 20-30 years that has increased offense, not allowed players to hit as hard, or made the league "softer"?

I don't mean in a mentality way, but an actual rules way. Any NFL historians or really knowledgeable people around that know the history of those changes? Were they sensible rule changes or pointless?

This. I think the Saints barely make the playoffs, but I have a feeling the Panthers will rebound and win the division this year. They're volatile as fuck.

>tripfags
All tripfags are pretty shit to be honest, regardless of what they have to say

oh wow he missed an s lmao!!!

After the Patriots blew the Payton Manning colts out in the AFC championship due to asante Samuel and ty law manhandling their receivers the colts owner and management lobbied the NFL for rule changes regarding the level of physicality a defender could use against a receiver.

old gay is in a class by himself as far as shitty tripfags go. not only is he retarded, he never posts anything interesting whenever he gets btfo, he starts samefagging with his trip off to back up his opinion. hes a complete faggot and makes this threads significantly worse. but what else can you expect from a mincing pedophile that loves the ravens.

>younger
How old, just curious?

>what clear ways
They really toughened down on the implementation of existing "roughing the passer or defenseless receiver rules" and they added some new rules which I specifically don't know that make it extremely hard to hit a quarterback to high or too low, etc...

Just last year, Brady was tapped on the shoulder i the championship game and it was called a pass interference. The NFL 30 years ago would have been appalled at that call. I mean, the NFL was pretty annoyed at that today, but the fact that a penalty like that was called speaks volumes.
youtube.com/watch?v=8SRk1XkFkhU

Basically, they doubled down on enforcement of existing rules, added some new ones.

Interesting. What changes were made to how a defender can interact with a receiver? Is it a rulebook change or did referees just start calling penalties more freely for contact?

>How old, just curious?
23. I started watching casually when I was around 15 though. So I don't have the same knowledge of older league stuff.

Bill's superfan Pancho Billa died from cancer without ever seeing his team win an owl. Press F to show respect

F

Someone else must take up the mantle and the mask out of respect.

how can you say it's a meme when he went up against a team TWICE in the same season, had his most important game at home, got beat both times

hard mode: don't blame your defense

he took sacks he shouldn't have taken, threw two interceptions and scored no points in an entire half of football in the most important game of his career because a coach wisely doubled his best receiver and put his best CB on his 2nd receiver

After a respectful amount of time that would be nice

Are you an aspie? Just curious

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

Mel Blount rule:[258] Officially known as illegal contact downfield, defensive backs can only make contact with receivers within five yards of the line of scrimmage. Enacted in its current form in 1978. While playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers, defensive back Blount frequently used physical play against receivers he was covering.

the Mel Blount rule was by far the most significant rule change but like the other guy said it was reinforced in 2004 and after the seahawks won Illegal contact was enforced more heavily.

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based

Friend, do you have the image of the bear with the closed mouth. If you could post it I would appreciate it very much!

no way, dem boats were going to have an incredible comeback story. The team rallies on the @Orlando away game and wins with an unlikely Bercovici dragon in the last two minutes, then Nelson comes back the next week and leads the team to a perfect record for the remaining season and the Fleet sails away with the Champion Ship

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10,000% based and boatpilled

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>Zero (0) away wins

oh look another dumb boat hating degenerate seething in the light of da boats. we were going all the way yall were lucky the aaf had to shut down because they knew the upheaval and mass sucides in the other 7 team cities with the glorious boat victory would be too much to bear

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>day of the pillow
kek. It's like that all over social media though. Which is why I don't teach any of my family how to use it at all.

they dont have the 15th best roster, they dont have the 15th best coach, they barely have the 15th best qb. what exactly do they have?

t. bitchknees

>yfw da texans win da afc champions hip

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I don't think this tight-wearing, man-grabbing, semen-slurping sport is for me lads.

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He’s got kids. Rip Hombre

AFCN predictions
>Browns
Something will have to go very wrong for them to not improve from last year now that they dumped Hue, will start Baker the whole year, and improved both their offense and defense. Plus they have a much easier schedule than last year. 7-9 floor, 11-5 ceiling
>Ravens
I predict a slight drop off from last year due to losses on defense and teams adjusting to their running game/lamar. They also have to play a harder schedule than anyone else in the division. 6-10 floor, 10-6 ceiling
>Stoolers
Its difficult to judge how the loss of Brown/Bell will impact them, plus their oline is in a transition. They added some defensive talent though and Ben/Juju are still a real threat. 7-9 floor 11-5 ceiling
>Bengals
They are basically the same team as last year with a better coach and older players. 3-13 floor, 7-9 ceiling

t. browns fan so I'm probably a little biased

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F

Brady will get traded to the Texans and win his 7th in Houston. Screencap this.

>There are Josh Allen doubters in this thread right now

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I think most people believe he'll be a terrific pass rusher

F
One day buffalo will avenge punished pancho

Turkbro is chill, I don't know why you would hate him

In a general where one autist has 10 different brady related trips and shitters like cuccme, I don't think so

I want Smith to come back and be the OC for the rest of Mahomes's career

based

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And both times he scored 31 points in a single half. The games were decided by the defense not making stops when it mattered in the final seconds. The issue in both games was 1. Mahomes saw new coverages that beat him in the first half (but he dismantled them in the second half) and 2. The Chiefs offensive line really isn't that good in pass protection - adjustments to protection can only take an offense so far, and eventually it's up to the line to just block. Mahomes and his ability to scramble bailed them out of so many situations that if Alex Smith was still the qb, I doubt the team finishes above .500

browsns
OBJ
Kevin Zeitler
yep. OBJ, Sheldon Richardson and Vernon will do that
not owl contenders most likely, but the AFCCG is definitely attainable

>Cakes
>All the offensive linemen. Probably 4 new starters.
>Pancho :(
>Absolutely
>No but they should be a wildcard

hope Sheldon works out for you guys. He's a freak but he's such a tease. Never developed into the pass rusher I hoped

kek

interior rusher has been a huge hole for the longest time, I have really high hopes for Richardson
at least you don't have to worry about that position anymore, Quinnen will be fucking offenses up for years to come

Redskins

more like Ha-skins
I'll see myself out

F
Hopefully the cakes can use this as something to rally around.

You got a smirk out of me

This is you, Pittsburgh. The pressure is on you

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yeah...competitive yugioh is more your style. maybe fortnite.

>Be specific.

For you

Still shocked the Giants passed on him for Daniel fucking Jones. What a shitshow organization.

>the Seattle PEDhawks

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No, it's because he's bad. He's basically another Alec Ogletree.

Scumbag coach.
Scumbag team.

>2018 Panthers are the subject of NFL Films' All or Nothing

OH JOY, THE NATIONAL MEDIA IS FINALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO US FOR HAVING ONE OF THE SINGLE WORST COLLAPSES IN NFL HISTORY

I CAN'T WAIT TO RELIVE A SEASON I NEEDED A FUCKING THERAPIST AT THE END OF. AT LEAST WE BEAT THE FUCKING TAINTS AT THE END SINCE IT WAS THE LEAST WE COULD DO FOR RYAN AND PEP AND TD

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You needed a therapist because a sports team you like had a disappointing season?

Jones isn't as bad a pick as everyone makes it out to be, but I still find it odd that the Giants had a potentially elite linebacker fall right into their lap and they effectively said "NOPE, WE HAVEN'T DRAFTED A LB SINCE CARL BANKS IN '84 AND DAMN IT WE'RE KEEPING THINGS THAT WAY!"

for some reason the Panthers @ Browns full game video is always in my recommends on jewtube. No idea why I don't even watch Browns stuff a lot

packers will make the playoffs because we wont ever get to see them on hard knocks

>Had to confront the fact that the defense got old and shitty and guys like TD and Pep weren't the players they used to be
>QB's deep ball was gone and people are still fearful he's never going to be the same again
>Got humiliated on national television
>Had to watch a division rival who shat on us last year and got personal about it get even better and go to the NFCCG
>Defense played a literally perfect game against said rival but all for naught because Cam could barely throw
>Defense was so bad that literal Make-A-Wish kids were having career days against us and the very first play of the Browns game was a designed deep ball because "They can't stop it"
>Popular, successful head coach was the subject of "coaches getting fired" rumors at the end of the year with no viable alternatives suggested by anyone except "muh next McVay"
>Watched Ryan Kalil walk off the field and wave to a practically empty stadium in his final home game and cried because it hit me that it was over and he was never going to win anything

For my level of autism, it was pretty brutal. I barely enjoyed the playoffs because I was so burnt out from the season that the only thing I took any pleasure in was the Saints eating shit at the end (Thank God for Nickell Robey-Coleman)

fair warning my fine slavic american boyfriend
the nigger egos on that team are gonna tear that locker room apart
but then again you also have a really good chance at amazing cohesion with 3 big egos of obj, baker and landry at the expense of the rest of the offense.

but Im almost positive that team is gonna turn on eachother when they are 3-6 and just implode after that.
but I mean there are a lot of paper tigers this year. half the league looks amazing on paper right now.

>Aints
>Jared Cook
>Max Unger
>No, replacing Unger with a rookie and Ingram with Murray with no WR improvement is a bad sign
>No, >our window slammed shut when Brees threw that pick

Another quality general without the stink of bitchknees, lol sooo 18-1hurt

Yes, yes it is as bad a pick as everyone makes it out to be, and possibly even worse

That's "le throw it away and still get PI anyway" man

>Jones man bad
>Haskins man good!

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meant for

It's just a game bro you shouldn't let it get to you on such a deep level

>most environment dependent position for rookies
>most important position
>player put up numbers without nfl players unlike the other first rounders
>havent even seen him play in a preseason yet
yikes

Why are people acting like the Patrishits are so good at aquiring comp picks? Comp pick are older than the Baltimore Ravens and the Ravens have had more than anyone.

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Because your team hasn’t won a playoff game in 5 years.

This level of COPE is simply unhealthy

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otherwise good but

>xecucks
>long history of success

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And the Patrishits haven't gone 5 months without having a legal/ethics scandal. Neither have anything to do with the question originally posed.

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They made you seethe without issue.

Why should I listen to you? You can't evem get dubs.

>evem
So salty you can’t even spell.

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>tfw Twain was completely right about Messi
>but was wrong about Brady

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>most environment dependent position for rookies

thats running backs

>most important position

true

>player put up numbers without nfl players unlike the other first rounders

his numbers were awful, I don't remember any college qb averaging 6.4 yards per attempt and being good.

Lambs suck dick, LA is Raiders clay

Would a skellington make a good fantasy football player?

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okay, this is epic

>with the Chargers winning the division

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>being this desperate for attention
Not a great look

Look at bills

on a scale of jamarcus russell to doug williams in the super bowl, where will dwayne haskins end up

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based.

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Alex Smith

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Jamarcus Russell in the Wild Card

Seahawks
DK Metcalf
Frank Clark
Yes for offense, no for defense
Contenders for losing in the divisional round

If Rodgers was actually right, McCarthy was the issue and the Packers go like 14-2 with an MVP caliber season from Rodgers, how hard is /nfl/ going to have to cope?
will they even be able to?

>le, "run around, throw the ball into the air, and hope for a PI call," man.

imagine unironically being delusional enough to not answer a hard no to the LIONS being superbowl contenders
heartbreaking

yeah but they figured their shit out

>Razorcakes
>Ed Oliver
>Kyle Williams (but Oliver is better anyway)
>so much fucking better
>no, but they have a good chance to make the playoffs

the packers are very middle of the pack as far as being the beneficiary of PI
weird stereotype

Rodgers is past his prime but no team has ever been projected to win 14 games.

Vegas totals top out for teams like New England at 11-12

that wasn't a prediction, can you read?

there will be enough seethe when they win the division at 10-6

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lol dion jordan got suspended for a 3 or forth time

lol get fucked jeff ireland

>Flacco defense force talking about pi

>arguing with literal facts
>N-NO YOU'RE A KID
I'm 23 champ

>23

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Shut the fuck up boomer. We're all sick of your shit.

hi pot, name is keddle.

*kettle, not keddle.

I am just going to stop posting.

What? No, Rodgers is le "hard count free play and if they don't jump run around a bit and throw the ball out of bounds" man

To be honest, Rodgers' slippery bullshit where he runs hurryup and snaps the ball as the other team is making substitutions pisses me off more. Isn't there a gentlemen's agreement not to do that?

Daily reminder that the Ratbirds still haven't recovered from this play.

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Theilen BTFO

not that I am aware of, but if the offense makes a substitution they have to let the defense make them too.

>people still slow to make substitutions against rodgers
>people still jump at rodgers hard counts
the fact that people still do this is embarrassing

Incidentally, Gruden did this too when some Denver WR was getting all uppity, gruden told him to SHUT THE FUCK UP, YouTube it

MORE HELP!!! HE JUST NEEDS MORE HELP!!!

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cute picture.

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>waaahhh he should follow rules that I made up

How the fuck do you get to the "good right now" option on the far left when it doesn't have a branching question? It's connected to "long history of success or recent?" but doesn't mention anything about 'good right now' so your chart is a cluster fuck of failure.

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Bill Cowher would also do this all the time to some WR on the Bengals who would yap at him

>Chokeland Gayders
>haven’t won a playoff game or their division since they got embarrassed by the fucking BUCCANEERS in the superbowl
>had one winning season since realignment and lost to the fucking Texans in the wildcard
>had the worst stadium in the league by far, so bad they’re moving to Vegas
Yeah, i’m thinking you lost the rights to LA.

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Who /pouring one out for Pancho/ here

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>wanting your team to represent the burning favela of LA
Yikes!

LA is the cultural capital of America and the world

Keep telling yourself that, Pedro

>SIX (6) [5+1] RINGS

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He only has five rings

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Are you dense? Post a picture of his sixth ring.

Oh wait, you can’t, because he doesn’t have one

And LA still loves the Raiders, but at least in the last owl appearance , the Raiders managed to actually score more than 3 points

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bitchknees ban evading as usual

I don't see it happening, they'll get wins but they've been figured out

>LA still loves the Raiders
Hi, grew up in LA
no the fuck they don't, LA couldn't give two shits about football

LA fans are pretty...win or fuck off kinda fans I'll give you that, but still they have their established fanbase there, not sure how much there is now with all this losing

>figured out
Maybe if their season was the Patriots 16 times they’d miss the playoffs, but their schedule is full of retard teams that will get bootyblasted.
Also they have Bortles now so Goff’s so-xalled “exposure” is not a concern.

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Well it all really depends on well McVay has adjusted since that loss, and are you saying Bortles is good, or better than Goff??

He can read a defense. The only reason the Rams lost SB53 is because McVay reads the defense for Goff and Belichick countered it by not setting up his defense until the game clock hit 15 seconds when the headset cut off.

If they replayed that game with any other CCG veteran at QB they would’ve bootyblasted the gaytriots, which is what they’re gonna do in the next superbowl

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>Thinking Bortles was the secret to Jacksonville beating New England.
>Not thinking Tom Coughlin was the actual secret.

Oh you...

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i also think that brady hater kiwi and twain are same but are u sure?

...what the fuck are you going on about? It's /hoc/ season, faggo.

Rams are shit because they signed a bunch of flashy free agents and paid a crippled RB top dollar. Now they have no depth and NE's D line ran them over because the entire team is made up of twinks.

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are you fucking high nigger?

Go on, find a picture of him wearing his sixth ring

This shit has to be bait.

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Post a picture of his sixth ring.

You are aware how it all works, right?

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Tom Brady has won six Super Bowls. But he only has five rings. He doesn’t get his sixth ring until they’re done being made.

Retid

>Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr. (born August 3, 1977) is an American football quarterback for the New England Patriots of the National Football League (NFL). Brady has played in nine Super Bowls, and been on the winning team in six of them, the most of any football player ever; due to his numerous accomplishments, records, and accolades, he is considered by many sports analysts to be the greatest quarterback of all time

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Guys how do we know that the NFL really exists?

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hes gofful

Fuck off

Because he still believes that somehow he is the MVP of the league and that all should how to him even though halfway through this year the Broncos are going to do the same thing the Ravens did to him a year ago

>still
When was he ever elite? His entire career was built by McVay and any time the plays are challenged (Bears game) then Goff tries to prove he’s better than he really is and the team suffers

>tfw forgot Ty Law, for a day, was Manning's favorite receiver
I fucking loved that game. Watching Manning in near tears was beautiful.

Reminder

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I think technically it was just enforcement of a rule already in place, but it was about contact after 5 yards from the LOS.

Never was. If the Rams had a real QB they probably would have won the owl last year.

>raiders
>big chest
>osemele
>yes
>no

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Based

>Gurley becomes a ghost in the last two games of the year.

Yeah. It was Goof though.

I really don't wanna see Foles look like a joke. I don't want the Iggles fans to hate us.

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Do you think belitickle still has nightmares over coughlin?

unironically BTFO'd so hard you have to stop replying
bitchknees confirmed

If the Jags defense and coaching staff hadn't prematurely shit their pants in the '17 AFCCG, it would have been them walking into Minneapolis, not the Pats. Coughlin coming back is exactly why the Jags nearly got to the very end.

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Foles autism combined with Coughlin's mastery of autism will net you an owl

shit receivers and meh O-line will have him return to his old self

I've been watching some Haskins camp vids and his mechanics are so bad.

its the offensive coordinator and qb coaches jobs to get the rookie qb ready. flacco doesnt have to do shit for lock. let flacco get ready to play football not babysit that retard

21 could have speared him into another dimension lmao the faggers need to detonate their franchise

Put Haskins at Duke for his whole career and he wouldn't have been drafted. Facts

If you want to know how if Haskins will succeed, just take a look at Buckeye QB history into the NFL.

Any retard off the street can run that Buckeye offense.

wait til you seem him under pressure, he literally turns into spaghetti.

Hes not a starter, that's been proven like 3 times. So get ready for it

Honestly knowing how the media operates I wouldn't be shocked if 95% of the insane rage demonstrated by them post-Jones pick is because they wanted the Giants to draft a black QB. (only one to start a game for the Giants I think was Geno Smith lol)

Don't forget the fact that many of these jewnouralists really wanted the Giants to trade for Rosen and put a jewish QB in the Jewish capital of America. Instead they got the most wholesome and goofy white guy available in the entire draft.

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>Miami
>not capital of American Jewry
Yikes.

Fair but Miami doesn't even exist as far as millenial/gen-x NYC media is concerned. If anything its the place you went for grandma's funeral

Memes and mental gymnastics aside, Daniel Jones is a bad quarterback.

There wasn't a good quarter back drafted. Just stop gaps until next year.

I don't disagree

I am not promising the world but Jones will be a starter for 8 years minimum barring injury and that's all I ask out of a #6 overall

Colts
Justin Houston
Dontrelle Inman
Yes
No

Cam on russha score sam fuckin touchdowns

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Raiders
Antonio Brown
Lynch
I fucking hope so
maybe, not gonna win an owl but we can make the playoffs

Cowboys
>Quinn
>probably Beasley but I think Cobb will be a fine replacement so long as hes healthy
>roster is automatically better by having amari on it for 16 games and Scott linen hands not calling offense. Defense will be improved without the distraction of David Irving and addition of Quinn instead
>people will argue it's just cause its cowboys, but yes

This chart aged like shit and it was even wrong back then

>Bortles
>can read a defense
audibly kek'd

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youtube.com/watch?v=-9_TkoPiLHU

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Is the Colts trading back the dumbest move of the century? They drafted some literal who pass rusher when they could have had Montez Sweat. Dan Snyder straight up dabbed on that pathetic organization. Flyovers never learn

Colts doesn't need anything

theyre just going to keep "rebuilding" until brady retires and go all in then

>getting blown out 33-14 in the playoffs
>”doesn’t need anything”

>The Lovable underdogs who just went 0-16
>Now have Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward, Landry, Beckham, Chubb, Hunt, Njoku, and Greedy
>Charismatic young leader at quarterback took them 5-2 to end the season after firing the worst hc in football history
>Normies won't flock to this

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>Walton gets second chance with hometown Fins
>commits three firearms crimes in the span of three months
doesn’t everybody deserve a seventh chance?

>he never posts anything interesting whenever he gets btfo, he starts samefagging with his trip off to back up his opinion.
While I agree that’s pathetic and that easily makes him the #2 worst tripfag, you know what’s even more sad than samefagging with your trip off? Samefagging under another trip. The worst tripfags in this general are

1. >Me and Brady’s Sixth Ring
2. Old Gay
3. Bucme
4. GetAtan

Nobody else is anywhere near those four

Getashit is the worst, all he does is /pol/bait and post objectively false opinions about his shit team.

>Kraft’s lawyers have gotten that video evidence tossed from his criminal proceedings. They argued—and [County Judge Leonard] Hanser agreed—that cops did not sufficiently minimize surveillance inside the massage rooms, especially of innocent people, which meant the evidence had to be suppressed. Evidence from a subsequent traffic stop of the car in which Kraft was a passenger also was suppressed. Without either of those, there’s already speculation that the charges against Kraft will be dropped.
The exclusionary rule is one of the worst stains on the U.S. justice system.

All tripfags are cancer, rating them is like finding the tastiest turd.

The whole prosecution was a mess.

Fuck dumb State Attorney.

Kraft's Jewish sorcery was far too powerful for the prosecution to ever stand a chance.

I like eating my own turds

>JEST

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well that came out of left field

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gonna ve a juicy Rich Eisen show today since he's a Jets and Knicks fan

great have Adam Gase pick your staff

fucking retards

>adam gase is acting gm

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holy christ thank god

What the fuck
How are the Jets this terrible?

>Gase has already gotten his GM fired

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lmao
>Justs

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This is the worst post I have seen since the draft

Yeah, but has your OB been in Game of Thrones?

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>JEST

The multitrip having autist at #1 does nothing but incessantly /pol/bait and shitposts under several different trips

You'll be competing with the broncucks for 4th place again

but fucking why someone explains the fucking jest to me. I dont even understand the fucking move

All there is to be said is the >jests

Brady's sixth bitchknee is less severely autistic though

And with Gurley doing nothing CJ Anderson stepped up and did just as well. When the Pats dared Goff to beat them he folded. He sucks.

>letting a guy who had one(1) successful season as an oc (where he laid an egg in the owl) lead a coup in your organization
jesus fucking christ, imagine being a knicks/jests fan

Well at least we aren't the Browns

No he isn't lmao. The retard singlehandedly ruins generals regularly

>t. bradysknee
When he samefags and anonposts just as much as old gay, I don't see how you can defend his racist ass

Jest gonna jest

trip up bitchknees

Oh trust me, brady's bitchknee is very autistic. But getashit is debilitatingly autistic. It's amazing that he can survive day to day. It's just tough to remember, because he's been banned for a while.

>racist
lol

They probably have secret meetings in the off-season to try and steer their teams away from each other as much as possible.

The OC completely taking his foot off the gas and Marrone making bad play calls is what fucked up the second half of that game.

probably. the one man in the nfl belichick couldn't mindfuck

You don't know shit about football bongy. How about you fuck off to a Futbol thread.

Put your trip on, if it isn't banned for shitposting on other boards again

8 years without injury?
You do know this is a contact sport, right?

Double trips noted.

They were both Parcells acolytes, along with Sean Payton.

Anderson did nothing "just as well" as Gurley.
Are you fucking retarded?

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Rivers has done that for 13 years and counting, Eli too if you don't count that idiotic benching by McAdoo which wasn't due to injury

>Jones isn't as bad a pick as everyone makes it out to be
But you are wrong. It's a terrible pick.
No one was going to take Jones before the 17th. It was stupid to not take someone else with the 6th with all those options.

Also reminder that Gurley is gonna be fine. Shaquille O Neal had arthritis and he still became a hofer

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if you do not want evidence to be excluded, do not obtain it illegally then.

basketball is not a contact sport.

>Kraft getting everything dropped
BASED AF

Its not a stain. It prevents authorities from doing whatever they want.

Yes it is. Especially for a center.

>getting slightly bumped every now and then is the same as getting tackled over and over by 300-pound would-be felons.

>Adam Gase named as GM

The absolute fucking state of this franchise lmao

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>interim GM

big difference

The cops were just asspained Jets fans.

Shut the fuckup Roach. Post Emma or gtfo. You’re even worse when not posting feet.

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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Hi friend please post the closed-mouth bear so I can save it

>doink
>doink

cant actually confirm he has. was he the guy getting blown up?

not going to celebrate until we get him but Joe Douglass would make me very happy

>cant actually confirm he has.
mashable.com/article/game-of-thrones-aaron-rodgers-cameo/
>was he the guy getting blown up?
Umm, like a million people got blown up.

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imagine being a fan of the Jets.

nothing to lose at this point, everything to gain

fuck you man

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>was arrested in florida.
>not calling them fin fans.

J - U - S - T

JUST JUST JUST

Arthritic knees in the NFL are not the same. Limit shaqs playing time, limit the amount of practice and snaps Gurley can take.

Then you have longer recovery periods, and longer warm-ups. Gurley is on the last legs of his career already. That's concerning.

I'm so fucking excited for n'keal

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>Have the best two offseasons you've had in recent memory.
>Realisitic chance to be better than the Giants for 5 years minimum
>Fire GM at the whim of a new coach who's literally never won anything of value

Do the Jets have a legit mental illness? This goes beyond merely being stupid

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Fuck you, you can't have him

Pats
Harry I guess if he pans out
Gronk
the offense is going to change a lot and IDK about the defense. bout the same I guess
When are they not?

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Hourly reminder

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you can cut/trade bad players
you can fire bad coaches or GMs
but a bad owner will only leave when he wants to or dies

Berry is still unsigned btw, is he finished?

philadelphia e/a/gles

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He's played about 3 games in the last 3 seasons. Did he ever really start?

in 2016 he was still elite, but then injuries completely did him in
someone will give him a one-year deal eventually i think

Are finished without foles

He's been finished for a long time

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was he baited this hard by the pump fake? jesus

Tom Brady is a master baiter

Who trades for Wentz next season?

so fucking BASED German bro!!!

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Nobody. Wentz stays in Philly and delivers above mediocre seasons for six more years.

did gronk literally get PI on every single snap he ever played?

>Patriots have re-signed Jamie Collins

Fucking why? That bumnigger belongs in Cleveland with the rest of the garbage

I feel much better about the Daniel Jones signing than I did previously :-)

>NE signed J.Collins
And the hoodie wins again

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Not every snap. Sometimes they injured him.

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imagine being that much of a fucking monster

>steals Cam's job

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You can't man up Gronk with a cornerback, it'll work 0% of the time

Commandabs were taking it all in a rematch with the apolols and everyone fucking knew it

LOL GASE IS A COACH WITH NO DUTIES

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Why do dumb teams continue to play zone against Brady?

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>above mediocre
Far above

Pretty much

Ehhhh...don't get too carried away friend.

Yeah the Dolphins sure can shit on on the JEST.

In the last two seasons he's literally been as good or better than Brady

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Wow it's almost like the 4th amendment exists for a reason

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Look at the stats, it's objectively true

Imagine being so asspained as a police officer you decide to fully attack someone because their Sport's team routinely embarasses the one you like?

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Like I said, the exclusionary rule is a stain on our justice system. It's unnecessary, and actively harms the search for truth and justice.

haha green gay!

Not today, Satan. Brady wins his rings, Wentz has a copy of the BEWD's.

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Why the fuck is the (((((media)))) pushing a QB controversy on the Panthers so hard?

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What makes you think it was explicitly about fucking with Kraft? They caught him on camera incidentally, they weren't going after him specifically. And he objectively did the crime, the evidence isn't getting thrown out because it's bullshit.

>truth and justice

Moral memery belongs on Yea Forums

Not sure what you're arguing. I didn't say "Wentz has the same or better number of rings as a starting QB as Brady".

Oh, so you know all the facts? You should go to law school, move to Florida, become a Judge, and then maybe someone will give a fuck what you think.

I'm not trying push any moral bullshit, just saying that the exclusionary rule is unnecessary and embarrassing.

Rings are the only stat that matters for a QB

Wentz isn't a leader. Who wants to follow a ginger who can't play 16?

You realize he was caught on camera, right? The footage is being thrown out because they didn't minimize the chance it would record innocent people. That doesn't mean what happened on camera didn't actually happen.

basado

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Apparently all his teammates, who consistently say he is a great leader and teammates, and has clearly demonstrated his talent and ability.

For getting a handy from a friend, who then he gave money to for no reason related to prior activities? If you have evidence to the contrary, send it down to Florida.

i literally filtered someone for the first time. feelsgoodman

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Illegally procured or extracted evidence should not be available to the prosecution. We have these laws for a reason.

Why don't the Jannies spray for Roaches?

dont reply to me faggot, go choke on brady's dick

Hahahaha get fucked, Roach.

It doesn't have to be done the way we do here. Other countries have perfectly good justice systems without excluding evidence. Punish the detective that broke the law, but don't burn truth.

wait, skinsbros on Yea Forums getting frist? are we back?

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New thread, Roaches allowed I gues...

based Turkbro up to kino posting as always

kino is my middle name

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some corners can do it ok
corners are generally too weak but have the size and speed. conpared to linebackers who are generally too slow, or safeties who are too small, there are a few of each that can do it ok

because they dont have the personnel for man coverage and gronk you retard

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because they have nothing better to do in the offseason and because scam is only going to get worse.

except the ability to stay healthy.