At what point does it become widely accepted that he was absolutely not the problem at Man Utd?

wtf you on about fatty?

He is the most negative force in modern football, he gets results by crushing the players and destroying the team spirit. It's normal for the players to rebel.

>cripples the wage structure by giving Sanchez a gorillion pounds per week and never playing him
nothing personnel club

Moyes also wasn't the problem

He was one of the problems. Clearly, there are a bunch of issues at United, but he was one of them too.

what kind of brainlet would blame the goat manager for anything bad

All he wanted was Big Harry Maguire. Everything would have been fine then

if there weren't other problems, Mou wouldn't have become a problem, which is was, but only after foreseeing how things were going to go

At what point will brainlets accept that Mou is always the problem because he is a fucking fraud that is still living off what he did at Porto and the last time he did something right was at Inter?

Should be. Mou did nothing wrong.

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He expects players to play as a team and listen to his instructions. Players who buy into his system usually love him, the problem is he has managed big clubs who buy players who don't want to track back or put in the extra work. They just want to stroll around the pitch and be lazy af.

It worked at Porto because the club was smaller and didn't have the egos. It worked at Inter because in Italy they're used to play a defensive brand of football. It didn't work at Chelsea when Roman bought players like Shevchenko and an aging Ballack. And it certainly wouldn't work at a club like Madrid or the modern United, where the midfielders and forwards are lazy. It's the same reason why a manager like Klopp or Poch can't succeed at those places, you think the Ronaldos and Neymars of the world want to counterpress?

>living off what he did at Porto

More like living off making Chelsea the team it is

He wanted to clean the lockeroom but United of todays is all about the players. By firing him they admited that

>They gave him all the players he wanted
Where's Perisic?
Where's Maguire?
You seriously think he was the one who bought Dalot who played 0 games in our 1st division?

Woodward is a wanker. Poodab is bigger than the club

He was absolutely a part of the problem you mongs

Ole is a shit manager for United but for completely different reasons

First leg against psg, it was 100% pure luck

Dalot looks promising for the future, Perisic would have been a short term fix. Mourinho is not the answer

Mou sucks and so does Yea Forums

Friendly reminder that
>2nd in the PL and FA cup with ManU > Porto Treble
>2nd in the PL and FA cup with ManU > Inter Treble
>2nd in the PL and FA cup with ManU > 100 points Madrid
>2nd in the PL and FA cup with ManU > Back to back PL winners Chelsea

Looking promising for the future means shit when you need to have results now.

And why is Ole playing 50yo Ashley Young instead of him if he looks so promising? Ole is not the answer, they would have been way better off by keeping Mourinho and letting him fix the lockeroom and taking Woodward out of the club

Which club would be ideal for him to move into right now.

>new manager is failing with the team and club setup Jose built
>BASED JOSE HE DID NOTHING WRONG

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seethe harder about the GOAT

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Mourinho wanted out desu, he expected the board to back him in the summer window but they didn't so he was trying to get himself sacked and leave with his pockets filled with money

What they shouldn't have done is replace Mourinho with some pe teacher who relegated Cardiff, that's straight up disrespectful

Mourinho was never the problem, he's just smart enough to see that he would never get a fair chance at United. The way he engineered his sacking wasn't pleasant however and showed his childish / hot headed side of his personality. SAF and Woodward are the biggest people to blame - SAF just will not fuck off and is a spectre hanging over the club refusing to allow it to move on - the EXACT same thing happened with Dalglish at Liverpool. Woodward is a businessman who likes to play FM in his spare time, buying business assets and meme players (Pogba, Sanchez etc). You really think Mourinho wanted Alexis Sanchez, a player who he did not rate when he was against him at Barca, and actively saw age & fall from form at Arsenal?

United are going to be absolutely fucked unless they totally revamp their internals, and even then they are 4-5 years behind City & Liverpool (Pep & Klopp), 2-3 behind Spurs (Poch) and 1-2 behind Arsenal & Chelsea (Emery & Sarri).

This is what happens in a multicultural society

What the fuck are you talking about? He won the league in 2015. He correctly identified his striker problem with Costa and creative midfielder problem Fabregas and romped to the title.

>brings in a dabbing dressing room virus for 100m
>brings in Lukaku for 76m
>brings in Sanchez on a 500k/w deal
>players demand wages on par with Sanchez
>no money left to afford players who can actually play
>MOU WASN'T THE PROBLEM

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United's best bet for now would be to jump on an obviously unsettled Pochettino and give him total control. Allow him his own DoF and back him with £50-100m per transfer window for the next 4. This would allow United to get back to where Liverpool, City and Spurs are at.

Absolutely none of that was Mourinho and absolutely all of that was Woodward. I seriously doubt Mourinho ever wanted Lukaku (after saying no to him twice when he was a Chelsea player) and it's clear that he didn't want Pogba or Sanchez.

>players are mostly lazy mercenaries
>rightfully call them out
>they play like shit to get him fired
>american posts

>tf
>tp
hmm

He bought those mercenaries

I don't know what good striking options were available for United that year.

No he didn't. Are you so retarded you think managers have complete control over everything at a club?

t. mourinho

based Mou he knew all those other teams would had been pretty suceful without him

several months before he was sacked

He might not have been the problem, but he wasn't the solution either.

Did he actually ever get who he wanted though?

I believe he wanted Bonnuci instead of Lindelof. I read he didn't actually want Alexis but the board didn't want Alexis going to City. What other good striking options were available for him besides Lukaku given Mourinho likes a bulldozer for striker. Ibra was ready to go to MLS.

I can only see him being completely fault for flaming out with his star midfielder who he wanted to buy.

Bonucci and Perisic would have been absolute boomer signings. Mourinho is basically senile now

Both miles better than anything Utd have

better than buying bunch of zoomers who think they're gods and can do anything they want

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Mou last signings:

Bailly -> Always injured
Pogba -> Incosistent as fuck , lockeroom cancer, Destroyed the wage structure
Sanchez -> Barely a footballer anymore, Fucked the wage structure
Lukaku -> Was ok before he turned into a fat bodybuilder

He was part of the problem

>he thinks Mourinho actually wanted Pogba and Sanchez

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Mouyes wanted to sell both Poogba and Martial and wanted CBs

>mentally and physically broke the greatest side of all time and actually won lel liga with the highest point and goal total ever.
>fraud

He got CBs, but they were shit. And then he was trying to get Harry fucking Maguire.

Mourinho was jealous of pogba his most important player and was jealous of the france WC win. Obviously thats going to create tensions and he is responsible for their poor performance in the beginning