Best Supported Leagues

>During the five seasons between 2013/14 and 2017/18, Celtic FC attracted more than a third of spectators having attended Scottish premier division games. This percentage was also over 30% for Hajduk Split in Croatia, Crvena Zvezda in Serbia and NK Maribor in Slovenia. Cerro Porteño (Paraguay) and Persopolis (Iran) were the non-European clubs that contributed most to the attendance figures for their leagues.

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We got some shitty teams with stadiums with

That is also a factor. Average ticket price in the Prem is about £40 I think.

Bundesliga is like £15.

>By taking into account the three most popular clubs by league, the concentration of attendances in certain championships stands out more clearly. Given the number of teams involved, the value measured for the Portuguese top division is particularly impressive. The three teams having drawn the biggest crowds per season accounted for 63.9% of the total number of spectators, as opposed to 36.1% for the fifteen remaining clubs.

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on /bundes/ we have a filipino being a lifelong union berlin fan. i've seen strange stuff i tell you what.

>Conclusion

>The comparative analysis of attendances shows substantial disparities according to league. Germany appears as the footballing country par excellence. Although also very popular, English and Spanish clubs have considerably less spectators than German teams. Outside of Europe, Mexican clubs attract the biggest crowds.

>The study of the changes since 2003 reveals the growing enthusiasm for football in the United States and Canada. Despite the increase in the number of teams participating in the MLS, average attendances have consistently increased to break the 20,000-spectator threshold over the past five years. This limit has also been broken in China, where football’s popularity is henceforth well established too.

Hopefully anyone found that as interesting as me, here's the full report: football-observatory.com/IMG/pdf/mr44en.pdf

Ajax figure is bullshit. Plenty of empty seats at most home games, they just sell 98% of all seats to season ticket holders. They automatically count as 'attending' even when they are not. It's probably closer to 43k.

germans i guess

this, can you imagine the numbers if we were actually good.

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USA- 67,099
Australia- 36,692

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Higher than Iceland? They average just under a thousand.

An average of 19,006 fans.

I appreciate your autism user. Interesting how the one country that shouts the loudest WE DON'T CARE ABOUT SOCCER is the one with the rapid increase in popularity.

Australia's real football code averaged 36k last year, putting us in the top 3.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_AFL_season

Genuinely impressive desu

The MLS did a good job of adding teams in cities that actually care.

england is so low because of your retarded FA shoving up regulations up your clubs asses. why do you think your stadiums are so quiet and still? FA plans making your league middle class friendly.

It also runs concurrently with the NRL which averaged 16k, the A-league which averaged 10k , and the super rugby which is a bit harder to work out but also around 10k en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_NRL_season
shrugbyblog.com/2018/03/17/australia-super-rugby-attendance-2018-stats-and-figures-crowds-for-australian-conference-sr-2018/

theres no top three in Bulgaria lol, its just Levski and CSKA

they haven't won shit in over 10 years, constantly cucked by a shitty turkish village plastic team. Sad!

Read it again user, it's says 3 most popular teams, not top 3

Norwich scouts

It's times like this I wish you'd won the war desu

This is the reason EPL is not gonna be the "best league" until the mercenaries leave. I'd take a league with clubs full of culture, ultras and soul over good football anytime. Defeats dont feel that bad, goals feel like orgasm. Meanwhile customers care to take their selfie and the game is gone forever the moment they leave the stadium

Absolute strength in depth of England

A-League used to be above 15k. Not sure what happened.

>not watching best bundes
ulmer

Raw number of people attending a game means nothing. What about people watching it on TV? Disregard?

Also, per capita. 20000 people attending a football game in Murica is fucking nothing, even more if you take into account that nobody is watching it on TV.

faroe islands want a word, mcnigger

>Pissbane falling off a cliff?
>Shitney gyppos playing in a different ground every week?
>The fact that we're spoiled with the worlds best leagues in two or three other sports and seeing a third rate domestic round ball football comp just isn't interesting to the majority?

Thanks for these, they are interesting

Mexicans and Chinese are like 150cm so they can pack more into smaller places

>people watching it on TV? Disregard?
Yes, both as statistics and as human beings worthy of respect.

Brits might not like it but in terms of attendance Bundesliga is what EPL used to be. Cheap tickets, retards getting wasted and 90% atmosphere - 10% shitty football.

And Liverpool ruined it for everyone in more ways than one.

>got all English clubs banned from Europe
>indirectly killed Wimbledon

From a fan point of view, Germany has it almost 100% right. I support a lower league team so it's not too bad, but the Prem has become a soulless cash vaccuum.

Play it over a winter season, because it's a winter sport and there will be some tv money from over this if it's promoted better.
Get into pro/rel, and let the old nsl clubs with the nutjob ethnic links and everyone else have a chance.
All that's needed is basically run it properly like how it's done where it is already massively successful, and the sport will take care of itself.

pleases me when you see germans and spaniards protesting games moved for TV

it barely happens at all here

AFC Wimbledon is now known and loved around the world, where they were once a grey team nobody really cared about. You could argue, if you want to blame Lelverpel for the demise of FC Wimbledon, they are also the reason AFC Wimledon exists now.

Monday games are usually protested in 1st and 3rd /bundes/.
Only thing accepted is stuff like the Frankfurt-Mainz match got moved from tomorrow to Sunday because of yesterday

>where they were once a grey team nobody really cared about.
>he doesn't remember the Crazy Gang humiliating Liverpool in the 1988 FA Cup final

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>Only thing accepted is stuff like the Frankfurt-Mainz match got moved from tomorrow to Sunday because of yesterday
Only acceptable move.

ok grandpa

Which is also the only thing they were known for. Now they are the face of grassroots football and the anti-corporate greed club.

This is why I like to watch Championship so much. Feels more like what you wish the EPL to be.

>retards getting wasted
very important point. this leads to good stuff like the bayern bosses getting hit by flying beer cups at dortmund this season lmao.

Too many plastics drowning out the genuine fans in the Prem. The 3pm Saturday kickoff was a hard earned right for the working class, now it's gone back to being a toff's game.

me

SO to mah niggahz following based ST PAULI. I mean how can you not like a player like Piet Veerman. The reason why it's always full house.

The actual reason is because they are THE left wing cult club of the world. Also a Pauli fan by the way. Ever been to the unofficial St. Pauli bar in The Hague? They have every match on the big screen there, been there couple of times.

I fucking hate when you get 4 games at 3:00pm on Saturday because the rest are on at stupid times.

>Friday Night Football
>"""SUPER""" Sunday
>Monday Night Football

>no you can't stand up, it's too dangerous!
>no you can't drink beer outside, the cameras might see you and the sponsors won't be happy!
>you know that day off you booked for an away fixture? It's on Monday at 8pm now, enjoy that 500 mile round trip!
>twenty is plenty? Ridiculous! How can you expect us to pay for the champagne in the unused exec boxes if we only charged that?
>why go to games when you can sit at home instead for only £7.99 where you won't be able to cause trouble, bargain!
>we have take the moral highground and now refuse to advertise cigarettes and alcohol, but have you tried gambling? Go on! Gamble! What can go wrong? It's not like you can get addicted or anything
>can't afford £100 to take your kids to the local match? hahahahaha sucks to be you
>watching the footie down the pub? What are you doing outside the house?!! Where's your footie license mr landlord, we're shutting you down!!
>hey kids, I know your parents already bought you this season's £60 shirt, but if they really loved you they'd buy you the NEW £60 shirt that will be replaced in a few months time
>so what if we're making massive profits? we have shareholders to think of you greedy greedy fans!
>grassroots football? Who cares? Here's £50 now fuck off and die.
>without football agents being gifted millions, who else would tell the players they're unhappy? We'll be increasing ticket prices btw

yeah but how good is the TV coverage? so many angles and shit

>lower league team being destroyed by incompetent, reckless or downright spiteful ownership? lol who cares

I don't know if I could enjoy football without having Michael Owen telling me scoring goals is a good tactic.

>we have take the moral highground and now refuse to advertise cigarettes and alcohol, but have you tried gambling? Go on! Gamble! What can go wrong? It's not like you can get addicted or anything
This one is really beyond me. Seeing all those shirt sponsors by 365ChinaBetLingYang etc should indicate that alcohol and cigarettes have just shifted into a different form.

no I agree that for the average fan, the german model is far, far better than ours.

What's to blame for all this?

EPL was basically ruined by its own success. Everyone in the world looked at the EPL for the high level of play and great atmospheres, which drew in tourists and foreign billionaires looking for a plaything. Tickets prices skyrocket, regular fans stay away, atmosphere declines but the talent on the field becomes more expensive and/or better which draws in MORE viewership and more tourists.

But your clubs make 890 gajillion megabucks a day in return while being successful.
Not to defend all that bullshit, but it seems kinda justified when looking at the results

Friday night is a good time for football desu

I'd rather be a top6 European League with soul than the plastic shit we have to put up with now.

Are you sure? EPL is very entertaining to watch from your couch at least. Many other leagues simply are not.

Being able stand up with a beer in your hand and surrounded by passionate locals would make it all worthwhile. Brits love being underdogs, we'd soon get used to our league dropping to French level (still decent).

>competing with afl, nrl and super rugby
KEK no. A-league had to be scheduled in the grim period between where nrl and afl season ends and cricket season begins just so it could dream of getting some attention. Even Cricket Australia doesnt dream of playing cricket during September because they know nothing can compete with AFL. Hell, even the forumla 1 season started a week earlier so the Melbourne GP wouldnt coincide with AFL's opening round.

Crowds and tv ratings keep going down because soccer is a dead and irrelevant sport here while we have our own (better) sports. It's always been a third tier sport here behind the likes of rugby, league, aussie rules, cricket, tennis and formula 1. The only reason the A-League had any form of traction was because Australia fluked some success in 2006.

I wouldn't say fluked, australia had a good team then
and how good was the comeback against japan in the first match

kek so premier league IS Yea Forums: the league after all

We have 5 million people, you have 80 million.

I followed a NSW team when I lived there and whilst it was super comfy, it definitely felt like supporting a minority sport in every way. When I'd ask locals for directions most didn't even know they had a 'soccer' team.

Pretty much. Why do you think it attracts so many foreign plastics? It caters almost exclusively to TV customers and matchgoing fans are considered nothing more than an inconvenience.

>oi mates, drop ol this fookin chatter already will yer, think abowt the chil'ren

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I guess I say fluked because no one here knew anything about our team. It was totally out of the public eye until suddenly we realised we did decently and people thought "gee i wonder what this soccer is all about".

It'd be like if england suddenly started dominating basketball or something and people there started paying attention to the sport to see what that was all about.

Yeah, soccer has no cultural or historic significance to us unlike cricket, rugby and aussie rules. It's near impossible to grow here especially with how fanatical people are over the other sports.

The best thing the A-League can do is play during the gap between September when nrl and afl end and try get back on FTA tv. Being locked behind a paywall hasn't helped at all. Much like how cricket fell out of the public eye in England went it moved to Sky exclusively.

But part of the problem with that is there are no laws saying it has to be on FTA tv here unlike afl, nrl and cricket (again, the cultural thing) so Fox will just pay to have a monopoly over it.

TO BE FAIR the town where the team that ended in 5th place this season plays has less people than seats in the stadium

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I'd rather not even play European Leagues than have some chink boss plastering the shirt with moonrunes and paying Messi a million bucks a day to join the club.

Post Utilization ratesbyou pleb. Germany is full of empty fuck shit forests loke the US is full of empty fuckshit plains. Real estate is so cheap you can build huge stadiums for cheap.

utilization rate will tell us how many of the available seats are filled.
When you do that you realize that shitters like spurs and west ham have big stadiums but can't fill them. Also, you have shitters like city and united who fake their attendance numbers based on tickets sold not on actual attendance

>but can't fill them
That's because true fans can't afford the fucking 90 pounds tickets.

Alright cuckholds, someone answer me why the F are seria zzz stadiums always empty when i watch them? The only exception is JJ

>Also, you have shitters like city and united who fake their attendance numbers based on tickets sold not on actual attendance
They must have learnt this from the NFL

mafia thugs are roaming around the stadiums so normal people are afraid to go

Munich is (I think) the most expensive European city bar Swiss ones. And half the English teams have their stadiums in fucking London, it's not like there aren't any cheaper locations available.

Will Moreirense be playing in the Europa League next season? Local businsses should give everyone the day off on European matchdays to create a decent atmosphere.

its the age old tale of some people making something very good, and everyone else coming in, coattailing and undermining what made it good.

Charge maximum £20 a ticket (a reasonable price) and most grounds would sell out easily.

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I honestly don't understand why more UK clubs don't do this. Ticket sales are a very small part of a club's income anyway. It's all about the commercialism, the 60 pound kits, the digitized ads around the field.

I could write an essay on how badly cricket has been fucked up in this country since it went off FTA telly. it is still well followed of course but part of the reason the 2005 ashes was great is because it was on channel 4 and everyone could watch it. obviously it helped that it was one of the most exciting series ever but the fact that all the ashes series (and all series for that matter) since have been shifted to sky is just so depressing. hell, the recent west indies and sri lanka tours weren't even covered by test match special, it was given to talksport, a commercial station that had ad breaks. such a shame

>when shit clubs in the PL get sponsored by unintelligible chinky sponsor

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>England (2) - 20,181
Based

Because owners of professional clubs in the UK are on the whole not bothered about the fans or the history of the club they're owning.

The extremely cringeworthy Sheffield Wednesday statement celebrating Sheffield United's promotion is the pinnacle of it: swfc.co.uk/news/2019/april/club-statement/

Can you imagine one of the big PL clubs doing something on a similar scale if their biggest rival won a major honour?

Yup, it makes me very sad, man. 2005 was the perfect opportunity to push cricket there and they absolutely blew it. Then they didnt capitalise on t20 either a few years later. The horrendous mismanagement of cricket in England is the only thing worse than how Rugby Australia manages union here.

>swfc.co.uk/news/2019/april/club-statement/
deer lord that is SO tonedeaf. Don't they have like 19 social media experts checking this before going public? They didn't even remove it!

they do the same in the nfl here also. two-thirds of revenue comes from tv rights, which the league splits two-thirds of the paltry by comparison ticket revenue equally with the league which is about 15%. Yet they completely price out and alienate poorshits and its a once a year type of treat to lower-middle/middle income people, and then lots of stadiums have huge swaths of empty seats for a short term razor thin cash grab that has consequences in the future.

The Erdogan club averages around 4k people per game.

>We must also congratulate Norwich City on their promotion and offer our commiserations to Ipswich Town, Bolton Wanderers and Rotherham United. We wish you a speedy return to the Championship.

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How masochistic do you have to be to continue watching HSV games?

>Japan - 21,767
Nani the fuck?!

>then explain what can be done to improve that
kick out plastic clubs like Atromitos, Levadiakos, Xanthi, etc etc. Bring back teams with local support and history like PAS, Panachaiki and Iraklis.

Also, pull a Thatcher and ban Greek teams from UEFA competitions for 10 years, maybe the drug dealing mafiosos in charge of the teams will fuck off and football in greece wont be a pasttime for low life low class scum

In the NFL it makes even less sense since they play so few games, you want to (you would think at least) fill each stadium for every home game.

Football is pretty big there, lots of teams have European copycat ultras. The atmosphere is fake as fuck but still enjoyable. I think they actually sing chants in Portugese and English just to copy Brazil and the UK.

Scum left football in England because they were priced out

It's called being a fan. Fuck HSV but at least they don't abandon their team when shit hits the fan. My team is seconds from relegation and you better believe I will still attend next year.

>Bring back Forest
Based la'

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>all these genuine fans ITT
Gives me hope desu, was beginning to think Yea Forums was a lost cause.

Would somebody please rescue those poor geordies

They have a population of 120 mil. Rugby gets similar crowds and baseball 8s a bit higher even.

Based as fuck.

>football is shite nowadays

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Marinakis the owner of Olympiakos owns Forrest too. One of his tanker was caught with 2 tons of heroine in Athens and 7 witnesses were killed in Morroco and Greece before the trial.

Fit and proper to be sure.

Not a chance. They didn't file some needed papers

Although it would be nice to see all of Moreira de Cónegos on Old Trafford last season