Fixing the Scottish Leagues

Let's be honest, we're struggling with a 42 team system, half the clubs aren't professional anyway.

Scottish Premiership (16 clubs)
>Aberdeen, Ayr Utd, Celtic, Dundee, Dundee Utd, Hamilton, Hearts, Hibernian, Inverness CT, Kilmarnock, Livingston, Motherwell, Rangers, Ross County, St Johnstone, St Mirren

To keep the TV sponsors happy, at the end of the regular 30 game season (winter break) the top 8 enter a straight knockout competition 'Premier Cup'. QF stage would be 1st v 8th, 2nd v 7th, 3rd v 6th and 4th v 5th to keep the top 2 (guess who) apart until the final, to likely add another Old Firm match.

Scottish Championship (16 clubs)
>Airdrieonians, Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Clyde, Dumbarton, Dunfermline, East Fife, Falkirk, Forfar, Greenock Morton, Montrose, Partick Thistle, Peterhead, Raith Rovers, QotS, Stranraer.

The top 2 are automatically promoted to the Premiership, 3rd, 4th and 5th are joined by 14th in the Premiership in a playoff for the last spot.

This is where the Scottish League ends. Below it, the reformed Highland and Lowland feeder Leagues.

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The 10 Scottish League 2 teams are split geographicslly, joined by the current top 7 from both Highland/Lowland Leagues (the 14 teams may be split differently depending on where the SL2 are). To satisfy those with a hardon for B teams, 8 Colt teams will be added to bring the numbers up to 32/2.

This will mean the likes of Celtic B and Rangers B getting regular senior football in the 3rd tier, Colt teams will however be ineligible for promotion. The top placed non-Colt team in the Highland and Lowland Leagues will automatically be promoted into the Championship, with the 2 relegated Champ teams placed in the appropriate league.

There will also be Highland/Lowland League 2, also 16 teams each. Top 2 will be promoted to League 1, with playoffs for a 3rd spot mirroring the Prem/Champ one. Colt teams CAN be relegated to League 2 and promoted back up, but there will be no relegation from League 2. Any new club joining will only be due to dropouts.

This means the new football Pyramid consists of;

>32 pro teams in a two-tier National system
>28 non league teams plus 4 B teams in the two-tier Highland League
>28 non league teams plus 4 B teams in the two-tier Lowlands League
>96 teams total in the Scottish football pyramid

For a country of our size, that's manageable. Everything below that would be unconnected amateur leagues. From a sponsorship point of view, Celtic/Rangers would still play 37 league games (unless they somehow finished outside the top8) with the added bonus of 30 B team fixtures without blocking the progress of smaller teams.

*games would actually drop from 37 to 31-33 but with more variety

>To keep the TV sponsors happy, at the end of the regular 30 game season (winter break) the top 8 enter a straight knockout competition 'Premier Cup'. QF stage would be 1st v 8th, 2nd v 7th, 3rd v 6th and 4th v 5th to keep the top 2 (guess who) apart until the final, to likely add another Old Firm match.
Absolutely retarded idea. What about the bottom half? Their season ends at Christmas?

Including colt teams is also a retarded idea.

This topic was created by an absolutely seething Sevco fan.

Was watching a documentary about the hardest pubs in Britain and when I saw Aberdeen it looked properly bleak

Scottish league should be organized by regional franchises like Super Rugby

Stfm franchises killed rugby clubs fucking american system

Just merge with EPL

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He’s right.

If all Scottish teams joined the English league system then all the big five (rangers, celtic, aberdeen, hearts, hibs) would rise up to league 1 in a few seasons.

They would then probably progress to the championship quickly, where they would have a massive income compared to what they have now. I would bet that celtic would get promoted in their first season in the championship while rangers might take a couple more - the rest of the top five would probably stay there or become yo-yo teams.

Both old firm clubs are extremely marketable and would rake in significantly higher incomes than the likes of Everton and Leicester once they get into the prem.

It would only take them around 5-10 seasons to challenge for top four, and at most 15 seasons to challenge for European silverware again.

Not going to happen though, England doesn't want to deal with the utter shite that comes with Celtic/Rangers.

Why would English clubs want the Scots coming in? All they would do is take money away from English clubs and all the Scots would bring is sectarian shit flinging and acting like the victim 24/7, we already have Liverpool for that behaviour.

Make a British & Irish Superleague. All current teams, with 4 extra spaces in the top division. Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen join this league. Establish new clubs in Dublin, Belfast and Cork.

Yeah it would be a fucking mess desu. Plenty of hooligan firms in England have connections with or sympathies with one of either Rangers or Celtic.

Is there really a need to establish new clubs?

Colt teams ARE a retarded idea, but the money men want it so it's best they're kept in a containment league and not allowed to properly compete.

As for the league ending in December, you missed the whole winter break that would mean the regular season ending around April/May.

No need, just fund existing clubs like Bohemians or Linfield or wherever.

None of the clubs currently in Ireland/NI are of suitable stature or wealth that they could compete in a top league. And the local leagues there will never amount to shit by themselves. Only way they could be integrated is by American franchise style clubs, set up in the three biggest cities with major billionaire backing from the get go.

Also, establishing new clubs avoids the shit flinging that would result if only one club from each city had to be picked. They would suck ass at first and struggle to attract fans but after 10, 20 years a new "Dublin United FC" would be a decently sized club for instance and would be very globally marketable.

It works nice for irish and kiwi rugby

It's all about finding a compromise between what is good for Scottish Football and what the TV Execs and sponsors want (endless Old Firm matches and B teams in the league).

Celtic B v Rangers B would get higher viewing figures than the (new) Scottish Championship, frustrating but a fact that for the sake of progress and bigger sponsorship in the future, we have to let the ugly sisters have their dicks sucked.

I always find it weird Scots are so seething all the time when Northern Irish desendents of Scots are pro union.

>you missed the whole winter break that would mean the regular season ending around April/May.
You never defined how long the break would be for though.

It doesn't matter since no one outside of Scotland would watch it.

>dublin united
Might want to avoid naming them after pre-existing teams, especially considering Ireland is so split down the united/liverpool divide. Although a ‘Cork Rangers FC’ would be funny just to see the shitstorm that would arise from it

You mean celtic fans? Majority of Scots either don’t care or like the fact that Scots in NI are pro union

No I mean Scots are always seething about the UK but the protesents ones in NI are pro UK

Most Scots only seethe about England and their arrogance/delusion (‘muh all english finals’ and shit like that). The only ones who seethe about the union are celtic fans/SNP cucks, and they’re in the minority

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45% voted to leave the UK, that's a huge number, and may be increased with Brexit

>dundee are more popular than dundee united in dundee
Really?

Found that hard to believe. However you should keep in mind that united probably have almost as many fans, if not more than, dundee, but they aren’t included in the map as they aren’t in the SPFL

Fair enough. Yeah at least a couple months since our weather is shite. Clubs could arrange friendlies if their pitches can handle it but otherwise just relax.

The chilean league experimented a few years with a playoffs style championship. It was pretty based, not gonna lie. It allowed some historic mid table teams to win the league a few times, and there were some pretty memorable come-from-behind finals too (U de Chile vs U Catolica, 2011: Catolica won 0-2 the first game and the second one was tied 1-1 but U de Chile ended up winning 1-4 at the last second).

Maybe but in the last general election SNP lost seats and if you add up the Scottish Labour and Scottish Conservative votes the pro-union parties are still winning more votes than independence parties like the SNP. I feel like a lot of Scottish people are starting to get fed up with Nicola Sturgeon trying to push for a new referendum at any opportunity instead of actually running the country.

I mean...I live in USA and even I'm tried of hearing Sturgon shit.

Likewise though 1 in 3 Scots voted for Brexit. That actually is quite a lot.

This is horrible. You need the same thing we do, 10 team league and violently forcing provincials to not bandwagon capital clubs

United is a common suffix mate, Ireland already has teams with it eg Galway United

Never gonna happen

is this the aberdeen - hearts match thread?

Maybe they can slot into the championship second half

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Why not?

No one wants regular away days to Aberdeen, either.

>reduce the number of teams in the Scottish League
THANK YOU! League Two is full of players who would struggle in the English Northern League, would be better from everyone that they drop to regional level.

Genuine question, how much has your league improved since the change and do you get better media coverage as a result?

This, they've been trying everything they can to get rid of Newcastle for the last 30 years entirely because of this problem.