>If approved, they would result in a Champions League that could render national competitions nearly irrelevant, impose significant barriers to entry to teams outside the game’s current elite and deepen the divide between the two dozen richest clubs and the hundreds of others that make up the bulk of the European game. >The biggest clubs, notably those from Spain and Italy, are pushing the proposals the hardest, according to people familiar with the discussions. They argue the changes are needed to provide more fiscal certainty year after year.
>The new tournaments would, starting in 2024, allow the top 21 teams in a 32-team Champions League to qualify automatically for the next season’s event Source: their asses. Americans should stick to hand egg because this kind of fake news is so blatantly wrong that not even the worst tabloids would ever publish it
the author is from london and provides sources in the article. lmao @ u for being profoundly retarded
Joseph Gutierrez
I don't get it
Elijah Watson
Ban teams like City and PSG and you're good
Noah Turner
Just bring back the early 90s format where only the Champion of each league participates... Create another competition called the "Elite League" or some shit and send the others there, that Elite League (Currently Champions League). Then have a third competition which is basically the Europa League for the lowest seeded ones including those that won their domestic cups (in case they didn't qualify).
Joseph Rodriguez
Have only Champions Participate in CL
Then bring back the Cup Winners Cup, for the Domestic Cup winners.
Runners up in the leagues go to the Europa League
Adam Edwards
I'm fine with that too, that format was quite honestly perfect, back then...
Evan Reyes
No need to ban them. They're so small mind that they end up choking anyway - and that's far better to watch.
Jaxson Anderson
but they'll keep pumping money as long as uae and qatar still exist
Robert Campbell
it's been bandied about for ages, Moqorro
Landon Smith
No everything is fine
Only change needed is to merge the Danish, Swedish and Norwegian leagues into one big league
Hudson Hernandez
>Moqorro That fat cunt is never gonna finish the books is he.
Kevin Ortiz
how about we put football on hold for a few years and concentrate on the climate and ecological crisis
Charles Butler
HAHAHAHAHAHA. English teams making up both finals and the rest of Europe throws a fucking little tantrum hissy fit hahaha.
Brandon Brooks
Thats why you keep them, let those fuckers drain their resource quicker
Andrew Anderson
Meh. If this goes ahead i'll simply stop watching it and just follow my team
Angel Bailey
just bring the royal league back
Sebastian Green
>Euros fighting the inevitable
Closed league guarantees the long-term success of the big clubs. It's happening. Accept it and be glad we're still 20 years off from teams doing American-style relocation
Caleb Parker
Why don't they have a league of the best clubs in europe
they play each other and the final 8 with the best record play a two game series , if tied shoot out until they play a final of some sort like a superbowl or whatnot
Jordan Hernandez
agreed, also it seems so fucking obvious that the dutch and belgian leagues should merge
Wyatt Davis
>small clubs like Ajax
what
Nathan Hughes
Neoliberalism in effect
Parker Rodriguez
Would be nice but the advertisers would get tired of seeing city pummel albanian beggars fc so its not gonna happen
Owen Nelson
I really want to see this happen
Evan Wood
please for the love of god no, why in the fuck would i want teams with shit players like current milan playing every season this system sucks
Bentley Sullivan
small leagues need to merge, Serbia and Montenegro, 1 Irish League, and kick out those far east euro-asian countries to the AFC. Armenia, Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Georgia, Kazakhstan.
Eli Lewis
kek
Jacob Lopez
Qatar and UAE could buy the whole EPL and it wouldn't even be a blip on their cash flow statement. But how would you even ban teams like that? Would we ban Chelsea too? Ridiculous.
Cameron Harris
>first year of VAR in CL >spanish clubs get immediately exposed >"reeeeeeeeeeeeee gib reform!!!!!!111111"
Lel.
Thomas Sanders
Gay as fuck suggestion bruh
Leo Gonzalez
In Italy we use it and the pro-juve referee either still pretend to have watched it wrong to give some penalities to Rubentus, or just refuse to control it when they know they are making a pro-juve mistakes. They will be fine as long as they pribe them more than the competition
Jackson Cruz
Cyprus is Greece pham, not Eastern Europe or Asia
Jackson Phillips
Cyprus is half-way between independence and Turkish puppet rule. It’s not Greek except ethnically.
Blake Wright
It's not because of that, it's because the Premier League is self sustainable and will keep growing while no one cares about Série A and La Liga therefore Juventus, Barca, Real etc need this to be able to compete with English teams because otherwise they will just fall behind
English teams don't really need this because their football culture is much different than latino countries however they would make even more money this way so the attraction is still there
This would basically fuck 99% of the football teams in Europe.
Anthony Reyes
>Amerishart wants to make drastic changes and kick out ethnically or geographically European teams (Caucaus mountain regions) out of UEFA. >Doesn't want to remove Israel. Geographically it's in Asia, culturally they're not European either (both main ethnic groups cut off their foreskin).
Samuel Hernandez
Fuck off only JFs say this
Jack Lopez
Lmao what a flop it would be. No one would care to watch it because: 1. it's the same teams year after year with very low rotation rate. 2. Some-most people root for clubs from their countries and even if these don't have a chance it's still entertaining and fun to watch. 3. follows from p.1. very low rotation => no chance of surprising games like this years CL, no chance for underdogs to rise and thus much less interesting and exciting. 4. CL and EL are actually perfect as it is since in involves most people in all of European countries and even the likes of Liechtenstein and Luxembourg stand a chance. And provide fun and memeworthy games.
UEFA will include them purely for monetary reasons.
Brody Adams
You can fuck right off, cunt.
Mason Morgan
>pumping money is only bad if it's from Arabs
James Butler
Wasn't both league talking about merge in a couple of years?
Eli Wright
Fucking die. If they allow a super league without relegation it will destroy this sport just like NFL. Soulless spineless trash. Theres maybe one team in NFL with soul.
Justin Murphy
Already exists mate, better known as the Premier League. Merging with these continental bottlers would be a step down if anything.
Jacob Lewis
But that's exactly what UEFA want to do.
Jackson Jenkins
Champions League should be just that, only the league winner from each nation. Bring back Cup Winners Cup. All the other clubs from CL now and EL play in massive big huge new UEFA CUP tournament. If the CL becomes the Super League it will cause stagnation and a glass ceiling for the clubs which are not participant, it will further exacerbate the current gap, it will turn all of your clubs into farms.
Jackson Martin
What they should do is expand the champions league to 40 teams with 5 per group. Only the top two progress to the 1/8 finals, so nothing would change that way. The third placed teams would go to Europa League while the fourth placed team would go to Europa League 2.
Robert Phillips
Hopefully there'll be another but also filthy kebabs will be responsible, causing a nationwide anti-Islamic sentiment, the streets of Birmingham and Bradford will flow with the blood of the Saracens, that "part and parcel" mayor faggot will be tried, hanged and castrated on live TV. With no Muslims, rape and incest will be at an all-time low. Inspired, other European countries follow suit and genocide them too. Wars and terrorism disappear, scientific advancement at record pace. Reusable energy, irrigation, terraforming Mars. Also, the murder cube in Mecca will be changed as a cistern for pig compost. It's fun to dream.
Sebastian Young
It's not fake news, it's what Jj's chairman and ECA want to force through.
Tyler Walker
>no chance for underdogs to rise That's the whole objective, keep the money among the teams with money instead of accidentally giving some away to teams outside the big 4.
Asher Clark
Packers?
Jeremiah Brown
Obviously. For those who organize it. I was talking about popularity among normal people.
Austin Ross
They don't care about the European locals, only about the money from chinks, arabs and burgers.
Brody Baker
What's the problem with current CL?
Jeremiah Foster
There's no automatic qualification for shit teams with money that think they deserve to be there. Wouldn't want to have to actually finish high in the national league to earn the spot.
Nathaniel Powell
The sad thing is you already have shit like this happening in other sports.
ban all european competition allow the best continental team to compete in the premier league as a guest
Liam Hughes
It started like that Then everybody bitched because Realwinslol
Christian Taylor
Kazakhstan is Asia yes, but Turkey is geographically on both continents. If Israel applied to CAF why do you think they wouldn't be rejected for the similar reasons as why they don't play in AFC? None of this really matters anyway, Australia plays in AFC and competes in Eurovision.
Ian Martin
Finally, some logic in this thread.
Nathaniel Carter
>The westernmost part of Kazakhstan is south-west of the Ural mountain range, and north-west of the Caspian Sea, both accepted boundaries of the Eurasian border. >Thrace is literally on the Balkan fucking peninsula and the European side of the Bosphorous straight is one of Europe's highest-populated metropolitan areas.
>Israel They were not "kicked", teams refused to play (both in club competitions and national team qualifiers), African Arab teams would do the same shit so Israel wouldn't fit in CAF either. But it's dumb how "those countries should be removed because they're not in Europe even though they are". But keep Israel, because intifadas, throwing rocks at JIDF,bombing kebabs that throw rocks at you and circumcision are all apparently European values.
Colton Baker
I thought the cl was opened up to what it is currently as an answer to the potential europe super league. Real won all those years because they were the champion of champions, but compare that to now we see all these clubs in the finals that can't even win their respective domestic leagues. Anyway, the Europa League should be where all the non-champions are playing. It won't revert though because there's too much money being made now in current format, although again it's difficult to compare because the market exposure was not the same in the old days.
Hunter Morales
>HURR DURR WE WANT MORE MONEY BECAUSE WE AREN'T SO GOOD WITH DA MONEY >we can't compete with the english teams in terms of money because they actually spent their money wisely on infrastructure and rebuilding and being fair with the distribution of money because all we ever do is screw over our lesser teams and cheat eachother every day >HURR DURR WE NEED A SUPER LEAGUE NOW BECAUSE FUCK THE REST OF OUR COUNTRY >t. la liga and serie A big teams
Landon Sanchez
imagine paying players bazilions of dollariones, having most money in almost any professional sports ever and still whining about 'fiscal certainty' all those fags should just hang and that shit 'sport' of football ballerinas should be banned
Nicholas Mitchell
>europeans stop watching >brown hordes and americans make up all viewership Based!
Benjamin Gray
But what incentive is there for league associations to promote parity if only one top team get's to compete for the main European trophy?
The EPL is effectively penalised for spreading out its resources more, because atleast for the previous seasons this decade you've had a more balanced but slightly weaker top 6 and 2 of them usually have to miss out on CL (and the resultant money and signing capacity that comes with it). Meanwhile La Liga/Ligue 1 can pool all its resources into one or two super teams that are literally guaranteed CL qualification for free.
Jeremiah Fisher
CL is fine as is. EL's 3rd place teams should go to EL2, joining the RO32 with 20 EL2 teams that qualified from 10 groups of 4.
Actually come to think of it, don't call it EL2, call it Intertoto.
Evan Rogers
>this nigga implyin im jew thats israel and CAFs concern if they do or dont play, kick em out and Armenia, Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Georgia, and Kazakhstan.
Benjamin Mitchell
Sometimes big teams don't qualify and that makes them sad
Hudson Johnson
>>The biggest clubs, notably those from Spain and Italy >English meme team gets to the finals >UEFA goes into a meltdown trying to keep their pet teams at the top lmao get fucked it's the year of the yid
when ww3 will start, Cyprus/Russia will kick the turks out through a pact agreement with Erdocondom
Carson Perry
English teams are becoming good again
Elijah Evans
Why stop there? You'll still be shit anyway. Just merge all the euro leagues into one. Pick, say the 24 better, and make it the Superliga.
But that's pretty much the current CL anyway.
Noah King
Champions to European Cup 2, 3 and 4 to UEFA Cup Make another shitty farmer cup for 5 and 6 Winners Cup same shit as it used to be There, it's perfect now
Matthew Gray
>and even if these don't have a chance it's still entertaining and fun to watch Yep, I also watched CSKA-Real, based
Julian Flores
Ajax is not a small team and their "journey" was not "impossible" as they've won before, what is this yank garbage
Elijah Williams
Only league merger I agree with
Thomas Turner
This is why no one takes you seriously at football
Asher Murphy
UEFA BTFO
Jordan Martinez
>"journey" was not "impossible" as they've won before Yes, back when YOU WERE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE MORE THAN THREE FOREIGN PLAYERS so the teams with money couldn't become the all-star teams of today.
John Anderson
WORLD LEAGUE
Ayden Williams
Is it just me that thinks this could backfire on 90% of them anyways and cuck them out of the perfect income balance they have now?
It would immediately disengage all non Champs league supporters in Europe so tv revenue would reduce from there. They would also lose a shitload of income from their domestic leagues as those TV deals to the worldwide audience would collapse in value overnight.
I don't actually see this as a money spinner in the long run.
Levi Morales
they think they can rely on asian tourist money from here to eternity, if it happens hope they get cucked and bring back the boomer format
Isaac Young
>And provide fun and memeworthy games. The thing is, UEFA doesn't care about that. UEFA is not a non-profit. Football is supposed to make them money.
>This will be a total flop. I hope it won't even happen.
