Champion's League Final

>Champion's League Final
>Both finalists have never been champions this century, nor indeed ever in their league's current format

This needs to be fixed.

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Liverpool won it in 2005 retard

He means domestic champions.

They won the Champion's League in 2005...retard.

What these two said
No he even included an "in their league", Liverpool were champions of the Champions League, as well as FA cup and league cup winners, Spurs won the League Cup too if you want to count that

>being this retarded

Fuck me, mate.

"Their league" clearly means domestic league. Have a word with yourself.

The point is clearly that Champion's League should be for domestic champions, whether you agree with it or not.

FA/League Cup performance doesn't factor into CL allocation, so that point is entirely redundant as well.

This is your brain after centuries of inbreeding

Since CL was enlarged to include non domestic champions in the early 90s its been this way, obviously you wouldn't make much money if only domestic champions played in the competition and this is all about money since its a professional sport

ok but liverpool probably would have won it if city were not owned by a smelly mudslime country

money wins leagues cause you can buy a big squad

A widely-accepted argument and I can see the value in it.

However, wouldn't it be better to make the tournament Champions-only (allow champions from the previous year too if you must boost the numbers).

Then the 2nd/3rd/4th placed teams can all go into the Europa League and make that tournament all the better whilst preserving the integrity of the main tournament.

Bring back the cup-winner's cup while we're at it.

>wouldn't it be better
there would be less money to be made so no

Is that senator chris christie?

A bit less money directly funnelled to the top teams perhaps.

Quality of players/teams is gonna max out regardless of the money they're being paid though, so I'm not buying that argument.

>However, wouldn't it be better to make the tournament Champions-only (allow champions from the previous year too if you must boost the numbers).
I think that would become too complicated, and like I said less money
>Then the 2nd/3rd/4th placed teams can all go into the Europa League and make that tournament all the better whilst preserving the integrity of the main tournament.
I guess they could make Europa League a better more prestigious torunament if they did that but they would have to raise the prize money which leads again to the money problem
>Bring back the cup-winner's cup while we're at it.
That was a redundant competition that never gained popularity

>the power of British education

>it's the muslims fault liverpool choked a big lead

Why the obsession with money? Isn't the game bloated enough with money?

You aren't actually explaining why there would be less money. Nor are you providing any reason as to why less money would make for a poorer competition.

>You aren't actually explaining why there would be less money. Nor are you providing any reason as to why less money would make for a poorer competition.
Less teams, less games, less money, its pretty straight forward

>why the obsession with money
Are you underage? Everything is about money in this world

Brainlet.

Why are you assuming less teams and less games though?
Europe is a big continent with plenty of teams to fill that void - especially if (as previously mentioned) we allow teams who have won in recent previous years.
There's plenty of sleeping giants with big fanbases that would either do well (bonus) or get filtered out early in the competition anyway if they're not of a good enough standard.

Nice and vague that. It's almost like you don't have an argument at all.
The Messi's and Ronaldos of the world are still gonna be as good as they are whether they are earning £500k per week or £300k per week.

So are you going to fill the CL with eastern europe domestic champion clubs while excluding teams from the bigger leagues and expect there won't be a decrease in quality? lmao

Most Kino CL after last year, sublime footie and passion. CL gets better and better.

>needs to be fixed

Spotted the butt hurt Man City fan

It'd be a redistribution of quality. Those 2nd - 4th place teams would be fighting it out in a quality Europa League.

Meanwhile, the true Champions fight it out as it should be. And like I said, the poorer teams would get weeded out early on, so there wouldn't be a massive drop off in quality.

A hell of a lot more interest though in terms of different style match ups and culture clashes.