I can't believe I want him at Barcelona, but enough is enough. You cannot concede 8 goals in eliminations.
I can't believe I want him at Barcelona, but enough is enough. You cannot concede 8 goals in eliminations
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Ah yes, the cancerous toxic influence of Mouyes.
I'm a newfag to this sport, but analysts say Mourinho let his RM side show their attacking side despite being a defensive minded coach. How true is that, and would the same happen with this Barca?
Think he's going to Inter
This man is one of the most entertaining people in sports. I would even watch the spanish shepard's league if he's involved
barça needs a BIG DICK manager. who's available?
only him and conte?
it's fucking finished Barcelona are not winning any international trophy anymore for as long as Messi plays. He was destroyed in Argentina and Barcelona was a safe space to escape those troubles, now nowhere is safe. I honestly think this loss broke him.
They'd never go after either. They want muh Barca DNA
this barça dna bullshit needs to fuckin go. they don't have the players to do so anymore. busquets is fuckin shit already and messi is getting old. vidal doesn't have this dna but still played well today
Twain, I never thought gay you would end up BTFO’ing me and the lads. For months we’ve dismissed you and your predictions, but you’ve turned out to be right. Messi couldn’t do it. And I know I can’t avoid saying this, and it hurts to do so.
But I’m sorry. I’m sorry that I was so wrong
Key of success in Mouyes' team: Washed up experienced players who are desperate for that last big throphy in their dying career.
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He had the best attacking players in the world and in their prime at RM. they were gonna attack regardless and Barcelona likes to hold on to possession anyway
>They want muh Barca DNA
But they employed professional bus parker Valverde for two years? At this point anything goes.
The first 3 minutes watching Barcelona defenders hoofball is all I needed to know that this was going to be Roma #2. Valverde is shit I will take literally any other manager at this point. Even Neville. I don't give a fuck.
Conte’s going to juve. His audio from an interview leaked this week when he thought the microphone was off
Valverde played fot Barcelona and Cryuff once said good shit about him so thats good enough for them
Which hasn't been the case in a decade.
His 2nd stint in Chelsea was stuffed with pre-retirement age players
>it's a yank with a stupid and incorrect opinion
What a surprise.
His Inter side led Serie A in goals back to back seasons. His Porto side were wonderful in attack. He's not a 'defensive' coach so much as a reactive one. He's not ideologically locked onto one style of play that he tries to force down everyone's throat. He is willing to let his side play on the counter against stronger opposition and hes willing to limit his sides attacking ability to try and limit the threat of opposition teams. This 'defensive' philosophy of trying to eliminate other team's threats is one of the biggest reasons he has a great record in big matches. He's also not afraid of using target men and longballs to try and bypass his midfield if he thinks its inferior to opposition - almost no other big team really does that because they are so reliably better in midfield. Muh Tiqui taca meme kinda caught up everybody in it and Mourinho is the only one who doesn't want to imitate pep because he literally is butthurt that he didnt get the job at barca when pep did.
>this flag
>this topic
Check his 14-15 Chelsea's squad
>Terry, Ivanovic, Drogba, Cech
>Inb4 Drogba and Cech coming off bench.
>this tripfag
Porto Mou > Inter Mou
>They want muh Barca DNA
Ironic considering that the “Barca Way” they’re so proud of is nothing more than a direct ripoff of Ajax’s Total Football.
They didn’t even rip it off on their own, Johan Cryuff forced it on them like the chad he is. If not for him they’d still be at Athletic Bilbao tier
Your whole point makes no fucking sense. Claiming this is utter bullshit. Trying to apply it to Chelsea - bullshit. Why do you Yanks even come here?
Whether you consider it a rip-off or not, it has become imbeded within the club's culture, so there's nothing ironic about it at all.
Alright, let's just say I'm wrong with my Chelsea reasoning. You said "past decade". Mouyes' inter trebble winning team was less than 10 years ago. The "washed up" players who were starters in the team: Zanetti, Lucio (free transfer from Bayern), Cambiasso, Chivu, and Motta. They all started in Camp Nou that year.
So nine years ago then. Fucking idiot.
And Eto'o
>Past decade
merriam-webster.com
>9 years
>being this pedantic over one year
Seriously kill yourself, you clueless fucking ape.
This post is utter bullshit.
And he hasn't won the the CL (the cup Barca want) in nine years, will be at least ten though.
Fucking Yanks.
>Eto'o
I was trying to be fair with my "washed up players" point. Otherwise, I would also include Millito, Samuel, and Cesar.
Your point that is complete bollocks you mean?
>I'm sorry for bringing an event that happened 9 years ago when you wanted it in the past 10 years
At least a decade will have passed between Mouyes winning his last CL title and his next.
What do you not understand about this, you abhorrent fat wog?
The last time you could argue your moronic point was in 2010
Pep tiki taka football can only be successful if your team is significantly better than your opponents. Even when you're significantly better than your opponents you can still lose games in cup competitions, that's why guardiola still hasn't won the CL since he left Barca. In short it's a shit tactic that requires tons of investment (to buy the best players)
Mourinho being a genius of course knows that so he always plays the most efficient tactics that are available depending on his team. If he has players that are good at pressing like Inter, he plays that style, he knew United players are shit at pressing so he didn't emphasize pressing much when he was there, he played more counter attacking football to make man utd players seem better than they were.
tldr: he doesn't play tiki taka not because of a grudge but because it's inefficient shit.
Did you ever watch 2004 Porto or was that before your time? Mourinho can play attractive football if he wants, he just cares a lot more about results.
>Which hasn't been the case in a decade.
>It happened 9 years ago
>You fat Yank! GTFO!
Wew
He certainly didn't play attractive football at Porto. They were a fucking awful team to watch. The only team that has played any sort of watchable football under him were Real Madrid and that was more down to the talent than him.
>At least a decade will have passed between Mouyes winning his last CL title and his next.
I notice you've abandoned your initial argument now you realise it's utter nonsense and instead are trying to save face on a point you misunderstood humiliating yourself further.
Try suicide, fat lad. Or at the very least, fuck off to your wog hoop threads.
>Deco and Maniche didn't play attractive football
Yikes dawg
I didn't say my initial argument was 100% correct, kek. That's why I went back 9 years when you asked for 10, Kek
No, Porto didn't at all under Mourinho. You're clearly underage.
>dawg
I'm guessing a paki or a London black.
are you retarded ? he's been saying the same shit for years and he always has been wrong, he finally was right ONE TIME and you think he is right ?
like, how fucking retarded can you be
even a broken clock is right 2 times a day you moron
>I didn't say my initial argument was 100% correct
That what the fuck are you arguing about, you demented nigger?
This desperate damage control is fucking embarrassing.
>Past decade
Pic related 2010
>clearly underage
Cause you're the one making uninformed statements?
>I'm guessing a paki or a London black.
seething slug
>uninformed statements
Yes the thick London nigger who thinks Mou's Porto played attractive football because of Deco and Maniche, the latter who was one of the most graceless and ugliest footballers in the game lmao
I bet you were still in nappies back then.
Imagine getting this upset because you tried to fit in talking about football, got rejected and started squealing about one year on a point you didn't understand.
There's a reason why everyone has disdain for Yanks in football threads.
I WISH
>Talented players enable attacking footie
Tell me how great in offense Dortmund was before Klopp cycled the crap out for the first two years.
>calls people niggers cause they blow him out on Yea Forums
Can't imagine how fragile a personality you are in real life, assuming you even talk to real human beings.
Porto played amazing football and I remember them outplaying Man Utd both times and thinking how awful it was that they'd get eliminated by Fergie until Tim Howard happened. Deco was a coveted playmaker and the attacking duo of Carlos Alberto and Benny Mccarthy was great to witness.
It's pretty clear to everyone here you're an unstable individual who needs to be right at all cost, even when it's obvious you aren't.
>le ebin strawman
Kill yourself.
>Mouyes is great coaching old players
>That's not the case in the past decade! you fat yank!
>14-15 Chelsea had Terry, Ivanovic, Drogba, Cech
>That doesnt make sense you fat yank!
>2010 Inter were stuffed with old players
>That's 9 years ago, you fat yank!
KappaPride
>Strawman rebuttal using a strawman
You're a nigger because you use words like "dawg" and post ignorant shit.
Porto didn't play amazing football at all. It was cancerous, physical, dull but effective like pretty much the football Mou has played everywhere else.
You would know this if you weren't sucking your mum's tits back in those days, you stupid coon.
Calm down redcafe you got Ole at the wheel.
>claims the key to mouyes success is washed up players desperate for that last big trophy in their dying career
>has it pointed out to him this claim is just wrong
>finally admits it's wrong
>tries in vain to save face banging on about a point he didn't get because he doesn't realise it will be at least a decade between mouyes' last and next cl title
Niggers everyone.
>You're a nigger because you use words like "dawg"
Yikes dawg...what a fragile little man you are eh? I bet you have 5 /pol/ tabs open at this time.
They played great football, and the core of that team being Portuguese helped transfer over to the national team in Euro 04 where they went all the way to the final.
You were still a baby at the time so your ignorance can be forgiven, but your insecurities won't. Stop being a loser for everyones sake.
>leaf
Please consider suicide.
>They played great football
I can understand why a violent nigger thinks kicking lumps out of players and playing defensive cancerball might believe this from the YT highlights reels he watches. In reality, there was nothing attractive about them at all.
>your brain on poltism
Get well soon dawg
>your brain being a nigger
>>claims the key to mouyes success is washed up players desperate for that last big trophy in their dying career
2010 Inter: Zanetti, Cambiasso, Lucio, Motta, and Chivu
2015 Chelsea: Terry, Ivanovic, Drogba, Cech
>You are wrong Fat Yank!
Some fat polturd fuming cause someone used the word "dawg" online lol your life is a bigger joke than current Man Utd.
>those are his only successes
>that was key
Fuck me, even for a Yank you're getting desperate now.
And yet you're still a fucking nigger posting clueless shit on Yea Forums
HOWLING
Now say that again without crying
SCREECHING at how livid you are, Jamal. Fuck me, you niggers really are thin-skinned.
Watch him keep squirming
>Never said Mouyes is extremely successful
That's exactly what I'm saying, he can play any style. Playing tiki taka would be trivial for someone like Jose. It's just an ineffective tactic. That's why he doesn't play it.
I also disagree that tiki taka is inherently attractive, there's dull tiki taka as well especially if you have shit players.
>stops direct quoting
Yup, you're absolutely seething here, nignog.
Imagine getting this angry because your shit opinions on football are called out. It's clear you never watched Porto, and trying to validate your opinion by claiming Maniche played attractive football screams clueless. I bet you went into wiki to have a look at their squad and just picked his name out because you recognised it lmao.
Right? Fucking redcafe cucks. Lowest IQ forum on the internet.
>this damage control
Sad and tragic.
>Ole at the wheel
Ce sont les meilleures équipes
Es sind die allerbesten Mannschaften
The main event
Die Meister
Die Besten
Les grandes équipes
The champions
Une grande réunion
Eine grosse sportliche Veranstaltung
The main event
Die Meister
Die Besten
Les grandes équipes
The champions
Ils sont les meilleurs
Sie sind die Besten
These are the champions
Die Meister
Die Besten
Les grandes équipes
The champions
>27 trophies in 18 years
>not extremely successful
Klopp would have 6 in 18 IF he wins the CL
Well if you look at his Porto side and contrast it to the other sides he's managed it's obvious he liked having players who could get him results, that's why he acquired clutch acquisitions like Drogba cause these players would/could do anything to get a result.
Tiki taka isn't unattractive but it became monotonous in the late 00s and early 10's and the only way to beat it was serious bus parking.
>That's his only successes
>Never claims he was extremely successful
>Sad and tragic
Kek
See
>And he hasn't won the the CL (the cup Barca want) in nine years, will be at least ten though.
So? He's won it and the team's he built but didn't win it with made deep runs and both won it with other managers using almost the same players. Mou melting down madrid from using every outside the game tactic to mentally break Pep and that Barca side to win the league is probably his most difficult achievement but it's sad that it destroyed his relationship with the club because Mourinho could have won trophies with that squad for sure. His influence was in that side and he was definitely the reason pep had to go on sabbatical and weaken that Barca side a little prematurely.
I kinda feel sorry for you know. You've been humiliated after trying to make what you thought was a clever observation, but failed. Try again, Tyrone.
>the manager is the problem
how about you focus on getting players that don't disappear in big moments
>players that don't disappear in big moments
Like who?
Obviously he likes players that could get results. The man likes winning above all else. He doesn't play tiki taka because it's not effective.
>starts fuming about a word he dislikes
>on the internet
>on a website famous for using said word
>talks about fragility
lmfao
the goat tsunaldo
Sorry, next time I'll use a trigger warning before using "dawg" so as not to offend you
>I feel sorry for you for calling out an event that occurred 9 years ago
>I said in the past decade
>I feel sorry for him, he must be a Tyrone
Kek
>the goat tsunaldo
>That flag
Americans.....speaking of which how are Juventus going to do tomorrow against Spurs?
Ronaldo scored goals; that's his job
as well as england did in the last world cup
Just fuck off to WSHH.
Make me, dawg
>in the last world cup
How did USA do in the last world cup?
thats irrelevant mohammed
How?
What would happen if Mou tried his mind games bullshit with Messi?
Keep trying, Tyrone lad. These greentext strawmans are proving the point
>ou melting down madrid from using every outside the game tactic to mentally break Pep and that Barca side to win the league is probably his most difficult achievement
Such rubbish.
>He uses greentext.
>Double proving he is a Tyrone
Mou destroying Fergie time and again was his greatest achievement
Again, nignog.
Tyrone, you tried and failed. Never mind, it's not like anyone takes Yanks seriously on here anyway.
Still seething lol
The nigger is back. lmao
If you don't think that's exactly what happened you are nuts. The best side in football history lost the league and a copa del rey final to Mou and his incomplete madrid side that didn't have as much quality almost entirely because he used every possible slimy underhanded tactic he could to unsettle Barca's team including mindgames, media manipulation, putting pressure on referees, mindfucking with pep and playing utterly cynical murderball and even playing aggressive tactics his players wanted and getting slaughtered 0-5 at home so they'd be emasculated and thus more willing to play his cynical murderball in the cup final so they could win by nicking one goal. Mou at madrid was possibly the best version of Mou. Pure managerial influence and mastery of the dark arts of football pushed madrid past a superior side in several competitions and started putting cracks in pep's and barca's foundation.
Gimme another free (you) slaveboy
Mourinho was at his best in his early years at Chelsea
>Mourinho was at his best in his early years at Chelsea
probably not. Probably was every bit as good then as he was at porto and also later but the difference was that his competition was much MUCH less tactically astute. Remember Chelsea were the only 'new money' club at the time so they could buy a lot of good players with less competition AND they were the only side in england playing 4-3-3 against an entire league of 4-4-2 stalwarts who were being tactically outmatched and overrun in midfield most of the time. Arsenal and Manure were both really good teams competitive but it wasn't until SAF hired a portugese assistant manager and completed a conversion to the 4-3-3 himself that he really competed with Chelsea in the league.
Lol no. Porto and inter spells were both better.
Mourinho walked the league 2 years in a row in a league hat still had the invincibles Arsenal and Man Utd during Keane and Scholes years....I rate that much higher cause he broke the deadlock of the league battle always being between those two.
Because it's not what happened at all. If you think the reasons Mou won a title with RM was because he "broke" Pep then you're a bit demented. Sounds more like wishful thinking trying to exaggerate the achievement beyond what is warranted.
>and his incomplete madrid side that didn't have as much quality
Oh fuck off. He had Ronaldo, prime Bale, prime Benzema, Pepe, Alonso, Ozil, Ramos, Di Maria, Kaka, Marcelo, Higuain, Khedira, Modric at his disposable and in three years he won one La Liga, one CdR and one Super Copa
everytime i read these post i just know it's a clueless american posting them.
You're right. People here forget how dominating Mourinho's first stint at Chelsea was to the point where he was a penalty away from mimicking Arsene's invincibles season. This 'mourinho plays shitty football' is such a crap stereotype and it's ironic that the 'busparking' meme people use to describe his teams was coined by him.
Two trebles in 2 entirely different leagues with entirely different teams rates higher for me
Probably cause you don't appreciate how good Man Utd and Arsenal used to be for some new guy to show up and win the league by 12 points in his first season
>prime Bale
Yank here. Bale came after Mouyes left, Mr.Futball Scholar
FC Porto winning the cl with the team they had is incredible too though. And that inter team would die on the field for him
Porto's road to the CL was easy and the only good team they faced was Man U.
>Inter
Great achievement winning the CL but with a little more luck he could have done the same at Chelsea.
Monaco was on a magical run that year. I remember it very well. A lot of people thought they'd beat Porto. They weren't a pushover
>This 'mourinho plays shitty football' is such a crap stereotype
Not really when it's rooted in reality. You mention his first stint at Chelsea, but you obviously don't remember it well as his football was depressing and his tactics stubborn. This was a team that was averaging under two goals a season over 38 games. It was just 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 wins over and over again with the odd flourish where they might have let their hair down and banged in four.
I see you recognize the flag that utterly BTFO your country.
He had Ronaldo, no bale, an incomplete version of benzema, he bought ozil, di-maria, higuain, etc for chump change before anyone rated them and converted ramos to center half when he had been an attacking right back. Did he have good players? yes. But he was facing literally the best club side ever who had an incomparable 6 trophy season in 2009 and had been playing together in one shape and style since U-9s and were literally in the middle of completing a EURO 2008 - WC2010 - EURO2012 Treble. He took Trophys away from that team. and he didn't have quite the galacticos madrid that zidane had. his buys were mostly lower profile and the one galactico they added while he was manager was kaka - who flopped.
>A lot of people thought they'd beat Porto.
"A lot of people" were wrong and they were the clear dark horses being carried by an old Morientes rediscovering his form. They were definitely a pushover granted how the final went. Point still stands that Mou's greatest achievements were at Chelsea
You're underrating how difficult it is to win a treble
didn't he work there for 6 years. this barca DNA is a new found meme, they had robson for a couch ffs
>No one rated Ozil in 2010
Please stop m8
You're underrating how hard it was to win the PL in the age of Fergie vs. Arsene and to do it while going undefeated at home.
He had a stacked team that you have just tried to belittle by posting complete and utter rubbish. How can anyone read your nonsense and not think you're mentally ill?
Man united and arsenal were great in earlly 00s. Particularly that invincibles arsenal side they were top drawer. But like i said Mourinho was using the continental system of 4-3-3 that was tactically overrunning the unadaptive english clubs who were playing 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 exclusively.
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He paid 15 million euro for ozil right before he blew up at the 2010 world cup.
Ozil was purchased after the World Cup, you fucking cretin. Khedira too.
Arsène has never really been a threat for the pl besides the invincibles year. Where coincidentally they were smashed by ronaldo's inter. As mou said he's a specialist in failure
>Mourinho is the only one who doesn't want to imitate pep because he literally is butthurt that he didnt get the job at barca when pep did.
Imagine actually believing this.
Imagine thinking that Mourinho ever wanted to go a small club like Barca.
You're completely wrong on the details about Ozil....Everyone wanted to sign that kid after the world cup...and Madrid won his signature just like they got James Rodriguez...Invincibles Arsenal won the league in 2004...Mourinho came to Chelsea the next season and dethroned them losing only one league game.
>Arsène has never really been a threat for the pl besides the invincibles yea
You're clueless and you'r wrong. Arsenal won the league in 2002 as well as 1998...the league picture for a solid 8 years was just Arsenal vs. Man Utd until Mou showed up
>Cruyff
>Chad
Reminder that he never beat AC Milan as player or as coach.
In his first ever European Cup final as a player he got BTFO 4-1 by Milan only to later be BTFO 4-0 again 25 years later in 1994 as coach.
>Everyone wanted to sign that kid after the world cup...and Madrid won his signature
Maybe that's the case. Or maybe like the rumors at the time were true that he had a deal in place already and thats why the fee is so low. Either way Mourinho got Ozil for 15 million euro. That's the manager buying an excellent player for below his true value.
>Arsène has never really been a threat for the pl besides the invincibles year.
Well this is bollocks. They should have won it in 2008 if not for the mental collapse against Birmingham
Why is 1998 relevant at all to Mourinho I don't even think he was a manager then. The more recent history from when mou joined the league showed that arsenal was a perennial pretender
>Pep tiki taka football can only be successful if UEFA refs help you.
ftfy
Yeah and they could have won a few years ago when Leicester did but that's arsenal for you. Mentally fragile. At least they have the el specialist now lel
>Maybe
It's not MAYBE...it's a literal FACT!
>15 million euro
This back then was lots of money for a 20 year old from the German league. Adjusted for inflation he paid like 60 million.
>That's the manager buying an excellent player for below his true value.
Lol
>The more recent history
You mean only when you started watching? Yeah after Mou joined the league Arsenal got phased out of the competition despite still having prime Henry.
Arsenal won 3 leagues in 6 years. During Wenger's early reign he was definitely competing for the league. He still had George Graham's entire intact back line and he built attacks that deployed Henry and Bergkamp. People thought the invincibles side was the best the PL had ever seen and then Mourinho's chelsea destroyed the league in almost the same fashion only one season later. The bongposter is right that Mou's first two titles with chelsea were brilliant performances against a very tough league with two other fantastic rivals. Probably why Mou couldnt win a CL with Chelsea because it's too hard to compete in the PL and the CL at the same time compared to the other leagues. Still though I think just being the only "new money" side with no FFP and the only side in england playing 4-3-3 gave him enough advantage especially against the smaller sides. Meanwhile at Madrid he had to take a relatively weaker and disorganized side, desperate to dethrone barca and directly compete against the best club side in history helmed by the greatest manager in the world other than Mou.
I have followed mou since the start of his career I still find what he did at Porto and inter more impressive than his Chelsea spell. Which was extremely impressive too
I think he still holds that offensive record for a Spanish team that year where he fought Barca tooth and nail for the league. He's the goat
Mou always put good foundation to the team that he ever handle, he left Chelsea in 2007, they reached the UCL final for the first time in 2008 and four years after, they win it not because Matteo, the players still use Mourinho formula, play the effective and efficient football.
In Madrid, Zidane ain't saviour, it was Mou job, before him, Real can't even handle Lyon at UCL and outwork badly by Barcelona but Mou still can win league trophy for them and create the best team to dominate Europe(UCL) for three season.
Man.Utd was stupid one because two or three players dislikes Mou and create bad atmosphere for club.
You're wrong but you're entitled to your opinion.
>Mourinho bought Higuain
I did not know Mourinho was coaching Real Madrid in 2007.
>Or maybe like the rumors at the time were true that he had a deal in place already
This is a rumour you've just invented you diabolical cunt.
How do you rate Carlo's years with Chelsea out of curiosity?
That dude is really confused or he's just relying a lot on wikipedia
6/10
He got a lot out of that team offensively I remember them banging 6 or 7 goals each game
>The season has been often termed by some newspapers as "La Liga de los Récords" (Spanish for "The League of the Records") as Real Madrid broke several long-standing records throughout the season, the most prominent being most goals in a season, previously held by the Real Madrid team which scored 107 goals during the 1989–90 season, by scoring 121 this season. Another major record which Real Madrid broke was the total number of points in one La Liga season. Their total of 100 was one point better than the previous record that was set by Barcelona in the 2009–10 season.
Mourinho's La Liga winning Madrid team. 2011-2012. That's how great his results had to be to overthrow Barcelona. An impossible unplayable side
>relying on wiki and get details wrong
>point out random minor details I misremember but ignore the scope and general meaning of what I'm saying
Forgetting exactly which squad players Mourinho bought for relative peanuts and turned into world class performances doesn't change anything. Kaka cost 65 million but flopped. Mou Bought a bunch of guys for 7-25 million euro and got world class play out of them. Pepe, Ronaldo, Xabi Alonso, Ramos etc put in excellent performances. Benzema grew a ton and became a great player. Ozil and Di Maria became mega-stars.
Had more to do with Drogba entering his prime.
Ozil was purchased AFTER the World Cup. What do you not understand about this?
If he was relying on wiki he wouldn't make mistakes.
Everybody already knew about Higuain before Mou took over since he was one of the highest goalscorers in 2010 WC where Messi didn't show up.
Milan fan here.
Anshit was lucky in his first season because all the rest of the top EPL teams were weakened that season(e.g Man U selling CR7 to Real)
He's a meme coach who got lucky he had that godtier Milan team in the 2000s and even then he managed to make the biggest choke of all time.
Let's not forget that he also choked Ligue 1 with PSG to Montpellier despite the previous coach having them in 1st place when Leonardo for some reason sacked him to appoint his butt-buddy Anshitlotti. He needed to buy Ibra and Thiago Silva to win a shitty Ligue 1.
He's kind of the master of the cl somehow. Have to give him credit for that. He was absolutely ass with Bayern though
You clearly don't know how inflation works. 15 million for Ozil 10 years ago was a lot of money, the market completely changed a few years ago when Man Utd foolishly splooged 100m for Pogba and PSG spent 200m on Neymar...Now 15 mill doesn't seem like much but it was a lot...Madrid were spending lots of money to try and stop from going out in the QF to Lyon every year and I wouldn't call Mourinho a tactical scouting genius for buying bloody Xabi Alonso.
>Benzema
Fergie wanted to sign this guy for a really long time but it never happened
Pretty much every player that Mou signed for Madrid was a target for all the other clubs. If you want to make an argument that Mou is a good talent scout then don't use Real Madrid!
>Ozil was purchased AFTER the World Cup.
when he was purchased doesn't matter. Irrelevant to the point. Purchased for 15 million which at the time was still relatively little for madrid. Then developed into a world class player. Several players joined the side for relatively cheap transfer fees. Several other players they already had shined in the roles mou used them in and became world class players.
He was purchased for 15m because he was entering the last year of his contract.
And Ozil was already WC before he joined as we saw with his performance in South Africa.
You're utterly clueless. Just leave.
>He's kind of the master of the cl somehow.
Zidane says otherwise.
He was ass with Chelsea and PSG on the CL too and he underachieved with Milan(granted some of them were not his fault like Barca refballing him in 2006 but most of them were)
>where Messi didn't show up.
Obsessed. Maradona playing suicide tactics and leaving Zanetti and Cambiasso at home isn't Messi's fault Twain.
Zizou is just some aberration I don't even understand a cl three peat
Mouyes don't coach attack that's up to the individual players. Messi will have no problem with this but dumbele and co?
>Everyone who shits on my previous midget is "muh boggeymen"
Please shut your mouth.
Messi was utter shit in 2010.
Even fucking Martin Palermo scored a goal but Messi didn't.
Goes without saying that he was outperformed big time by Higuain in that tourney.
He is the unexposable.
As opposed to your loverboy Penaldo who could only statpad 1 goal against North Korea. Lol obsessed sperg when will it end?
>outperformed big time by Higuain
You're probably the only one on earth who cares about something this meaningless, probably cause Messi refused to sign an autograph for you or something
i appreciate you yanks. seething brits always make a good chuckle
Once again I'm not your boogeyman you retarded newfag.
Both CRGay and Messhit are overrated clowns who failed big time at the World Cup.
Now on to Higuain, he outperformed Messi in 2010 World Cup. Period.
you
>Albania talking about world cup
You're probably the only one on earth who cares about something this meaningless.
lol owned by a yank
you are retarded if you think he was serious
How?
>I'm the only who enjoys football
Ok
You're the only one who cares about Higuain's meaningless goals in 2010. I'm sure even Higuain himself doesn't remember his 2010 performance
>Mou brought Kaka in
>Mou brought Benzema in
>Mou brought Higuain in
The sheer amount of misinformation in this thread is astounding. What's next? Mou was actually the one who found Raul on Atleti's training ground? you fucking zoomers really need to your research before talking shit.
So let me get this straight:
Higuain's goals were meaningless but Messi's group stage goals in 2014 were the best thing ever right?
Now let's point out another interesting statistic.
World Cup KO Goals:
Messi 0
Higuain 2(2010 vs Mexico in Ro16 and 2014 vs Belgium in Quarters)
Higuain outperformed Messi in the World Cup. Period.
They started watching Real in 2010 and think that Mourinho brought all of the players in himself.
The 90s Milan side is a who's who of football. I think the only club side that could take them to a man is the Puyol-led Barcelona of the early 2010s. Easily the toughest team to beat among the "top 5 all-time" European club sides.
>1968-74 Bayern
>1969-74 Ajax
>1977-84 Liverpool
>1990-96 Milan
>2009-14 Barcelona
Also, before you say ">50s Real Madrid", one word: Franco. The shit he did to keep that club "dominant" ...
Yep bums like Arthur, Malcolm & Coutinho, wow such barca DNA, they're sure to replace their aging past it players ASAP at this rate
>I think the only club side that could take them to a man is the Puyol-led Barcelona of the early 2010s
LMAO that team couldn't even beat Allegri's Milan without refball/fake pens.
Stop being a try hard and put RM in there
50s Madrid
98-02 Madrid
2014-2018 Madrid
All great teams
Also
>1990-1996 Milan
Make that 1987-95 Milan
In that stretch Milan reached 5 CL finals winning 3 of them(would have won 4 if it wasn't for Marseille doping in 93 and possibly could have beaten Ajax in 95 if Capello wasn't so stubborn with Savicevic but oh well)
But still, Cruyff got beaten in every single final vs Milan. It's fucking nuts.
He lost as a player in 1969 with Ajax, he lost to Sacchi's Milan in the Euro Supercup with Barcelona and then he talked so much shit in '94 prior to the CL final and got utterly destroyed.
you are the most despicable poster on this board, worse than twayn
Cry more.
>PUT 50s MADRID IN
Franco fixing their games so blatantly and openly tells me no. Not to mention his sabotage of the league to KEEP Madrid dominant.
it's fucking finished Barcelona are not winning any international trophy anymore for as long as Messi plays. He was destroyed in Argentina and Barcelona was a safe space to escape those troubles, now nowhere is safe. I honestly think this loss broke him.
>*plays for 4th place after January*