Why xavi/iniesta are so overrated?

>only starts 2 of the 3 champions leagues he was available for

>loses his center midfield to a 40 year old winger twice in finals

>elite

lol this meme needs to die.

This is how the official Yea Forums certified™ ranking goes:

Lampard
Xavi/Gerrard
Iniesta
Scholes

Scholes has better technique but the Spaniards have higher IQ and better vision

>higher IQ
I know a man with an IQ higher than all of them combined

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>englishmen
>technique

anyone who doesn't put Iniesta at number 1 shouldn't express opinions about the sport tbqh

Iniesta wasn't half the player Lampard was. There's literally no justification for putting shitiesta above him besides his number of CL, half of which have an asterisk next to them anyway and the others are thanks to Messi.

Best English player of all time

How did he score so much lads?

>get rebound off Drogba
>shoot from outside box
>deflection
>goal

spaz

Then who's the better player between Scholes and Seedorf?

Iniesta was TWICE the player. He was a key factor to winning the Euro-WC-Euro

No one out of England would rate any English footballer ahead of Xavi or Iniesta. They do not even have one better than Piqué or Puyol.

>Piqué or Puyol
>who is terry
Absolute cringe. Terry was the undisputed best centre back of this century, those pussies don't come close. Even Ferdinand was better.

>No one out of England would rate any English footballer ahead of Xavi or Iniesta
Because we're unlikable cunts and everyone wants to rile us up, but Lampard is still better than shitiesta and you still haven't given a reason. I mean shit, Gerrard was a better player than them both even.

nobody sane would try and say slippy T is anywhere near as good as rio

Terry and Rio are better than Pique and Puyol, as is Campbell and Charlton

explane the assists too

*Sips*

Ahh anybody remember when Scholes was a football manager, certainly better than Lampard and Gerrard despite what the casuals say

>No one out of England would rate any English footballer ahead of Xavi or Iniesta.

except Xavi and Iniesta

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>Played in a one team league and the most stacked national team of all time
woow so good

Yeah, ManU had a lot of competition when Scholes was there. Lack of money too. Same than Chelsea. Go kys.

There was though? More competition than Barcelona had. Mid 2000s Arsenal and Chelsea were better than the Real Madrid and Atletico teams than Iniesta won titles against

Except just about everyone that didn't have some sort of bias against Terry's off-field antics.

UEFA Best Defender:
>Terry: 3
>Rio: 0

UEFA TOTY:
>Terry: 4
>Rio: 0

ESM TOTY:
>Terry: 3
>Rio: 1

FIFA World XI:
>Terry: 5
>Ferdinand: 1

World Cup All-Star team:
>Terry: 1
>Ferdinand: 0

Literally the only ones who rate Ferdinand over Terry are the biased English pundits who all hate Terry.

And Wayne Bridge

>Scholes was way better than that two.
Madridiot

8 seconds

c r i n g e

>La Liga
It's a joke league if you're playing for Barcelona. If he played for Atletico, then fair enough, but he didn't so they're effectively worthless.

>copa del rey
same as above

>Spanish Supercup
nope

>UEFA Supercup
nope

>Club world cup
nope

>Champions League
At least 1 of those is bullshit. If it weren't for Terry's slip, Lampard would have 2, and if it weren't for uefa and ovrebo, he'd have 3. Just because Iniesta played for the club that had uefa in its back pocket doesn't mean shit.

>world cup, euros
Messi is the best player ever and has no NT accolades to show for it, so we can disregard those.

This. 2000s PL had United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal all of whom were better than Barcelona's competition. Winning anything in England in those days regardless of the team was more impressive than winning anything with Barcelona. (Still is)

Never even won a Europa league kek

Its already started with Carrick too

>Terry

Not even the best Chelsea centre half of this century

Dumb fucking motherfucker

Luis Figo

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>Xavi and Iniesta are rightfully top 20 players of all time
Maybe the top 20 Spanish players of all time

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>They do not even have one better than Piqué or Puyol
I'll take Beckham over these 2 ugly memes(who can't defend btw) anyday.

>Terry was the undisputed best centre back of this century
LMAO

Nobody who was actually old enough to watch Scholes rates him

He has less Premier League assists than James Milner, Gareth Barry, Crouch, Andy Cole, Danny Murphy, Jimmy Flloyd Hasselbaink and countless others

Yet another brainlet post from perry. AC Milan's days were in the 90s, your centre backs had nothing on prime Terry.

Hard work and intuition

But muh 80 yard daisycutter pass

this

Its another "delusional bongs want to compare their meme players with WC winners and technician masters" thread

yikes

no he wasnt

>still can't back anything up
Terry was better than Puyol and Pique, not even close you fucking moronic inbred.

lmao how dumb are you? you must be a mutt with double name since u defend Rio over Terry.

Terry is top 3 centerback of all time, and the best of his generation by far.

Scholes was a good player but all this bollocks about how he was world class is risible. He had nothing on Xavi, Iniesta, Lampard, Gerrard, etc.

Cringe

United supporters do, because they have the memory of a goldfish