That other thread about NTs made me think of this. What if you were only allowed to play 100% native players in your NT (not even from neighbour countries)?
For example: >Van Dijk: Dutch father, Surinamese mother - Not allowed >Olivier Giroud: French parents, but both grandmothers are Italian - Not allowed >Diego Costa: Both parents Brazilian, but plays for Spain - Not allowed in Spanish NT, but allowed in Brazilian >Van Persie: Has some Indian in him from one of his grandparents - Not allowed
After digging around, I came up with this for my cunt. It's pretty horrible, but better than expected. It made me realise that we literally have no "ok" LW/LM. The best option would be Linssen, a bang average manlet that plays for Vitesse and will probably never achieve anything significant in his football career.
Countries like France and England would be Finland-tier.
Xavier Smith
>AML What about Bryan Linssen?
Anthony Anderson
Considering even our white players are part Irish I've no idea.
Thomas Campbell
If you're not allowed any player who's not 100% of that nationality most European countries would be, since there's a fuck ton of players whose mothers are from a neighbouring country or some shit like that.
Oliver Lopez
or Roy Beerens? Or Vito van Crooy?
Brody Harris
What about Argentina? All our players have European grand-great parents
Jose Nguyen
>Finland tier >Highly rating Trashford, Deli Alli, Jlingz and Danny Roseshart
Josiah Barnes
Wait so England players couldnt be part Scottish/Welsh?
Noah Allen
>>Diego Costa: Both parents Brazilian, but plays for Spain - Not allowed in Spanish NT, but allowed in Brazilian
what the fuck is this logic, where do you think brazilians came from?
Carson Baker
French people dont exist
Dylan Sanchez
don't think you could find 11 native soccer players desu
Carson Ward
I mentioned Linssen in the OP but I think that says enough about the state.
As long as both grandparents are from that country, it's okay. But yes, this is probably a big problem for countries like Argentina or USA but that makes it more interesting as well.
William Martin
On second note, I guess it would be fair to let English players with partly Scottish/Welsch roots in the team.
Gabriel Sanders
Do players born in foreign soil to 100% native parents count?
Elijah Jenkins
it's kind of a retarded premise because most players aren't even allowed to play for anyone. I think giroud playing for france or like rooney for england is fine, it's just the fresh off the boat africans that really seem to cheapen international soccer. france is like 80% white, it is just weird that their like entire team is black dudes, not even a racist thing at all.
Nathaniel Sanchez
Yes, like I said, Costa can play for Brazil but not for Spain.
Who would England have up front? Kane is part Irish and I'm pretty sure Vardy is too
Luis Brown
If you dont like the thread get the fuck out then. Looking for completely native players was actually quite fun for me.
Austin Ward
I meant cases like Cedric Soares. Born in Germany to 100% portuguese parents, came to Portugal when he was still a little kid.
Nathan Campbell
Sure, he can be in the Portuguese team.
Connor Miller
>this is probably a big problem for countries like Argentina or USA but that makes it more interesting as well. i don't think this should apply to new world nations. brasil has like, 800.000 natives out of 200 million inhabitants
GK: Jack Butland DL: Ben Chillwell DC: Harry Maguire (can't find if he has Irish but he might do) DC: John Stones DR: Craig Dawson ML/AML: Marc Albrighton CM: James Milner (Ross Barkley is part Nigerian) CM: Danny Drinkwater MR/AMR: Solly March FW: Jamie Vardy (not sure if he is part Irish) FW: Glenn Murray
Jay Rodriquez has a Spanish grandfather. Kane is part Irish, so is Rooney. Rest are part African. Ashley Barnes is part Austrian. Charlie Austin is probably the next one along.
Samuel Roberts
Well I guess you can have a Portuguese grandparent for Brazilian players, but if its a German or something its not allowed. Personally I would still find it more interesting to look for completely native ones, you could probably find some top meme shit.
Nathan Harris
>can't find if he has Irish but he might do I mean his name is Maguire. Still, a solid midtable side.
Cameron Diaz
Welcome to Nations League Division C.
Leo Young
honestly thought you'd have more mercenaries. are they all bahraini arab?
Camden Jackson
Lad you went through the grandparents of all of these players to ensure your aryan-pure team.. ?
Luis Cruz
>workrate >21/20
Jordan Rodriguez
Looks better than expected desu.
For most of them, yeah. This isnt some kind of /pol/-tier aryan jerkoff fantasy, just a curious investigation.
Isaac Johnson
>Jay Rodriguez has a Spanish grandfather >Rodriguez Did you really have to mention this?
Nathaniel Ross
You used to, however. Abdulla Omar and Faouzi Aaish were probably your best players and were of Chadian and Morocco descent, respectively.
Nathan Gonzalez
But Diego Costa maybe has Native admixture too, it's hard to find a 100% native here but most brazilians have native admixture.
Anthony Peterson
You should consider looking into social constructivism, you’re pretty deep into some stupid shit and you’re wasting brain power getting stupider.
Owen Young
Names mean nothing mate, Ross Barkley is an English name yet he is part Nigerian. Reiss Nelson another example, doesn't sound African. Junior Stanislas sounds like a Brazilian and Greek/Cyprian name, yet he's from St Lucia.
Mason Hill
Read Why do you faggots always have to make everything political? Unironically kill yourself.
Isaiah Williams
Fancy that a good club
Jackson Morris
If Nigel Farage was a 26 year old footballer, would he count, having got French ancestry?
If its some grand-grand parent sure. As long as the grandparents from both parents are considered English he can be in the team.
Luis Morris
Aye but it could have been further back generation wise, so it gets through.
>not working VERY hard to win matches Come on.
Honestly it isn't THAT bad, the issue is that our strikers and right midfield kinda falls apart after that. As I said, the best choice we have after those two is Charlie Austin. Patrick Roberts is probably the next best RW we have.
Cameron Smith
>Ross Barkley is an English name yet he is part Nigerian. Lol he looks super white to me.
Jeremiah Collins
Dan heb ik liever Linssen.
Joshua Martinez
Any portubro, feel free to provide input.
>inb4 tsu's capeverdian granny or whatever A lot of native portuguese people lived in the colonies before we granted them independence.
I wanted to put Dalot but I'm unsure about the french surname. Some foreign surnames date back to old noble families whose descendants are already too mixed into the portuguese population to be considered foreign.
we used to have Jaycee John and Abdulla Fatay who were Nigerians too but not anymore, people got mad after we failed to reach the South Africa WC and demanded a locals only team
Zachary Walker
and I forgot to replace Dalot for Cedric lmao
Levi Thompson
See . There is also Jaycee John, Sayed Mohamed Adnan and Abdulla Fatadi that I know of who have second nationalities. Dunno about the rest and their grandparents and shit.
Gavin Wilson
Sure another user has a pic but his grandad's blackness got bleached out pretty quick
Julian Williams
Nigerian Grandfather.
Dominic Perry
No Higuaín
Jackson Barnes
Lad in what way is it possible for an english man to acquire the name and not be of spanish descent?
David Allen
How is it possible that Ross Barkley has a Nigerian grandfather looking the way he does? You can change your name fucking easy peasy. Protip, Chinese/Malay people used to give their kids English names to fit in. Jackie Chan isn't called Jackie Chan. And to answer your question, his great-great-great-great-great grandfather was Spaniard and the name has been with them ever since.
Jayden Campbell
And even weirder, being black
I thought Gomez' grandparents were from somewhere like Dominican Republic who moved to Jamaica/England
Nolan Bell
>how is it possible He's not white that's for sure
Whatever James Rodriquez' descent its really not a bad rule of thumb to assume that someone living in England with a foreign name.. is of foreign descent.
No Asensio No David Silva No Iñaki Williams No Thiago Alcântara No Diego Costa No Rodrigo (Valencia CF)
Ryan Kelly
you need to go back
Xavier Moore
Ours isn't really fair cause id wager that a high percentage of the population have at least one recent Irish ancestor given the fact that they are 100% assimilated in England
Plus our country is arbitrarily split up on national level unlike most countries, for example if Castile was on it's own, and couldn't even have players of Andalusian or Catalonia heritage
Jaxson Smith
>Implying Catalonia is not an independent country heh
Anthony Cox
>Messi oh nonono
Dylan Hernandez
>8 seconds
Brandon Perez
I believe some of them Slovak grandparents for sure. Also Schick doesn't sound like Czech surname isn't it?
Alexander Reed
>except for Theodor n'gebre Selassie who's half ethiopian that's why he makes my International Ngubu 11
I was just memeing. It's thought that the name Croat is of Iranic origin. A small group like them was absorbed by Slavs somewhere in the steppes which then traveled west and finally Balkans which also had its native people. So if you find some white people in Iran and central Asia, they'd pass as Croats and Serbs, but not really as Polaks and Czechs.
Levi Bennett
something like this i suppose -------------------courtois meunier - vertonghen - alderweireld - castagne -------------------dendoncker ------------de bruyne-------praet hazard ------------------------ hazard --------------------mertens
Probably, it's hard to call because some players don't even have the city they were born in on the wiki, let alone a fucking three generation family tree. It's hard to call when we were one country thirty years ago and a third of your NT isn't at least a mixed half-nigger like the Dutch or English, they have it easy. The three suspect surnames are Kúdela, Jankto and Schick. But the latter two were born in Prague, so what do I know. Depends on what you define as "native", because not completely Czech surnames are common. Shit, I have a German surname, but even my great grandparents lived in the country, so I don't wanna throw anyone out.
Luke King
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Samuel Reed
That would be too easy, so I did the opposite. Even if on the right, we have a grandpa and a guy who can't use his dick properly, I believe our coach Hernan [spoiler]El Polaco[/spoiler] Crespo would make it work
Not really, him are typical Brazilian mutt with more prominent white features, you don't see anyone like him in Mexico NT. Also him mon is quite hot. The most indio looking player I can Reminder is Paulinho.
