he hit it right at alisson, wasn't going to score unless the liverpool defender deflected it
IT TOOK A DEFLECTION
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"no"
MARCA gave it as own goal, it's official deflected
Damn at least Donaldo sends his freekicks in upper stands without a deflection
how big is his IQ to perfectly calculate the ball's trajectory after deflecting on the defender's shoulder and dodge allelson's poor excuse of a defense?
wtf fuck Messi now
it was all calculated
GOAT
Easy to tell because otherwise Messi is supernatural
Or into one man Lahm walls kek
Cope
Messi is the most overrated player in history.
That doesn't mean he isn't a great player but the media has always sucked his dick and amplififed each thing he has done through out his career.
HARD COPE
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Not a deflection.
Wouldn't matter anyway.
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It clearly touches
Are you blind?
It's just the camera angle
He was aiming for Gomez’s shoulder.
I have watched that video like three times. It never deflects.
>MARCA gave it as own goal
wrong
This PROVES that CRISTIANO is the GOAT
C A L C U L A T E D
What a fraud
Actually it does pay attention
i keep watching and i literally cannot see the deflection.
how can a deflected ball curve back like that?
Hitting a player should change the spin and everything
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you guys are trolling right?
Cope
it looks like a deflection because the nigger on the left side moves his shoulder trying to deflect it, but it happens when the ball is already past him
the ball didn't actually hit him
It changes spin of the ball.. It makes is spin faster, its clearly visible at 0:11
You can see at 0;12 it doesn't touch. Flies by Gomez like ET by the FBI.
It does touch the shoulder. Look it up in slow motion.
Pure luck.
based retard poster
better angle here definitely looks like a deflection
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keikaku doori
>tftp
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA it touched the shoulder.
Confirmed.
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH LOOK AT THE PENALDOFAGS
YOU WANT TO MAKE A LIST OF ALL THE DEFLECTED GOALS RONALDO SCORED?
But if it was taken by Donaldo it was a legit goal by himself right? Fuck off.
alright what now
Is this the official Seething thread? All Messi haters in one place. Haha, you can only cry.
cope
Noticed how the ball spins faster lel
>when your football autism is so high that you know exactly were to hit the defender with millimetric precision to score a goal
So called "el maestro" is exposed. Thank you Ameribro.
The mutt is right though. You are objectively losing this arguemint.
*Yikes*
This thread's way too sad and cringey for me. But it's ok, we all understand you, anons. We all cope in different ways
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How much spin did it have to be deflected and still come back in the goal, freakish shit
Reminder he won a free kick for punching fabinho
what is the big deal? it wasnt even his best free kick
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!
Because that's a clear obstruction
all this angles and slowmo, is this twain's 9/11?
you don't think it was a deflection?
it was.
keikaku doori
Perhaps an investigation into the Yolrkshire police is necessary
Help me out Norway. The goal counts either way right? Why are we even debating this?
It's a 50/50 call that does not change anything.
Literal zoomers and football know-nothings missing the point as always. Look up obstruction in football. If a player gets with his body in front of you and doesn't go for the ball it's a foul and a yellow.
i don't know why people are debating it, it was clearly a deflection. not that it matters, but to me it's obvious so i'm wondering why people say it wasn't. maybe i'm a little autistic. i have nothing against messi.
Punching is a red
Look at the spin it changes when it's past the defender most likely it grazed him
The trajectory of the ball doesnt look like it was deflected. How do you propose this worked?
How can one man be this based?
Look at this angle
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>bet for Barcelona
>win
WTF I love easy money now.
Will avoid betting in the 2nd leg when it's in Liverpool's home though.
honestly I still don't think it touched Gomez, the rotation of the ball looks the same to me on the slow mo replays, even going frame by frame
Gomez sticks his shoulder out and that movement kinda makes it look like it deflected, depending on what you focus on, but imo no contact
and I'm doubtful of phone recordings of a television where the pitch and perspective is so curved it makes a flat-earther sweat
it did not, unless it was barely noticeable
the ball does not change intended trajectory, speed nor the amount of spin delivered, which are the most important things in placing a free kick like this
this is literally like every other Messi free kick
Posting a clear deflection for comparison
to me it looks like it goes upwards a bit, relative to this camera's position, after hitting the shoulder.
we're not dealing with hd footage here though
Well, this video actually perfectly shows how little influence that almost imperceptible graze had in the FK's output
It's an optical illusion because the camera is going up, and so is the Liverpool player, which makes the Liverpool player look quiet, which makes it look like the ball changed trajectory, but it's just the angle changing. It's clear in static angles.
I think there is just one angle that looks more like deflection than the other. People love to debate this stuff I guess, but does not mean anything in the long run.
>Amerifat
>retard
Why I'm not surprised?
Yeah that's what I think it is as well, since just focusing on the ball it doesn't really look like the trajectory changes, but when I focus on the wall it's as if the ball bounced a bit when Gomez is at his highest and moves his shoulder
so it's like I sometimes see it clean and sometimes it looks like there was a touch, so I'm thinking it's an illusion
if it was an illusion due to the camera going up, wouldn't the illusion be that the ball was going down, since it wouldn't follow the upwards motion of camera/players? and the change in direction is instant exactly when near the shoulder, not drawn out.
i think it's obvious here too, different camera. maybe i'm going crazy.
That's why the Halal press has to work hard to minimize everything he does right?
Halal only cares about winning the next Champions League. The 14th by the way.
fucking based. fuck fabinho
I think it looks like the ball goes higher because the liverpool players stop moving higher at that point
and again in these cameras you can see how skewed the perspective is by just looking at the pitch so it's all dubious
I dunno in the end it's a beautiful kick anyway so I'm filing it under "maybe, maybe not" unless/until uefa releases some proper HD slowmo angle that leaves no doubt one way or the other
>Halal only cares about winning the next Champions League
I thought Zidane wanted to win the ligue next season?
C O P E !
hello, tontomas, what are you doing on spuh?
how much?
OHHH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>deflected
>somehow continues spinning absolutely perfectly into the top corner
The ball breezed past the shoulder and didn't touch it you mongs. If it did touch it while moving at that speed it would have sent the ball to the stands.
Some of you have never kicked a ball in your lives and it shows
Another deflection is Messi conmebol vs Ronaldo euros
No
This was a 2/10 troll thread and you are all taking the bait. Sad
It grazed Gomez and changed its direction of the spin tbqh lad
>changed the direction of the spin
That's not how it works lad
It is when it just merely touches the shoulder
>your title chances flies away
Damn :(
here faggot:
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>Changed its direction of the spin
Not even remotely. It certainly didn't change direction of the spin, but it also didn't change direction and speed of the ball in any appreciable and meaningful way other than in a certain autistic cammera shot if you look it at a certain angle on a full moon day.
In 99% of all other recordings of the goal, at real speed or super slow-mo, from the official broadcast to other private TV stations reporters on site, to amateur fan cellphone videos like or you can see that it changed absolutely nothing
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>other than
so you're saying the deflection is visible in some shots due to the angle being suited to see the change?
All this proves is that he isn't a stats padder
so these are the levels of cope anti messi fags have reached now?
implying liverpoop is any good
lmao
Yep.
From this morning's BBC livetext:
>Am I the only one who thinks this 'Messi Magic' reaction is unfounded? A deflected free kick (off Gomez's shoulder) and bundling in a lucky rebound is hardly an ace performance. Maybe you make your own luck, but maybe Lionel's reputation is rose-tinting a few glasses. - James, Kent
The seethe has been hilarious.
That's 100% correct though. Why does a easy tap in and deflected free kick against Liverpool's B team mean anything?
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OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT DOESN'T COUNT IT GRAZED ALLISON'S CHIN FUZZ AND DEFLECTED IT BY ABOUT 1.81 NANOMETRES FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD
Did more than any of Livershit's """superstars""".
>doesn’t address the facts
This board..... it’s all so tiresome
The gol was a masterpiece, i can't decide if the ball touch the shoulder or not, either way it does'nt matter at all
O TWAIN
Just ask /sci/ or /g/ tbqh
Messi is the GOAT.
Lucky dwarf. I knew he wouldn't be able to actually score from there without luck or a keepers mistake
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