/nfl/ general - Jameis Winston Is A Little Bitch edition

>t. 1-5 division record

Dolphins is worst place for Ryan Fitzpatrick. Pats, Bills, and Jets are all immune to "Fitzmagic" at this point. Good idea for them if they're trying to tank.

Based vikes chads

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Not so fast kid...

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>There are Josh Allen doubters in this thread right now

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>will go 14-2
>will lose in divisional or NFCCG

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unpossible

>vikangs
ahaha

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Remember when the Vikings lost to a barely trying Bears team?

Hard to remember all their losses/ties, really. Who the fuck ties btw? lol

Josh Allen or Josh Allen? Cuz I think Josh Allen >>>>> Josh Allen

This is a vikes thread now
>burns your secondary

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>double doink

>hype up your meme white receiver to a ridiculous level
>he ends up not even being a top 10 receiver
wew

*sprints past your D*

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not drafting head cases and high risk players and saving your picks for when you actually need em

Gurley > Zeke > Bell >>> Kamara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else

Why did the Rams take a RB in the 3rd and resign their backup?

Smart teams value talent and depth

Which team's fans are going to whinge the most this season?

My guess:

>aints (still asshurt about the Minneapolis Miracle and the Rams no call)
>choofs (all their good offensive weapons got suspended indefinitely and muttholms will regress, also still triggered by the offsides)
>gnast (literally a 2-14 team with maybe the worst quarterback in the league and zero future prospects)
>shaggles (wentz is a bust and everybody has already forgotten about their one [1] ring)

Who else?

SHUT THE FUCK UP

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FUCKING BASED

but Barkley is better than Bell

No Barkley is in that everyone else column

>wentz is a bust
lol how is /nfl/ so assblasted by and scared of this man?

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cowcucks as usual (until they disappear, of course)

Browns fans, just like Jaguar and Santa Clara fans disappeared last year after rons of shitposting

Aint this the guy that went 0-2 to Dak last season, I dont think cowboys fans are assblasted

because hes a ginger qb is why. Only thing worse than that is a Jewish and or black qb in Yea Forums's eyes

>Vikingsfag parroting off wins from another team
>a team that humiliated them.

The same guy who came off a acl tear and was brought back too early, then yes it is. Also makes me kinda wish Dak would get an acl tear just to see the cowboys seethe.

>had the best draft
>didn't even have a first rounder
>everyone else is staring at their shiny overrated skill position draft picks
>everyone else still thinks Dak is bad for some nonsense reasons
>bout to field one of the best defense's in 20 yrs
>just reloaded both sides of the line and are fully prepared for future success
Incoming owl

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They literally drafted a replacement last week

>mutt QB
yea, it ain't habbening

You guys are going to get vaporized in Foxboro

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Studfield's replacement you mean since his contract is due up after this season. Nice try though.

>His teams sole playoff win was to a rebuild in progress team that wasn't even suppose to be in the playoffs, and still almost lost to them.

>had the best draft
They were one Daniel Jones away from having the worst draft in the division.

But Duck Poopscott IS bad

more like continues to regress and gets the HC fired

weak meme seeth harder

If I knew you in person I would bet money on it. You might actually see the end of Brady's career here.

Lmao remind me how many playoff starts wintz has

Iggles will live in this vikcucks head rentfree for all eternity for blowing them out, cucking them out of their first owl win at their own house, and fucking their wives in front of them in the after party.

I agree he will probably retire after ring number 7

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>rebuild
>NFC dynasty for past 6 yrs
If you think c-cucks were in rebuild, then you don't know what you're watching.

pats when they start slow
bears when they regress
browns when they lose some close games

remind me of how many rings dak has

Thats fine, I guess. Everything's speculation until we really know. Go ahead and look up their first two, Hill and McGovern(sp?). Both will be considered top steals of the draft, and are designed to free cap space and replace for the future.

Your dynasty ended the moment your team threw that pick on the goalline fucko. Also the death of the legion of boom was a franchise way of saying it's rebuild time to you delusional seahawk fans.

I hope he can retire still able to walk. Did you see what the Cowboys did to opposing qbs last year?
They got significantly better on front 7.
Brady might die.

What will get them closer to the owl then guy? Firing autistic HC. or benching Dak?

>all their good offensive weapons got suspended
>forgetting about Travis Kelce, Demarcus Robinson, Sammy Watkins for 4 games a year, and whatever 3rd-6th round rb the Chiefs draft every two years

>His team defense couldn't stop a 3 point owl Goof led Rams team
Pottery

>zero owl appearances since 14
>haven't even won a single playoff game since that owl loss
>dynasty
lol

Jerry Jones dying is when they finally win another owl via him giving his soul to the devil.

DT has been the focal point of the offseason. You're right tho they got exposed against the rasms. You're all also not knowing who Tyrus Hill is.

*tryston

So has most teams this off season dude

You guys are getting criticized pretty hard for your draft, actually. Time will tell, I suppose.

>Muh Amari Cooper

d'aw, it's the adorable vikings posting
how long did that last last season?

100% wouldnt even be mad if the vikings lost to the bills in the owl
no there isnt. anyone who doubts allen is lying to themselves.
vikings are a wildcard team at best right now. the sooner we get rid of spielman the better.

vikings and eagles are both real question marks right now. I dont know who's gonna show up next year. eagles will at least have a run game.
truthfully I still think its the rams and the saints again. did the saints do anything in FA? they dont have the money right?

but why did Aaron Jones average a higher YPC than all of those guys?

The vikings are shit

Hi where are the colts memes

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Didn't you get banned, autist?

Bell = Demarco Murray

Who?

Colin CHADgod’s team

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nah it was a voluntary thing. I ran my mouth and got called out on it by tiki.
it was easy staying away from a bunch of zoomer faggots that know nothing about football but I had to come back because of the draft.

I'll fade out soon enough. it was hard to stay away during the AAF days. but that dream is dead and I feel nothing anymore. I just dream of the xfl now.

I think Wentz is a good QB but his health is concerning

*trades back*

You'll never erase getting fucking domed in your own dome by the Eagles and then the Bills though

Don't really care about that one to be honest. This is the only time I will openly admit this, but the one that hurts the most is still the 09 nfccg. Getting dicked down by the eagles is whatever. They had a good team. But that will never be able to compare to the butthurt that saints game caused for Minnesota.

You're a ball of autistic cringe. This general is unironically a lot better without you.

Are you ready for your blessings?
Are you ready for your miracle?

TYBC
Y
B
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From a Bengals fan, YUP. He led the AFC in rushing yards. Now that we hopefully can field a competent o line, and Zac Taylor has said he intends to rely on Mixon more, he's going to make some fucking noise

Miss them so much

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will the packers ever be good again? sigh...

Not as long as fagers is quarterback

the day I worry about what some dark skinned buzz word spouting faggot like you thinks is the day I give up on this place for good
let me tell you three things about this no brain cocksucker
>he has said the word "meme" outloud in front of people like its a part of his identity
>he thinks the holocaust really happened
>he listens to overproduced niggers spouting nonsense bullshit on spotify from his phone

>autistic cringe
you want to know how you grew up without a strong male role model and have zero strong male friends or relatives? like do you even have a buddy that you respect as a parent?

Holy shit this autism lel

they might be if Wince is let go in FA and then Packo's sign him next year

>you now remember when New York Jets head coach Rex Ryan was outted as a footfag and a cuck who had rando black men smell his wife's feet.
>you now also remember that his wife's spread eagle nudes leaked

The absolute state of the Jets

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Hawks have won two playoff games since then.

>Spread eagle nudes

Post em I'm curious. And by curious I mean horny.

twitter.com/ShannonSharpe/status/1123054218795933696
OH NO NO NO NO

>wildcard games
lol

J-U-S-T
Just just just!
lmao losers

just as much credit as the Dak and and Cowboys wildcard win was

Not him but here I go

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big gross

Google it, man

Give it to me straight bros, how bad are we gonna be this year?

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enjoy ur b&

>

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Who is the most based LB in the league and why is it Vontaze.

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Based

It's actually Kamuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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Last in the division. If they're lucky they'll be third instead. All we can hope is that the new meme coach actually does good and/or Mike Brown dies within the year.

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and he did that with a bad o-line and jeff driskel playing qb for most of the year. Pro bowls are meaningless, but he shouldve made it

optimistic bengal fan here. Revamped o-line, heavy running attack with Mixon, good d-line, good secondary. The AFC just happens to be very strong this year with the steelers (8-8 minimun), Ravens (8-8 minimun) and Browns finally being good. With that said, I see them doing better than 6-10. But 8-8 is last place in this division. AFC is just a conference that is quite strong right now on paper

Tom Brady is so fucking chad jesus christ

He literally has Gisele raising another woman's kid

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oh, and linebackers will be bad per usual. Easily the weakest link, but hey, that's how it has always been on the defensive side of the ball

Fucking BASED

If only I could feel the way you feel user. Hopefully the upcoming season will quell these concerns.

That's fucking awful

>If only I could feel the way you feel user
I feel 8-8 and 4th in afc north. I mean, still a last place team at the end of the day. But I think that offense is going to surprise people. People forget cincy was 4-2 last season before Green and Dalton got placed on the injured shelf

honestly, not bad

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yikes
theyll be good for the next five years tho

youtube.com/watch?v=oTfTrCfLttg

Call from reporter in 2000 after being drafted

We finna dab on this whole fuckin league

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Who will be on Hard Knocks this year?

Top 5 draft pick next year

Raiders or 9ers hopefully

Based Bill

Gingers are not looked down upon here

Not like it would make you any less depressed

God I hope not the 9ers. Hard knocks sucks. The NFL films series on Amazon is so much better.

Worst post I've ever seen

single mother
jewish propaganda 100% saturation rate
SAD

we got wolf hunter last year and people laughed at that. Look how that turned out. Our picks may not look huge, but they will be great for the boys. Also Coop's the best WR out there and worth the first.

What if his dad died fighting the jews?

well then he's lebanese or a 50 year old german
either way fuck that soccer loving faggot

You make no sense faggot

>thought it was joke but it was real

Rex's wife is pretty hot though so I can't blame the guy for making her a fetish tank

>Coop's the best WR out there and worth the first.
Nice of you to join us Mr. Jones.

Wentz redemption arc soon

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Because he averaged more yards per carry, very impressive

you = fucking retard

Why doesn't the nfl understand culture? What Tyreek Hill did isn't domestic violence, it's just black culture. baka

Because Gurley shouldn't be getting 5 jillion carries a game

>Ever being relevant again

The ABSOLUTE COUNTRY of the Bungles.

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This, unironically

Based

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Is the a more privileged group of people than the Mannings?

Panthers are low key going to the playoffs after newton gets his shoulder ripped from his socket

I didn't see the stool at first and thought he was just making fun of the draft pick

and Cincy just beefed up their line:

Round 1 • Pick 11 • OT Jonah Williams, Alabama Crimson Tide
Round 2 • Pick 52 • TE Drew Sample, Washington Huskies
Round 4 • Pick 136 • OG Michael Jordan, Ohio State Buckeyes

>the NFL should be scared

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same here

Bill stepping on the field because he gotta flex on some bitch

For all the Glory!

he also posted this yesterday
>he coming

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Brownsfag here. I wish you all luck. Never had a problem with the Bengals. As long as the stoolers and, may allah forgive me for uttering this word, ratbirds sit at the bottom of the division I'm happy.

bitchknees is ban evading again, lol loser

Ohio Broship

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The Bush's.

lol

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>the haul for Odell Beckham is hard to justify. The Giants got Dexter Lawrence, Oshane Ximines and Jabrill Peppers for Odell. In no world do you make that straight up trade. You just don't.

>will break the single game sack record against Matt Stafford with 14
>Stafford gets back up every time
That would be inspiring as hell to watch
He's basically fucking invincible at this point, even if he's not the best qb

>assuming the gnats wouldn't fuck up their draft
Considering some of their choices and the state of the team it was a reasonable assumption

PFF senior analyst Gordon McGuinness:
>Chase Winovich, Edge, Michigan
>He produced back-to-back seasons with a PFF grade of 90.0 or higher in 2017 and 2018, and he didn’t just beat up on poor opposition either, with his highest-graded pass-rushing games in 2018 coming against Penn State, Michigan State, Notre Dame, and Ohio State. Given that he likely slips into round two or beyond, I’ll back him to outperform multiple edge defenders who come off the board before him.

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>McShay saying the Patriots are now more vulnerable than ever
Stop me if you’ve heard this one before
Gonna be the steal of the draft

Based brownie

>Pats are more vulnerable than ever
Pats team last season was arguably the weakest they’ve ever been and they still managed to win the SB.

I believe that Haskins will be the biggest bust since Jamarcus. That dude is dumber that shit.

Exactly
I was saying the Pats were weak as fuck last offseason and got happily proven wrong

How big is he gonna get bros?

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Literally who?

He's not, really. He's pretty intelligent. Not a very good football player though.

Christian Jackson McCaffrey (born June 7, 1996) is an American football running back and return specialist for the Carolina Panthers of the National Football League (NFL). He played college football at Stanford, and was drafted by the Panthers with the eighth overall pick in the 2017 NFL Draft. As a sophomore in 2015, McCaffrey was the AP College Football Player of the Year and the runner-up for the Heisman Trophy. He holds the NCAA record for most all-purpose yards in a season with 3,864. In the NFL he is the current record holder for most receptions by a running back with 107; as well as the Carolina Panthers single-season receptions leader.

McCaffrey received an invitation to the NFL Combine as one of the top running back prospects entering the draft and completed all of the required combine drills and participated in positional drills. He attended Stanford's Pro Day, but was satisfied with his combine numbers and only ran positional drills for the NFL scouts and representatives. McCaffrey was projected to be a first round pick by the majority of NFL experts and analysts. He was ranked the third best running back in the draft by Sports Illustrated, the fourth best running back by Pro Football Focus, and ranked the second best by NFLDraftScout.com and ESPN.

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>2017 season: Rookie year

McCaffrey made his NFL season debut in the Panthers' season-opener against the San Francisco 49ers and recorded 47 rushing yards, 38 receiving yards, and a lost fumble in a 23–3 victory. In Week 3, against the New Orleans Saints, he had nine receptions for 101 yards. In Week 5 against the Detroit Lions, McCaffrey scored his first career touchdown on a six-yard shovel pass from quarterback Cam Newton. In Week 9, against the Atlanta Falcons, he scored his first career rushing touchdown on a four-yard rush in the second quarter. In the team's Monday Night Football win over the Miami Dolphins, McCaffrey scored twice–one rushing and one receiving–and totaled 50 yards. In Week 15, in a victory over the Green Bay Packers, McCaffrey brought his season total to 73 catches and five receiving touchdowns, being the only rookie running back in NFL history with at least 70 receptions and five touchdown catches before being joined by Alvin Kamara later in the season. The following week, against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, McCaffrey brought his catch total to 75, breaking the Panthers rookie record of 74 set by Kelvin Benjamin. He finished his rookie season with 435 rushing yards, two rushing touchdowns, 80 receptions, 651 receiving yards, and five receiving touchdowns. The Panthers made the playoffs as the #5-seed.In the Wild Card Round against the New Orleans Saints, he had 16 rushing yards, six receptions, 101 receiving yards, and one receiving touchdown in the 31–26 loss.

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>2018
In Week 2, against the Atlanta Falcons, McCaffrey recorded a career-high 14 receptions for 102 receiving yards to go along with 37 rushing yards in the 31–24 loss. In Week 3, against the Cincinnati Bengals, he had 28 carries for a career-high 184 rushing yards in the 31–21 victory. Though limited in yardage for much of the middle of the season, from Weeks 8–10 McCaffrey compiled seven touchdowns in three games (joining DeAngelo Williams in 2008 as the only other Panther with this distinction), including all of Carolina's scores in a 52–21 loss to Pittsburgh. On November 25, 2018, McCaffrey became the first Panther ever to have over 100 yards rushing and receiving in the same game. He had 125 yards rushing and 112 yards receiving in a loss to the Seattle Seahawks. The 237 yards set a Panthers franchise record for most yards from scrimmage in a game. He also was the first player since Arian Foster in 2011 to have 100+ yards and a touchdown both rushing and receiving, and the only player with 10+ receptions in such a game. During Week 15, in a Monday Night Football showdown against the 11–2 Saints, McCaffrey threw a 50-yard touchdown pass on 4th and 2 to Chris Manhertz. With 50 rushing, 50 receiving and 50 passing yards, he joined Walter Payton and Gale Sayers as the only others to achieve this. During Week 16 against the Atlanta Falcons, McCaffrey broke Matt Forte's record for most receptions by a running back in a single season, finishing with 101 rushing yards and 77 receiving yards as the Panthers lost 10–24.With the Panthers' eliminated from the playoffs, he had a limited role in the Week 17 victory over the New Orleans Saints with 40 total yards. Overall, he finished the 2018 season with 1,098 rushing yards, seven rushing touchdowns, 107 receptions, 867 receiving yards, and six receiving touchdowns. With the opposite of a Sophomore slump, McCaffrey became the Panthers franchise record holder of all-purpose yards in a season with 1,965

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Have sex

But you asked bro

he's decent, pro level decision making when it comes to protecting the football. that's all the redskins really want, a game manager who can make some big throws, and that's what they got. Bryce, Guice and AP are going to do the heavy lifting.

Between Murray and Metcalf

impossible due to different levels of expectations

You did ask

Chadly.

>Literally who

That's pretty awesome when a weak year for the Patriots is having the best-rated roster in the AFC and #4 in the entire NFL, even higher than the Rams (Eagles were #1)

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>white rb
>as your workhorse
Doesn't matter

I've seen his brain cooking just trying to remember the play call in Urban Meyer's "so easy even a convict or tebow could run it" offense

>Gettleman said Jones could sit behind Eli Manning for THREE YEARS which is probably just him saying stuff maybe? Giants fans should hope so -- if you spend the No. 6 overall pick on someone and they're not playing within three years because Eli is still able to trot out there in the same fashion he has for the last year or so, that's a real problem.

>Deshaun Watson is clearly a transcendent franchise quarterback, but he has to be able to stay on the field if the Texans want to win. And the offensive line was one of the worst in football last year. Can Tytus Howard come from Alabama State and be an instant-impact starter? The same question could be asked of second-round pick Max Scharping out of Northern Illinois. It's not that these were bad picks...I don't hate the picks. I just get worried about the ability of the Texans to protect Watson moving forward and the negative impact that could have on their 2019 season.

>racism
Wow, um, sweetie? Wow, just wow

bend over

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Have YOU ever actually had sex? It's terrible, they want to stick around afterwards and cuddle and the bed is too hot and also sweaty and the combined body heat is too much and the bed gets overheated and they sort of think they're you're friend now but they're not your friend. The second after you cum I'm just disgusted by them anyways but they don't want to be alone because they're needy or some other stupid made up feeling so I have to take them out for some breakfast and buy them a fucking omelet that we both know she's not going to finish and then when its over you have to get her number and promise you'll call her but we both know you're not going to call her. Why would you? You already got what you wanted out of her and the sex was mediocre at best and you wasted one of the two days a week you have free of being a wagecuck, you took your valuable free time and you fucking wasted it on some average broad when you could have paid for a hooker and had her get up and leave so I could go back to playing video games.

The only reason to have sex, and I mean LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON, is that fucking without a condom on feels pretty great. Nothing else about sex is even remotely enjoyable, not the stupid foreplay, not the cuddling, I don't even particularly enjoy getting my dick sucked anymore. I'd rather eat a burrito and watch American Dad and be left the fuck alone. No, I'm not going to marry you. No, you're not going to trick me into getting you pregnant(I've had a few women really try hard with that one), and no, you're not coming to live with me in my big empty house.

For one thing, it's my fucking house. For another thing, I like it big and empty, and lastly you're a fucking bore. Women are for the most part IMMENSELY boring. No, I'm not interested in hearing about your stupid day. No, I don't care what Sarah the intern said about your hair. No, I don't FUCKING CARE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE FEELING TODAY

NOT. FUCKING. WORTH. IT.

Autism

B&R

Lions only spent one of their first 5 picks on offense:
1st - Iowa TE T.J. Hockenson (No. 8 overall);
6th - Old Dominion WR Travis Fulgham (No. 184)
6th - Maryland RB Ty Johnson (No. 186)
7th - Georgia TE Isaac Nauta (No. 224)

>Detroit drafted a tight end in the first round for the third time in the last decade, with T.J. Hockenson (#8 overall) joining Brandon Pettigrew (#20 overall in 2009) and Eric Ebron (#10 overall in 2014) on a list that would not be described as illustrious.
>I don't necessarily dislike their picks. But I'm confused as to what their identity is moving forward. Are they going to line up three tight ends? Even if it all works out they have to do it in a division where the Packers got demonstrably better and the Vikings added one of the best centers to come out in years (Garrett Bradbury) who could ignite their running game and Dalvin Cook's one-cut, zone-running potential

Lions WRs
WR1 Kenny Golladay
WR2 Marvin Jones
Slot Danny Amendola

Todd McShay:
>“Hockenson might just be the safest, most complete prospect in the entire draft class” McShay said. “Lions fans might have cringed to see their team take a first-round tight end, remembering the letdowns of Eric Ebron and Brandon Pettigrew, but this kid brings a different level of potential. ... Expect Matthew Stafford to use his rookie big man a ton with not a lot happening in the Lions' pass game.”

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Reddit comeback. He answered your Reddit question to the T.

r8 & h8
W
W
L
L
L
W, but Marquise Brown gets injured here
L, Greg Roman gets fired here
Bye Week
L
L
L
L, crowd starts asking for McSorley
L
W, Justin Tucker basically wins this game.
L
L, Jackson gets "injured", RGIII finishes the game with a good garbage time perfomance
W, meme the Steelers out of the playoffs
5-11, Harbaugh gets the boot and Justin Tucker is the only Pro Bowl, All Pro.

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It’s a literal answer to a question that explicitly asked for a literal answer, user

If it was too much to digest at once, I sincerely apologize, but you should choose your words more carefully next time.

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Reminder

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>he thinks they are both the same because they are big body niggas.

being big and black is where the similarities end. Haskins is a pocket passer.

L for Losers.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen positive human interaction on /nfl/

oh, so he'll be Byron Leftwich?

it is because you are a faggot.

no, because he can also throw a ball.

lol theismann needs to fuck off
what a deluded cunt to think anyone would care about haskins wearing no. 7

Yeah it seems like Redskins are heading back to their roots with a strong run game with a solid defense. They are just hoping their passing game gets hot towards the end of the season so they an actually make noise in the playoffs

but he has a coconut brain

>They are just hoping their passing game gets hot towards the end of the season so they an actually make noise in the playoffs
thats not how it works though, you need run game at the end of the season

Odds Shark
@OddsShark
3h

Opening odds to be the 1st overall pick of the 2020 NFL Draft:

QB Tua Tagovailoa +250
QB Justin Herbert +350
QB Jake Fromm +400
DE Chase Young +700
DT Derrick Brown +700
WR Jerry Jeudy +900

With the Dolphins getting Rosen looks like the Tank for Tua (or Justin Herbert) will be between the Raiders (Carr) and Jags (Foles)

Maybe the Bengals or Titans too

Jets, Bills, Texans, Broncos, Cards, 49ers, Lions, Bucs, Giants, Redskins all have QBs

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imagine tanking for tua instead of trevor

FOX has this

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>Oregon QB going in the top-3
yeah because that worked so well last time

>Bucs
This presumes Jameis ends up improving under BA. If he doesn't, don't be surprised if the Bucs pick up a QB early next draft.

Trevor won't be eligible to come out until the draft after the next draft, two years from now. He just finished his true freshman season

>anyone evaluating a draft
>I think x was a bigger position of need for this team
WWTL?

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>There were handshakes, bro hugs and smiles in the draft room as the 49ers drafted Nick Bosa at No. 2 overall in the 2019 draft, but word out of San Francisco points to friction and a potential breakup of head coach Kyle Shanahan and general manager John Lynch.

>According to sources in the team's scouting and coaching staff, the two aren't in lock step as far as the vision of the offseason and the future of the franchise. The coach, Shanahan, wants to scheme and develop players while not being bothered with the player evaluation process, but more and more he finds himself involved while not trusting the decision-making of Lynch—a former media analyst after his Hall of Fame playing days but not someone with a scouting background.

>The 49ers signed both Lynch and Shanahan to five-year contracts when they were hired before the 2017 season. With three years left and a team that's been stuck in neutral ever since, a power struggle could be coming with Lynch and chief deputy Adam Peters on the outs, and Shanahan looking for his own personnel man to run the draft and free agency.

Shanahan is autistic and wants to train guys up so they can start on other teams. And Lynch fucking sucks as a talent evaluator. Lynch will be gone if there is a power struggle.

>tfw Colin cowherd is talking up your team instead of letting it stay a quiet secret that they’re getting better
8-8 incoming

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If Jags fail with Foles, there's no reason to think they will improve with a rookie QB. While Bortles was shit, he wasn't the reason the Jaguars got crushed last season. Bus have a better shot at that, people aren't happy with Winston, even tho I don't think they will start this season with a tanking mentality. Ravens will probably tank, but not for a QB.

>still no rungame
>still no receivers
8-8 is optimistic

They went 10-6 with a guy named Dontrelle Inman as their #2 receiver. Funchess is a meme but he’s still an upgrade over a no-namer.

>Ravens: First-year general manager Eric DeCosta had a nice first draft. Picking receiver Marquise Brown in the first round will pay off in a big way. I like fourth-round running back Justice Hill as well. But their best pick was third-round receiver Miles Boykin a big target who can be a big-play receiver.

>big target
You're saying he's a big guy?

Colts are one of the favorites for the AFC Championship. 8-8 would be a massive disappointment

>drafting talented wide receivers
>Lamar Jackson is your qb
Ozzie Newsome sure wouldnt have fucked that draft up

theyre going to rue the pick when he turns out to be an above average TE (not a game changer basically) and ed oliver becomes elite

>Panthers: Second-round tackle Greg Little had first-round ability. I think with a little seasoning he could develop into a Pro Bowl player.

>favorites for the AFC Championship
Okay guy, lay off the day drinking

As a colts fan I fucking hate this. This is Year 3 of a 3-year-rebuild. They overachieved last season. Ballard has set this team up to succeed for sure, but I don’t think the team will truly have its identity/click until next season.

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you guys have a talented offensive line, and a qb who sucks in the playoffs. An afc championship isnt happening as long as Brady is still there

>Bengals: Fourth-round defensive tackle Renell Wren will end up being a steal. He was miscast as a nose tackle at Arizona State, but should flourish in their defense.

Only the Patriots and Chiefs have better odds to win the AFC right now. I think it’s dumb too, but they are towards the top right now in Vegas.

>Broncos: Second-round quarterback Drew Lock will pay off big for this franchise. They will look back on the pick someday and think what a bargain he was in that round. First-round tight end Noah Fant will be a nice weapon and if Lock becomes the long-term starter – which I think he will do – they will have a heck of a draft.

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Browns or bust desu

Their draft was mediocre, but I do like Hill.

Bust

Media always trying to take down kings
Matt Miller is full of shit
He's been mad since lynch got hired with no scouting experience. What a bitch.

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fake news. This all derives from them drafting Bosa, who does not fit into the san fran culture

Too many gays there for Bosa's taste?

he's openly a trump guy and has insulted Kaepernick on twitter

Good fuck kapernick. I watched him suck at football for 3 years and act like a child when adversity came.

It hurts to be a Lions fan. A buddy of mine called it back in early November. He said they'd draft a te high and we'd all be confused by it.

Doesn't the 49ers fan base generally not like Kaep?

I'm like basically full on SJW, and have no problem with kneeling or whatever, but Kaepernick is still a fucking douche-bag.

idk, but the media over there still praises him, so I figure the media would trash Bosa and the 49ers front office.

>I'm like basically full on SJW
Classic 9ers fan

It really depends, drafting another RB after signing Ingram confirms that we're sticking to the running game this season. With Brown coming from a Lisfranc injury, it's obvious that the WRs are developmental projects for the future (aka not meant for Jackson) and not for any immediate impact.
I know they're going to suck this year, but at least it looks like they're doing the right thing in terms of rebuilding a team.

>Packers: Third-round tight end Jace Sternberger will add a nice dimension to the offense in the passing game. Aaron Rodgers will love his game.

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They gave him Jordy Nelson's number

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Le'veon Bell is slow

Shanahan will be the first zoomer coach fired.

HERE WE GO PACK-IES HERE WE GO

>Doesn't the 49ers fan base generally not like Kaep?
Normal people who watched him play do
Only people who don't are pol fags

He was supposed to be a patriot it's not fair REEEEEE

>Third-round tight end Kahale Warring has a chance to be special
>Kahale Warring to the Texans in the 3rd round. Texans just got a steal.
>The Texans got a really enticing Y-tight end with good size, very good athleticism and player who can have an impact quickly.
>
Warring is a WOW athlete with huge potential
>The Texans are SET at tight end for the next couple of years
>Best name: Kahale Warring
>Aztecs loss of highly athletic TE Kahale Warring is a big blow. He had 9 more catches than any WRs.

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That’s a fat load of bullshit. I thought Kaep sucked long before any of the kneeling stuff, and I don’t care one way or another about the kneeling.
He was just the latest incarnation “Le big inaccurate running QB” so he was god-tier for 2-3 seasons before getting figured out just like every other QB of that type.

Warring will be the second best TE from this class, I've been saying it for a while now

This, in terms of off the field stuff. A lot of people disagree on if he was a good player, but only pol autists obsessed over his political stuff.

>Chase Young is top5
lol whoever drafts him is gonna regret it, he's got no bend or pass rush moves

Derrick Brown is a monster, he's bodyslamming dudes heads into the ground.

Herbert is the best QB prospect since Luck, he's big and has elite ball placement with a cannon arm.

>Have tons of cap-space with no run game
>Let L'Bell go to the Jets

You deserve to miss the playoffs

He's going to be the first to win an owl you retard
Kaep played like shit. Couldn't generate a passing rhythm to save his life. I make better reads on vidya then that chump. He also NEVER made a pre snap read or audible. He would CONSTANTLY run a play into a buzzsaw because he wasn't equipped to make even simple run play audibles.

SF could’ve made him work but then then they had the most spectacular implosion I’ve ever seen since all those Cleveland players kept suing for staph infections

His full name is literally Kahale Kuio Kalani Michael Wodehouse Warring

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The only people I ever hear talk about that self loathing white faggot are leftist retards like you

what team do you think is going to get who

Weird, because it's really the opposite of that.

What's the better horse, bronco or colt?

And all those right wing “family value” folks that get caught liking dick after spending their political lives trying to tell people who they can have sexually in the privacy of their own lives

No kaep got spooked and started throwing even worse than before. He used to meme chuck it to keep the D a bit honest but after the pick in the NFCCG he stopped meme chucking and started staring guys down and taking awful sacks from indecision. He also had terrible chemistry with Vernon Davis and rarely checked down or passed to TEs and Vernon was arguably our best receiving option at the time and coming off a record setting TD season with smeth throwing him the ball.

Rodgers is also going to love his cute ass

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Appaloosa

as a packers fan this is easily the pick I'm most excited about
he's basically a bigger Jordy
he even got #87

>SF could’ve made him work but then then they had the most spectacular implosion I’ve ever seen since all those Cleveland players kept suing for staph infections
Chip kelly made him play with half a field and kap still couldnt get the ball out with only 2 reads

Another losing season it is then...

"Both will be *out of the league in three years* , and are designed to *fill gaps until better options open up in free agency*."

>Ftfy

>had the best draft
literally every team thinks this every year

*misses field goal*

Nobody ever gets along with Shanahan.

How does one person harbor so much delusion?

Kelce is the only one on that list...the rest are a wash. Why even mention Watkins when you know he will be a ghost for 80% of the season

Who is the GOAT undrafted WB, RB, WR, TE, CB, S AND LB

I think the biggest change we'll see from the new PI rule is an increase in OPI. It usually isn't enforced as strictly as DPI but now that you can challenge for it on review I think a lot more big plays will end up being called back

Cowboys and Vikings fans are the queens of delusion

they do not even have the top two best front seven in their division.

more likely plays that are not pass interference in real-time get called pass interference after you slow it down.

pass interference should not be called if both the receiver and the defender are fighting each other.

pony and/or mule

who had the best NFC South draft and what will the win/loss be of each NFC South team for the season?

reminder

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>/nfl/ lets this man live rent free in their skulls

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Barkley > le benched in playoff nig

He’s a good boy.

You have a dumb opinion

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>dallass
>kansass

You should update this

>leads the eagles to a 6-3 start
>gets injured
>eagles miss the playoffs because their backup sucks ass
Like pottery

It is updated

>Colts: Second-round receiver Parris Campbell can fly and he will be a force in their offense with Andrew Luck
Parris Campbell and T.Y Hilton on the same team???
>Imagine having to game plan against the speed of Parris Campbell and TY Hilton. Then worry about Funchess, Ebron, and Doyle on top of it.
>Parris Campbell- A lighting fast WR with YAC for days
>Frank Reich on adding the speedy Parris Campbell to the Colts' offense: "It’s not going to be fair."
>Parris Campbell will be an absolute YAC machine in Frank Reich's creative offense.
>Parris Campbell is a PLAYMAKER. Reich is gonna have a lot of fun with Campbell’s versatility.
>Campbell is an elusive force in the open field who can burn and break ankles, taking short tosses for big gains.
>Colts offense is looking insane: T.Y. Hilton, Devin Funchess, Parris Campbell, Deon Cain. Oh, also Eric Ebron and Jack Doyle.
>Film analysis: Colts love them some MESH. Guess what was Parris Campbell's most productive route?
>the Colts gave Andrew Luck one of the best supporting casts he’s ever had
>Parris Campbell torched the NFL Combine at Lucas Oil Stadium. Campbell's 4.31 speed is coming to the Colts' turf alongside 4.34 T.Y. Hilton. Good luck stopping that
>Urban Meyer on new Colts WR Parris Campbell: 'He's a 'Percy Harvin talent' who can do it all
>The more tape I watch, the more I think that I was wrong about Parris Campbell. I thought he comped well to Percy Harvin when in reality, Percy Harvin is his floor. Dude can legitimately be the Colts future 1,200-1,400 yards weapon
>Colts got a steal in Parris Campbell at No. 59

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>implying Nate Godfeld can't lead the team in Carson's absence

You have a very interesting imagination

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SAINTS AND BEARKEKS BTFO

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I’d give up if I were a Saints fan. They smell cursed like those Vikings and Bills teams.

>jackson fucked up our streak of winning at least one game in the playoffs
0/10

>5117 feet tall
Impressive

not an argument

Neither is your statement. Which is why it was so easy to dismiss it out of hand.

based

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Gingers are looked down upon everywhere.

The men at least, If you could call them that.

>Pittsburgh
forever paper tigers as long as they keep roethlisberger there, fortunately for them, the team is in the best position to draft a top QB and succeed.
>Packers
No amount of refball can put them back in the playoffs. Only way to consider them contenders is if every single player drafted this year were starter material.
>49ers
In paper, they should be higher. Considering their starting QB is coming from an injury, they shouldn't even be there.
Agree with the rest.

Yellow is a toss up, although leaning towards a win, but a loss is also just as likely.

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>The Colts return all its starters off of a 10-6 playoff team last year. They added DE Justin Houston, WR Devin Funchess, and FB Spencer Ware in FA, and had a great draft. Watch out for the Colts this year

definitely winning against baltimore just by throwing slants or abusing the TE-MLB matchups

>Going 10-6 in the AFC South
>Acting like this is supposed to make a team contender worthy

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Matt Miller BTFO
49ers finna yuh. Based Shanny.

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with what TEs?

idk, convert that thor looking guy to TE, it's not like we have MLBs anyways

That or you use N'Keal Harry there, since he basically is the same size (not the same build though) as a Tight End.

>height 5117
How can manlets even compete?

OROY picks

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RB by default. AP loves to suck them off when it comes to ROY.

He's a lot taller than TY Hilton (5094 or 5-9)

you have very poor roster evaluation

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Deebo and it won't be close. Niners building a nice receiving corp around route running gods who can YAC YAC YAC

Packers wanted him but when they had him in for a pre-Draft visit, Rodgers was drooling and fawning over him like schoolgirl so badly they had to take him off the board because he'd be too big of a distraction

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Tell me why you consider Steelers, Packers and 49ers contenders.

youtu.be/rsg7HfKIsco
Derp

Hockensen will be a huge bust

this dude sucks

1500 yds
12 tds

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steelers will be tough to predict, but they have a good system in an easy enough division. less likely of the three
the only unproven starter for the packers is at free safety. they have plenty talent and a proven franchise QB
niners have a very solid front and a scheme that gets a lot out of offense players. the rest of the division will regress
its really not that hard to figure out

philadelphia e/a/gles

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true, but the steelers and packers pretty much had all of that and still failed to make the playoffs, granted there was a lot of distraction for the steelers, but Cleveland is now there to probably win the division. Not to mention other AFC teams probably got stronger.
The one I'm willing to give you are the 49ers, considering they looked decent with every backup they used last season. Still, Garop needs to stay healthy.

Colts/Patriots AFC Championship this season will be one of the best ever. Patriots D keeps it close into the 4th Quarter then Andrew Luck blows up cementing his new status as the GOAT. Brady announces his retirement after the game and tells Luck that he moving to Indy and is going to be his #1 fan

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>this amount of delusion
Based Delusional Colts fan

who's going to stop >us.
Haven't lost a single starter and Reich has a full year to implement his scheme and players

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>Eagles: Second-round running back Miles Sanders has a chance to be a 1,200-yard runner in a year or two. He has that type of ability.

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Cleveland winning the division is kinda Laughable when literally everyone in their division has gotten their shit together and look serious. I do smell wildcard shenanigans though.

No more Marvin Lewis. The Steelers have buckled down and tossed out the cancer and the rapper wannabe and I know this board despises black QBs but he’s only getting better and the ravens aren’t a 1D offence anymore. Not when they make the picks they’re making. It’s a competitive conference for once in our lifetimes, that’s for sure.

I don't think a TE has ever gotten rookie of the year

I see @eagles a more likely loss than @ravens
I give Pederson and Wentz a much better shot against BB than anyone and Jackson

Does drafting Sanders mean they're not bringing D. Sproles back?

I'll believe the Ratbirds aren't a 1d offense when I see it, but I do think the Browns are putting the cart before the horse on winning the division and progressing through playoffs

>colts o-line

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Eagles at the Linc will be tough

I think the steelers will be motivated and feast on the ravens and bengals. dont think theyre likely to make the playoffs though
packers really beefed up their front and added starting safeties, the two biggest roster holes last year. I like the direction of run game and disguuse to set up easier third downs and play action rhythm on offense
I also dont think an ACL is indicitive of future injuries given the time he had to heal

Don't buy the Ravens draft as an indication of making the offense more vertical. Baltimore had playmakers last season, problem was the playcalling and Harbaugh is still there, Greg Roman is their OC, Jackson is probably going to run the ball more than ever, it makes no sense bringing Roman if they aren't planning to do so.
Roethlisberger is as much of a cancer as Brown and Bell were. But surely, they shouldn't have the same amount of distractions.
Cleveland should easily win it on paper, but they're gonna work with new personnel, so who knows.
Bengals are the only ones I don't know shit about.

>3 injured starters
Mack's gonna dab 180 on ya

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Only reason why I gave the patriots the wind is because of the fact that its mid-November, and the Patriots are usually at their best at that point in the season. Away games are really a crap shoot to predict for the Patriots, because they can get some meme road losses, so I don't rule out that any of those road games won't just flip to being losses..

The AP one always goes to a RB or QB with the occasional WR

The fan-choice one went to TE in 2002: Jeremy Shockey (the year the AP gave it to Clinton Portis)

Literally who?

That's what I meant about the Packers. I can only see them as contenders if every player drafted this year contributed immediately and significantly. Keep in mind the Bears were a nice surprise to everyone and Minnesota can spoil everyone's season even if they don't exactly make the playoffs. I don't rule them out, I just think other teams pose more of threat in terms of contending.

Fucking love Cowherd’s constant shilling for >us, what a based boomer

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My favorite team is going 9-7 and missing the playoffs.

It’s just clockwork, everyone says they’re gonna be duds at season start, they get worse until the last leg of the season and Feed of their garbage division,combing that score in order to secure their playoff buy, and then they pick apart teams in the playoffs.

I’m done doubting. I’m done hating. If the patriots could make idiots out of a stacked teams while looking like hot garbage against memes like the dolphins, there’s no hope.

cuz he likes white QBs.

Yup. Thems the breaks when it comes to the NFC south.

That doesn’t seem right then because he put the cowboys instead of the giants.

Hot take: Mixon is the best RB from that class and will prove it by only getting better every year.

did you miss when the packers signed 3 B grade starters with no injury history (and a somewhat unknown guard). The ONLY starter they drafted was safety, and maybe guard if he wins training camp. Everybody else is immediately depth

There is no way the Vikings kill it in the regular season and not choke spectacularly in the playoffs. Just not physically possible.

>haha look how bad the o-line was in the first third of last season when the team was still getting used to a new coach, coordinators and system
>please ignore that even with that horrific first six weeks it wound up giving up the fewest sacks in the NFL as it got significantly better by the end of the season

Yes, and I say I can see them contend if those players actually have an immediate impact. We have seen lots of promising players never live to their expectations.
I'm willing to be proven wrong, in the meantime I just don't see them contending over other teams.

Literally the best division last season according to that turboautist Patriots fan that spent his entire free time crunching numbers on every division’s strength each year since realignment

>Don't buy the Ravens draft as an indication of making the offense more vertical. Baltimore had playmakers last season

I'm no fan of the Ravens, Flacco or Lamar, but the Ravens had dogshit at WR last year

This time last year I was ragging on the Ravens for taking TE Hayden Hurst at #25 with Calvin Ridley still on the board (he went at #26), pointing out: "a 25-year-old rookie, Hurst is raw and old for a prospect," and writing:

WR/TE was a huge need, as all they have is:
>age 30 Crabtree as the #1, John Brown who has been nothing for the last 2 years on a 1 year prove it deal for $5M, Willie Snead on a 2-year $7 contract after doing nothing last year and being cut by a team with a need at WR, Breshad "The Bust" Perriman and two terrible TEs.

And now, looking back on 2018, all the Ravens had at WR was:
Ravens WRs last year:
>715 yds - John Brown (age 29)
651 yds - Willie Snead (age 27 in Oct)
>607 yds - Crabtree (age 31)
196 yds - Chris Moore (age 26 in June)

Michael Crabtree was cut and John Brown just left via Free Agency (to the Bills)

2018 Raven TEs
552 yards -- Mark Andrews, age 23 in Sept (3rd Round last year out of Oklahoma)
213 yards -- Nick Boyle, age 26 (5th Round, 2015 out of Delaware)
163 yards -- Hayden Hurst, age 26 in Aug (1st Round last year out of South Carolina)
143 yards -- Maxx Williams, age 25 (2nd Round, 2015 out of Minnesota)

You need to keep in mind how Brown was doing with Flacco vs Jackson, also how Perriman managed to make key plays for the Browns. Harbaugh was been shit at developing WRs, it's no wonder our best receivers have been veteran FA acquisitions.
In all honesty, last year was probably the most talented group of WRs since Boldin/Smith

cringe but redpilled

>give yourself the option of labeling games as "toss ups"
>don't use that label for games that you then call toss ups
Huh...

I normally agree with Colin Cowherd, but I think that Nick Foles is going to do better than 6-10 with the jags. Why do people consistantly underrate Foles?

Because the label doesn't apply. I think that they can win against the Eagles, but I think that there is a small chance for it to turn into a meme game where they lose, just like what happened with some of their road games last year. Labeling all road games as toss-ups because of this just doesn't make sense, especially when I am trying to predict a teams record.

Instread of arguing that the Ravens had good WRs last year (they were probably the worst in the NFL), i would argue that, although Hollywood and Miles Boykin might be great on paper, its usually not until Year 2 that you expect rookies to adapt to the League, so having two rookies to go with just one WR back from last year (Snead) isn't ideal. But maybe they ball out year 1, we shall see...

his only good years were with philly
he was shit with the rams and irrelevant with the chiefs

@Chargers - L
@Titans - W
Falcons - L
Raiders - W
@Chiefs - L
BYE (earliest I remember Indy getting one in a very long time)
Texans - W
Broncos - W
@Steelers - L
Dolphins - W
Jags - W
@Texans - W
Titans - W
@Bucs - W
@Saints - L
Panthers - L
@Jags - L

9-7
Why the fuck do all these talking heads hype us up so much?

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That lisfranc injury has me worried. Jimmy Smith has never recovered from that shit.

at this point >we've all accepted it's not happening
at least there's always 2009

Jeff Fisher was like the worst HC of all time.

>trade off picks to move up and get our Jewish qb
>o Line and coaching is trash, fire coach and oc
>play cards horribly and trade a 10th overall pick to the lolphins for a 2nd rounder
But the worst of all
>hiring a no name losing record coach
>drafting meme qb who will quit for baseball in 2 years

My GM is notoriously stupid. It's hard being a retardinals fan sometimes

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that didnt stop mcnair from playing well

on the bright side, there's no chance they'll keep him after murray quits

McNair is the true GOAT and nobody will ever convince me otherwise. Only QB to ever play well under Fisher

Are the Browns still going after Gerald McCoy?

For total damage Fisher did over so many seasons, maybe yeah. Other coaches have definitely been worse in smaller samples. It's literally impossible to be worse than Chuck Pagano

>It's literally impossible to be worse than Chuck Pagano
Chuck was a bad coach for sure but he was set up to fail with Ryan Grigson’s ansolutelt dogshit roster-building.
t. Coltsfag

I would rather have a Chip Kelly who fucks things up then leaves than a Jeff Fisher who ruins everything and sticks around forever.

Tomsula?

So in 2015, when he was a sports editor for his high school paper The Bullis Bulldog, Dwayne Haskins (17 year old high school student at the time)...

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...successfully predicted that Redskins may would to draft a 1st-round QB by 2020, which ended up being him lol

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Tomsula did literally nothing. He was just a fall guy.

Oh ya. He’s sporting all kinds of silverware.

Would unironically have won 10 Lombardi’s with any other coach

That’s adorable

This grammar is what I would expect from a 17 year old football player.

>dark skinned people think tua is going #1 overall
you guys realize there are actual white humans in the next draft right.
pineapple niggers and pavement apes only go 1st when there arent any homo sapiens to actually compete with in the throwy showy position

Tua isn’t black, he’s a dark skinned Italian

Barkley didn't even make the playoffs you fucking tool

Rookies should not be valued over established players

>prioritizing protection for Deshaun Watson was absolutely essential after he got sacked 62 times and hit 133 times last year. This represents the most sacks a quarterback has endured since Jon Kitna with 63 in 2006.

>so at No. 23 overall, the Texans selected OT Tytus Howard, a small-school prospect from Alabama State, a HBC with 5,475 students that plays in the SWAC. He was the first person in Alabama State school history to be selected in the 1st Round

>Howard now has to make the leap from Alabama State to the pros and help improve the team's O-line issues immediately, or Watson might not last far into the season.

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BeliBASED

>pats when they start slow
Holy fuck, this.
Fire Belichick, bench Brady...
Fuck off already.

The Clops are a meme.

Fuck off, autist

>This team is stupid, Mike I'm tellin ya! They're done. They're done! We're in week 8 and they've given me no reason to pick them over Kansas City
>S-T-O-O-P-I-D. Stoo. Pid.

I can already feel it.

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Rude

>ESPN’s Mel Kiper said yesterday the Colts had the best draft in the NFL, so good that it will propel them into the 2019 season’s Super Bowl.

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Fucking this desu
>even with entering the 99 AFCCG with these stats
>still shit on the Jasg

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>For the first time in many years, this is a Colts team that doesn’t have a glaring hole somewhere. They’re young, they’re talented, they’re deep and they’re well-coached and disciplined.

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Mel kiper also said the raiders are winning the AFC West. Cant trust a single thing that retard says

One of the biggest reaches in the draft

My face when the Colts new trackstar duo is literally Paris-Hilton

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We're going 11-5 and are going to make it to the NFCCG

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>the entire world of sports media has united to anoint the colts the superbowl favorites

dear god I cant wait for them to go 6-10 already
they play in the weakest division in football
all they have to do is be the least retarded team in the AFCS and they get an automatic playoff bid
and they cant even get that right.

holy shit the colts are gonna get BTFO this year. like every other year.
I mean andrew luck has reached the playoffs plenty. but he has also allowed mariota, bortles and watson to reach the playoffs plenty.
I mean dear god werent the texans winning that division every other year with literal who's at QB? how does a tom savage led team win the division?

colts are like the dolphins. they are repeat offseason champs that just get hyped up all day on the news until the regular season starts and they dont even go 8-8.

I don't like agreeing with you. Change your opinion immediately.

Chill, mang.

RIP to the great BALTIMORE Colt Geno Marchetti

>draft happens
>nobody talks about the Browns anymore
All going according to plan...

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Forgot pic

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Colts players belong to Indianapolis. Old Browns players belong to Baltimore.

Mike has been let out of the cage.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZqUtM3ML4Jk

Doesnt work that way, sorry, not sorry

Honestly feel like the Colts make it to the Superbowl in the next two years. Team is looking good. Young, fast, tough.

well I mean I get the hype. they have had 4 star drafts the past few years. no big weaknesses. lots of upside.
but just give me a fucking break. this team is all star on paper sure. but they are king retards in the retard division.
at this point Im almost positive if you put the lions in the AFCS they would have taken the division 7 out of the last 10 years.

on paper the colts are studs. until you take a longer look.
RBs are all garbage.
WR's would all be WR2 or WR3's on real teams.
TE is okay.
Luck doesnt really produce fireworks. he's joe flacco without the dragons or balls to throw them.
Pass rush looks like it would be ranked in the 30's
>muh darius leonard
yeah cool. thats enough I guess.

fucking vinateri is the only thing I actually believe in on that team. him and the interior O line. not even the entire O line. just the interior guys.

Regarding our Browns:
Outside of the Patriots, the team I fear the most in the AFC is the Colts I think they got better this off season on both sides of the ball, while the Chiefs took a step back

Yes it does. Cleveland has nothing and will always have nothing. As a ravens fan, you should agree.

No, it doesnt work that way sweetie.

How the fuck are the Colts going to lose to the Panthers & Jags?

Rebuild's nearly done.

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the same way they lose to the titans?
just a fucking empty gas tank the entire 2nd half while they get run all over and shut down every fucking snap on both sides of the ball after looking like a competent team for the 1st half.

How did the draft stack up against Superstar Shakedown?

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Who's your UDFAifu?

Mine's Jay-Tee Tiuli. Strong and fast DT who would've been drafted had he not slapped his brother's shit in outside of a burger joint and disqualified himself from the FCS Natty

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The only shakedown I've heard about was when your mom couldn't get you to stop crying as a baby

tier insult tbqh, apply yourself

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on my team?
still hercules mata'afa from last year.
from this year? surprisingly jake browning.

my real UDFAifu?
chase hansen went to the saints
he was my favorite.
a few others went to teams with pretty good drafts.
andrew wingard went to the jags I think
terrel hanks went somewhere.
alex bars went to the bears.

Gerald Willis.

He was by far the best undrafted player this year.

AFC Power Rankings: Where Does the AFC Stand After the 2019 NFL Draft?

1. Patriots
2. Chargers
>The 2019 iteration of the Los Angeles Chargers may well be the franchise's best team in a good long while.
3. Indianapolis Colts
>The Colts have a chance to blossom into the league's best team
4. Cleveland Browns
>Cleveland Browns GM John Dorsey is trying to set a speed record for turning an NFL tomato can into a contender.
5. Kansas City Chiefs
>it was an ugly March/April for Kansas City. The AFC West is the Chargers' division now
6. Jacksonville Jaguars
>the Jags appear ready to compete again
7. Houston Texans
>The Houston Texans were the AFC South champions in 2018 and remain a dangerous team in many respects
8. Pittsburgh Steelers
>Pittsburgh remains a dangerous team
9. Buffalo Bills
>the team appears substantially better now. They're well-positioned to make a playoff run if Allen can continue to improve in 2019."
10. Baltimore Ravens
If the Ravens can still get pressure on opposing quarterbacks this year despite their losses and Jackson improves as a passer, the Ravens will be a force to be reckoned with in their division.
11. Tennessee Titans
>Tennessee's pass rush was hit hard by roster attrition in the offseason. And that wideout group still features more questions than answers.
12. Denver Broncos
>the addition of Joe Flacco is at best a minor upgrade at quarterback over Case Keenum. A wide receiver position that was once a strength is now a potential weakness outside Emmanuel Sanders. And Denver did nothing to get better at inside linebacker.
13. New York Jets
>question marks remain—the biggest among them a pass rush that has very little in the way of edge-rushing talent. The Jets have positioned young quarterback Sam Darnold to get better in 2019, but it's going to be another year or two before this team has any legitimate shot at contending for a playoff spot. But hey...new uniforms!
14. Oakland Raiders
15. Cincinnati Bengals
16. Miami Dolphins

>Cowherd is picking a team led by Aaron Rodgers to win their division
what the fuck is going on

Just 2-3 more years left

>the Ravens will be a force to be reckoned with in their division.

You mean the division the won last year? Also dont think Suggs is as big of a loss as people are making it, he did nothing after week 10 last year. Judon is the far superior player at this point.

>Jackson improves as a passer
That's a big if. The kid is going to keep running until he injures himself out of the league.

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I feel bad for Freddie Kitchens, because he's a good coach who's been positioned as a fall guy by Dorsey

Wrong. One more year. And we'll still make the playoffs.

I graduated high school so I dont understand your reference.

>there are people in this thread right now that are STILL falling for the browns meme

Dorsey isn't Hue Jackson. Kitchens ran an offense that produced a rookie qb that threw more tds than any rookie qb in history. Dorsey isn't the type of GM to hire a guy to fail because the Haslam's said the decisions would be his alone, it's Dorsey's ass if this doesn't work out.

>Jamaal Charles will be signing a one-day contract to retire as a member of the #Chiefs.

FUCKING BASED

Literally who?

>thinking offensive records matter in 2019

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You HAVE to be over 18 to use 4channel.

>5. Kansas City Chiefs
>>it was an ugly March/April for Kansas City. The AFC West is the Chargers' division now

>Chiefs had best draft in AFCW filling literally all the holes that >DOMESTIC ABUSE and >KICKING BITCHES filled, ontop of adding pieces to our defense. "Ugly march/april" Bitch, CHIEFS DRAFTED BETTER THAN THE CHARGERS LMAO, LA BOOOLTS.

Honestly HOOOLY FUCK, the chargers fans delusions. Mahomes is gonna be the best QB in the AFCW, Rivers is gonna choke in Key games giving the division to KC, and it's going to be a routine year.

God. Your ignorance is insufferable.

4× Pro Bowl (2010, 2012–2014)
2× First-team All-Pro (2010, 2013)
Second-team All-Pro (2012)
NFL rushing touchdowns leader (2013)
BCS national champion (2005)
Big 12 Offensive Freshman of the Year (2005)
First-team All-Big 12 (2007)
Second-team All-Big 12 (2005)
NFL record 5.4 career yards per carry for a running back

Another talent on a long list of names that circle arrowhead stadium that the Chiefs have squandered.

Odds Shark
@OddsShark
7h

Opening odds to make the AFC Playoffs:

Patriots -800
Chiefs -450
Colts -260
Chargers -225
Browns -140
Steelers EVEN
Texans +150
Ravens +175
Jets +300
Titans +350
Jaguars +350
Bills +400
Broncos +400
Raiders +500
Bengals +600
Dolphins +1000

>old fag doesn't know a 2000 song
confirmed zoomer

>Routine year under Andy Reid
Choking in the championship game, then?

meme back that had a few good seasons

Excuse me man, Andy Reid is at least due for another choking in the SB to match the one he had with the eagles.

you were watching the disney channel when he played

/Bills Owl 2020/

>he didn't play Madden in the mid-to-late-00's
Literally one of two bright spots on that era of the chiefs

When Brady retires, the Browns/Bills/Chiefs/Colts free for all in the AFC is going to be kino as hell

AFC
1. Pats
2. Chargers
3. Steelers
4. Colts
5. Chiefs
6. Texans.

Who's the best GM in the NFL?

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Was he the most underrated RB of the past 20 years

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The free for all to reach the AFCC to face Stidham in Foxboro?

Patriots
Browns
Colts
Chiefs
Bills
Chargers

Your ravens dick sucking gets old.

Ray Rice was shit. He had one good play and was nothing but a bell cow game clock manager.

He was completely rated. He was just overshadowed by whoever was on the Steelers at the time. I'd say Mendenhall and the next 2 literal whos are the only guys he was better than in direct comparison

>playing madden

Interesting opinions. Wrong and uniformed, but interesting never the less.

>the mid-to-late-00's
Charles didn't have a breakout year until 2009, so it sounds like you're full of shit or confusing him with Priest Holmes.

He was literally Forte but way worse

Rice was the best dual threat back since Roger Craig

Rice was way better than Forte

Chiefs are done

lol

John GX Dorsey

in 2 years it will be mayock. in 8 years it will still be mayock.

T. Small-minded

Rice was maybe the 5th or 6th best running back every year of his career

I have a lot of respect for Mayock, brainlets dont realize he was such a good analyst because he was a player and scout before moving to broadcasting. I'm just worried that Gruden will override him on stuff and he'll be left with the blame.

Name 5 or 6 RBs better than Rice every year since he became a starter. Only in 2013 can you do that.

youtube.com/watch?v=eaWdRLuqfYY
watch the first minute
>your mom will never announce your strip sack by name

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/nfl/ is comparing RBs to forte, rice and charles in a derogatory sense

because ray rice, forte and charles werent incredible RBs that were drafted in every single 1st round of fantasy drafts for years and years
I fucking hate you zoomers some times

and in what way is ray rice underrated?
he was 1st overall in fantasy boards. arian foster got magazine covers and espn segments just based off that.

half of the people live in a world where forte, rice and charles were mediocre RBs. the other half lives in a world where they were unsung workhorses that never got the recognition they deserved. I just dont get it. why dont any of you have an accurate view of these football players?

How do I listen to goatherd bros? Do I need cable or can I watch on YouTube

He has a podcast

>needs talent to complete roster
>have a gorillion cap space
>gets outbid by a few million
>trades out of the first
>muh value
too weak willed

why respond to my post if you didn't even read it? are you mentally ill?

You realize there’s another 5 TEs on the Pats roster right?

>Colts beating the Pats in the playoffs
Lmao

>fantasy football

Zoomer spotted

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>2009
Chris Johnson, MJD, Steven Jackson, All Day, Cedric Benson
>2010
Arian Foster, Charles Johnson, MJD, All Day, Michael Turner, Steven Jackson, Ahmed Bradshaw
>2011
Alright, fair enough. Pretty great season
>2012
Alfred Morris, All Day, Beast Mode, Jamaal Charles, Doug Martin, Arian Foster
>2013
Shady, Beast Mode, Fattie Lacy, Forte, All Day
>2014
Video cameras

Stop making me feel self-conscious by having opinions I agree with.

For 2010 I meant Jamaal Charles and and Chris Johnson, not Charles Johnson kek

Are you retarded? Seriously?

Please, take your shot instead of just saying vapid insults

Ray Rice was a better dual threat back than all of them

>implying you have to get receiving yards to be a good running back
Stop ruining the AFC north

Ray Rice was a great runner and reciever

Stop trying to shit up >our thread, old gay

And all of the guys I listed were better than him on the given year, except for Bradshaw which was me being contrarian

No they were not.

Ray Rice is very good, but never great. He's like if Frank Gore kicked a woman in a fit of baby rage and had his career halved

Reggie Bush gets way too much shit.

Frank Gore will finish his career a top 3 all time RB bare minimum you dolt

Not to mention the fact that Gore spent most of his career on inept teams.

Its because some people don't value versatility in a RB HOF suffers from this too. 2k rushing season? Here's your jacket 1k rush/1k receiving fuck you Roger Craig you only rushed for a thousand yards
>but I generated as much offense as those other backs
I said fuck off we only value rushing in Half Backs cuz that's how the veer was run in the 50s

Yup. And teams that were throwing because they were ALWAYS down late in games and had NO offense. Growing up watching Gore play man I can tell you he had absolutely no business putting up those consistent thousand yard seasons. He basically would just break 100 yards in the first half of the game and then get relegated to pass pro (which he's excellent at best maybe ever) for the entire 3rd and 4th quarter while we let Dilfer and JT O'Sullivan try to throw their way back into the game lmao it was pathetic.

Gore will always be my favorite player all time. He was the only reason I kept watching as a kid the nanners were so fucking terrible.

Out of all the QBs drafted I like Haskins the most but he has some character concerns. I don't like that he openly hates watching film. He has the potential to be good but I do not think the Redskins have what it takes to get the best out of him. I bet that no qb from this draft will be successful.

>I don't like that he openly hates watching film.
I thought that was Murray?

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For me, it's Deion Sanders.

If that was Murray I apologize. Why would anybody who doesn't need a quarterback IMMEDIATELY not pick up Haskins. The Cards could have trotted out Rosen for a couple more seasons while they developed Haskins and built up their Oline. Picking Murray was a terrible move.

Because this organization is shit and destined to fail.

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haskins has tons of red flags for a QB
>high melanin levels
>raised in an urban environment
>unable to have his hair cut with only scissors
>56% more likely to draw a flag as a QB despite only being 12% of QBs population
>asked the buckeyes to rewrite the playbook with lucky charms symbols because X's and O's are still dem white folks smart ass lettahs bullshit
Id be concerned about his ability to play QB. a power forward? a WR? maybe. but not QB.
I mean I had buddy who had a parrot. it would squawk "whats up dipshit" when you walked into a room.
that doesnt mean I go down to the park and ask pigeons for financial advice before filing my taxes.

NEW

I am not a huge fan of black people but the point of the game is to win and Haskins was the best qb in the draft.

[spoiler]he's not wrong[/spoiler]

Bill Belichick