HOLY SHIT GUYS I THINK I JUST SHOT SAUL CLENELO ALVAREZ
I was duck hunting with some friends (none of us are spics btw) in Mexico when we came across this one duck. I shot at it and clipped its wing. Strangely it started shrieking out a bird call I've never heard before. It sounded like " ADA LAID ADALAIIID". I don't know, guess it was calling out to another bird for help? Anyway, we walked up to after it collapsed and were about to finish it when it weakly gasped " Ples jus don take me to Senor Golobkeen, estoy muy asustado".
You just proved yourself wrong in that whole statement. Canelo has eaten the same food for years and never failed a test, then he did for trace amounts. That refutes what you just stated about him knowing where his food comes from. I never said all beef in Mexico was contaminated, but some of it is. And Canelo, despite eating this beef his entire career, never failed a test but suddenly he did. That literally proves the contamination of clenbuterol is existent in the market and if anything adds to the case that it was accidental consumption.
Also, it's not like Canelo doesn't out in restaurants during camp. He had dinner with Bill Clinton in Guadalajara so there's no reason why the contamination couldn't have occurred then and I'm sure there are multiple other incidents where it could've occurred.
Eli Morgan
Problem is not him juicing, butt testing positive.
Dylan Smith
I don't know about Joshua having exemptions specifically but a lot of them do this. When Wilder vs Ortiz was scheduled for November 2017 it was cancelled over Ortiz blood pressure medication
Even still. It's his responsibility to make sure these substances aren't ingested. Stop defending this drug cheat
Brandon Russell
Zuffa/Matchroom link up is the only way to get white America to care
Ayden King
He should have been banned for at least a year but the problem is everyone is cheating and the sanctioning bodies know it so don't want to set a tough precedent in case a star fucks up as Canelo did
Can you not read? Also, that's a three year old article from when Canelo was at Super welterweight. Why would his diet be the exact same? Do you expect Canelo to record and have every meal/snack he consumes analysed by a group of scientist to ensure it doesn't accidentally contain clenbuterol. And yet you still insist on calling him a drug cheat even though I've refuted every point you've made. There's no point responding to me anymore since its clear you're just a hater and you never had any intention of having and open mind during this entire discussion.
He didn't get banned because he didn't have enough clebuterol in his system to show it affected his performance. You guys could really do yourselves a favour and read a news article every now and again.
Leo King
I doubt Dana knows who Hearn is, he probably thinks he a fan wanting a photo
Benjamin Hall
Based. I bet life would be so much easier if we were all a simpleton like you.
had my first boxing lesson today. why is correctly balancing your feet and hips when punching so hard bros? right now it feels like it would take me forever to figure it out
Jason Morales
He was in training when he tested postive. Stop defending a drug cheat
Lincoln Jenkins
>3 year old article from when he was super welterweight 2 years from when he got caught and he was already a middle weight champion. Did you already forget how he dropped his belt to duck GGG?
Cooper Gutierrez
I didn't realize the point of the drug test wasn't to test for drugs, it was just a prerequisite for making a convincing argument as to why he failed it. Thanks for shedding some light on that
Anthony Ortiz
No the fuck "we" don't, speak for yourself you British faggot.
Aaron Jenkins
He's not a drug cheat. I've already argued why he isn't, you haven't come up with a single valid response. Stop wasting my time.
>ignore everything ever and keep believing what I want to
Absolutely based. Life must be so simple for you, brainlet.
Samuel Rodriguez
>puts on ungodly amounts of muscle in months >fucks off to Mexico and claims to know nothing about their well publicized and documented “””tainted meat””” issue >”””lipomas””” all over his body >fails the first two drug tests he has when coming back, in microdosing amounts
Unlikely to happen though, for a couple years anyways. UFCs biggest competitor and a company they actively dislike in Bellator has a big DAZN deal that’s apparently doing well for both parties.
He got caught with a performance enhancing drug in his system. We have no way of knowing whether he intentionally did it so if miller is a drug cheat so is Saul.
Either way he had a banned substance pumping through his veins. Just cause he "didn't know" doesnt excuse the fact that he was currently cheating. If he wanted to truly erase all possibility like a clean athlete should, he should avoided beef tacos if beef is contaminated to help athletes in mexoco
Nathaniel Ward
UFC are partnered with DAZN in other markets but it wouldn't have made sense in the US when it was a start up without the reach. Even if UFC is with ESPN long term in the US they could still run Zuffa Boxing separately, the only way into the game is to work with other promoters
God I'll never forget how funny it was when you guys for BTFO so hard that time. For months you kept giggling to yourselves about how "small" Canelo supposedly looked, using grainy black and white photos as comparison. And how Golovkin was gonna stop him this time since he was off his PEDs. Then he came out on fight night looking the exact same as always and gave Golovkin a whooping. You all ran away from the board for a week never to be seen hahahaha.
Just stop. Just stop wasting my fucking time with these roundabout arguments. Go find me an insulin needle with HGH, EPO and Endurobol in excessive amounts.
Nathan Gray
>whooped bumlovkin >Barely won a MD with a 1 round pt differential against a 36 year old man
kek
Matthew Morales
It's not hard, you're just not used to it. It's pretty natural. It's like asking how do you throw a ball without falling off? How do tennis players serve without going head first to the ground? Shadowbox daily, you'll get used to it soon.
Carson Young
>for months i was strawmanning this imaginary bullshit in my head Cool story. He put unnatural amounts of size in an unnatural amount of time
You seem pretty arbitrary on what circumstantial evidence you want to believe
Aaron Baker
Ignore the miller analogy if it hurts your head paddy.
The fact that Saul had a banned substance in his bloodstream makes him a cheater, regardless of whether he "knew" which we can't even determine aside from common sense that a multimillion dollar athlete in training wouldn't eat shit street mexican beef.
Stop defending a drug cheat
Jacob Bell
>we’re incredibly careful with what we eat except with Bill Clinton in Guadalajara
Clinical Delusion
Brayden Morgan
Whoa whoa not too many posts at a time, I can already tell his brain is working on overdrive
Asher Richardson
>supposedly took PEDs in the first fight >was clean in the rematch, looked the exact same physically and performed even better than the first time
How does that one work out? Isn't the whole purpose of PEDs to enhance your performance? Yet they have the opposite affect on Canelo?
It's all so tiresome. I have to go to sleep now, I can waste anymore time on this pointless discussion. You'll never change no matter how wrong you are. I look forward to proving you wrong yet again when you start this pointless debate again in a couple months time
William Adams
>He has to make 10 different posts to make a point This is was insecurity looks like.
Caleb Brown
>he didn't get caught with clenbuterol twice he must be clean Do you still believe in Santa Claus?
Blake Wilson
Oh wait, before I go
>ignore the Miller analogy
The cherry on the cake. You literally just admitted you are wrong and can't defend that point anymore.
Carter Cox
Does it really matter if Canelo popped for Clen? In the end it doesn't matter, because he won, and will continue winning, no matter how much you Golovtards cry.
You retard. Can you not really see I was making the miller analogy to highlight your hypocrisy in believeing canelo didn't cheat yet immediately assuming Miller did even though they both failed drug tests? We all know clenelo is a drug cheat user
>supposedly is my strawman Why do you keep doing this? He also clearly put on more mass
>How does that one work out? Isn't the whole purpose of PEDs to enhance your performance? Yet they have the opposite affect on Canelo? Huh? I can barely understand your arguments between the strawmen and contradictions. You just said he performed better the second time but are saying thats NOT how PEDs work? Are you drunk
>It's all so tiresome That’s because you’re stupid and are dodging every single actual point with some fanfiction headcanon word salad
>have to go to sleep now, I can waste anymore time on this pointless discussion. That’s my excuse too when I get BTFO
>You'll never change no matter how wrong you are Oh right, if its not you, its wrong. I’ll await you crawling back from the job center to cry about your wet dream muse being persecuted on Yea Forums tomorrow
Carson Jackson
can you think anything stupider to call your network than “DAZN”? Fucking really? “Da zone”?
What kind of boomer retard came up with and successfully pitched this 90s bullshit jargon name?
1:13am. AJ is left to his thoughts to slowly realise that if Ruiz pulls out of the fight under Haymon orders, the antagonist of his nightmares will become a reality
>be in your prime >shamelessly duck for years >come in roided to the gills >get walked down the entire fight going life or death >still needed the judges help >against a 35 year old B U M U M
Golovtards have gotten desperate. Your guy got beat in the ring, so now you cling to a drug test from over a year ago, a drug test that could easily be from tainted meat, a positive test for a drug that doesn't even help much.
Fact is, Canelo beat him, and those are Canelo's belts now. Golovkin will never get them back, Canelo won and history will always remember it as his victory.
saying it's still canelos fault on the off chance it was really beef is a really stupid argument, no athlete is that careful
Aiden Evans
For me it's Mike McCallum
Owen Jones
>Beef in mexico is contaminated with peds >During training on the cusp of the most important fight of his career, it's too hard for a multimillionaire athlete in a sport which requires serious dedication to diet, can't go without beef for a couple of months or can't properly source his meat
Has anyone ever met a boxer in real life? I've met some middleweights before and was surprised at how small they looked, not just in height but muscles as well. Seems people only start looking solid when they hit 180-190lbs imo. Boxers look much bigger on tv
Lincoln Baker
Then its his fault for not having the discipline. >because the girl might have aids He had to not eat suspicious beef for 2-3 months max. Easy peasy.
Nathaniel Carter
You may not like it, but this is the future of American boxing
Too bad, cry more, Canelo won. Canelo popped for PEDs but still beat your boy's ass, took his belts, and has the biggest contract in Boxing, top 3 biggest in sports in general.
Sure is unfair, huh? What are you gonna do, gringo, cry about?
I saw Carl Froch at a grocery store in Los Angeles once. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off and say something about 80k Cobraholics. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
Nicholas Allen
do you have the one with carl froch in the gym?
Aaron Fisher
>mexicans celebrating a robbery Typical Mexican behavior
Asher Gomez
Anthony Joshua jerked off to my feet on webcam
Jonathan Allen
>Gringos crying about losing Typical gringo behavior
bro, he tested positive i mean what are you trying to argue exactly. why even take the tests if people are gonna deny the results
Brody Murphy
Who cares? Bumlovkin got his ass beat, he'll never get his titles back now either, they're Canelo's regardless of whether or not Canelo tested positive he WON. You can cry about it being unfair, you can cry about the decision, but fact of the matter is that Canelo won and will go down in history as the great Middleweight of this era so long as he continues winning, Bumlovkin will be just a footnote in Canelo's storied career.
All the Golovtards will probably be crying still when Canelo wins against Jacobs in better fashion than Bumlovkin did.
My bad, I always seem to forget that no one is stupid enough to be a Golovtard, they're just trolling.
Leo Bailey
>that's like saying you can't fuck without a condom because the girl might have aids The only reason for using a condom if you're fucking random chicks is precisely so you don't get STDs.
Saunders makes me uncomfortable because for his entire career he's been on the verge of JUST mode but never quite got to the point where it warrants shaving it off. Truly Schrodinger's thinning hair
>Dazn... just keeps growing. Swallowing everything in its path. Matchroom, Goldenboy >GGG... I’m gonna make ‘em give back our past… Take back everything that we’ve lost. And I won’t rest… until we do. >No greater good, no just cause. Canelo sent us to hell… But we’re going even deeper >I know Tom Loeffler, I'm already a good boy
>Pretending to like a Black fighter because a Mexican schooled your guy Does Canelo will trigger the gringo so much that they'll act all buddy buddy with blacks to insult him?
depends on height desu. if you are the ideal height for a man (6'3) then yeah. but big feet as a 5'8 manlet would look goofy. should have feet that look like they fit your body
Leo Butler
>if you are the ideal height for a man (6'3) 6'4".
Jason Sanchez
The ideal height of a man is 5ft10.5
Adam Wilson
a man (female)
Jonathan Parker
t. King of manlets
Jonathan Rogers
It's because he's a new money piece of shit that likes tacky ass fashion
Oliver Edwards
Its cause he has no personality and it comes out in his fashion
Cameron Russell
Good point. Manlets with big feet would be a little weird looking.
Brayden Scott
>t. coping lanklet 6'3" is literally the ideal height.
Hudson Bell
Both of these. Especially the first.
Bentley Perry
>Tfw exceptionally tall southpaw Literally who is there to take inspiration from? At least I can switch hit
>two usa brainlets are going at it on canelo/ggg topic to then suck each other off in the bumsquad shitposting and they don't even realize it classic /box/
Looks like someone hasn't had to worry about drug testing in his retirement.
Noah Sullivan
Duh that's why fighters retire
Joseph Lee
What would Tyan say?
Isaiah Smith
tottenham yeah...tottenham...tottenham bunch of spastics...saw a video of this tottenham fan yeah...spastic bottleham yeah
Matthew Ross
No, I'm just pointing out that you both talk shit to each other when it's ggg vs canelo to then force bumsquad together and you don't even realize it. In fact, one of you thinks that he is talking to the white guy while both of you are most likely non-white (prolly mexican-american for canelo and black for ggg). hah
Kek. I just noticed that, what the fuck is up with the back of his head?
Noah Peterson
What're some good drills I can do today at the boxing gym?
I have access to a HEAVY heavy bag, normal heavy bag double end bag, cylindrical aqua bag, wrecking ball bag, and speed bag.
I've essentially just been practicing simple combos on the appropriate bags along with behavioral rounds >This round I'll throw power shots >This round I'll stick and move like Ali >This round I'll move in and out throwing 1-2s like Klitschko
Any ideas on some other dynamic movements or combos or something? Maybe I'll try some D'Amato shifts?
why would you want this? Do you wanna be known as a fucking dork?
Asher Long
i never knew about that and i'll forget about it in 5 minutes
Jason Thomas
Absolutely delusional. prime andre ward got put down by darnell boone (who is a good fighter). prime roy obliterates him
David Myers
Not me, but my Dad met Hagler a few times during the 80's when he was working in Boston His most memorable one went like this >Him and a few other guys at the bar after work >Hagler walks in, orders whatever >Some drunk/regular staggers in a few minutes afterwards >Drunk starts rambling on to the bartender about the Nigger sitting in his stool >Hagler finishes his drink, puts the glass down and then says "I'm sorry for whatever trouble I caused him tonight." and walks out the door calmly
do you ever get oversaturated with boxing? I train and watch some fights every day but lately I haven't been as excited about watching it anymore, should I take a break for a little while?
Hunter Mitchell
he'd only need 8 months
James Harris
Watch only on certain days. That's what I do. I post here daily, but don't watch old fights too often anymore, only on fight night do I really get pumped, and I don't even post then
Kayden Scott
Is this Joshua true plan? He has now fought Pulev and Ruiz on short notice. Ducking coward. Femi is scared
Parker Thompson
Takam you mean
Jack Green
Yes
Oliver Gray
LeBeta is already a heartlet, he'd quit on his stool
So are we rooting for the mexican or the black guy?
Brandon Watson
The irishman is going to beat that boy's ass.
Parker Kelly
if you're giving up with bodyshots you should workout mate, especially your core. deadlift, squat, ohp, clean n jerk and any of those variations. you must be pretty lightweight eh
that happened once when I was pretty new and couldn't defend them
Cooper Wright
Let me guess, you think AJ is British?
Alexander Ortiz
Let's check his wiki: >Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua, OBE is a British professional boxer. He is currently a unified world heavyweight....
Yeah, he's British.
Aiden Green
Lmao White Chocolate was in there for half a minute
Aiden Roberts
It sounds hokey and cliché but Jacobs really is a credit to the sport. Eloquent, well-rounded, nice guy, can punch, can fight, doesn't turn down tough fights. Probably my favorite fighter in the sport
Leo Anderson
Always a little strange to hear Canelo speak English. Really think he's pretty close to fluent but he speaks it so little publicly
Julian Wood
How many will take the Millerpill after fat andy ruiz has success against the Bodybuilder?
Kayden Kelly
Technically I've met Oscar, Ali and Tyson before, but barely remember Ali.
My dad pushed us passed a crowd in an airport really quickly because we had to make our flight. Ali was towards the middle of his disease and could speak but not very well.
My dad said >Sorry, Champ. I just had to come up and shake your hand.
He was sitting down and he just looked up and smiled at him and pointed to my dad's face and said "pretty". And my dad laughed and said "no no, you're the pretty one!". Ali laughed about it and agreed.
I shook his hand also... and it was fucking enormous. I was a kid but my dad confirmed it when I asked him about it recently and said he had the biggest hands he's ever seen.
Oscar was at a bar in Orlando being a fucking freak and creeping out girls. We drank and talked a bit and his friend he was with kept clowning on him because Tio kept hitting on the UGLIEST girls in the bar. He had to keep grabbing him and bringing him back over.
Tyson was at an airport also and I just said hi and told him I liked his documentary. He smiled and thanked me for watching it and shook my hand.
I'm 6'4" 220lbs but Tyson is a fucking monster, still. Scary dude.
Oliver Ortiz
>Joshua-Ruiz >Another AJ snoozefest where he gets taken to the late rounds/to decision by an overmatched opponent zzzzZZZZZZ
Michael Gomez
Fuck off its cause I have no game
Henry Hernandez
Watched the Thurman - Lopez fight earlier. Enjoyed it.
Ryder Moore
pretty bummy performance from him there, though
similar style of fight was Plant vs Uzi but way better, and Porter - Thurman
Robert Harris
Only getting back into boxing after nearly 10 years of not watching any. I'll give Plant - Uzi a watch, thanks mate.
Dylan Gonzalez
Canelo, but only so he can get KO'd by Punished Golvkin in the trilogy fight.
Zachary Ward
Why is canelo so much more popular than the other Mexican fighters?
I can't prove it, but I'm the one who started the "Bless you" meme when I posted the picture of Usyk walking out during the Bellew fight. Feelsgood contributing to /box/ culture lads
Brayden Murphy
It's not a great meme. I on the other hand invented "pactard" and "flomo" circa 2009 in the great forum flame wars of that epoch. These terms are still widely used to this day and have become a part of the culture.
Aaron Long
You didn't have to try to put me down to make yourself look better bro. That bucket of crabs mentality is some bad shit
Ayden Smith
Yeah hate to say it but I thought the Usyk memes were all posted by the user.
Owen Johnson
*same user
Luis Perry
Just those? Myself on the other hand, I've invented timeless classic terms such as "bums" "cans" "jobbers"
Jacobs trying to sound menacing was pretty cringey. He just comes off as a square and his cancer story is lame and used. Canelo has zero personality and says the same boring shit every interview. Can two very boring personalities make a good fight?
Bentley Sullivan
>those are the best prostitutes money can buy Yikes, I'll guess I stick to my anime girls
Logan Robinson
It's because he is a plastic product that came along in the era of the social network and fast spread media, if you think he is a good boxer you should consider suicide asap
Ethan Gray
so the bebi dooter is a mey mey? ive never heard him speaking english
Angel Diaz
Personalities can't punch each other so who gives a fuck. All that matter is the fighters skill and strength. If you want homo drama, go watch wrestlefucking mmgay or wwe
Caleb Gonzalez
>golobkeen, ju are neks my fren Actual words out of his mouth
Isaac Flores
In truth a very mediocre fighter amplified by social media and the boxing establishment
Asher Nelson
Their personalities are directly related to the type of fight you're going to get brainlet. Tyson vs Dempsey would be a different fight to a couple of bland stiffs like jacobs and cinabum
John White
Sorry Allen
Nolan Murphy
You hear him attempt to speak English in the Sneaker Shopping episode? I didn't expect it, so I laughed out loud
That guy would be piecing his jaw back together had he approached THE HITMAN in such a manner
Isaiah Hernandez
Marvin is too badass to be fazed by some cracker calling him a nigger just because most other moolies would throw a tantrum over it doesn't mean he's gonna get worked
Hudson Thompson
He knows Joshua's gonna be having nightmares about a Snickers bar chasing him around the ring
Henry Jones
For me it's 5ft 9 Bantamweight Panama Al Brown. Homosexual and first latino champion
How big was The Prince in his prime? Internet says he's worth 33 milly. How do lower weight fighters get that kind of cheddar? Or is it that any britbum with flashy KO's gets a big hype train from propa lads
>Luis Ortiz was offered 7M dollars but turned it down (in reality it wasn't him) Wasn't Al supposed to make his fighters best interested?
Jack Price
Japanese featherweight title match is happening today, where can I watch it if it's being televised?
Levi Butler
Think it's being streamed on boxingraise.com which you have to pay for don't know how you would watch. The event is called Dangan 223 if you want to hunt for a stream
Lucas Lopez
He is, Luis wouldn't have had time to cycle off before testing started.
Lincoln Diaz
he was the biggest boxer over here, not sure about foreign places. it wasnt really for his skill though he was skilled, it was more his flashy style and cocky persona
Levi Bennett
Over here he was huge between 97-99, he had the personality and an invincible aura. Deals with Adidas and Playstation. Frank Warren took him to America and put him on HBO
Fan of Dillian but he’s wanking himself off here because it’s dawned on him the WBC won’t give him a fight. Usyk might not be able to bang like him at heavyweight but he’s a tricky nights work
fucking ruiz. do you think eddie knows AJ is a bum and wont give him anyone good? hes seen pricey heem him in sparring
Easton Sanchez
There's no one available. Luis Ortiz was offered the fight. Wilder, Fury, Usyk all have fights. Whyte is fighting and not what DAZN wanted. He's on the same level as Miller off EPO
Mason Jenkins
First time I saw it was during new years when someone said to post BLESS YOU OLEKSANDR for a good 2019. I did and I've had a great year so far. Big raise, happy life, family is good. so bless you Oleksandr
Ian Young
He's not completely wrong. Heavwyweight boxing has declined in terms of skill. It's basically about size, strengh and roiding and AJ is the biggest roider. Tyson Fury is basically a better Valuev. It is what it is, I'm not really blaming them. I don't really have a problem with roids because everyone's doing it, even in the amateurs. I speak from personal experience lol but some people like AJ are overdoing it. He's basically the Alistar Overeem of boxing.
>Tyson Fury is basically a better Valuev Steady on, your favourite heavyweight from yesteryear would lose to Fury. All the best heavyweights from the 90's were on steroids, Holyfield nearly gave himself a heart attack he blasted so much
Whyte's complaining about the WBO making Usyk mandatory ahead of him because he's pissed off the WBC are giving Ortiz/Kownacki the chance ahead of him and probably regretting turning down $5 million now. Usyk deserves a chance, Whyte's already been ironed out
Brandon Jenkins
>Steady on, your favourite heavyweight from yesteryear would lose to Fury. All the best heavyweights from the 90's were on steroids, Holyfield nearly gave himself a heart attack he blasted so much Have I ever claimed something else? I said today's heavyweights have declined in terms of skill, I never said they would have won against today's heavyweights.
That being said. I never claimed it but now I do. If you think that bum Fury would beat any of the 90s heavyweights you're delusional you fucking pikey fury fan. Stop talking before I lit up your caravans.
Gabriel Taylor
>Lennox Lewis gets outboxed by the lesser technically skilled Klitschko until the TKO >Fury dominates the better one for 12 rounds Bruh look at this dood ononono
Brayden Nelson
>fighter x beat y so z must beat.. Pikey logic. Serious question (and I'm really seriousy, not trying to sound edgy). How do pikeys have access to the internet? I thought you niggers were living in caravans?
The way britbongs hype their fighters is beyond me
Jordan Sanchez
>>Fury dominates the better one for 12 rounds Wlad let himself be dominated though
Leo Murphy
T. Dusseldorf native
Oliver Gonzalez
>"A beat B just barely while C beat D convincingly, so that means C beats A my guy!" Is this the pedo poster? No one else is stupid enough to come up with an even more retarded version of triangle theory.
a new 40 minutes eddie hearn interview, the missus will have to wait
Charles Kelly
What's the best pic of a boxer (inside or outside the ring) that you've got?
Brandon Parker
is it RAW doe?
Carter Johnson
Benson's been a champ and put the highlights up. Cheeseman vs Fitzgerald in September, Lebedev vs Okolie not happening, Chisora vs Parker not happening, Riakporhe vs Chris Billiam-Smith on Whyte undercard (a fight Isaac Chamberlain ducked) Ortiz turned down $7 million
Let me save you niggas some time. All heavyweights to come out after 1990 besides Lennox and Vitali were all BUMS.
Heavyweight is such a shit division idk why people get so hyped up over these bums like Fury and Joshua. Usyk moving up will make him the most talented hw in like 20 years.
this is true. I'd throw Wlad in there but he was overrated af. Wilder and Fury are garbage. Johsua has the most potential of the three.
James James
>Wlad in there but he was overrated af a lot of anons really have to go and look up what the word 'overrated' means. both klitschkos were the opposite of overrated. if they had been american we would never hear the end of the praise. can you name even a few writers/publicans/anything that sucked wlad's dick? i can't think of a single one. and that was during the second-longest title reign of all time
one of the best jabs of all time. one of the best straight rights of all time. and vitali is even better with the great chin. how many heavyweight greats would you feel 100% comfortable with going against either of the klitschkos? that fury fight has really confused the pleb mind when it comes to wlad's legacy
> Listen, I'm not saying he wasn't technically sound. My problem with him is his temperament. I watched him struggle and fight scared against too many mediocre boxers. >ibragimov >Chambers (yes i know he gets the KO very late but still a shit fight against a cw) I can list more but you get the idea. The Povetkin fight is one of the worst displays I've ever seen and he should've been DQ'd for that shit. And worse of all, he never rematched Corrie Sanders. He was happy to let Vitali go in there and do his dirty work. So yeah, good skills for sure but he fought scared and had a bad chin so his fights were terrible to watch most of the time since he had to hold so much. HBO dropped him during his prime because of it. Let that sink in. Really the best thing that happened to him was the Joshua fight because he redeemed that reputation somewhat.
lol who cares you fucking faggot muh humble do gooder boxers are fucking pussies
Xavier Martin
Dwyer is a fucking idiot
Alexander Turner
>Only one hand for the cock and balls Ohnonononono Brits BTFO AGAIN
Isaiah White
I was thinking about the Uysk Gassiev fight on my to work today. Abel Sanchez deserves to get shit on for a lot of different reasons but I'm 99% sure if it was any other trainer in gassievs's corner that night the towel would have come in 8th round. Moorat had no answer and neither did Abel but he told his guy when he wanted out and was humiliated they wanna see you try and kept him going. If he would've quit on his stool in the final of the tournament he probably would've never lived it down
Noah Thomas
What was his prediction and hedge I wanna know if my Canelo by decision bet is safe
Nathaniel Garcia
Jacobs by decision hedged by Canelo KO, RIP your money bro.
Josiah Rodriguez
>Ibragimov >mediocre what
Zachary Long
This is how faggots like rate boxers.
>go to Wikipage of a box star >sees a defeat against a boxer he doesn't know >he doesn't know him so he must be a bum >both are bums now
it's like people >"lolololo Mike Tyson lost to Buster Douglas" and I can guarantee these people haven't seen 3 Buster Douglas fights. Douglas was great. Same goes for Ibragimov.
Did you watch the Ibragimov fight you retarded faggot? Did you ever watch his fights before that? Wtf was so great about Sultan Ibragimov? He wouldn't even beat Gassiev right now.
Nathaniel Cooper
Canelo by KO. Screencap this fy frens
Elijah White
>Despierta, Daniel. Things aren't looking good for the Miracle Man. LDBC may be in shambles on Saturday night.
Only reason Eddie chose Ruiz is he has no punching power
Mason Ross
there is nothing worse than boxing fans who claim Tyson was a bum in order to stand out from casual fans and masquerading themselves as boxing experts.
I've watched most of his fights. >Wtf was so great about Sultan Ibragimov? Decent speed, power, pretty slick southpaw for his size and great chin. Considering he started boxing with 17, got himself a silver medal (lost to Savon in the finals) he was pretty great. Definitely not mediocre. It just cracks me up when Wikipedia fags like yourself start taking a boxers like apart just by looking at his boxing record for 2 seconds and maybe looking at 1-2 fights.
He was framed. If he admits to anything it's because Eddie and the Matchroom Mafia paid him to make a false admission
Jacob Baker
He was shit. Fuck his amateur fights. That fight was shit. Wladimir fought like a bitch and Ibragimov was a barney rubble looking motherfucker. Take your fedora and shove it up your ass Hans.
Ayden Brown
Did Kovalev v Yarde ever get cofirmed?
Jonathan Young
this got to he the worst /box/ thread I ever seen, Jesus Christ
Robert Barnes
Seriously, it's been 2 consecutive threads of garbage. I don't know why I keep refreshing.
Jonathan Myers
this is the good thread
Juan Bailey
I thought it was confirmed to happen in Russia a few weeks back but I don't remember desu
>Jacobs felt Robert Byrd kept him from getting up & continuing. Jacobs also was offended when Robert Byrd sent someone over to him at a function in Vegas a few years ago & asked Jacobs to autograph a photo of Byrd standing over him, counting him out. FUCKING KEK
Elijah Baker
He's lucky that Hearns hurt his hand because his rear upper and overhand were doing some damage.
I love Hagler but don't you ever disrespect Hearns in my presence again, scum.
Everyone in the US hated him. Semi popular, though.
Prime Mike would would have done significantly better against those guys if he still had his killer instinct. Not that he definitely would have won or anything...
Having said that, a lot of heavyweights these days are just too big for him. But he'd still beat everyone except the white guys and possibly AJ.
Since we haven't seen Usyk at HW yet, I can't be certain if he has the chin to take the hits or the power to halt his forward movement, but he has the skill to land jabs and split his guard with uppers and the clinching ability to negate his inside game when he gets too close.
That's how Buster beat him, any ways.
Lincoln Peterson
Wilder has the smallest chance of anyone in the division.
Eli Johnson
According to Michael Montero, and to what he was told, Abel was getting 15% since he moved to US. What a piece of shit to refuse to renegotiate, GGG was absolutely right to leave him
Brandon Flores
Ted Cheeseman
John Smith
Holyfield was better than Tyson and he’d lose
Blake Smith
Is Teddy Atlas's podcast worth listening to?
He generally irritates the shit out of me with his condescension and stupid ass analogies/metaphors but he's obviously knowledge and experienced and seems to have some good guests so far.
Wilder is an awful boxer with a good right hand. Holyfield would absolutely decimate him.
Aaron Diaz
AJ is levels above both Fury and Wilder and yet he struggled against a 40 year old has been. The truth is we are now in the weakest era for heavyweights ever.
Isaiah Hughes
>He generally irritates the shit out of me with his condescension and stupid ass analogies/metaphor If you dislike any aspect of Teddy you will HATE his podcast
Ethan Gonzalez
So he would be getting $500k per Golovkin fight if the 1/5 was to be believed?
Julian Evans
Fury would box circles around AJ
Brayden Mitchell
He wouldn't, he'd get knocked out. Fury has been put on his backside against technically very low skilled boxers, AJ would murder him
Chase Brown
Abel wanted some dazzen money too then. Fuck Abel
Angel Mitchell
Seems so.
Liam Johnson
If Wilder didn't knock him out then AJ wouldn't. As shit as Wilder might be the one thing he has is retard strength
Noah Martin
shut up manlet
Aaron Brown
Big Baby and Usyk beat any of those 3 bums.
Jace James
Wilder swings wildly, AJ doesn't. Fury has laps of concentration and gets caught. AJ would murder him everywhere
Camden Gutierrez
Abel was trying to rob GGG blind and had the audacity to try to make GGG the bad guy when rightfully told to fuck off
Absolute cunt. His only hope now is to leech off Gassiev and sell him down the river to AJ
Nolan Phillips
>If Wilder didn't knock him out then AJ wouldn't.
zero logic
Nicholas Brown
Dillian Whyte beats both those bums
Isaiah Sanders
Andy Ruiz sleeps all three of those big BUMS
Joshua Williams
dont even joke about that fat bum im still too mad at this fucking 'fight'. FUCK AJ AND FUCK EDDIE
Zachary Clark
>Brazilian >Average height of 5'7" OH NO NO NO NO
Dylan Howard
its actually 5'10 but ok
Daniel Reed
Top 5 Heavyweights right now on overall skill level as follows 1 Anthony Joshua 2 Dillian Whyte 3 Joe Joyce 4 Daniel Dubois 5 Filip Hrgovic
Thomas Martin
AJ isn't that talented. Not yet anyways. He's big and strong and explosive but not uber skillful.
And Klitschko is one of the best HWs in the past few decades. At least the best at playing the game he wants to play, which is in-and-out movement with powerful as fuck jabs/crosses and timely clinches.
AND... Stop using stupid X>Y, Y>Z, X>Z bullshit. That's Pokemon, not boxing.
Damn, for real? That's upsetting... You're probably right though. Not sure I can handle high dose Atlas.
Knock downs don't mean anything. Anyone can get caught. They're only relevant in that specific match's decision and if they're indicative of a trend/weakness.
For example, if Fury gets knocked down by a check hook multiple times in his career, it would indicate he rushes in too often or without moving his head enough. That hasn't been the case.
Julian Walker
B-But he ((((almost)))) beat Parker so he's technically a world champ!
Cooper Watson
Nah. Mike Tyson was the biggest star of the late 80's and 90's and didn't want to fight old George Foreman, he was wrapped in self doubt after Douglas. Holyfield would have big problems against Joshua, he's better than Riddick Bowe and while Tyson Fury's chin may be in question his style and size is a nightmare. Size has always been important, it's Lewis and Vitali that could still go.
Carter Baker
>5'10" >Calling me a manlet Jesus christ.
Blake Flores
>If Wilder didn't knock him out then AJ wouldn't A certain fight on December 1st, 2018 tells a different story
Jack confirmed in an interview he gave Tyson an 8 count to start standing up. He stopped the count once he did. He then evaluated him and determined he was good to go.
He was obviously right because Fury continued to dominate Wilder the rest of the round.
I know you're trolling but it's important for lurkers to understand how stupid that argument is.
Noah Jones
>Joshua hits harder because of one photoshopped image of him knocking down Klitschko with a punch Klit got up from.
deontay wilder would go the distance with dillian whyte
William Taylor
At what point did you realize boxing was fixed? For me it was when I was 6 years old watching the Lewis/Holyfield fight. And yet I still watch this disgraceful sport every weekend, joke's on them right? Haha
Camden Brooks
Chamberlain confirmed that AJ hits harder, like a sledgehammer, but that Wilder is a snappier, more explosive puncher. He said that AJ is very very durable and punching him is like hitting a brick wall.
He also confirmed that Usyk is too good for everyone.
Anthony Russell
>Jack confirmed in an interview he gave Tyson an 8 count to start standing up. He stopped the count once he did. That's funny, because the only leg Furytards have to stand on about the long count, is that they think it was slightly under 10 seconds.
If Reiss thinks Fury got up in under 8 seconds, hes even more stupid than I thought.
Dominic Lopez
Lil fans are weirdos
Mason Mitchell
wlad was a notorious chinlet so that's not exactly a good argument
Aaron Jones
Dylan White gets bombed out by Wilder or eaten alive by Big Baby, take your pick.
>10 seconds It's not 10 seconds retard, it's a 10 COUNT. The count is completely at the discretion of the official. He can stop it or start it whenever he wants.
Not only that, he specifically said that he has always given big HWs more time to complete the process of standing up, because it's slower for them than manlets. He they start to stand at his 8 count, he let's the complete the process.
Stick to discussing anime since you don't know shit about boxing, nerd.
Thomas Edwards
Think its pretty obvious Wilder hits harder since hes a one punch ko machine while Joshua usually breaks down his opponents
Apparently Gassiev left too. Who does Abel even have left that's notable?
Liam Hughes
wilder has retard strength
Ryan Wilson
Shame Al cock blocked Ortiz, that would have been a good comparison to how they dealt with him. Think Wilder knocks Breazeale out in 5 rounds but Breazeale has just enough power for it to be interesting
Cameron Ross
Whyte was based for knocking Parker down with his head. Parker loves charging in head first to get cuts Klitschko was based for hugging so much. They weren't timely considering that is all he did to try and tire his opponents out when he became champ
Chase Murphy
>shame so cockblocked Ortiz How? Its clear Ortiz's promoter fucked up not haymon. Haymon is an adviser to Ortiz not even his manager
Evan Butler
NEW
Kevin Peterson
He has him in under contract clearly, Dade promotions are just hedging their long term relationship with Haymon and PBC. Why would they turn down $7 million? Haymon's saying no, no let's do the Wilder rematch for Showtime you'll make more than that over a couple of fights with us
Jayden Ramirez
Abel is bum, he's basically the Mexican version of Joe Gallagher.
Jacob Nguyen
Notice how this count doesn't start when Fury hits the canvas, also notice how he doesn't even pause his count once Fury is up.
>The count is completely at the discretion of the official. He can stop it or start it whenever he wants. >SHUT UP RETARD! JACK REISS CAN GIVE FURY A LONG COUNT IF HE WANTS!!!
>Not only that, he specifically said that he has always given big HWs more time to complete the process of standing up Thanks for admitting that he did, in fact, give Fury a longer count than what is allowed.
Levi Harris
If you want to write fan fiction go somewhere else
Jackson Walker
Chicano here I invented the “Mikey Garcia is a BUM” meme I wasn’t trying to make it a meme. I just dislike the guy. He thinks his shit don’t stink.
Brayden Roberts
You don't live in the real world. Why Dade promotions turn down $7 million? Haymon is not just an adviser when he has networks to provide content for, he's a promoter who can't legally call himself a promoter
David Perry
Why do brits hate him? In all the prince vs Barrera vids I see, it’s nothing but brits saying how much they hated him.
Cooper Wright
Because they thought they could get more money. Go to /x/ if you want peddle conspiracy theories
Jacob Bell
Embarrassing. Haymon serves as content provider and matchmaker that makes him a promoter. Dade promotions don't turn down $7 million without other obligatons. You should go shill on Yea Forums for PBC, he'll ram a few more nickles up your arsehole.
