Can someone explain to a burger who's trying to get into football(soccer): why does Yea Forums hate them so much?

Can someone explain to a burger who's trying to get into football(soccer): why does Yea Forums hate them so much?

Also, which team should i bandwagon?

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because the arab-funded psy-op told them to

they are the discord trannies of EPL

because liverpool has the most history and the most based fans of all time

abls are simply just jealous

>most cucked soiboy fans in the league
>just as plastic as the other top clubs but act like they're special
>haven't ever won the premier league, haven't won a meaningful trophy this decade, yet bank on ancient history

this Liverpool is the only city with soul in the UK and so it makes the rest of the country seethe.

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Also Liverpool made English football their bitch in the 70s and 80s and people are still mad.

Support them. You already piss people off by being American so might as well piss them off more by supporting Liverpool.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>0 titles
The only good Scouse is a dead Scouse

sp, doesn't hate them, they just haven't won the league in 30 years which is inherently laughable. That, and the fact that they keep choking makes it fun to root against them, so we can laugh some more.

Im secretly a fan though, I think the song is based

They're dirty, work shy parasites, always the victim, it's never their fault.

Literally just a generic big city with more leftists. Bindipping and heroin isn't culture.

They murdered 135 innocent fans in the 80s, resulting in ALL English clubs being banned from Europe. They shifted the blame for the death of 96 of those fans and act like the victims, whilst openly laughing about the other 39 they killed and singing songs about how their murdering prevented local rivals Everton from challenging for the European Cup.

This. Unironically.

Liverpool is a very unique city in comparison to the rest of the UK. It's more European than gammon and it makes the rest of the country seethe to no end.

It's all jealousy.

They murdered a lot of people

and they're owned by one of the most popular teams in american sports

Finally someone said it

Liverpool is just Glasgow with a red soi club instead of green

>its never your fault
>its never your fault
>ALWAYS THE VICTIM

>ITS NEVER YOUR FAULT

Less poverty and drug related problems than London, Birmingham, Manchester, Nottingham

But don't let facts get in the way of an agenda right?

Yikes. Found the virgin. No one openly laughs about Heysel. We didn't "shift" the blame about Hillsborough. If you believe the Sun you're a fucking virgin faggot. (Which we know you are anyway but lets move on). Those responsible for trouble in Heysel were arrested and did their time. Both sets of fans were responsible in a sense, its just unfortunate one side lost lives over it.

Fuck off sexpat

Hurrr soi boi

Bet you subscribe to Count Dankula on youtube.

Have sex. Get a shower. Lose Weight.

Good team to bandwagon.

All you need to know is you'll never walk alone.

Based on high quality self reported stats from the city with a culture identity of lying, general thuggery, and a lynch mob mentality for journalists and the police. Very believable.

Bandwagon lelvershit so we can laugh at you

>being this mad at a problematic pug
Why are liverpool fans so hysterical and feminine

The Sun lied, but the actions of Liverpool fans ignoring safety warnings and breaking into the ground directly caused the death of 96 innocents, yet they avoided punishment for the murders.

How old are you not to remember the Heysel songs and the laughing at Everton?

they're murderers

>Journalists

You're talking about the Sun newspaper you fucking idiot. Geeze.

>General thuggery

Evidence please.

>Lying.

Evidence please.

Honestly, only southern home county faggots are scared of us because they don't know us. Seethe over our superior culture you fucking kissless virgin.

>muh s*n
Oh gee, I wonder how the rest of the media would react if a city managed to mount a multi decade campaign of harassment against a paper for reporting negatively on them

>Lying
See above

Again, being smack addicted thieves who are simultaneously whiny SJW faggots is not culture. At least not one to be proud of.

The murderous antics of Liverpool fans led to the introduction of all-seated stadia in the top levels of English football, as standing was no longer considered 'safe'. This led to a massive reduction in the quality of matchday experience and shitter atmospheres due to people being forced to sit, just to avoid another Hillsbrough.

>Oi la I'm going to the public screening of the 2013/14 season dvd after 5th prayer of the day for the 96 you in la?

they are absolutely the most reddit team in the premier league and maybe in all of europe

>Seethe over our superior culture

Like robbing the home of your spiritual leader Cilla Black during her funeral?

Dont forget the murderous antics of liverpool fans at heysel lead to English clubs being banned from Europe, stunting the growth of the game for years.

>liverpool
>superior culture
Even I can laugh at this bullshit and I've never left colorado

As the Liverpool fan earlier in this thread pointed out, the death of 39 Juventus fans was partly the fault of the Juventus fans, so Liverpool shouldn't be blamed for killing them.

salah dives a lot and a one season wonder. spurs are america's team and quite possibly the most popular team in the country next to man united. chose spurs- bright future ahead

Man U normie and /pol/ inspired psyop, old spee never hated Liverpool.

For boomers, their criminal behaviour and unapologetic destruction of the English game. For millenials, the fact 90% of pundits on football programmes are ex-Liverpool players so the media bias is unbearable. For zoomers, the fact their fans act entitled to success despite their success being historical, but for a single flukey CL win 14 years ago.

Liverpool are light years more popular than spurs. Spurs are considered a nothing club in England.

>muh soi
kek you would last two days in both those places before somebody carved you up.

It’s mostly just kids on the internet that are desperate to be a part of something and on the right side of a joke for once.

>Liverpool is a fantastic city with a proud culture envied across the world
>Liverpool is so crime ridden, you're very likely to be stabbed and/or robbed within days of moving there

Which is it?

Because colored ppl support Liverpool and man U, except oilniggers

why not both

>which team should i bandwagon?
Liverpool, if you're Irish-American

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SALAH IS A BOMBER

Cilla was a tory slag. Hope she suffered the horrible cunt.

Being a shithole isn't a 'culture' just because a pop band played there 50 years ago.

you can always tell people who have never been to liverpool
because they talk about it like it's a nice place
>t. local

You must come from an absolute no mark town.

Some of the worlds cultural hot spots are rough around the edges cities with a no nonsense attitude. Its kind of what adds to the culture you fucking home counties virgin no mark.

In fact, do me a favour and give me your post code. I could use the laugh.

Success breeds jealousy.

Liverpool are the most successful English club alongside Man United in terms of major trophies. They were very dominant in the 70s and 80s which caused a lot of clubs to hate them. This jealousy has passed on to today. Liverpool have had ups and downs over the past few years so clubs like Chelsea and United have used this as a way of getting back at Liverpool, although Liverpool fans still point to the fact that they've still got more trophies than Chelsea and are very strong atm. There are more historically rooted reasons for the rivalry between the cities of Liverpool and Manchester however.

who’s that

I'm trying to think of a comparable place in the states. Imagine if Detroit claimed to be the best place on Earth and forcing everyone else in the country to cry crocodile tears over a drive by shooting 30 years ago.

I'm born and bred in Liverpool you fucking virgin. This city is great. Its culture, architecture and people are second to none. What shit hole are you from?

>Those responsible for trouble in Heysel were arrested and did their time. Both sets of fans were responsible in a sense, its just unfortunate one side lost lives over it.

Classic Scouse.

Red Sox

They probably have the most arrogant fans in all of EPL. That and victimhood

What does that even mean. People were rightfully convicted. But to say it was purely one sided in terms of blame is ridiculous you actual virgin.

>a Scouser asking where I live

Nice try, we all know what your lot do to Liverpool players' houses when they're playing away.

>which team should i bandwagon?
none, fuck off

They have won 1 champions league trophy and 0 premier league titles over the last quarter of a century.

L4 0TH

Coward. Funny thing is I would actually no joke put you to sleep in front of your family. Then I'd probably knock seven shades of shite out of your old man as well.

Remember the score that day, dipper? Rami and King Didier cucked you hahahahahahahaha

>which team should i bandwagon
I would say your local one but since >tf I'm not even gonna make you try.

liverpool fella
around the corner from where that 14 year old kid got stabbed the other day

>Which team should I bandwagon?

Unironically, Wolves or Everton. They'll both be genuinely challenging the top6 on a regular basis within a season or two and they strike the perfect balance between plastic fanbases and literal whos.

96+36=132

ive made a huge calculation error on the heysel report

Oh well with that being said, I'm more than happy to invite a subhuman scouser to my house to prove the stereotype, you got a pen and paper ready?

i can taste the seethe from here spam van damme

Which one? You'll have to be more specific than that.

I'm in L8 as well. Give me your address and I'll fold you you fat cunt.

>1 champions league trophy
As well as 2 FA cups, 4 league cups, a UEFA cup, 2 UEFA supercups.

It's true though that a league title is something we need to pursue which is what we're doing. We're now in the position to win major titles such as the champions league and the premier league. Meanwhile for Man United Fergie time's over, and so is their future.

>always hope that somebody actually will get killed or seriously smashed up over one of these threads but it never happens
feels pretty bad

I think the reason why (rational) people hate Liverpool fans should be clear to you by now.

>More European than gammon

10/10 bait had to reply.

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At least Man Utd were a dominant force this side of the Victorian era.

>No one openly laughs about Heysel.

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>which team should i bandwagon
Hamburger SV

>Liverpool fans cause the deaths of 36 Juve fans

Nothing to see here la, calm down calm down, nobody's fault, let's move on

>Liverpool fans cause the death of 96 Liverpool fans

If you suggest anything other than it being entirely the fault of SYP you're worse than a holocaust denier

>Found the virgin
>you're a fucking virgin faggot
>you fucking kissless virgin
>you fucking home counties virgin no mark
>you fucking virgin
>you actual virgin
found the virgin indeed lmao

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>Also, which team should i bandwagon?

tranmere. get in on the ground level, prem in 3 years. we're off to the moon

SE1 3TH

toppest of keks

The one on Bold Street? nice round there

This

>this peak scouse
gtfo the net you mong

>t. lad who lives in an identical sink estate in Salford but is superior to Liverpool because reasons

Lived in Liverpool for 2 years and I rate it massively tbf

Not gonna be a dominant force for at least a decade though, especially not with Ole at the wheel.

not him, but while I don't live in Liverpool, I have cause to mix with a lot of scousers in their homeland
some of them are top lads
quite a few are not

say no more.

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Serious answer: after Hillsborough, they said they were the victims of a conspiracy, and everyone rolled their eyes because hooligan culture meant there was always violence and rioting, and Liverpool were the biggest team in the country back then so it wasn't that weird for 96 fans to be killed in what was reported as a riot. There were other teams who also suffered major disasters (lots of Bradford City fans died when their stadium burnt down, and there was another crush at the Ibrox Stadium in Scotland where Rangers play), but only Liverpool were complaining that muh police were out to get them. However, about 25 years after this, it was ultimately decided that the police had covered up their own failure to handle the excessive numbers of fans, and it was the police's fault that so many people died.

Also, Liverpool is a poverty-stricken shithole. And, back in the 1980s, it did have violent hooligan fans (although so did Millwall, West Ham, Chelsea, Leeds, and plenty of others, and Yea Forums never gets triggered by them), so the news stories in The Sun about Hillsborough were actually plausible (but, again, proven to be untrue).

Since about 1995, the top team that wins all the time and is hated by everyone is Man Utd, but Yea Forums are all Man Utd customers and bandwagoning retards, so they believe that Liverpool are the team with gloryhunting faggot fans. This is not true, and Yea Forums are retards.

Man City were true underdogs for decades, and therefore it would be great to see them win the league ahead of Liverpool. However, they are now owned by the literal royal family of the United Arab Emirates, meaning they have slave-owning oil barons in charge and unironically unlimited money. So they have bought a lot of success over the past eight years.

It's up to you who you support. If you support Liverpool, you will trigger Yea Forums autists and that will be fabulous news, but I guarantee you will encounter a few absolute fucking disgraces if they do win, so be careful.

Bandwagon Morpeth Town. We'll be a Premier League club within the next 15-20 years, mark my words.

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based season

one to tell my grandkids on my deathbed

good post

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everton fan here, the one time we had a half decent team that could actually achieve something in the CL (inb4 neverton), liverpool thugs had to do their typical liverpool thugging and attacked juventus fans resulting in many deaths and all english clubs being banned from CL

honestly fuck liverpool I am glad city will win

I am also glad you'll drop points against wolves

You also finished 4th and didn't get Champions League because Liverpool qualified instead as defending champions :^)

Cause aul lads who used to stand on the terraces told me their fans are dogs

>kvetching over muh s*n
>hurr incel
>>>REDDIT SPACING
Oh wow, a left-wing redditor from Liverpool. You're a walking cliche.

Why are Liverpool and Irish team now? Was watching videos of their old EC wins and union jacks were being flown all over their ends. Even as late as their win in 2005 they had more english and british flags than irish. What went wrong

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>Detroit = Liverpool

So were you dropped on your head as a kid, or were you just raised in Kent/Essex?

>drop points against Wolves
>Won two nil away, something other top tier teams can't do this season

Seething blues, man u fans, and sheik mansour shills, got it.

Tory Britain sorely dislikes them for existing, and eventually, no matter how patriotic you are, a group can learn that their sentiments aren't appreciated.

That, and Liverpool's "Scouse" accent basically came about because of accent blending between Irish, African and English people in Liverpool. I say Scouse, because it's in around half the city, and around the surrounding areas, but it's fading away once again in most areas.

i follow the sport and i dont get it either, im pretty sure its just hivemind Yea Forums contrarianism

>Unionisation against media for printing utter bullshit due a couple of nice backhanders from police and government

That's basically a quarter of the current American dream right there.

Non-English footy fans want them to win as they aren't shitteh

>Only city with soul
Laughs in Glaswegian

Liverpool are the Prod club, though

He said soi, not catholic.

look up slippy g its basically how the club has done the past 25 years also scousers are disgusting no wonder they signed cockroaches like Kuyt

Liverpool are not a prod club. They're basically non-sectarian. Just because they were founded by a protestant doesn't matter. Also:
>there are Irish protestants

They're an extremely popular team with an insanely proud/arrogant fanbase even though they haven't won a title since the late 80s. Also they're from a region of England which most other English people dislike. They're basically the Dallas Cowboys.

its reddits official club

Yes, there are Unionist Protestants. In the city of Liverpool, Liverpool F.C are their team.

Soi and fenian are one in the same.

Someone post the webm of the liverpool supporters making chinky eyes to son

>kike team is America's team

Makes sense desu.

t. Nevertonian

tears

but liverpool weren't one of the more violent fan bases in the 80s. they didn't even have a firm. their game was robbing shops, not killing.

I saw a youtube comment in Spanish by a Liverpool fan, probably Argentine.
Can't find it now, but it was something like

"you kids may not know it, but Liverpool had always been a great Champions League team
In the 90s they were heading towards becoming the greatest club in the world, greater than Real Madrid, but some tragedy-conspiracy (I dont know about it) got them banned from Champions league for many years...."
it was like he was trying to make converts

>muh premier league
They won the top division in the past, premier league is just a meme.
They also have more CLs than any other.

Because Liverpool is blue la

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well really ManU, Arsenal, Bournemouth, Fulham, Crystal Palace, Liverpool, Villa, Barnsley, Leeds, Millwall, Swansea, Portsmouth, and Coventry are "American" teams in that Americans own them to some extent

wait which one of those people are laughing its hard to tell

Sure scouser. Whatever helps you cope

lol no

They have 1 Champions League, don't Man Utd have 2?

Yet they killed 135 fans. So what you're saying is murder is just in their nature, since they didn't need to organise 'firms' to do it.

I agree wit a lot of the post, but your lying about Yea Forums being Manu customers and Liverpool not having bandwagoners

Based

yep, that was totally their intention that day. murder.

>bandwaggoning a club
>not just finding a few players to hate and cheer on the side that's playing against them

We don't hate them.

It's just that Stevie G said "THIS DOES NOT FOOKIN SLIP", and then he literally slipped, which brought us a lot of joy and lulz. We want them to slip again, because it will make us laugh again. We are generally a sad bunch, most of us have no gf or any life goals and prespectives, so any pure joy we could have is welcome. All we have is memes.

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>muh footbull didnt start in 1992
You already know ur dealing w a liverscum its like its in there dna to say this

I don't care much for english football but as a rule of thumb being hated by Yea Forums is unmistakable proof of utter basedness

>n-no! i support liverpool because of its deep irish connections. don't point out facts to me. if that were true it would mean i'm just a bandwagoning faggot! us irish fans aren't customers, k-klopp said we're special

Liverpool were the Protestant team, and Everton were the Catholic team.

>tfw irish liverpool customer
youtu.be/N1uTsqJVAeo

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user, don't bring Leicester city into this. They have nothing to do with this thread.

Weren’t Everton originally Methodist? There’s a Methodist church right next to Goodison

Already answered both of you dumbcunts in the post that you both replied to.

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Yea Forums hates fun.

But user, only City can slip now. I don't mind City but if Liverpool wins somehow imagine the hurt ABL's and chelsea fans seething. If City wins it's oil money, even though they're a grand old club, it's only the oil money that's bringing this title, a hollow victory.

I'll give you that. I agree with the original comment but I'd just say England and wales instead.

Leftie idiots actually do consider being crime and drug ridden positive aspects of Urban culture. It’s also why they want to import more blacks and muzzies.

Good to remember innit

They aren't gonna though. Enjoy celebrating 2nd place, scouser

>that one deluded scouse mong virgin slipping all over this thread
stay cucked, bindipper

They have the most annoying autistic fan base out of any team in any sport. They will always try and shoehorn Liverpool into any discussion about football, and will never accept any reasonable critique of their team. Worse still they are under some strange belief that they are everyone's 'second team' and therefore think that the majority of the country is backing them.

depends which country

why does everybody hate US posters when the average bong sounds like this

What do Leicester have to do with it?

Salah is a diving cheating cunt. Selfish player and well. He's going to cost Liverpool the league if city slip because he'll want the glory

we don't sound like him. He's a faggot and we're top boys

>net spend la

another reason to hate them is that always use dippernomics to explan how they arent a money club and are a real club who doesnt spend anything, despite them not having one home grown player in their starting lineup of multi million pound foreigners on 8 digit salaries

the new amr zaki

Me too brother.... Me too

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>big fucking steaua banner
>look at these lelverpoop fans guise

Traditionally, red teams are always Catholic and blue teams are Protestant. This is why Liverpool always had Irish and Spanish players, while Everton are more Northern Europeans.

They’re snobby and whiny. Also their prized star in your pic is extremely overrated because 1.) he’s lucked impressive looking shots a few times and 2.) british people are extremely fucking retarded and cannot help but to axiomatically form narratives of some players being precious godlike saints. Hope for good games over a team’s success but for the most watchable games bandwagon a top three team in epl, la liga, or >bundeslinga
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Funnily enough in australian rugby the old catholic brothers teams are blue & white

what does ABL mean?

clueless post

this is a strawman, I've yet to see someone make this argument. you are confusing this with pointing out, indisputably, that they lack the financial clout of the manchester clubs.

>a multi decade campaign of harassment against a paper
This desu. I'm tired of Rupert Murdoch being bullied like this, the poor man.

Anyone But Liverpool

I enjoy proving Liverpool fans wrong with one 2 min video. Showing how massively Liverpool failed over United/Arsenal/Blackburn in 13 years after 1990. This is net spend by the way.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=hfnrY8ISR9w

Fucking wrong. Fucking serial losers.

Did you hear the US has now ODI status. They're back after 15 years. I was just thinking that a soccer match between the US cricket team and Indian soccer team would be pretty interesting

Because dad hated unions and liked tax cuts

not many clubs spend more than they do, you sound like the kind of armchair casual that would fit right in at liverpools cult fan base.

The US Cricket team vs some random indians off the steet in cricket would be p funny

look up the total transfer fees for the current team
look up wages. google any source you'd like.

you're simply wrong.

you are correct that not many clubs spend more than they do. nonetheless, they are mocked relentlessly for being slightly worse than precisely the teams that outspend them. you can call me a casual if you like, but you're an armchair retard.

If you haven’t figured it out, Yea Forums has been systematically taken over by people of certain political beliefs which often come in contrast to the views of mainstream leftism. As for some reason western young people have adopted a form of moralist social democracy that lines up well with traditional Labour.

Blame it on contrarianism, blame it on the “everyone’s a boy on the internet” mindset, blame it on the CIA and MI6 for using Yea Forums to push a negative political narrative due to the failures of mainstream liberalism to establish itself as the post-ideology ideology people envisioned in 1991

Liverpool Starting 11 + subs
Allison - £75m
TAA - signing on fee
Gomez - £4m
VVD - £75m
Matip - £4m signing on fee
Robertson - £10m
Milner - signing on fee
Keita - £53m
Fabinho - £40m
Henderson - £22m
Gini - £23m
Salah - £37m
Firmino- £30m
Mane - £34m

£412m + signing on fee. Same as City and United.

Per week

City
Aguero - 250
Sterling - 180
B. Silva - 120
D. Silva - 220
Fernandinho - 150
Gundogan - 120
Zinchenko - 20
Laporte - 65
Kompany - 120
Walker - 100
Moraes - 65
Danilo - 80
Sane - 90
Jesus - 90

Total - 1.365 m

Liverpool
Mane - 100
Firmino - 180
Salah - 200
Keita - 120
Milner - 140
Hendo - 140
Gini - 75
Fabinho - 100
TAA - 50
Matip - 100
Gomez - 30
VVD - 180
Robertson - 50
Allison - 90

Total - 1.455m

Well, What do you know? Wages of Liverpool are higher than City.

Players who have atleast 1 app

City
Mahrez - 120
Stones - 100
Delph - 90
De Bruyne - 350
Mendy - 90
Otamendi - 120
Foden - 12

Total - 882
Full total - 2.185m

Liverpool
Mignolet - 60
Origi - 45
Clyne - 70
Lovren - 100
Sturridge - 130
Lallana - 110
Moreno - 65
Shaqiri - 80

Total - 660
Full total - 2.115m

I destroyed you.

How well are United/Arsenal/Blackburn doing now tho?

>you're an retard

and here you are on the internet.

welcome

So the plastic product is made cheaper while being more useful

Will anyone care in 50 years?

Liverpool will still be a big club in 50 years, Liverpool could be owned by a broke Alcoholic and would stillbe in the PL, making signings and getting headlines. Once the oil runs out and Xi Jinping builds a freeway from ShenZhen to Calais and Muzzahar bin Bribing is just the Duke of Vegas minus alcohol City will yoyo between divisions and United will go back to being the only team that matters inManchester

What the? United finished 2nd last year you dumbfuck. United/Arsenal Won more trophies in last 2 years than Liverpool won since 2012.

Do you want more proof that you’re utter losers? Fucking serial losers.

Not as well as Liverpool

as a pats fan can i expect the rest of the NFL to seethe for 35 more years over our success?

No. All Liverpool’s arguments about net spend and City’s spending is rendered useless.

All Liverpool are, are an utter failing version of United/Chelsea/City. Obviously Liverpool supporters want to believe they are the English versions of Spurs/Arsenal/Dortmund but they are just utter serial losers.

Okay, so there’s more money laundering between America and Britain than Britain and that country Britain bombed

You do realize that spurs and arsenal are, although in London, english clubs

Wait, are you having an existential crisis. What the fuck are you doing arguing about football clubs? This is about sports, competition, here and now is all that matters.

I thought Liverpool believe they aren’t English and their King Kenny is bigger than the Queen.

where are your citations m8. becuase UEFA released this exact data and it refutes you.

cool list tho

Kenny Daglish is better than Lizzy doe, he did something real with his life

I get the feeling you’re from one of those castes that spits on workers

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apologies, mister poop

I don't know what you're talking about. Yea Forums gloried in the demise of United.

Atleast Kenny was the last one to win something meaningful for Liverpool. Scotsmen do quite good as Liverpool and United managers.

Obviously m8. Would I be talking about money, math, competition while looking down on Liverpool if I wasn’t? I’m from a different group, Kinda like athletic, smart jews of India. Women here look like monkeys to me.

the liverpool socceroos seem to get under the skin of you people. you're using hated of the city as justification. do you also disavow the beatles?

i bandwagon millwall. "no one likes us, we don't care" is fantastic. i hope they stay up this year.

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