Did man utd make the wrong decision of hiring him too fast before the season was over?

>No manager is going to do well there under those circumstances.
>le pretend you're hard done by club after £1bn spent since SAF left whilst clubs like Newcastle, Wolves and Arsenal exist

>Shaw-Bailly-Lindelöf-Dalot

That's a £100m young defense. Nevermind all the rest they have.

Well, he went all Manure and broke his verbal commitment with Molde. I respected him as a player, but he can go to hell and lick SAF anus there.

It’s not about money.

Fucking what? Are you literally going 'Woodward made all these terrible purchases and then played them badly'?

>Woodward made all these terrible purchases
That’s what happened.

>That’s what happened.

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Nice non-argument post.

Oh, sorry. I thought we were making random bullshit posts backed up by nothing other than your desperate denial to somehow place blame on a boogeyman whilst actual objectively bad boogeyman exist on other teams which hamper them worse. I thought that is what we were doing.

Oh look another non argument. It must be really easy for you to win arguments with such infallible skills.

Seems to have defeated you with frightening ease. But I suspect a bag of hair would stump you.

Are you really so dense to think that Mourinho, the most egotistical manager on Earth, went to Man U and did not have a say on the signings?

Did you miss the part where he spent 2 years complaining about his lack of control over signings?

Totally not Mouyes screeching to explain the reason he's flopping.

I reckon so, there was literally no reason to rush it so much. Ole wasn't going anywhere, had they waited, they'd have got a better grasp of United under him but instead they hyped themselves up somehow and just made him full time when he was completely happy filling in

That's not even to say he's a bad manager, it's just retarded to appoint him so quickly when you can genuinely wait till the end of the Session

>Arsenal are shit so United shouldn’t complain about being shit

I'll give Ole another season to craft the team he wants before passing judgement.

He's done more with Mouyes's team than Mouyes did and having to rely on Ashley Young as a fullback is on Mouyes.

You think Mourinho only wanted Fred last summer?

All of the signings under Mourinho have underperformed and Mourinho wanted to spend more money on defenders after getting Lindelof and Baily and doing nothing with them.

389 million pounds spent. Mouyes wanted Alexis to ensure City didn't get him and United are now saddled with an overpaid, washed up player.

But sure, let's trust Mouyes. The guy who wanted to trade Martial for Perisic as well.

If Liverpool spent 1/5th what gaynited spent since SAF left, they would have a dynasty tier squad winning frequent trebles

Mouyes was clear-sighted enough to understand that the club needed a complete overhaul. Who doesn't agree with that now, he was an early adopter of the "get rid of the nostalgia crap" that the customers are crying about today.

However we all know that Mouyes is a deeply flawed individual as well, inflexible, makes bad and expensive mistakes and tries to shift the blame onto others. Poonited have been unlucky to have a poor board and a succession of poor managers (why has it always got be 100% one person's fault on this board.) Mouyes could have done the job but he made too many mistakes and couldn't handle the player-power silliness and expensive flops.

They signed him because all their other options quickly disappeared. Zidane went back to Madrid. poch is going to cost a fortune and may not even want to come. Jardim is back with Monaco. Who is there? They did it to save themselves some embarrassment and to look as if they're completely behind ole.

>Be manager
>Get a 3 years contract
>Fail on purpose
>Get sacked
>Get the 3 years contract money
>Repeat next year at another club

Poch would have signed for them if they just waited u til summer

This is correct. Also the first sack should be Woodward, he’s been overpaying for shit for what, a decade now?

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>. Who is there?
Conté, Allegri, Simeone

Great, more of that brilliant football that everyone loves.

>Implying Ole's "football" is any better

Yes

If the board hadn't signed him people would be accusing them of sabotaging Ole's season by not offering him their full support. The fuckup was appointing someone who might actually want to stay instead of a 100% short term option like Chelsea did before. The second he got some momentum they were trapped.

Zidane is responsible for this.
They fell for the historic player leads to a good manager of the same team he once led to glory meme

>The second he got some momentum they were trapped.
You'd have to be a retarded blindfuck not to have realized Ole was just fucking lucky in most games and it was bound to turn around.

That £1bn is not working out purely because the game and the league has changed.

Here’s what United/Woodward needed to do
1. Sell/Drop all SAF players (including De Gea). Klopp/Pep were ruthless
2. Hire manager and buy players that reflect the new dominant styles in the premier league

The biggest slight of hand that SAF did was tricking everyone into thinking his style of play was still dominant in the 2010s when they had lost multiple finals to Barca’s tiki-taka. At the end of his reign, SAF’s footballing philosophy was seriously out of date.

You must be unaware of the situation there. They aren't going to sign those style of managers. Allegri would've been interesting though I think

United aren’t Chelsea. Chelsea is ruthless. United hired 4/5 last managers with English connections (Moyes, Giggs, Mou and Ole). Liverpool did the same after Benitez (Roy, Dalglish, Rodgers). Chelsea will just say fuck it and bring in foreign managers for the hell of it.

Chelsea? Conte, Sarri, Hiddink, Ancelotti, AVB.

Ole’s biggest problems are he has already failed in the premier league and his style of play is out of date and used by no top team. The board should’ve known that.

The one thing mou was absolutely right about is these players not being good enough/not having a winning mentality. Until they clear deadwood and sell guys like martial (pogba too even though he's their best player) they will never be anywhere near the top again.

United should sell 8/11 players.

For comparison, Liverpool only have Firmino/Milner/Henderson left from starting 11 of 16/17. City have Aguero/Silva/Fernandinho as consistent starters.

Talking like this, that's a yikes from me

of course they did. For a couple months his tactics worked and players worked extra hard after Mourinho was gone.
Emery found out his tactics and ever since
erybody knows how to beat them. Ole panicked, and now he lost the plot, playing Lindelof as a fullback, Rashford as cf, Martial on the wing.

If United spent £6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 buying Ben Yedder would that mean they now have the best squad?
Just because you waste a bunch of money doesn’t mean shit.

This.

And no, Pochettino would not have joined your failing franchise, Spurs are already a far better team than United.

I'm not sure I agree with that. Nobody was going to be too upset with Woodward if he sent Ole packing after United fell well short in the races for the Top 4, FA Cup and CL (which very much looks like happening). Failing in all three of those races would demonstrate that Ole doesn't really have what it takes to take United to another level and would diminish the early hype surrounding him. He should have only ever been a nice post-Mou palate cleanser - keeping him around carries the risk of another wasted season or two with minimal potential for elevating the team to actual title challenger territory. When this appointment doesn't work out people are going to turn on Woodward and ask why he didn't take this opportunity to hire a manager who could realistically aspire to take United to another level.

If Liverpool has United’s board and Woodward they would have spent £450m on bench players and Liverpool would be struggling for 6th.

>Emery found out his tactics and ever since erybody knows how to beat them

Nah, I wouldn't give Arselel any credit for that. Emery is a meme and they were very fortunate to win that game. Give credit where it's due, Wolves beat them twice and outplayed them both times.

United should’ve stuck with Van Gaal, desu.

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Unironically this.

It sounds like Mouyes didn't fit the bill because he himself couldn't adjust.

Like I said, I still give Ole a season and this summer to see how he overhauls the squad.

There's no point getting the axe out for Ole so early when he's doing the best he can with the squad Mouyes and Woodward left behind.

If he flops next season, sure get the axe but Mouyes wasn't lighting it up in the UCL as well. Losing to Sevilla lmao.

Realistically who else would be available? Zidane returned to Madrid and I doubt Poch would take a step down to United.

Nonsense. I’ll give you one from just google, Eusebio Di Francesco, dismissed from Roma this year.

If United can’t get premium managers they should go for decent managers for top 4 teams in other leagues.

Ole will fail. His style of play doesn’t work at the top.

>Ole is letting Pogba fuck his wife just to keep his job

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They've too many shitters and underperformers in the team.

Get rid of BOSS, Bailly, Jones, Young, Rojo, Valencia, Fred, Pereira, JLingz and the gorilla upfront.

>Another bunch of park the bus and try to win 1-0 managers

Would go down a treat at Old Trafford.

>Get rid of BOSS
easier said than done

The Chinese wil take him.

You forgot poobag

Who would take all those penalties?

Why would he go to China when he can bang Manchester slags.

paul pogba, world cup winning midfielder, is one of the brightest talents of his generation and a boon to any side. hell, united let the guy go for basically free and bought him back for 100m euros. you don't do something as stupid as that unless the guy is really special

What is with everyone wanting only the top managers?

United can’t get the best managers if they are a dysfunctional mess. They can settle for 2nd tier managers, from 2nd tier clubs, Sevilla/Roma, etc etc.

United should buy Kante, Giroud and Griezmann to unlock him.

>Irish flag
>Anti-Arsenal
Yup. That's a Yikeroo from me, Fitizen. Emery is a meme though, I agree, but to say he didn't tactically rekt Ole is just pure historic revisionism. Come on, I thought Liverpoo customers were all knowledgable about history?

Checked. But I doubt even the chinks will pay £600k a week for him.

why not sign that bald cunt from ajax he plays offensive footy and looks like he knows what he’s doing

You're talking like this you flying faggot

10 hags is being carried by this roster of Ajax players. Imagine going from De Jong to Fred.

Yes.

Woodward is retarded but so are the fans and the media who were all saying he 'had' to get the job. Not finishing in the top 4 when it was on a plate for you isn't grounds for someone deserving a job, IMO.

Woodward is retarded for giving him a three year deal as well. Nobody knows how it's gonna go so, at the most, give him two years. He did the same stupid shit with Moyes and extended Mou's contract midway through last season, only two months before he lost to fucking Sevilla and all the fanbase turned on him. Not to mention, he's given new contracts to shitters like Smalling and Jones.

he was an obvious temp manager, former player and likeable guy that knew the club, but no real high level experience to speak of. why the fuck would they actually give him the job after a good but short run of relatively easy games? they must have known this was not due to his managerial skills alone, but getting a new start. if they succumbed to the media pressure and ole memes alone i would laugh my ass off.

>look! he defeated PSG! He's obviously the real deal!

they said the same of mourinho and his porto in 2003 and he went to win a bunch of trophies after that team got dismantled, hagman has good players but he’s doing a good job with them

don’t know i definitely think it’s worth a try, the timing is too good for me it just feels right, if ole doesn’t make top4 it’s a good excuse

I just think Man United makes some weird fucking signings and contract renewals, why the fuck are they signing shitters like Sanchez and getting Young and Jones to stay at the club for even longer?

Woodward. He is directly responsible for Shaw getting a reported five year deal on £190,000. As soon as he signed his extension Mourinho job was over, he hated Shaw.

not really. alex was simply too good. man u are at their natural level

Gee you think?

Cucknited hasn't made an intelligent move for over a decade. Players got a bit excited after their strike got Mouyo booted. Won some games. Omgwefoundourmanaga.mp3.

Fuck off delusional bong cucks

yes, he's ok tacitly, but the biggest problem is that he's never been proven building a squad, like who the hell is he gonna bring in, i'm curious, but doutbful

United are stuck in a funk. They aren’t ruthless enough to bring superstar players to replace underperforming like City/PSG/Madrid or intelligent enough to build through 2nd tier players like Liverpool. Since they fail at making superstar signings, they throw that money at their own undeserving players

They should choose the Liverpool route.

Howe would be a good fit for United

Howe really does suck, I'd take Allerdyce over Howe. What they really need is Poch (he plays attacking football and places value on promotong yoof), not sure why they went with Ole over Poch but then again Woodward is a fucking retard and that's been clear for a while now.

For me it's Bruce Arena.

------------------De Gea
--Meunier--Varane--Maguire--Shaw
-------Ndombele----Saul
---Bale---------Dybala--------Sancho
-----------------Icardi

We will be back.

>De Gay
>Shaw

Replace them with Oblak and Sandro and it'll be more realistic

lmao

is this team good enough for 4th in the PL? I have serious doubts

Homegrown quota la

Let's say realistically they can bring in max 6 new signings this summer. So 5 current players must start.

DDG, Shaw, Pogba, Rashford, and whoever the least shit CB is. Then fill in the new team

I'd say get rid of Pogba. He's well overrated & doesn't apply himself. Is majorly inconsistent. How can you ever hope to build a team around a player like that? Doubt he's a very good influencer in the dressing room either. Just another mindless bling black with a buzzcuts who dabs. Don't like his image or his attitude. Think he's bigger than the club. It's poisonous.

fuck liverpool they've been trying for 10 years now

I said a while ago that he was still on trial despite being hired permanently. It was a smart move and they can get rid in the summer if they want to now.

No! Right now he is the best option for Manchester United. He can control disgusting, brainless players like Pogba and everybody in the team likes him and is listening to him. With some good new players he can do great work at ManU, to lose 3:0 against Barcelona is something normal.

>he rates edf

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