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HELLAS? MORE LIKE HELL YES

>cringe
PAOK
Olympiakos
Atromitos
Panionios
OFI
Levadiakos
>onions
AEK
Panetolikos
Asteras
Xanthi
Apollon
>based
Aris
Panathinaikos
PAS Giannena
AEL
Lamia

For sure, the future of Greece is dark if Tsipiras does not win. Thank you for the interesting video.

Lads I think I've become addicted to betting...

Also I want the portuguese user to fugg my boipussy :(

>γραιkιkο kλωτσοσkουφι

Spend your money on alcohol instead

they're like the top budget nowadays, even olympiakos spends less on contracts. It's not really a surprise that they're winning the league

>syrizacucks
The only person I know still voting for them is employed by them
youtube.com/watch?v=OfzjJXyP63M

nah
>based
Aris
Panionios
Asteras
AEL
>nobody cares tier
Panetolikos
Lamia
>cringe tier
PAS Giannena
Apollon
OFI
Atromitos
>cancer
Olympiakos
AEK
Panathinaikos
Xanthi
>kill it with fire
PAOK
Levadiakos

Based mini-Lucescu.

there is a rumour here that before every game he calls his father to ask him how he should set up his team

Eh, he's more than capable himself. He beat his dad once and reached the UEFA Cup quarterfinals, where he was knocked out without losing.

>OFI
top laff

Can I get a quick rundown on greek european places

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>3rd Champions league Qualifying round
Champions (they have to win 1 point in the last 2 games) PAOK. Their record in europe has been piss poor in the past 2 seasons, and they'll probably be unseeded. Still, if they don't qualify for the CL groups again everybody will laugh at them. They've failed like 7 times, but this is the first they will be doing it as champions
>2nd CL qualifying round
Olympiakos, difficult teams in the non-champions path so primary target is to qualify for the EL groups. Winning the league after 2 straight years of losing it (first time this happens in this century) will be priority.
>3rd Europa league qualifying round
AEK Athens, they want to qualify cause cash, but their owner is a cheap fuck who won't give any money for signings because AEK are building their new stadium, which will be ready in 2020 or 2021.
>2nd EL qualifying round
Atromitos, basically PAOK II. Notorious bottlers in Europe, will be a huge surprise if they reach the playoffs, let alone the groups
>2nd EL qualifying round
Aris Thessaloniki, recently promoted but historical club. Decent tradition in europe, haven't played there in 8 years though so they'll be unseeded. Also no money. Would be nice if they made the groups, can't see them doing it though.

Does Iraklis belong in the onions tier?

5th spot doesn't lead to european competitions

Was Aris losing to Atromitos considered to be a slip or are PAOK II actually alright?

PAOK II have the lowest average attendance in the league

>Le "President spits in a player's face" AEL
>Based
This is why Greek teams never get past group stages

it does though, unless Lamia or Asteras win the cup which ain't happening (both lost 2-0 on their semis)

Atromitos is a good team tbqh, they have better players than Aris. Many of them are on loan from PAOK though, which is why they're called PAOK 2.

He spit in a PAOK's player face though, which is why he's based

The fact that it's a PAOK player makes this acceptable since I literally popped a cork when Bakayoko and Kessie fucked around with Acerbi's shirt.

Are there ever streams for greek games or are they not televised anywhere

Of course there are, what question is this?

I only know about Aris matches and they're all televized. God bless Tsipras

I always find streams in rojadirecta, public TV is also airing like 2-4 games per matchday. The rest (most big games too) are on NOVASPORTS, you need to pay like 50 euros per year for the full package.

Most of these games are shit though, most of the teams this year were awful, which is why PAOK is winning the league undefeated.

Must just be me because whenever I've looked for an Aris game, nothing but text commentary or dead sites. Where do I look for them?

Thanks

my neighbor is greek

he generally hates greek football, but he is a PAOK fan

Why would you wannna waste your time by watching shit leagues?

Just following Aris' redemption arc, I don't have any interest in watching horse fuckers vs postmen.

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Still more entertaining than Ligue 1

did you buy makeleio last weekend? or do you go to gay parades with the syriza youth?

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every greek that is healthy in his mind hates greek football. every greek football fan I know only watches the derbies and the european games(if any) and just stays away from normal league games because almost all the greek superleague teams are shit. derbies are fun because you never know which act of degeneracy the ultras will pull off next. if the ultras fail to deliver you can count on retards like savidis to pour oil in the fire.

Παναγία μου γίναμε αριστερή ομάδα
>inb4 no football
στμπουτσαμ

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ah yes, the infamous left leaning, working class supporters or panathinaikos. straight out of the ghettos in kifisia and the northern suburbs

*actually beats ac milan*

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>Eight (8) points away from PAOK
PAOK > Milan...?
Also, we need a flowchart for the Superleague, I need to decide which team to bandwagon since fucking Chania isn't coming up in a million years.

tbqh nobody watches Levadiakos - Xanthi unless they support either team but most people follow their teams and watch most games
Hopefully with the restructuring next year the league will become more interesting

he's our best player but not our most valuable
we have a guy named mady kamara, mark my words he's gonna be playing in major club in 3 years from now. He's the new yaya toure.

>restructuring
Whats gonna happen

Now we have 16 teams, from next year it's gonna be 14 teams (and probably 12 teams soon after that).
The idea is to have less Xanthi vs Levadeiakos and more Olympiakos vs PAOK, Panathinaikos vs AEK etc, which should increase revenue and make teams more competitive
Also VAR from next year so that's a good sign too

Juve 1 & over 2.5
Porto G/G & over 2.5
what do you think?

>Less teams
>More revenues
Having studied Serie A's changing structure over the years, that is going to backfire so fucking hard it's not even funny.
That you should never bet on Italian teams until you need to launder money

12 sounds kino but how will you fill the space between games

fuck, is Berlusconi back even stronger now?

I bought the issue. We're setting up a grill day with the lads for 21st of April. ΠΘΟ my man.

My city is crawling of Greek malakas, take them back please.

>Entire capital: thoroughly fucked
>Mediaset: in the hands of a family who want to distance it from political past
>Milan: Either owned by Elliott or soon to be sold to the best bidder
Nah he's basically a "what if we let Mussolini" live situation right now, old delusional man who is completely out of touch with reality.

Playoffs
Regular season is 11+11=22 matches
Next you have championship+relegation playoffs,6 teams for each, so you have an additional 10 matches, aka 32 in total.

We will see, the biggest problem with the current system is that there are many teams in the first category which have no fanbases and survive solely on TV rights money. They want to cut down on teams like that with the new system. The restructuring is pushed mainly by NOVA and public TV who have the rights to the games.

Atromitos is 4th while it sells the fewest tickets in the whole league

>Crawling with malakas
>Misread that as "Malakia"
>mfw
youtube.com/watch?v=sG1IH1vCvko
Teams lack fans from what I've seen when a handful have a fucking stranglehold over the top positions, which is the problem with the Superleague, but also La Liga and Ligue 1. Those leagues are richer and have a larger pool of talent, though, which makes up for that.
The solution would have Superleague/Football League (why the fuck didn't it stay Alpha/Beta/Gamma Ethniki) teams actually not be fucking sponges and perform better, My ideal solution would be fine the top teams for some retarded reason and literally send PAOK back to the Regional Division, should free up a lot of fans. Especially bandwagoning fags.

The malakes are the least of the problems you have created for yourselves up there, Sven.

I think we'll be good at 14. 12 is a bit too few, and we risk missing a few meme matches with shitter teams that nobody cares about vs. a big 4 team and the big team loses.

Biggest problem with the league is that it's not reliable too. Refs influence too much, hooligans have turned away families and normal people from the stadiums, governments outright favor specific teams, etc.
Tons of problems tbqh, it will take decades to fix this mess (if it's ever going to be fixed)

I mean the English "fixed" their league (Thatcher the cunt almost drove it to the ground) and we fixed ours, the Greek Superleague isn't impossible. The real problem is enacting reforms (which teams like PAOK are against, which makes it near fucking impossible with how much sway they hold) or finding the resources to fix some issues. Which is a shame.

Perhaps the teams need a Thatcher-like approach and just outright ban them from playing outside Greece for a couple of years. But even then I doubt the retards will ever learn. Even moderate fans (ie, fans but not quite ultras) still believe that the whole apeshit behaviour during a match "adds to the atmosphere" and other bullshit. There's little hope.

Α'/Β'/Γ' Εθνιkή was much better indeed. It was properly Greek. "Super League" and "Football League" sound like Tesco's own brand Premier League knockoff.

Tesco? It sounds like fucking Aldi, which is cheaper than Tesco.
Actually, no, it sounds like fucking EUROSPIN's Premier League knock-off. It's straight up dumpster diving after that.

PAOK have lost some of their power lately tbqh, the restructuring passed against their wishes, and today their candidate for the footballing federation's presidency lost to AEK's candidate (who was also supported by Olympiakos, Panathinaikos and Aris).
Starting to believe that this year was a fluke, paokniggers are probably done from next year onwards.

Thatcher ruined english football for like a decade, and if a country like England with its footballing culture took so much to recover we never will.

If PAOK chokes in every conceivable way next year I'll buy ten Chania shirts I swear.

Do Greeks consider Giannis Greek? Does Giannis even consider himself Greek?

Yes

As Greek as Skortsianitis was back in the day. Which is to say not at all.

yes and yes

kek not comparable in the slightest

schortsianitis had a greek parent, only the most hardcore golden dawn members didn't consider him greek.

Giannis is different, he has no greek blood in him. Most people still love him and consider him greek, but only because he's successful. If he was a nobody he wouldn't be considered one.

>forgets Oprita's valid goal that was denied in the 1st game and the obvious foul before their only goal of the 2 games
mori tigane

wow you retards actually create /hell/ generals now

>schortsianitis
There are no white genes in him. His mother probably cucked his dad with some other nigger.

Those "most people" only call him Greek when he's winning here or at NBA, and then nigger when he's losing. Same goes for his brother, which everyone seems to have forgotten about. The rest are some delusional retards who'll suck nigger cock and virtue signal wherever they can, like gazetta and sport24.

The antetokoumbos aren't Greek.

Thank god for that roach with the huehue proxy. First we take Yea Forums then Constantinople.

I'm sick of seeing the same 100 big league threads everyday tbqh, fucking plastics and zoomers only care about big teams nowadays.
What happened to /watchourleague/ generals anyway? Those were fun

Gonna be for the dick today here. This thread is going to be my refuge from all the messiposting. I just hope it doesn't die until then.

You're literally cucking yourselves if you don't vote Syriza.

Meet my gf lads
youtube.com/watch?v=DMKkdgF8NhM

t. sipras

>sipras

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Based

give me like a few minutes/hours and i'll make one

only zoomercucks vote for syriza, and public sector leeches

which one is the nazi club

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>Argentinian
>"Nazi"
Like fucking clockwork

>all these aris fans itt

absolutely disgusting

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>What happened to /watchourleague/ generals anyway? Those were fun
Friday is a good day to bring back /wol/. I haven't made one in a long time.

>fucking plastics and zoomers only care about big teams nowadays
Come to /seriea/, we have an Albanian Berlusconi fanboy constantly seething over Milan and sperging out at everything and anything

t*rk spotted

done
could've done it better, but if anyone wants to make their own instead then do it

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None really
Clubs (or club ultras to be more accurate) have political affiliations though

Panionios and AEK fans are antifa trash, they hate each other a lot though. Atromitos ultras are also antifa.
Iraklis fans are anarchists, and major autists btw.
Olympiakos - Panathinaikos are a mixed bag, lots of antifags and lots of golden dawnies in both sides. Panathinaikos ultras used to have a nazi subgroup (named ΝΟΠΟ).
Aris fans hate muslims and turks, despite being called jews they're probably the most conservative on average.
PAOK fans are complete mongs, the small majority which are greek though (the rest are mostly gypsies, turks and bulgarians) are mostly golden dawn

For me, it's Kleftiko.

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>levadiakos
kek
pretty good, will probably make a few changes when I have some time

Nigger I'm stelist.

do all south macedonian clubs have persecution complex a la liverpool? I thought it was only PAOK at the beginning but now I'm beginning to think differently.

not a very bad chart tbqh

>south macedonian

spotted the shyttiza voter

Having seen enough of all 3 clubs, I think I have it down up to a point.
Iraklis fans hate the government/system/federation/shadow overlords or something, but in a non very specific way. Someone is after them, but I'm not sure they know what it is.
Aris fans don't like Athens, they hate almost everyone really, but they fucking despise PAOK more than anything. I recently joined a super3 forum and the shit they right there about PAOK had me rolling on the floor, it's comical how much they hate these faggots. Which is why whenever I see an Aris "supporter" online claiming that he likes it that PAOK is winning the league I'm sure it's a PAOKnigger larping. The ones seething the most about PAOK winning the league are Aris fans.

PAOK fans are the easiest to decode. They're the greatest and most historical team in Greece, and the only reason they have 2 league titles instead of 30 is because the souf (and Athens in particular) hates them. If it wasn't for the Athenian governments scheming against PAOK, they would have 30 league titles, 20 cups and 3 Champions League trophies by now, that's unironically what they believe.
Which is why they adore pablo garcia more than any player, despite the fact that he won nothing with them. The PAOK fan wants his players to reinforce his persecution complex, he doesn't care about trophies despite the fact that he claims he should have won all of them.
When Pablo Garcia punched that Olympiakos player, he became a club legend. It was a symbol of the norf striking back against the Athens oppression. He condemned his team to defeat that day and disqualification from the cup. But when he returned he was a hero, and everyone praised him. That's when I realized how fucking retarded these faggots are.
video btw:
youtube.com/watch?v=3ubJ8txPgXk

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it's a joke numbnuts, i'm the guy who posted the makeleio 21st of april hits. most people that use this term are not actual voters but people using it in an ironic manner to make fun of this whole shitshow of an agreement

To add to this, AEK are part of the "Fratellanza Degli Originali" with Livorno and Marseille, which are the teams with the most left-leaning fans who reached major levels.
I did hear some idiots from PAOK were out doing Roman salutes in the stands as well as being associated with organized crime and Golden Dawn. Shit gave me enough 2006 Juve flashbacks to put them permanently on my shitlist.
>OFI Crete
GOD DAMN IT

>PAOK fans are complete mongs
top laff thanks user

>i'm the guy who posted the makeleio 21st of april hits
Wow man mad respect ,i wish i could be as BADASS as you

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thanks mate, I try my best

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I want AEL to succeed so much i miss the glory days when we were a top club, sucks that we have the absolute shittest fanbase

so would you say we have a norf vs souf situation of our own? who is ngubu in this case? also what is the greek version of greggs?
we could easily make a meme out of this by replacing pic related with a mutt with sleeve tattoos with a frappe in hand and a pack of old holborn in his waist pocket or simply a guy like this youtube.com/watch?v=SC0AsLWF7hg

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That feel when no greek gf

>who is ngubu in this case
ο αμπελαλε

akpom is basically the ngubu sterotype

"Get in there Ngubu my son" is whatever negro team owners find on a refugee boat and they brand as the Greek star of this year. As for Gregg's, don't we have Gregory's?

BASED

reminder that Panathinaikos is the only chad flow

>Panathinaikos
youtube.com/watch?v=ysnoRO7MYlQ
Also, that would make Pescara the Panathinaikos of Serie B

>Βορειαkος vs Νοτιαkος
>μη φυγεις Πιου
>τυροπιτα απ'του γρηγορη

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>τυροπιτα
>οχι μπουγάτσα

pretty spot on

i'm pretty sure pao fans are also seething about paok winning the league unbeaten

bumping

does sergio oliveira play? is he good?

he's been pretty ok from what little i've seen from him

he's played about half the matches of the second half of the season, scored a few goals