Why can argentina make so many genius GOAT managers and brazil have never made even one?

why can argentina make so many genius GOAT managers and brazil have never made even one?

anyone explain this to me please? this isnt meant to be a race bait troll thread its just strange to me

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argies are better at maths, while brazillians are better at dancing

>argentina
>genius GOAT managers
like who?
luxemburgo alone has contributed more to the history of football by changing Sergio Ramos from a fullback to a CB than anything any argentinian manager has ever done, period.

Every brazilian manager is a mourinho but older

Because Argentines have a firm way of speaking. While as soon as you hear a braindead monkey voice known as portuguese no one pays attention or takes it seriously. Dissolve that language already.

not OP but off the top of my head bielsa simeone martino and pochettino and thats just in the last decade

The day of beheading is near Shitcano

Because Brazilians have no organizational skills, Rajesh.

>luxemburgo alone has contributed more to the history of football by changing Sergio Ramos from a fullback to a CB
ehhhhh

Brazilians are more attracted to the selfish showboating bling bling shit than the slow paced and meticulous nature of managerial work

if Argies make genius GOAT coaches, then why haven't their national team win a title since 1993?
why are they wasting the most talented player of all time?

because Argentines themselves have no respect for authority.

Helenio Herrera

Because it's better to work for a club rather than for a corrupt FA

>bielsa simeone martino and pochettino
those are all shite m8
simeone is the only one with a relevant title and that's thanks to Barça and RM choking

kek

It's because argentine players are worse, so the way they found to make continental cups less predictable was to have better tactics

brazil had based didi. made us look like world beaters

bro we just rely on talent, fuck that pretentious tactical bullshit just give it to your best player and whatever happens happens lmao

>Who is Zagallo

Same reason Zidane is the best manager from African origins, he's less black than the others

I guess they're white after all

Bilardo invented the 3-5-2 formation that is still in use by people like Conte, won a world cup with that, and made another world cup final with that.

and this guy invented playing like Simeone does, and popularized many things that now are universal standards

"Zubeldía was a harbinger of tactical changes; he was the first manager to thoroughly research rival team's tactics and playing style. Pre-planned plays off free kicks and tactical fouls to stop rival advances were highly criticized at the time, but have since been adopted by virtually every team in the world. So are other practices, like the offside trap (having the defense step forward in sync to force opposing players into an offside position) and using screens at corner kicks. "

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osvaldo_Zubeldía

he won Copa Libertadores 3 times in the 60s with Estudiantes, a small team from a city that now has 800.000 people, comparable to Zaragoza in Spain, and in which half of the people support the rival team.
He beat Manchester United at the Copa Interamericana

this is a pretty good article about him if anybody is interested

thesefootballtimes.co/2017/03/29/osvaldo-zubeldia-the-gambler-pragmatist-villain-and-innovator/

I think Brasil is largely the reason why we have coaches of this style. Argentina has a smaller population than the state of Sau Paulo. There are 5 Brazilians for every Argentine, and many of them are also black or part black, which makes them better athletes (modern ngubus dominating Europe isn't a coincidence. Blacks are better at this)

In order to be able to compete with Brasil, you have to use your inferior resources as well as it's possible. So you end up with very autistic coaches.

Tactics are for fags

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Real whites like Brits or Scandis suck at managing, and Germans produce more players than coaches

GOAT managers are from Meditarranean origins (Italian, French, Spanish), and we happen to be a mix of these ethnicities

True we are brazil tier when it comes to managers. i think its your italian blood desu theyre the best at it

no argentine has managed to make an argentine club the best team of the year, but Telê Santana made São Paulo the best team in the world in 1992
Tele's international titles in São Paulo:
Troféu Teresa Herrera 1992 (São Paulo 4x1 Cruyff's Barcelona;Real Madrid 0x4 São Paulo)
Club World Cup: 1992(Cruyff's Barcelona) and 1993(Milan)
Copa Libertadores da América: 1992 and 1993
Supercopa Libertadores: 1993
Recopa Sul-Americana: 1993 and 1994

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And he was the manager of Brazil in 1982 one of the best teams in history

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I think it's more of a cultural thing than managerial skills tbf

Argentina is much closer to the european culture than us, therefore is easier to integrate specially in Mediterranean countries.

Larry David has more titles with two different teams

Vélez Sarsfield

Argentine Primera División (3): 1993 Clausura, 1995 Apertura, 1996 Clausura
Copa Libertadores (1): 1994
Intercontinental Cup (1): 1994
Copa Interamericana (1): 1994 (AC Milan)

Boca Juniors

Argentine Primera División (4): 1998 Apertura, 1999 Clausura, 2000 Apertura, 2003 Apertura
Copa Libertadores (3): 2000, 2001, 2003
Intercontinental Cup (2): 2000, 2003 (Real Madrid, AC Milan)

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It's not just for the number of titles, nobody cared about the libertadores in Brazil before him, and you can win the intercontinental cup but for a team to be the best in the world it's way harder. Cruyff: "That December [1992], we [Barça] lost the Intercontinental Cup match against São Paulo 2–1. It was one of the few times that I had no problems with a defeat. I've always admired the Brazilian coach Telê Santana for his vision, because it always displayed a genuine love of football."

All good managers a white.

Regardless, Brazil did have good managers, such as Zagallo. All were white.

*are white

Fix'd.

Also, that's not a racist statement, just an observation. Pure fact. I myself don't even know the reason... Would Pelé have been a good manager? Don't know.

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>Germans produce more players than coaches
Everyone does

Kek, oh the british and their delusion

True dat, And our best coaches don't want to take charge of it look it up

>Bianchi
(won everything with Boca Juniors and Velez Sarsfield) Never got the chance in his prime because AFA's head manager didn't like him
>Pekerman
>Sabella
>Basile
These last 3 quit because AFA picked players without their consent.
>Simeone
Doesn't want to
>Gallardo
Doesn't want to
>Pochettino
Doesn't want to

So we end up with shit like Sampaoli, Maradona, Batista.

Bielsa was the worst of them all, and still is.

>CTRL+F
>No Menotti
Bunch of amateurs

Brazil's average iq is probably about the same as yours while Argentina's is probably close to a 100