Is this the right board to talk about Ju Jutsu, specifically German Ju Jutsu? I am 27, have no martial arts training except for 2 years of olympic wrestling in primary school. Went to a GJJ club yesterday and participated; it was fun. However, since the group is mostly blue belts and up, they don't spend a lot of time drilling the basics like falling. I realize that learning those before diving into actual fights (or even more complex combined techniques) is important, and that's what I want to do; I'm just unsure how to go about it. Some questions:
1. I read that JJ is practiced in a dojo. Does this mean that it is frowned upon to meet up with group members outside the dojo to practice? 2. With whom should I train? The other newbies may be more experienced than I am, but they're not competent enough to teach yet. The medium-tier members could show me stuff, but they are there to learn, themselves, and they can't do that when they have to spend 90 minutes showing me the ropes. The black belts are there to teach, but pretty much occupied with teaching the medium-tier members. 3. Should I focus on one specific technique at a time (i.e. practice only side falls for a few weeks and nothing else) or group 2-3 techniques together per training session / over a certain period of time until I feel competent? 4. My vision is strongly impaired, to the point where I can only see clearly within a handspan of my eyes. I usually wear glasses, but that's obviously not an option when fighting / practicing how to protect my head. Can I get away with fighting basically blind? I can see when there's someone in front of me, I can judge distances, but I couldn't, for example, recognize someone's face without glasses unless they're uncomfortably close. I do have some contact lenses, but I haven't been wearing them often. They're long-term ones, the hard ones. It has happened that they slipped under an eyelid (very uncomfortable) during normal daily use. Should I get used to wearing them?
Why do a completely inferior version of Ju Jitsu when BJJ exists?
Ayden Cook
I'm not so big on cuddling with men. I feel like completely forgoing strikes and kicks, and focusing solely on grappling is detrimental to the value it has as a self defence tool. And there are no BJJ clubs close by.
Liam Morgan
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Jaxon Campbell
Thank.
Bentley Taylor
Not going to read all that but I also train bjj, just keep turning up. You will suck for the best part of a year, but keep turning up at least 3 times a week and your rate of progression will be crazy at the start
Carter Martin
Yea Forums is the mandrama containment board, nothing else gets posted there. Real sports are welcome on Yea Forums, even niche ones.
Daniel Bailey
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if motivation goes down. Right now I'm hyped. I am looking to do GERMAN JJ, not BJJ. Here's a TLDR: >meeting up to train outside the dojo: OK or not? >who should I ask to babysit me: noobies, green/blue/brown belts, black belts? >focus on one technique per session / per week, or mix it up every time? >I'm basically blind, should I get accustomed to contacts or is fighting a blurry human shape going to work?
Jaxson Brooks
if the resident teacher isn't bothering to teach you the basics then you're at a bad dojo and you should look for a better one give it a couple more sessions though as it's possible they didn't bother with you because most newbies quit after a session or two, but if after that they still are basically treating you like furniture then get the fuck out of there you'd also be better off learning actual ju jutsu, BJJ or just judo rather than whatever the fuck "german ju jutsu" is. sounds like a mcdojo thing to me
Lincoln Bennett
You should first focus on getting fit. And this means fit for combat, not fit for beach season.
Sepcifically you have to imrpove your stamina as well as the strength of your upper body/arms. Good training is running for stamina and push-ups/pull-ups for body strength. The golden rules is: Do not use any training equipment besides your own body. Don't listen to any gay /fit/fags about some alleged benefits from "lifting". Also don't use any smaller weights for high rep exercises. You need to get in touch with your own body. Only exeption is: you can use rubber bands for effective training of your back and lower upper body.
Good luck.
Austin Turner
The elder black belt guy actually did spend most of the session with me, going into more detail so that I could do the same exercises as the others. But yeah, good point. No point in staying if I'm not brought up to speed. I suggest you read about it. It comes from judo + karate + (olympic) wrestling + boxing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_ju-jutsu
I have been lifting weights for a few years, stamina was not an issue at all and neither was strength. I didn't go for the gay body building shit either, I just did heavy compound exercises and pullups. That doesn't build big bulging muscles, it builds raw muscle strength. What I DO lack is body control to efficiently employ the strength I have in situations other than controlled weight lifting. >don't use any smaller weights for high rep exercises Saying this and at the same time advocating calisthenics is kind of contradictory from a strength training standpoint, though I can imagine that calisthenics will improve Körpergefühl and control.
Hunter Sanders
>My vision is strongly impaired, can't you wear lenses instead of glasses?
Brody Green
Just do Judo.
Daniel Cooper
1. Not frowned upon in America. There's also no need to do it anywhere outside of dojo unless you're richfag with mats in your home gym. 2. If your instructor and higher belts can't handle instructing your class it is a bad gym. Leave and find another. 3. At the start it doesn't matter. Work on everything and try to do everything mechanically right before you add speed. If you're getting overwhelmed then try to focus on a few techniques. 4. I don't know what German JJ is but as long as there aren't head strikes you can wear contacts just fine. If you're not working stand up grappling you don't need glasses or contacts.
t. 6 years wrestling, 10 years BJJ
Jace Clark
Read again what I wrote and think. I explicitly told you not to use weight and you tell me you already did. And what you call Körpergefühl and control is exactly why I told you not to use any weights or trainings equipment and this is they reason why. Don't make any retarded training plan like sets 30 of push-ups (depending on how much you weight/how bad your fitness condidion is). You have to get in touch with your own body. Say you train for two hours. Start running. Make stopps for doing some pull-ups or push-ups depending on how you feel). Don't do this: I ran the first 4km, time for the first set of 30 push-ups, after the next 3km, do the first set of pull-ups.
Do not get any routine in it. To get a basic fitness you have to abolish every routine. This is the whole point of it.
For balance/stamina you can do off-road mountainbiking. For balance/strength try climbing.
Caleb Cook
Don't listen to him. If you don't use weights or resistence bands you can't simulate outer forces that get applied to your body similar to when you are wrestling with your opponent. Make sure to do a wide range of different movements so that you give your body enough information for him to find more effective ways to move and reduce potential undertrained bodyparts
Ryder Myers
Read the fucking post. I'm not used to them yet and there's a chance they would slip behind my eyelids (basically vanishing in the eyesockets), so I would like to avoid wearing lenses if possible. If the consensus is that vision is necessary, I'll swallow that pill though.
See , same thing applies except Judo doesn't look quite as gay, but is more of a sport and less of a self defence practice. I was considering it but having the option of kicking and punching in addition to throws, pins, chokes etc appeals to me.
Thank you for these answers.
>I explicitly told you not to use weight and you tell me you already did Yes, let me go 2 years back in time and keep my past self from becoming stronger. >And what you call Körpergefühl and control is exactly why I told you not to use any weights or trainings equipment I don't see what's wrong with improving muscle strength. I never implied that having done these exercises makes me competent at martial arts, or that it offsets my lack of finesse and technique. All I'm saying is that purely in terms of physical muscle strength and stamina, I am ready to start doing exercises that improve control over my body. >Don't make any retarded training plan like sets 30 of push-ups Why would I do such a retarded training plan? At that point you don't improve pectoral muscle strength; stamina can be improved better by working out the entire body or with a slight focus on larger muscle groups like legs and back. >You have to get in touch with your own body. I know. That's literally what I said. Here, I'll reiterate: I have enough stamina to easily last through practice sessions. I have enough strength for the relatively light loads you have to bear (i.e. lifting about 100 kg of dude with your legs). I KNOW I am lacking body control to perform techniques accurately and quickly at this point; I want to remedy this by doing balance exercises and getting the basic techniques down.
Lincoln White
>judo is cuddling men >did wredtling in school kek what a massive faggot you are!
>At that point you don't improve pectoral muscle strength; stamina can be improved better by working out the entire body or with a slight focus on larger muscle groups like legs and back. Can't believe how much this post reeks of /fit/ lol. Why don't you just do it like these cum slurping faggots and start eating synthetic protein and talk more about fitness plans and muh gainz instead of actually moving you fatass.
Should have noticed what a MäcFit sissy you are at the very beginning where you were worried if it is okay to train outside a dojo.
Easton Wood
Mate why are you so mad? Get off of your high horse. Let me just get this straight: You believe that lifting weights doesn't improve muscle strength?
Oliver Walker
no. I say that muscle strength gained through weight lifting routines is virtually useless in martial arts/combat if you don't intend to sucker punch a one-hit ko and for beginners this is a completely ineffective way (even contradictive way considering you have to spent time on it which you lack for other training methods) to success in martial arts.
Zachary Foster
OK, so you're not delusional, but just lacking in reading comprehension. I'll say it one last time: I never meant to imply that lifting weights is all the fitness training you will ever need to be competent at any martial art. I only mentioned lifting to show that I am not, in fact, a 150 kg lardass or an Auschwitz mode skeleton. If you had, in fact, read my previous posts, you would have noticed that I explicitly said that I lack the control over my body to efficiently utilize my strength in a martial arts context.
Isaac Gomez
Where abouts do you train? How do you make sure the gym you join isn't some fraud shit? MMA isn't too big here in Bongland, I sort of wonder how these bjj gyms are
Aiden Hughes
>Is this the right board to talk about Ju Jutsu, specifically German Ju Jutsu?
No. Go to
Andrew Williams
Just train regular BJJ like a normal human, dont fall for memes like "German, Russian, Dutch, whatever" JJ.
Also, yeah, BJJ is one of the few martial arts where you can start really late and still be good at. You most probably wont be the next Royce Gracie, but even at 27 you could still be pretty good with enough dedication, dont sweat it.
Zachary Perry
>German Ju Jutsu Is that where you let the opponent pass guard at will if they're from a Muslim country?
