The lack of comentary, or any sound for that matter, is disturbing to say the least.
Nathan Nguyen
Magnus "Reddit" carlsen
Blake Wright
Who do >we cheer for?
Adrian Russell
Grischuk obviously.
Nathaniel Martinez
This
Jose Rogers
Bump. Go King.
Landon Howard
Sorry for not being in the thread, I just got back from the gym. I have to do some other things now, but I'll be back in the thread in time for the US Chess Championship final round.
Liam Collins
I wasn't aware of the low quality of the broadcast when I posted it. Grischuk is OK, but you should be cheering for the current World Champion, or maybe the previous one.
Carter King
US Chess Championship, round 11 games:
Samuel Shankland - Fabiano Caruana Jeffery Xiong - Hikaru Nakamura Leinier Dominguez Perez - Timur Gareyev Wesley So - Awonder Liang Aleksandr Lenderman - Samuel Sevian Ray Robson - Varuzhan Akobian
I'm not going to do any thoughts and observations, even someone with a triple-digit rating can see that there are three extremely important games and three unimportant ones. With the women's championship being decided yesterday, you can even expect the commentary to focus on these important games in the final round.
Michael Lee
So are we doing a general now ? Also, isn't a four way tie theorically possible ?
Yes, if Shankland beats Caruana, Xiong beats Nakamura, Gareyev beats Dominguez with black and So beats Liang, but how likely is that? I can easily see So beating Liang, but not the three other results, even individually.
Jackson Walker
>you can even expect the commentary to focus on these important games in the final round. Wrong. Shahade will ensure that muh wimmin get a good amount of coverage
Camden Sullivan
>but how likely is that The odds are around one in 1 204, which is honestly higer than I expected. Leiner has the lowest odds of losing and So has high odds of winning.
Bentley Gray
>The odds are around one in 1 204 How doth thou figure?
Justin White
If you did the math, I'll take your word for it.
Anthony Ramirez
Took the elo rating of each player, then ran them through a win probability calculator that I found online, and then multplied the probability of all the desired event together, then inversed it to get odds. I was thinking of using tpr but couldn't be bothered as even with an online calculator it would have literaly taken an hour or so, and i couldn't find them online. I just used live elo instead.
>If you did the math, I'll take your word for it. Which begs the question : how the fuck does the tiebrakers work in a 3 or 4 way tie ? The first tie breaker criteria is head to head, but how does that even work with more than 2 player ?
Here is the list of tiebraker from chess24 :
Points scored Direct encounter Most games played with Black Koya Sonneborn-Berger Wins Rating
Landon Lewis
There is precedence for this. In 2014, Akobian, Lenderman and Kamsky tied for first. Akobian and Lenderman then played a tiebreak, and the winner (Akobian) met Kamsky (Kamsky won).
If a three-way tie, I expect the same process, with the player with the best tiebreak getting the luxury of playing the winner of the two other ones.
Isaac Hernandez
Why are Russians so good at chess but so bad at running a country?
Andrew Hughes
>and then multplied the probability of all the desired event together, then inversed it to get odds. if your event has a Pr of 1/204 than the odds are 1/204 divided by 203/204
i know it's the same number more or less but it matters
so it's one in 203 cuz there are 203 outcomes where a fourway tie does not happen and 1 where it happens
Alexander Ross
Both can be traced back to decisions made in the Soviet era.
>6. f3 and Gareyev goes into the box for ten minutes
Joseph Jackson
Makes sense. The pr was 1/1204 though, not 204, so i guess the odds are 1 in 1203.
Russians are good at chess because they are bad at running a country. The soviet chess program is inseparable from the geopolotical conditions of the soviet union. Alekhine is the only non soviet great russian player, and he played under a foreign flag for most of his career (guess which one) because of the soviets.
Soviet chess was at its most dominant in the Botvinnik era, at a time when the Soviet Union was as strong as the United States as a global power. Among other things, they were ahead in the space race.
Spassky really followed in Alekhine's footsteps, too, though one of them was more of a gentleman than the other.
Jason Hernandez
he's not agadmator, i am
Jackson Collins
Alekhine was a Nazi
Matthew Bell
no your not, i am
Logan Gray
When I first heard Dominguez Perez was playing in the US Championship I tought he was some sort of guest player. Turns out he's not only winning this shit but also 100% American
He won the 2013 Thessaloniki Grand Prix with 8/11, in which he took first place ahead of Caruana and Kamsky.
The remaining field was comprised of Ponomariov, Grischuk, Khasimdzhanov, Nakamura, Svidler, Topalov, Morozevich, Bacrot and Ivanchuk, a field I'd consider much stronger than this US championship.
Do you remember Bent Larsen? He was the strongest Nordic player in history until maybe ten years ago.
Oliver Robinson
ofc was a nice story
Kayden Miller
>be arrogant against Fischer >lose 0-6 against him >muh weather
Austin Rivera
Based If Denver 1971 is all you know about Larsen, you're severely misinformed.
Luke Lewis
I know he was super strong in the 1960s and 1970s. 1.b3 isn't that bad an opening move either. But when you get rekt 0-6 everyone's going to remember it. At least he had it better than Taimanov.
Xavier Jackson
In the USSR vs Rest of the World match in 1970, he played on board 1, while Fischer played on board 2. That puts things into perspective.
Charles Carter
Yeah, I know he insisted on having board 1 and Fischer surprised everyone by ceding it to him.
Eli Martin
Dominguez - Gareyev looking very suspicious for black now.
That is hardly accurate, Anand - Navara was very exciting.
Carter Sanders
>double fianchetto >just hang around
jefferey is such a tricky little shit the entire tournament
Luke Turner
O FABIANO
Elijah Ramirez
Caruana looks dead inside.
Colton Myers
ive taken punches before, ill take punches again
Kayden White
He somehow always does.
Brandon Hernandez
Hey, spiller du seriost og kender du nogen nice steder at spille games i Danmark som ikke er skakklubber? Jeg tager nogen gange ned på Nemoland, på staden og spiller mod skæve randoms. Nogen gange en succes, nogen gange stenet
Ryan Ross
Is Shankland /ourguy/?
David Flores
Yes
Zachary Evans
>Hey, spiller du seriost og jeg spiller online jeg har en ok chesscom rating 1900+ men det synes jeg ikke er nok til at man kan kalde sig serioes spiller >kender du nogen nice steder at spille games i Danmark som ikke er skakklubber? nej, desvaerre. det er bare trist at spille udelukkende online
Logan Collins
It's 01:06 AM in my country and these niggas are so sleepy kek
John Williams
Hikaruwinslol
Chase Lopez
word up har haft nogle gode games med randoms, men jeg er kun 1600
I frankly find chess a problematic sport, there is not enough Black,gay,transgender representitives. Also the root of chess is very sexist, why is the Patriarchy (King) the main piece? Why not the Queen? Chess players are not doing enough at all.
Lincoln Nelson
with chess= not alot of money and power invovled.
when in government = pretty much access to all amounts of money,past and future . Guess what happens? greed.When people get greedy,trust goes down, working together becomes difficult.In chess it's you and your mind only. No mentoring or teaching,you might read a few tactics but in chess it will usually not be a 1:1 situation
so yes,frogposter was right.Ru is good at chess because ru is bad at running a country. Tsar nicholas ii thought he was a great a tsar,and made himself a war general. Got promptly BTFO'd by Japs.
it also annoys me when chess positions in tv and film are totally illogical. all they have to do is google a position and then set it up. it wouldn't even require any consultation. this is a rare case of it being done right as a result of nabokov and kubrick being chess players:
>Up le exchange Looks like Carlsen is gonna take the lead
Jaxson Ross
Mamedyarov with the slip
Tyler Bell
yeah that was really bad by shakh. missed so many crushing lines
navara's Re3, Re7 was pretty awful as well
Jonathan Lopez
Just got back from a very comfy analysis session with a good friend of mine, what did you think about the games today? Is there more to say than Anand is a legend, bouncing back from his loss yesterday?
2.5 / 3 is very good by any standard, but Karjakin and Ding Liren are only half a point behind after only one third of the tournament has been played. Anything could happen.
Connor Cooper
TFW can't memorize 30 moves of drawn theory with which to cruise to a cozy 0.5 with my Chinese buddy. GM's ability to memorize entire games still impresses me.
how about 20 moves of theory to force a draw like Giri
Anthony Russell
It's not that hard to recall games when you realize that every move is connected to the previous one, in one way or the other, unless you're both terrible. For example, we went through a game I played earlier and drew, looking at the rook endgame together, and I just recalled it from memory. No big deal.