Messi has played in only half of the UCL finals that Ronaldo has

>Messi has played in only half of the UCL finals that Ronaldo has

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Messi Stats:
Scores a goal every 99 minutes and 19 seconds
Provides an assist every 238 minutes and 39 seconds
Participates in a goal every 70 minutes and 8 seconds
Appearances: 803
Goals: 656
Assists: 273
Average: 0.83
Trophies Attempted: 70
Trophies Won: 33
% Trophy Win Rate: 47.14%
Seasons as Professional Player: 15


Ronaldo Stats:
Scores a goal every 112 minutes and 45 seconds
Provides an assist every 351 minutes and 7 seconds
Participates in a goal every 85 mins and 21 seconds
Appearances: 953
Goals: 682
Assists: 219
Average: 0.72
Trophies Attempted: 74
Trophies Won: 29
% Trophy Win Rate: 39.19%
Seasons as Professional Player: 17

So, as you can see, not only has Messi had fewer seasons as a player, but he scores more, assists more, contributes to goals on average more and has better goal per game rate, has won more trophies he's entered. Ronaldo, however, is superior in one stat; he has a 0.56 goal ratio for Portugal while Messi is only 0.50. It is literally, factually and statistically true, with empirical evidence, that Messi is a better player than Ronaldo. They're both insanely good players it just so happened Ronaldo is playing in a generation with Messi. Lets drop this fucking 'debate' because there isn't one

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*destroys Huesca and Las Palmas with hat tricks*
*chokes against your Romas so he doesn’t have to play the big boy games where he’d be scoreless and fuck up his average stats while looking like a toddler next to Chadnaldo*
Ah yes, the unstopabble Messoy...

Ronaldo International Goal Teams
x5 Andora
x1 Argentia
x5 Armenia
x2 Azerbaijan
x3 Belgium
x2 Bosnia and Herzegovina
x2 Cameroon
x1 Croatia
x2 Cyprus
x2 Czech Republic
x3 Denmark
x1 Ecuador
x2 Egypt
x4 Estonia
x4 Faroe Islands
x1 Finland
x1 Ghana
x1 Greece
x4 Hungary
x1 Iceland
x1 Iran
x2 Kazakhstan
x5 Latvia
x3 Luxembourg
x1 Morocco
x3 Netherlands
x1 New Zealand
x1 North Korea
x3 Northern Ireland
x1 Panama
x1 Poland
x3 Russia
x2 Saudi Arabia
x1 Slovakia
x3 Spain
x4 Sweden
x1 Wales


>the Annihilator of Andorra
>the Assassin of Armenia
>the Eradicator of Estonia
>the Flayer of Faroe Islands
>the Humiliator of Hungary
>the Lasher of Latvia
>the Slayer of Sweden

Playing this meme doesn't work because I'll just go 'Ignore penalties'. I've literally provided you with concrete facts and stats and you're arguing with empirical evidence. This isn't like comparing Ronaldo and Pele, with different rules and shit, this is comparing two similar aged players who played in the same rule era and thus everything is fair.

>The only big boy games is CL Ro16 and QF games because Ronnie chokes in the semis and finals
Ah yes, the unstoppable Chadnaldo who has to be carried by fucking Bale when he chokes

Just watch them both. Messi is way better.

I watched Ronaldo win 5 champions league titles

You mean Bale, Ramos and the refs gifting them to him

2009: misses the only pen in the shoot out, nearly costs his team the game
2014: saved by Ramos, carried by Di Maria
2016: does nothing
2017: does well tbf
2018: carried by Bale and murderball

And let's not forget his amazing Euro win where he spent 10 minutes actively ruining his teams performance by refusing to be subbed off and the next 70 camera hogging on the bench

I watched ronaldo lose a CL final to Messi

OH NO NO NO NO NO HOW CAN YOU RECOVER AHAHAHAH OH NO NO NO NO NO LOOK AT HIM LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD AHAHAHAHAH

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The numbers don't lie. If Messi is as great as you think he is, why hasn't he won more titles?

but we won more titles OH NO NO NO NO NO

He may have missed in the shootout in 2008 but he also scored his side's only goal in the 120 minutes.

Wikipedia shows 35 to 28 in favour of Messi

>counting super cups
Who has more champions league titles?

>moving the goalposts

It was implied that I was talking about real championships and not fucking super cups. Leave it to a Messi defender to compare a super copa de espana for a fucking champions league title

Why didn't Ronaldo win them if he's so good? They were playing in the same league

Because he was too busy conserving his energy for the important championships

a shame messi literally cuked ronaldo in the CL final innit?

Leagues/CL then?

Messi: 13
Ronaldo: 10

but his energy runs out fast since he lets his mates carry him so often in the semifinals and finals

>leliga
Ronaldo has 3 premier league titles. A brit of all people should now those are worth 3x as much as a Spanish title
Also lets not pretend like Messi had anything to do with the 2004/05 and 05/06 titles

>2009
legendary performance, scores the goal that sealed the victory for barcelona, with a header nonetheless
>2011
another legendary performance, magnificent solo goal that gave barcelona the lead and the trophy
>2015
Didn't score this time, but led his team to victory. Set up the 2nd(winning) goal.

I watched Ronaldo get to the CL final for 3 years in a row, all 3 of those years it was illegitimate. Bayern got refballed out of the tournament twice, Juve once. That's probably the reason why noone takes those titles serious. Everybody knows the competition was a farce.

If leliga is so easy, why couldnt the epl veteran ronnie win more ligas

Because he was saving his energy for the champions league

>saving his energy for when his team were already 2/3 goals up in the champions league

Who was scoring the goals?

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The ref. He should have went out in the quarters but got 3 illegitimate goals in a single quarter final tie.

Yeah, Barcelona never got help from the refs

Go prep the bull, sven

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I don't recall Barcelona getting refballed through the competition 3 years in a row. The most memorable refball I can even recall was the match against Chelsea. Meanwhile the 16-18 UCL seasons were a complete farce and littered with obnoxious and almost insultingly offensive decisions. Red cards out of nowhere, various off side goals, non called handballs in the box that should have been visible to 3 (THREE) referees and so on.

Not at Refball Madrid's level the last 3 years.

>Ronaldo alone has played in more UCL finals than any Argentine team ever has.

The state of that country.

How many has he lose?

Shit, I concede now... the Euro finals topscorer doesn’t hold a candle to Messoy... I’ve seen the manlet score a hat trick vs THE MIGHTY 5 STAR BRAZILIAN NT! Oh it was a meaningless friendly? Nevermind then

>Donaldo
>Cobserving his energy before Zidane forced him to
All he wanted was statpad against Huesca when 5-0 up until the very end of the match

>argentinian teams have never played in a CL final
wtf I hate messi now

>Vidal gets a refballed pen and misses it, still seethes about the ref afterwards
>2nd leg illegal Bayern goal takes match to extra time but retards still complain against Real
I said: go prep the bull, Sven

This Real team almost stopped me from watching football. Can't believe a team this bad was allowed to win 3 CLs in a row purely on refball.

cringe

>Admitting Ronaldo isn't good enough to win trebles
Oh no no no no ni

He's an overrated fraud, Ronaldo is better.

No one cares about trebles. The pursuit of the treble has caused the Barcelona team to be too fatigued to do shit in Europe since 2015. If they had just ignored the chiputa del rey then they may have actually won the CL again

The fuck are you talking about, you realize you have to win the CL as well as both the league and the cup to win a treble?

Winning a single treble is infinitely more impressive than winning three CL's in a row, that relies heavily on luck to win, because you're so shit that you're out of league and cup contention by January, let alone winning two trebles.

Let me correct you, first it’s 2008 not 2009
>2008
Scores the first goal of the game, if he hadn’t scored Chelsea would have won 1-0 and Man United wouldn’t even go to penalties
>2014
Keeps giving Bale lots of chances to score and he misses all of them
>2016
Scores the decive penalty under tremendous pressure
>2018
Had good chances to score , was unlucky, and there were times where he could have scored but Bale was greedy

He’s also never lost one and played a key role in all 3 wins

Unlike Penaldo who was invisible in 3.5 out of the 5 finals

He's fucking your shit up Portugal. And all you do is come back with sad ass anecdotal shit.

tfw ronaldo won the ballon d'or in 2013 because he qualified portugal to get humiliated by the USA in the world cup

>Who has more champions league titles?
What about Laliga and El Classico my friend :^)

>inb4 farmers league
>inb4 muh xavi iniesta

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Stop your killing yourself

>Winning a single treble is infinitely more impressive than winning three CL's in a row

how many teams won 3 CL in a row in current format?

how many players won 3 CL in a row as top scorer?

>copa america is irrelevant
>champions league is irrelevant
>farmers league and tap-ins against 10men Real are more important than international trophies

such is life as a messoy fan

>not caring about literally proving you are the best by wining everything

Mbappe will end up better than both of them

>played in half as many finals
>half the goals
>including a 120 minute pen for Ronaldo

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