If the UEFA Champions League™ final ends up being Juventus vs Barça...

If the UEFA Champions League™ final ends up being Juventus vs Barça,we can all recognize who ever comes out on top is the GOAT and end the discussion once and for all right?

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Isn't Messi leading 1:0 in Finals though?

Messi already did that in 2009

No xavi or iniesta so its messis team this year

I don't remember Xavi or Iniesta scoring in any Messi final, I do remember Eder tho

If Messi makes it 2-0, does that make him the GOAT?

Moving the goalpost.. Naw senpai that's not how it works. Good try though lol.

end of discussion lmao
>poonaldofags
BTFO

Messi got beat in 2011.

So the massive h2h lead in el classicos that were basically title deciders each time doesn't count anymore eh?

"Oh noes but the NEXT h2h match up of importance will DEFINITELY show who's the best..... until the next one at least... "

>messi
>seeing any CL action past the QF

I think it's some Zoomer shit
There was always that Messi/Ronaldo debate but recently it's just kicked into next gear and it's all people talk about. Teams don't matter, performances don't matter, it's stats and comparing one to another in every facet. It's pretty bizarre seeing like 5 Ronaldo/Messi threads on the catalog at all times

If Messi wins, no
If Ronaldo wins, yes
6-3 UCL’s puts the debate to rest. + the Euro win.
Also UCL wins in 3 different clubs. And 4 in a row.

The 4-peat will probably never be accomplished again if he manages it

i doubt he will, BUT if he does manage it, that preyy much cements himself as the GOAT

>Already making excuses
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I'm glad you guys recognize Pelé to be the undisputed goat. I mean look at all those babies trophies while our nigga got 3 - THREE - WC lmao

Pele? More like PeLAME

LMAO GOTEM Good one by me

Nothing changes. Their careers are already decided, since no matter what trophies are won they can't change as players.

There is no discussion
Anyone who watches football knows that Messi is by far the better player.
muh "who has the most trophies" talk is bait for zoomers and americans.

How retarded must one be to not know what an excuse is? Did I say Ronaldo is injured or Can/Khedira/Matuidi are shit?

If Ronaldo wins the UCL this year, it's over as far as I'm concerned.

... in the chupito del rey final... while messi singlehandedly fucked real madird in the CL semifinal

I see several flaws and I'll point out each one of them
>farca won't get anywhere near the final
>even if they did they wouldn't stand a chance against thr strong mind of TSUUU, who will 100% be in the final
>even if messoy won it all againt juve (impossible), it wouldn't prove anything because based CHADnaldo already single handely carried a shitty roster with shitty manager to 3 CLs in a row whole messoy cried about losing 4-0 to fucking Roma

>For me it´s the fucking TREBLE.

Messi has won two and the third is coming, portubitch.

*honk honk*'s in ur path

penaldofags are penaldofags because they're the most retarded people in the world

They aren't winning a single title dumbass

Messi Stats:
Scores a goal every 99 minutes and 19 seconds
Provides an assist every 238 minutes and 39 seconds
Participates in a goal every 70 minutes and 8 seconds
Appearances: 803
Goals: 656
Assists: 273
Average: 0.83
Trophies Attempted: 70
Trophies Won: 33
% Trophy Win Rate: 47.14%
Seasons as Professional Player: 15


Ronaldo Stats:
Scores a goal every 112 minutes and 45 seconds
Provides an assist every 351 minutes and 7 seconds
Participates in a goal every 85 mins and 21 seconds
Appearances: 953
Goals: 682
Assists: 219
Average: 0.72
Trophies Attempted: 74
Trophies Won: 29
% Trophy Win Rate: 39.19%
Seasons as Professional Player: 17

So, as you can see, not only has Messi had fewer seasons as a player, but he scores more, assists more, contributes to goals on average more and has better goal per game rate, has won more trophies he's entered. Ronaldo, however, is superior in one stat; he has a 0.56 goal ratio for Portugal while Messi is only 0.50. It is literally, factually and statistically true, with empirical evidence, that Messi is a better player than Ronaldo. They're both insanely good players it just so happened Ronaldo is playing in a generation with Messi. Lets drop this fucking 'debate' because there isn't one.

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>implying I mentioned trebles anywhere in my post
Were you hit in the head?

Based chinese cartoon poster. It's just the media hype around CL that makes it seem as if it's somehow a way better trophy than the others. It's simply a prestige win and usually involves a lot of luck and refball. Ronaldo can show up for a game, Messi for a season.

They're both insanely good players, but at the moment, Messi is better. He might break his leg next game and retire. He might retire from International football again (convinced he came back purely because people wanted more Messi vs Ronaldo) or something will happen to Ronaldo. But right now, as of 25th of March, Messi is the better player. It might change. I took time working that shit and writing it out and people still argue it. Why are we even arguing it when both are still playing and we don't know the future? Because you could make a bet on Ronaldo and Messi reaching 700 goals each before they retire, you could make a lot of money... but since they might die, we don't know.

>Messi scores more, assists more, contributes to goals on average more and has better goal per game rate

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You didn't disprove him lol

>Ronaldo can show up for a game, Messi for a season.
if Messi showed up in those two finals against Chile instead of statpadding against Eibar he would have been the undisputed goat

right now he's the undisputed choker pecho frio