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Cr7 is much older than messi
>1 more app and has 15 more goals and 8 more assists
>Messi has fewer CL apps but twice as many goals and an extra assist
B-b-but G-g-goatnaldo.... M-m-messoy... h-h-hah i said s-s-oy... hahha... g-g-gottem!!!!
>Cr7 is much older than messi
You have to be legitimately braindead to think that Ronaldo is a better football player than Messi.
Debate is finally done. Although not fan of either
Pretty much 2 and a half years, makes a big difference at this stage
Both are frauds with zero Wc knockout goals
>b-but muh goals against mighty Nigeria
Messi Stats:
Scores a goal every 99 minutes and 19 seconds
Provides an assist every 238 minutes and 39 seconds
Participates in a goal every 70 minutes and 8 seconds
Appearances: 803
Goals: 656
Assists: 273
Average: 0.83
Trophies Attempted: 70
Trophies Won: 33
% Trophy Win Rate: 47.14%
Seasons as Professional Player: 15
Ronaldo Stats:
Scores a goal every 112 minutes and 45 seconds
Provides an assist every 351 minutes and 7 seconds
Participates in a goal every 85 mins and 21 seconds
Appearances: 953
Goals: 682
Assists: 219
Average: 0.72
Trophies Attempted: 74
Trophies Won: 29
% Trophy Win Rate: 39.19%
Seasons as Professional Player: 17
So, as you can see, not only has Messi had fewer seasons as a player, but he scores more, assists more, contributes to goals on average more and has better goal per game rate, has won more trophies he's entered. Ronaldo, however, is superior in one stat; he has a 0.56 goal ratio for Portugal while Messi is only 0.50. It is literally, factually and statistically true, with empirical evidence, that Messi is a better player than Ronaldo. They're both insanely good players it just so happened Ronaldo is playing in a generation with Messi. Lets drop this fucking 'debate' because there isn't one.
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>6 fewer goals and 40 more assists for all time club stats in 123 less caps.
Messi is GOAT
Now get rid of the pre-VAR offside goals for Penaldo like Bayern 2017
Now get rid of Barcelona's rigged matches in previous UCL's
Don't worry man, I'm just waiting for your excuses when Ronaldo wins his 6th UCL with Juve
>Ronaldo, however, is superior in one stat; he has a 0.56 goal ratio for Portugal while Messi is only 0.50
Penaldo also gets to statpad against Andorra and Sweden while Messi has to play in do-or-die games in Conmebol.
>The harasser of Haiti
>The bane of Benis
>comparing the GOAT to a literal portuguese island monkey inzaghi
Why is this allowed
Imagine he surpassed Pele with this
That matters a lot at that age. The only people who did not realize Ronaldo would decline before Messi are idiots. Messi will experience a similar decline, he already has declined if you compare him now to his 09-12 self. His acceleration over 10 yards has dropped significantly.
How good would CRonaldo be if he had recieved the same steroid treatment as Messi?
Are you really saying that a portuguese guy is a monkey but an argenchino isn't? But then again
>tf
>tp
How good would anglo posts be if they had an iq above 79?
>implying he doesn't roid
Also, ask his heart surgeon how good Penaldo would be without his improved heart.
improved heart with intense training.
Not him but doesn't Messi take drugs? How is that fair kek
Messi comes from land fought over by lords of the Papal states around the Roman empire, one of the bastions of civilization. Ronaldo is a fucking island monkey next to Africa
He received treatment for a growth deficiancy syndrome as a pre teen.
See, drugs to perform better.
It's incredible that your brain capacity allows you to formulate coherent sentences. It's all retarded drabble but sentences at least. You must be the smartest anglo alive.
>German 'opinions
Show some respect you filthy Kraut swine.
Thanks man. Good to know I'm not the only one who can see that Messi is a fraud in this retarded board
kek messi BTFO madrid so much they rigged the draw both team never meet again in CL
Calm down, paki
>'opinions
Denying reality again, eh? Football is coming home next year la
>respecting a bunch of inbred island monkeys that don't educate themselves on the most important voting they'll ever fave in their lives and cry like little children after they realize they shot themselves in the foot
oh boy, I'm laughing
What 'excuses'? I've literally given you fucking stats. Messi has won more trophies in his career than Ronaldo. I never said Ronaldo was bad but Messi is a better player. He scores more and assists more, he contributes more to the game, has a better trophy win % and so on. I dunno what fucking more is needed. So unless you're literally never gonna accept your gaylord not being the best.
>le choke 3 finals in a row man
>donaldo
i hope you customers fuck off from this board when these frauds retire
>englisharia
based xDD
>all these JF's falling for a notorious proxy user
Sometimes I wonder if Germans and Yanks are just genetically failed as '''humans'''. They think themselves superior when they're being tricked by a Romanian. That's quite something. Not to mention their immediate response is to go to /pol/. A shame, but eh, autism is a hell of a drug. Year after World Cups is always full of reddit tourists who think they know how the board works. Cest la vie.
>share birthday with Messi
Fuck, it could've been me. Nigga got my portion of talent.
Messi is better, but Ronaldo played his first four or five seasons as a winger (the proper kind, not the le cut inside and score kind), so there's that.
>la liga
>epl
>la liga
>seria a
The literal definition on an insecure system baby.
*babby
>He scores more and assists more, he contributes more to the game
sure he's the goat against Eibar and Arsenal
wtf the kiwi told me he was declining
reminder that messi never lost a CL final
>messi BTFO madrid
this will remain his only legacy: 10 penalties and 10 tap-ins against Real Madrid
pnaldofags are like muslims shilling for islam
And against Real Madrid, Sevilla, Bayern, Atletico, Ferguson's United, Man City, Valencia, etc.
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instead he lost like 10 quarterfinals lmao
never to ronaldo tho, ronaldo lost 1 final and two semi finals to messi in the CL
Because most hate Ronaldo duh. Also this video is completely unrelated to what I posted and then you complain
>Muh brittish retardation
Kill yourself
>best team in the prem
>second best team in la liga
>best team in serie a
And somehow Messi is insecure
>because most hate Ronaldo
You certainly have a source for this, don't you?
And what you posted had nothing to do with him putting in goat performances to destroy those teams single handedly, which he did without needing offside goals to count or getting his ass saved by pique or suarez
You always talk about his offside goals but then you forget that the team that is mostly remembered for refball is Barcelona. If you are gonna talk about something make sure you do enough research
And about Ronaldo being most hated, it's fucking obvious that he is
>Messi
performs against literal farmers in irrelevant matches nobody will remember, disappears when playing for argentina
>Ronaldo
unlocks his team and wins at the world stage of the UCL, even wins trophies with his NT
Let's face it, in 30 years nu-zoomers won't even mention Messi in GOAT talks, nobody will even know what a Levante, Eibar, etc are.
it is remembered only because the loudmouthed vocal english got "refballed", refball madrid put refballing to another level
ronaldo only has stats for himself, messi got the talent people will always talk about.
See you're literally arguing with facts. No matter what you argue, Messi is better. More goals per game? Messi. More assists? Messi. More contributions to overall goals scored by his team? Messi. Most trophies won? Messi. If we use the Retardion's criteria of non-friendly games, then Messi has a better goal per game ratio than Ronaldo. If you then go 'b-b-but the teams he plays' Messi has scored 12 goals versus previous World Cup winners compared to Ronaldo's 4. But hey, I'm sure people will remember Ronaldo scoring four goals against a nine man Andorra. Those heights, those giant slaying feats. While Messi has a hattrick against Brazil. Ronaldo is a very good player, Messi is just better by any metric you use bar 'I think Ronaldo is hot therefore he is better'.
>Messi
Plays in a league that encourages attacking football, while having a stacked midfield
>Ronaldo
Plays in a league where defending is super important, has a bosnian for his midfielder
Man, I sure wonder why Ronaldo shat on the dwarf when he played in the same Leageu as him?
Oh, and I wonder how the dwarf would do in Serie A. He'd probably get his legs broken in the first two matches.
>muh talent
Talent of getting carried by prime Xavi/Iniesta/Busquets/Rakitic. Wonder why the dwarf can't do shit for Argentina, when Ronaldo could legitimately carry a garbage dog Portugal team to a Euro final. Hmmm
At what age will Messi retire? even if he loses speed he can still become an incredible midfielder and can play till he is 40
special third place group rule, easy draws and France choking is what carried portugal to a NT title. ronaldo is too dependent on his teamates to score. just cross it la, messi is and always will be an immensively superior footballer.
How so? Because with refball or not on the goals they were by far the better team besides juve.
>muh third place rule
They played by the rules, how does that take the credit for their achievement? Not to mention on how they were unironically the only undefeated team in the tournament. Ronaldo is better overall.
If Messi was in the same situation he would stay on the bench with his usual autistic face and then cry when losing.
you don't deserve me valuable time. you absolute degenerate.
>no arguments
Tbh Ronaldo had a serb as his midfielder in Real
Messi entire career was Barcelona. He was the main player in a world top 3 team for at least 12 years, he had Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Xavi, Neymar and others top players serving him all along.
Cristiano had to build up his career from the Portuguese football and played in 5 different clubs, this make a big difference.. Imagine if he had played for Real Madrid for 17 years? his numbers would be better.
Messi has more skills, Cristiano is the more decisive.
Cristiano_Ronaldo
Years Team Apps (Gls)
2002–2003 Sporting CP B 2 (0)
2002–2003 Sporting CP 25 (3)
2003–2009 Manchester United 196 (84)
2009–2018 Real Madrid 292 (311)
2018– Juventus 26 (19)
Lionel_Messi
Years Team Apps (Gls)
2003–2004 Barcelona C 10 (5)
2004–2005 Barcelona B 22 (6)
2004– Barcelona 444 (412)
Messi is the better player now and also was the better player as young teenager.
The guy was the best player at 20/21 years old already.
Also Ronaldo played with an insane united team and Real Madrid arguably was more stacked than Barcelona in the last years.
The meme of >he was in 4 leagues is laughable when he switched to the Number1 team by a wide margin in Juventus/Manu.He also got cucked by in Madrid for a years and the CL Titles saved his legacy in Spain.
The same could be said about messi almost 2 decades in barcelona but only 4 UCL. Or should I say 3?