How many seasons will it take for him to surpass Tom Brady?

>Being GOAT in one sport doesn't mean you can just walk into another, look at Usain Bolt, a National League standard pacebabby at best.

being a field goal kicker is ten times easier than being a striker

I still don't understand what you're trying to say. NFL teams are larger than premier league teams and we have significantly more teams in the league than there are in the EPL at any given time. The talent pool is technically larger and draws from many more players than soccer does in England.

>kicking a football is a lot different than kicking a football
deep

The talent pool for the premier league is pretty much every one in the world, literally billions play our sport. The pool for the NFL is at most a few dozen million because it is played exclusively in one country. Further, the systems of youth harvesting are much, much worse.

I think sometimes people forget that there are literally thousands of active clubs playing every week in England and that there is more than just the Premier League here.

> The pool for the NFL is at most a few dozen million because it is played exclusively in one country.

it's more like a few hundred thousand.

A washed up 40 year old currently dominates NFL so I think he’ll be ok.

Probably even less than that because the sport itself sorts out builds not fit for american football
I would say there's a maybe a few tens of thousand players with the required build playing US football at most

>Further, the systems of youth harvesting are much, much worse.

No they really aren't. They are different systems. Just because (You) people use a different one, doesn't make other methods invalid. Our system is founded on college because that's where football started. The NCAA was not founded for the sole purpose of being a farm league. The overwhelming majority of college never go pro so that free education is crucial to their development as a functioning member of society.

>Spurs player says he'll like to play NFL after the NFL pitch in their new stadium is ready to go and has a 10 year contract to host NFL games
Wow. What a shock.

But the Premier League will always take the best players in the country, shit, even the best players in the world, bar some or most of those good enough for Real/Barca.

Thank you for the local expertise, based yank

So in essence, the standard in the NFL is like English fourth tier standard?

Except he isn't washed up and has been playing the game for almost all of those 41 years he has been alive. Kane has literally never played football and probably doesn't understand strategy anymore than your average female fan.

Basically if you've got a good body there's no way you won't be a pro in the NFL
Skills, talent or whatever is secondary

Well, he already looks like he had a severe concussion.

>So in essence, the standard in the NFL is like English fourth tier standard?

You are literally comparing apples to oranges YOU CANNOT COMPARE YOUR LEAGUES TO OUR LEAGUES. NFL players are the best of the best in football and would dominate any EPL athletes in the Olympics. A larger sample doesn't mean that you will get a better quality athletes. If that were the case China and India wouldn't be shit at sports.

>and would dominate any EPL athletes in the Olympics

what does that mean? most Olympic events require stamina.

>Basically if you've got a good body there's no way you won't be a pro in the NFL

You're a fucking retard dude. I'm done with this argument. You people know nothing about American football and act like experts when at most you've watched one super bowl. Every single year there is an athletic freak who washes out of the league because he lacks skill or football IQ. The upcoming draft has an athletic marvel type who is likely going to bust. Stop speaking from ignorance you fucking cunts.

Brainlet detected, he’s saying this because he genuinely believes he can dominate the NFL
Seething yank detected, guarantee when Harry retires from football take the Throne from Brady and lead the patriots to 6 more super bowls

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Yes you can, please calm down. They are not athletes, they play a sport, not >The Olympics. India and China are shit at sports because of low per capita GDP. Simple logic with the sample size and popularity of the sport will show that the players for the top European clubs are all relatively superior to the top NFL players.

I don't believe half a second NFL players would beat any EPL player (including the 3rd goalies) for anything longer than 800m and even this one I have doubts
But even then that's what I meant, this is pure physicality. Basically track and field for people not actually gifted enough to do genuine track and field

Running 800m in a few minutes isn't the same as jogging for 90.

>people think NFL is hard when you literally stand still more time than they actually move
American Football needs to become relevant here so we can do International games. England would get twatted (though I'd recommend a British team rather than just England) but it'd be fun.

China isn't shit at sports. They're probably the best table tennis players in the world (yet another sport UK invented that we're bad at) and India is good at cricket and horse polo (same shit).

Well he won't know unless he doesn't try; but my point is that Spurs are shilling their NFL stuff.

really hate when people ignore my top tier banter

fuck this place full of shitcunt redditors that ignore great posts because they didn't think of witty banter to post

Please remain calm sir.

Thankfully most sports require technical skills, not just brute strength.

I rarely agree with French people but what’s he’s saying is 100% true, and that’s why American sports suck so much, it’s only 5-10% talent 90%+ genetic lottery, NFL players only need to be big and bulky and they can learn the rest in no time, NBA players need to be tall with long limbs and they can dominate the sport, the taller they are the better they will be. Meanwhile in real sports, such as football any body type can be best as it’s purely down to skill and talent

>I'm so witty and charming, notice me senpai!

Suck a dick, Bruce

I'm telling you, in an 800m contest the EPL would largely dominate the NFL
Even if you only counted the fast ones

>kicking a football is a lot different than kicking a football.

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t. useless and worthless low IQ redditor

I can't wait to see him get lit up by a linebacker a la Reggie Bush vs. Sheldon Brown

he'd probably get scared at footsteps

This is a shit opinion
Guys like brock lesnar and the rock couldn’t cut it in the nfl
Jordan mailata, one of Australia ‘s best athletes, cant make the field for the iggles
There was some other aussie phenom that was an utter shit nfl player, theres a funny copypasta on Yea Forums about him, think his name was haynes
Euros try for the nfl all the time, all they can do is be a kicker, not an actual player

Most NFL plays are 4 seconds. I’d put money on football players beating NFL players at 800 metres. Only thing NFL players might win at is 100 and 200 metres, and even then the fastest footballers are just as fast.

But they are not talent scouted and formally trained as early and rigorously as association footballers

Not true
You have no clue how micromanaged and judged all these kids are

>you need testicles to understand sport

Brock Lesnar and The Rock aren't the kind of athletes to compete in sports
So those dudes are absolutely shit and brainlets but still in the NFL right ?
I would bet dudes from Rugby would field in the NFL in no time

Nice!

Because they don't need to be. At higher levels football is a much more cerebral game than soccer. At the high school/college levels player start to spend a fuckton more time in classrooms learning the game. It's like how people shoot guns as kids, but they typically can't recieve military training until 18 unless they did JROTC in high school. You don't understand what you are talking about so please stop talking

>Jordan mailata, one of Australia ‘s best athletes
Hahaha no

No
Hayne was a top level rugby guy and washed out immediately
Mailata hasnt made a single start for the eagles, hes a long term development project that will probably amount to nothing

>Brock Lesnar and The Rock aren't the kind of athletes to compete in sports

Except they literally are and did. And no fucking rugby player has ever been good in the NFL. Not a single one.

>reading comprehension

Have you ever talked the average female sports fan about sports? Most of them know jackshit. The only time you can discuss sports with women is if they played it.

It's much harder to score points in association football because it is much more tactically evolved

American football is stagnant due to the small talent pool and lack of external competition. It's the equivalent to snooker over here

>It's much harder to score points in association football because it is much more tactically evolved

No, it's harder to score points because there is literally only one way to do it. American football has numerous different ways and types of points to score.

>kick ball
>throw ball
That's literally all there is.

There is a much greater variety of goals cored in football than touchdowns in NFL. It takes spontaneous creativity to unlock a defence in proper football. In NFL you just throw the ball to the largest black guy in your line of sight

Gridiron is basically Football where every team uses pure hoofball tactics and goal lurching is allowed.

Sometimes i wonder if trollposts ar actually written by retarded people, or if they’re just good at faking it
Either way, bravo

adequately rated post

COME TO TENNESSEE

They made throw-ins their national sport. Rory Delap would be a god in the NFL

You're both retards. There are touchdowns, field goals, safeties, XP kicks, 2pt conversions, and even the obsolete but still legal dropkick.

In soccer you can:
>Kick the ball in
>head the ball in

In football you can:
>Throw ball in the endzone to a reciever
>run the ball in somehow
>tackle a player in his own endzone
>kick the ball through the goalposts
>punt through the goalposts

We have scores worth 1, 2, 3, and six (6) points meanwhile every goal in soccer is worth 1 point. Again you people are completely fucking ignorant of how the sport works and should shut up.

>We have scores worth 1, 2, 3, and six (6) points

Literally artificial difficulty. If you had the attention spans to make there only one way of scoring in NFL and basketball then the gameplans would have to become more creative tactically, but you just bypassed that process entirely

And right now the best qb/wr combo is a mutt chucking to a pacey nigger. How exhilarating.

What is it with Harry Kane and New England?

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Literally this. Field goals are consolation prizes for offences failing to score. Just another example of yanks having zero attention span and a creepy need to hand out participation medals

I'm done here. You bongs are deluded. I've played both organized soccer and american football and the beauty of soccer is in its simplicity. It evolves at higher levels for sure, but the discrepancy in complexity between high school level and pro play in soccer is nowhere near as vast as the gulf between high school and pro play in football.

>football playing countries have children smart enough to have pro-level tactics and play from a young age
>yank children need to play a dumbed down version of gridiron because they're too muttified
imagining being proud of this

Goal inside the box (including penalties) = 1 goal
Goal from outside of the box = 3 goals
Goal from a header = 2 goals
Goal from an overhead kick = 5 goals

Football is now as 'complex and varied' as Gridiron and gets the big scores that Americans seem to need.

Don't forget that if one team isn't scoring they need to be given the odd free kick as a congratulations for getting a bit close to scoring but failing

>(((great))) britain

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>having your world view shattered by brits so hard you need to start shilling degeneracy instead
I accept your defeat

He just wants to be the speedy white slot receiver for the Patriots, not hard to see how he could think that was possible

>using echoes when we're eliminating access to Jewish filth
You are so cucked pedro

He’d obviously be a kicker

the most important tactic in concussion ball is figuring out how to have your brainiac qb not get destroyed by 11 insentient juice monsters

Replace corners with penalties?

Kane has the vision for it. He passes better with his feet than most NFL quarterbacks do with their hands

Now you're thinking like an American though I'd advise you quickly stop.

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AND EVERY TIME THE BALL IS KICKED OUT OF PLAY, STOP THE CLOCK AND TAKE A FIVE MINUTE AD BREAK

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based and blackpilled

having different ways of scoring with different point values literally expands the game tactically because you can approach the situation in multiple ways, forcing the other team to respond and anticipate what you're going to do on multiple levels. maybe there is less creative decision making for each individual on the field but masterminding a game plan and the chess match between coaches is fascinating at the top level. obviously, a casual viewer or a willfully ignorant person can reduce it large men standing around until they crash into each other for a few seconds at a time. but these are the same people who will seethe when they watch a premier league match and see nothing but a child's game of mindless kicking and running. maybe just admit that there's more to it that you don't know about and gain a deeper understanding for the game. or don't and just enjoy what you already enjoy without having to overcompensate.

Kane looks as if they animated the irl actor from L.A Noir poorly instead of pretty well

>Jordan mailata, one of Australia ‘s best athletes, cant make the field for the iggles
Lad, the guy was playing u-21 rugby league.

>I would bet dudes from Rugby would field in the NFL in no time
Then why isn't every rugby player in the world lining up to collect 10x the salaries they earn now?

>Kane
>run fast

NFL is easy
Kane would be a top 10 QB after one season

In American football, the coach does the majority of the work and the players are just mindless pawns with physical ability. Assuming that Kane is still physically fit when he retires from association football, he could easily fit in to a coach's system.

Jarryd the hayne trayne Hayne

So let me get this straight, a faggot wants to play a faggot sport and you guys are saying he can just switch and it will be easy. One is full contact collision sport and the other is football. He has no chance. But I've lost respect for him wanting to play a retard sport anyway

as a fan of both sports, i agree in some abstract sense

but how the fuck does that make harry kane a viable NFL player? utterly different sport

american football players train their whole lives for the sport...you can't just walk in not knowing how to play it, or people would. there's money to be made.

again as a fan of both sports, the physical qualities required are pretty different. also, it's a matter of skill, not just physical ability. skills take many years to develop.

even players from much more similar sports, likr rugby, fail when they try to transition, generally. (as an NFL player would fail if transitioning to rugby.) considering how many millions more is to be made playing in the NFL vs. playing rugby, you'd imagine you'd see more switching if it were so easy.

found the guy who dives in pick-up games.

you don't know much about american football tactics, do you

Pretty sure he just wants to be a kicker, which he could easily do

What position does he want to play. He really isn't agile enough for anything besides qb or kicker.

kicking is quite a different art from just kicking a ball far - as is punting, etc.

takes years of specific training

now, do i think harry could do it? maybe. but he'd have to be dedicated and it would take time.

Kane's striking is fricking artwork. I would bet a lot of money that he could do it

with years of practice, i do think so. but there's a pretty big difference between kicking the two different types of ball. there's a reason that the successful kickers with a soccer background are all guys who spent years practicing kicking a gridiron football as well, not guys who just showed up one day after a soccer career.

but i like harry and wish him the best with this. would be cool.

this is hilarious because we had a thread doing the exact opposite where an NFL guy successfully got on a european football team and everyone was saying the exact same thing and acting the exact same way but with the flags switched around. This is retarded lol

Talking about IQ in a sport designed to take it away. Do you feel no shame supporting a sport where 90% of players will experience brain damage of some sort before 50?

youtube.com/watch?v=5-sM2HqQ_2A
kek

>an NFL guy successfully got on a european football team
who?

>This is retarded lol

Yea Forums in a nutshell

>kicking a football is a lot different than kicking a football.

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I disagree with your logic, and, without being too vituperative, assume you haven't watched American football. According to your argument, restricting methods of scoring engenders tactical creativity. We can imagine a "creative space", produced by these limitations, that expands with increased restriction on ways to score, and shrinks when there are more ways to score. Creativity is thus proportional to restriction. Yet the logical conclusion of this argument would be restrict scoring to the most limited of methods. In soccer, for example, we could take out headers and PKs as methods of scoring. Would this increase creativity? I would argue no, as it make previously existing tactics such as high crosses into the box obsolete, and fail to create any new tactics, as tactics for scoring the ball with the feet already exist. Sure, these tactics may be improved upon or added to, but I doubt that they would deviate significantly from already-existing blueprints. Thus restriction actually shrinks the creative space. Your argument is flawed, and restricting NFL games to one way of scoring would diminish tactical creativity.

is he trying to pull off a Jordan?

the physical standards of the NFL surpass that of the military.

That is saying very little

I wouldn't say that. Kicker and Punter are the two positions that most non american athletes try out for in the NFL, and basically all of them fail miserably and are cut within a year. You need to be consistent as an NFL kicker, end of conversation. If you aren't sinking 90% of your shots then you're gonna get cut pretty quickly, or traded if you have any value left.

field goals are absolutely not consolation prizes. shit coaches will try and push for touchdowns while champions like belichick just take the points.

ok, ill put it this way. NFL players are bigger than you, stronger than you, AND faster than you, and im certain that many of them are also smarter.

You can learn like 90 percent of positions in the NFL with a couple months if you're athletic enough

you can learn 100% of sports in a couple months if you're athletic enough

Hes right though. Field goals mean you failed to gain a first down which is the most basic goal of the offense. It's the game saying "well you tried very hard so we're going to let you attempt some points anyway even though you couldn't move a ball 10 yards on 3 attempts"

This. There are loads of TEs who haven't played football since high school and get picked up as failed basketball prospects.

Not to a professional level

> even though you couldn't move a ball 10 yards on 3 attempts
i'd wager that less than 1% of all field goals happen right after a 3-and-out. but you're talking out of your ass, so it's fine.

Where did I say it was a 3 and out? I'm referring to a 4th down retard. Do you know how gridiron works? Go read the rules quickly.

but this mentality takes away from the fact that you may have just come up against an amazing defense. How do you beat an amazing defense? you whittle them down as much as you can

>you poor thing you did so well against that incredible defense. In recognition of your valiant failure to be better than the opposition you may attempt to get 3 points
This is what participation medal culture does. You legitimately think you deserve to be rewarded for failing against someone who is better than you because "they were too good :((("

Kane should come play for the Lions. His time on the English national team has already prepared him for soul crushing disappointment so he’d be a perfect fit

>rewarded
you still have to make the shot, and kickers who don't make that shot are ridiculed and cut from their teams. Also if you think that defense isn't a huge factor in offense then you clearly don't play or watch football. Great defenses are what consistently win games.

Southgate's set piece obsession is starting to do a number on english player's brain

>if you think defences aren't a huge factor
Don't know where you're pulling that from lad. Totally irrelevant to the discussion.

What are you not getting? Field goals are clearly consolation prizes. The offense failed (this isn't debatable) to gain a fresh set of downs in 3 attempts which is their most basic job, so they get to bypass that and have some points anyway. It's like if you got a free kick instead of a corner after every save.

To be fair, literally anyone could be a kicker

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its not a consolation prize but whatever, you obviously haven't played the sport where as I've played soccer and football and rugby. each sport offers unique challenges and none of them are truly bad sports (though watching fully grown men pretend to be hurt is pretty cringe)

Ill try and break this down and make it simpler for you. It's my fault for assuming you're capable of too much.

Do you agree that the vast majority of field goals happen on a 4th down?

do you agree that kickers who choke get cut from their teams by the end of the year? and that grown men pretending to cry is just a little bit gay?

Its interesting that you're avoiding that question so aggressively. Did you suddenly realise how silly you're being?

And the answer to both of your unrelated questions is yes btw. Want to give mine an attempt?

This thread clearly shows that brits still are and will ever be the best anglos.

if my first point is true, then field goals aren't consolation prizes since the kicker still has to earn them.

I dont think its crazy to think he could come be a kicker/punter if he taught himself the nuances of kicking a football.

If he still had some speed, he could be a potential 4th down trick play threat...

But all this is extremely unlikely.. i mean how long does he think he can wait?

So do field goals usually happen on 4th down?

7-1

I would say yes they almost always happen on 4th down, like 99% of them.

And a 4th down occurs when an offense has failed, for whatever reason, to move the ball 10 yards from the original line of scrimmage in 3 attempts, yes?

yes, and where the offense has failed, the kicker must succeed.

Lol he doesn’t have the speed now to do anything else but kick in the NFL

>the punisher of Panama wants to play the least demanding position
wew

And why do teams take field goals instead of going for it?

>The offense failed (this isn't debatable)
It is debatable. If they moved the ball far enough down the field to be in field goal range than they earned the opportunity to score 3 points.
>to gain a fresh set of downs in 3 attempts which is their most basic job
Their most basic job is to put points on the board
>It's like if you got a free kick instead of a corner after every save.
It's like moving the ball into your opponents half of the pitch and then taking a shot from outside of the box.

as a spurs supporter, I don't want him to do this.. is this levy pushing him to make more money off of us americans? isn't the new stadium enough?

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It’s just a media thing to try and get some of the NFL customers.

because they're smart and want to win. only idiots don't take the points.

That’s not true. I would if I could. Although, me and my friend came up with the idea of adopting black inner city kids and making them train to punt and place kick every day of their lives and then live off the money they make in the nfl as a punter/place kicker.

>they earned something by failing
Theres the participation medal champ

Is that because it's easier to take the points than go for it? Of course it is

Can't decide who is more dumb here, the Americans posting in this thread or the Europeans.

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its smarter to go for points yes. if you go for it and fail you will be mocked (although if you go for it and succeed you're a hero)

Meanwhile some manlet spic dominates divegrass

How have they failed if they scored? If a team kicks a field goal to win the game, how have they failed? Think about what you're actually arguing. I know you don't watch American football and you're just trying to bait and be "cheeky", but you sound like an idiot. Field goals are part of the game. Games are won and lost on field goals all the time. Depending on the situation, a teams strategy for a series of downs could be simply to get into field goal range. Kickers are some of the most demonized players of all time. No other player on the field is in a situation to alter the game at a vital moment as much as the kicker.

Because he's allowed to abuse HGH

Is this a joke? How delusional are you Euros lol.

No, the standard in NFL is like Champions League standard.(every NFL team has "big European club"-tier resources and facilities) The vast majority of people are physically unable to compete, hence the ever shrinking player pool as you move up through high school-university-professional level.

Lomu would've probably been good desu.

Yes, but the user youre quoting is not Harry Kane.

>harry kane
>6'2"
>188 lbs

he's way too small.

I'm a soccer guy who didn't start watching American football until like 2014, and I used to say this.

In retrospect, it isn't really true. I know what you're saying, but you're missing that it's a strategic element of the game - it's not a failure to do something, but rather a decision to do something else.

I equate it to the backpass somewhat. A backpass is not a failure. It's a built-in part of the game, a strategic piece to consider.

Kek
Every single great football player started playing when he was a little kid

Actual thoughtful post about sports.

Better than this ill-informed shitposting deserved.

similarly, most of the guys who try to make the NFL on athletic talent alone, with minimal gridiron experience, are barely of professional standard. t. someone who follows the NFL.

this...there are about 12,000 kids playing Division-1 college football. the NFL is chosen almost exclusively from that talent pool

Jesus christ yurocucks making themselves look absolutely retarded in this thread holy shit

a single NFL team could literally kill the top 3 Premier League teams with their bare hands.

the athletic standards are much higher.

Yes, but the yuros are fucking up by assuming that the small talent pool means that our players are less talented at their craft. They fail to understand that those 12,000 kids are mostly the best high schoolers in the country with the rest playing at lower levels and an extremely minimal shot at going pro. Our system filters players until only the elite are left to become pros whereas in their system any scrub can be "professionial" because he can just play for a lower league or go to a mickey mouse league in some other country. It's quite literally quality over quantity.

Yuros continually argue via ad populum that their athletes must be better even though our athletes continually blow theirs out of the water in physical feats. They are just in denial.

that's a very good point.

the NFL has a much, much smaller talent poll because american football is a much harder game to play. Even at an amateur level most people can't do it.

>Jordan mailata, one of Australia ‘s best athletes
ahahaha i knew americans were dum but geez

>implying the fatties who play handegg wouldn’t get tired

Guys guys we won the Cold War! Communism BTFO forever and ever! We'll never have anything to worry about ever again, certainly not cultural enrichment! USA USA USA USA

kids at academies in europe are handpicked from schools across their respective regions(and from further afield) and have access to professional standard facilities and coaches, instead of coach buck'n'tuck's notepad.
saying these 12000 are the best 12000 doesnt mean anything

>he'll quickly discover that kicking a football is a lot different than kicking a football

Kicking a football is easy af. There is a video on the Tottenham YT channel where him and Dele Alli kicked a football (for presumably the first time) and the did really well. About a year or so ago I went to the college football HOF in Atlanta and they have this little indoor field where you can kick extra points. I had literally never kicked an extra point in my life and I went there and successfully kicked it in first try. 99% of kicking in football is just mental strength and not choking.

>kids at academies in europe are handpicked from schools across their respective regions(and from further afield) and have access to professional standard facilities and coaches,

So are our college students dumbass.

it looks so unnatural when he closes his mouth.

why black kids? their composure stat is 0

so it doesnt really hold up as a point
its like saying they have 2 legs
tyrone can just turn up to practice and get a diploma at the end
harry harrison-jetson might score 30 goals a season and still be replaced by joao n'copelli in the u19s