Reminder that Zinedine Zidane is the only player in the history of football that fits ALL the criteria for GOAT...

Because Blackburn's chairman refused to sign him because they already had Tim Sherwood. That's not a joke, that's actually what happened.

because he played in 90's serie a and then in most relevant club in the world, why would he go to england ?

I don’t see a libertadores title
Or +3x world champion

Never won the Eruos though

Premier League didn’t become the best league until 2005.

no Intercontinental Champions' SuperCup either
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Intercontinental_Supercup

Is losing your cool in one of your biggest moments, in the last game of your career, against your biggest rival, for the ultimate trophy, only to be sent off and watch your teammates choke from the locker room part of GOAT criteria?

He won the Euros in 2000 you fucking zoomer.
>this flag

What about people like Beckenbauer?

absolutely, only goats have this kind of dramaturgy

He won the Euros, not the Eruos

>Intertoto Cup

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So do I, AMA

I, for one, prefer his whore sister.

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kek

I don’t think he’s the GOAT but I think Zidane has the strongest relationship with greatness in the history of football. His managerial career only confirms this. Shit just goes his way.

definitely

Of course, .

t. Berbatov

Intertoto Cup was relevant in the 90s, you zoomer

based and materazzipilled

*blocks your path*
>World Cup 2002
>Copa America 1999 (counts as equivalent to a Euro)
>Champions League 2005-06
>League Winner: Spain: 2004-05, 2005-06, Italy: 2010-11
>Cup Winner Spain: 2005, 2006
>Intertoto Cup Winner: 2001
>Ballon d'Or 2005
>World Eleven: 2005, 2006, 2007
>Shirt Number: Usually 10
>Famous Skill: Too many to list
>Famous goal: The meme one against Chelsea

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Damn Materazzi looks like that now?
I think Zizou won.

How many world cup final goals did he score though?

and zidane is a muslim too

Only a GOAT could bow out in such a kino fashion

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>zero WC final goals
>zero CL final goals
I don’t think he even scored in a semifinal. Sad!

ronaldinho too

Whatever you want to tell yourself. Zizou regrets that headbutt every fucking day, I promise.

Not in the criteria, Sven

of course zizou won, materazzi legacy is being reminded how he got headbutted, nobody cares he won the wc he will always be remembered as the mean player who made zidane seethe

Arguably the most iconic moment in the history of sport. Absolutely GOAT material.

Underrated, but based exit. He left us wanting more. And more we got with the trilogy of him as a manager winning the decima, the decima 2: return of the decima and the tridecima: return of jafar.

He already has one World Cup, doubt he cares too much about not winning a second

I remember Materazzi scoring the equalizer in that game though faggot.

t. Luigi 1/16 sicilian

Yea, he probably doesn't care at all. You're right.

He wasn't consistent tho

Or, I'm old enough to remember the 2006 tournament.

i'm old enough to remeber 1998 final

Consistency is for autists.

he's been consistent when it mattered

But he was ejected in a WC final match for headbutting a player who insulted his sister. How the fuck can somebody that age, with that much experience, react that way?

It's the most shameful moment in World Cup history. More shameful than the Disgrace of Gijon.

>b-b-b-but he made that headbutt therefore he's shit reeeeeee

>that giant nutsack

It's better to burn out than it's to rust
(and end your career at Cosmos or banging trannies)

good guy Zidane built hospitals and football stadiums in the middle of nowhere up in the mountains, plus his dad's house is right across the valley from my family home.

But did he win an ESPY? I don't think so, I don't think so third worlders

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He stood up for what he believed in. A GOAT NEEDS to have personality. It's what makes them legends and not talented drones (see: C. Ronaldo)

ZZ is the most overrated player in history. Great? Yes. All time great? Sure. But GOAT? Not even close.

Nah. It was alpha. The most incredible way to bow out of sport.

>flag

Who's the GOAT then?

cope

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it was actually his first since the 98 one was rigged and he knows it

Dwayne DeRosario

kino

2 headers actually

Ronaldinho, Maradona, Pele and Fatnaldo also fit the criteria

Messi misses out due to no WC and being cucked by Chile
CR7 misses out due to no WC
Cryuff no WC

Nah, he was good but not at the level of Maradona or Pele.

youtube.com/watch?v=0-Qgh-hjcDw

How do Juve fans feel about him leaving to finally win the CL for the team that denied Juve?

He wasn't a statpadder, but how hard did he carry his team exactly?

It just seems like Maradona carried his team harder in the WC. Even in 1998 France already had a stacked team full of Ngubus to do the dirty work for him. He missed 2 games earlier in the tournament and they didn't even need him to win either time

He won 1 CL and 3 league titles playing for the most stacked teams in ten seasons

In 1998 he was good but far from his peak
Much more impressive in 2000 and literally godly in 2006

based

honestly I can't think of a more iconic name

>zoomers think the CL is an E-Z win since based Zizou won it 3 times in a row

Is cheating to win the WC a criteria?

>Intertoto Cup

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>no mitropa cup
>no latin cup
>no intercities fair cup

EXPOSED and DROPPED

I hoped you weren't serious. It was a consolation prize and awarded multiple times by year.

>Pele should have been red carded in 1970 semifinal
>Maradona handball in 1986
>Beckenbauer wins WCs with refball penalties (1974 and 1990 as coach)
>Zidane poisons Ronaldo in 1998

Now that you mention it...

>counts as equivalent to a Euro
Top kek

Only thing Zidane lacked was statpadding against minnows.

>Ronaldinho, Maradona, Pele and Fatnaldo also fit the criteria

1 (one) European Cup between those four.

>Eurocup champion knocked out by Uruguay
Yep

Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay would have several Euro's if they were allowed in

Pele won the CL twice (Copa Libertadores)
Maradona won Napoli's only international title

They wouldn’t have come close to winning any Euros after 2004.

Argentina KO'd 4 European teams in 2014, and the 5th came down to the wire

>>Zidane poisons Ronaldo in 1998
That's an achievement

>>Maradona handball in 1986
See The cheating is referred for the fact that Platini admit they controlled the draw to made the France-Brazil final. Honestly I think that WC winning by team in their home edition shouldn't be counted. The 3 biggest NT, Btazil, Italy and Germany have never won at their home.

Just for comparison, Portugal only needed to beat 3 European teams (Poland, Wales, France) to win the Euro

>winning WC at home is easy so it shouldn't count
>btw Germany, Brazil and Italy crumbled under the pressure of winning at home

way to defeat yourself

also Italy didn't win at home? you sure?

Hey I looked for Sudaca teams in the semis of the last WC and couldn't find any, care to explain?

Europe has more teams

The fact that 3 South American teams won almost as much as 10 European teams says a lot

Not during Italy '90.

> winning WC at home is easy so it shouldn't count
I didn't say it's easier. I say that everytime there are tremendous cheatings to help the home team.

Are you serious? What matters is the population, not the number of team.

Both population and number of teams matter.

More population means more talent pool.
But more teams means you get more "lives".

For all relevant South American teams to be eliminated, only 3 losses are needed. To eliminate every relevant European team, you need like 9 losses.

That 98 France team was stacked looking back

>90s Serie A defenders Thuram and Desailly
>midfield engines Vieira and Deschamps
>PL and Serie A top scorers Henry and Trezeguet up front

Also his CL win was on a Real team that had already won 2 CLs in the past 4 years.

Great player but how much heavy lifting did he actually do?

Ahah but Henry and Trezeguet were second choices to shitters like Guivarc'h (swimming pool salesman) and Dugarry and didn't play much. Djorkaeff was a much more important offesive player than Henry/trezeguet.
Vieira only played the garbage game of the group stage against Denmark.

>shitters like Guivarc'h

He'd won back to back golden boots in Ligue 1 and also the UEFA cup going into WC '98.

He was a shitter who missed every opportunity to score in that WC including the final.
Thankfully Zizou double dabbed the hues and saved the day.

He was the original Giroud.

Vieira didn't play much if at all in 98, Petit did. Not sure Trez did either. Imo Euro2000 was the peak in terms of quality that i've seen

zidane and ronaldinho were the goats but they didnt know how to explode the stats in their favour

He's the goat but people will argue otherwise because he didn't do meme hatricks against Getafe or Frosinone

>Intertoto

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Argentina couldn't even win the Copa America.

>Italy
1934
>Germany
1974

t. Mexican living in Europe because his home country is a shit hole.

he got dabbed on by Fergie's united in '99

because the premier league didn't become what it is today until Abramovich bought chelsea and installed Mourinho.

definite goat material. GOATs sometimes fall from grace too.

>literally looks better when bald

How does he do it?

his stats suck. the GOAT needs at least some impressive numbers. he didn't win anything very many times, didn't score many and didn't assist many.

small foreheads look weird

balloon door is not a criteria
considering it goes against everything football stands for
in football you win awards by earning them, by winning matches
balloon door is awarded by some journalists for your perceived merit
you're just saying
>this player is good because these other people consider him good
no, that's not how it works.

he's top 5-10 for sure
not GOAT material though, Messi and CR7 are better

Likewise trophies aren't a great indicator either as its a team sport. Like there was zero chance of Best or Weah ever winning an international trophy however godly they were.

Algerian actually

AHAHAHAAAA

berbers and africans just look better with a shaved head

You can only be GOAT in teamsports if you are an actual leader of the team.

The GOAT aura, which is undeniable with ZZ.

Isnt this the field fairy that tried to kill a guy with his huge fivehead?

based

In the 90s Copa America was 1000x more dificult and more competitive than Euro

in the 90s euro had just 8 teams

whats a cringe number shirt?

anything above 11

>doesnt mention libertadores 2013
literally helped one of the biggest clubs in brazil win it after the age of 30 and scoring insane goals

people only started caring about stats in the messi/CR7 era

The cro magnon opinion

Big game player but never consistently played on that level for a whole season.

Based you mean right? Standing for his people and not giving a fuck even in the WC final only makes him GOATer.

Not as good as Pele/Maradona but better than Messi/CR7

Missing copa america from this list

>At least 5 Balon de oro

Whoops, guess not.