/nfl/ General - GRONK SMASH Edition

If Cardinals take Murray there will be a flurry of trades at the top.

I like the pack picks, I'd probably take someone else other than Fant though.

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Not really. They're just padding for the playoffs.

IM MISS HIM ALREADY BROS

Reminder
>dallass
>kansas shitty

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Why are you Yea Forums racists even here? Just go to r/nfl for real discussion and not a stupid endless circlejerk.

Pats take hogkensen and Brody plays for another 10+ years

If >we trade up and land Hock I'll do a fucking backflip.

(We'll trade out of the first instead)

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Why don'tcha try bitching some more!

This

>You now remember Rob Gronkowski

I could see fant lasting to the end of the first

PhD in microbio, but I'm in a chemistry job right now

hockenson is the more complete TE thanks to his blocking though, Id rather have him

Maclin was still in the league?

>yfw the panthers win the owl

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Where'd you go? I'm applying to programs now for molecular bio/genetics

blocking doesn't even matter much at all

Gronk just happened to be great at that too

When was the last time a player had been as dominant as Gronk?

I want to say Calvin Johnson

The only thing the Pants are going to win is a blueballed QB

>Drafting a RB in the first round

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Bradys vagina posting without his trip again lmao.

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What's wrong with Adrian Peterson?

F
For Gronk.

Blocking absolutely matters a lot, especially to BB. If you can consistently dominate your man in the running game it makes it pretty much impossible to eliminate you as a player on offense. It also opens up a lot of weird formations and plays for your OC. The Pats won the super bowl by gashing people on the ground and having a tight end like Hock or Gronk makes a world of difference towards doing that.

I'm looking forward to the Panthers being ahead of the curve on using a hybrid defense to shut down meme Air Raid offenses.

Hopefully Rivera can conjure up whatever sorcery he uses to beat the Patriots to beat McVay so all the "muh offensive guru" stans in this fanbase can finally shut the fuck up.

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? I'm just trying to talk to that dude

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*is the best TE in the NFL with a ring*

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>hurrrr durrrr Darnold is a better player than Barkley

Every rookie QB last year except Baker looked pedestrian at-best. I saw absolutely zero evidence that the Giants would have been a better team with Darnold at QB.

Fants an Iowa te, he knows how to block

Press F to pay respects

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Based

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barkley could already be the best rb in the nfl but it doesnt fucking matter because rbs do not matter

They don't make your team better at all

I miss him bro

Darnold isn't "better", he is simply more valuable. Or would be if turns out as good as he was projected to

You dont get a (you) from a previous thread jackass

Do you guys think 50 years from now people will remember Gronk?

Who is the oldest HoF TE you can name?

Darnold showed some good flashes last year and he's younger than Baker
I haven't even written off Rosen yet, he was in the worst situation possible for a rookie qb

>Christian McCaffrey should be drafted in the fourth round IF you want him because almost 2,000+ YFS is meaningless

ok retard

John Mackey

Mike Ditka

people know who kellen winslow is

Both posts you replied to are in this thread

Winslow played like 30 years ago no shit

>old gay was the Kiwi

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TEs weren't really offensive weapons until Sharpe so it's hard to say

>Mike Ditka
People remember him only as a coach though

yes because their production is replaceable and mostly a product of their environment.

Though I'll give you this Mccaffrey is a great receiver and thats the only part that actually helps your team in today's nfl.

Indiana University, only place I got into kek
It's a good program tho, and Bloomington is a great place to live. I would've chosen it even if I got into the other programs I interviewed with.

Ditka but he's not just a TE, in fact I knew who he was for a long time before I even knew he was a TE, or even played.

Nice. And where are you working now?

he was drafted 40 years ago. people like dave casper but most people wouldn't recognize their names imo.

it's "meaningless" because the average 4th round RB is a lot closer to christian mccaffrey than the average 4th round corner is to denzel ward

Nobody remembers ditka as a te

>Indiana University
my condolences

>Indiana University
Lol what do they teach, how to cook meth and grow corn? Lmaoing @ flyovers

>Gronk retires
Fuck...I wanted 1 more year. I know he's injured to fuck and it makes sense to go out on a high note(literally had the game winning SB catch and won the owl, he's not going to top that), but I still kinda hoped he'd see Brady through to the end. At least he retired a Patriot.

The modern red zone superthreat recieving TE is a very different animal than most TEs in the HoF. People are going to remember Gronk, Gonzalez, Gates, and other guys like that for a pretty long time.

Didn't Kellen Winslow rape homeless people?

Who tf are Gonzalez and Gates?

Lel IU is pretty nice tho
At a CMO in Bloomington, wife and I stuck around cuz we like it here. Cheap land and cheap easy comfy living.

Willie McGinest had an interest projection:
boston.cbslocal.com/2019/03/13/rob-gronkowski-patriots-future-decision-willie-mcginest-prediction-nfl/
>“I think Gronk is going to take a break for a while. I don’t think he’s going to initially start off and come back. This is just my own assessment. Later on, deep in the season, he could come back,” McGinest said Tuesday night. “He’s going to let his body heal up and I think, mentally, he’s not football right now. He’s not ready to put on the pads and play football.”

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Is Gates even notable outside of his longevity?

Even if he comes back, he’s obviously not getting any younger and the pats have a minimal chance of repeating anyways so it’s just as well. Fucktards shouldn’t have released Allen though because their no. 1 TE is a literal who

Bloomington is a shithole in the middle of nowhere.

Not really tho, but ok

Get the fuck out zoomer

Dumb zoomer

Man, I hope he's right. Even if he took the full year off, I'd still like to see him go the last mile with Brady.

that was his son
most recieving TDs by a TE ever, although that is a result of his longevity as well

he was great in his prime, as good as anyone in the red zone.

I would put him in over witten

Seriously kill yourself

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>Reddit spacing
>doesn’t know about two TEs who were still in the league in the 2010’s

Either a zoomer or a retard, possibly both

Yes, really. I've been there and it's horrible. At least real University towns are nearby other good places. Bloomington has corn...

6th in all time receiving TDs, first among tight ends, 3rd among tight ends in yards. he's going to be in the HOF and he's one of the best receiving TEs of all time

Ummm how about you sweeties answer me question!

>ad hominem instead of providing evidence
Typical mid-Atlantic shitbird.

Allen is almost purely a blocking TE with some rare catches anyway

How about you use google instead of sperging out at people

There we go. Gates is literally the Marino of TEs.
>yeah, but

Yes but would you rather have a middle of the road catching tight end who doubles as a solid blocker, or a guy who spent half the season on the practice squad?

/Bills Owl 2020/

His comment was so ignorant it didnt deserve a detailed response. In fact it was so dumb I bet you were behind it.

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the Patriots should try to get Hernandez back
oh wait...

>pats have a minimal chance at repeating
this is objectively false; they are the best team in the league

Obviously not as you provided me a detailed response.
>it's been 5 years and the Ravens HAVE YET to recover from this play

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XDDDDD

Is that what you wanted

id rather draft one of the TE's coming out, its a pretty good class

>sons of memearchy
Literal pleb taste

Rings didn't stop lt from getting in

and they never will

Probably, but only his son got in trouble for it

Literally no offense other than Brady and Jules, and this is coming from a patsfag. Defense is okay, but we need someone other than him to lead the offense.

Y'all got Sony now

Thats some DC universe tier CGI. Get a better taste in film you jackass.

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they're drafting Big Cock Hock

Is Tom Brady good only because Gronk was the best TE for the past 9 years?

It's a valid question. Some players play for a really long time and rack up high scores just because they play more than any other guy at the position. Most tight ends don't have 16 year careers. Just because someone plays a long time and has big numbers doesn't necessarily mean they're great players.

Vinny Testaverde has more TDs than Joe Montana and is also top 15 in tons of different categories as far as QBs go. Not many people would argue he's actually a great quarterback though, because he wasn't. He just played a really long time. Same goes for Warren Moon.

Brady and Jules is all you need

It's like you learned nothing this last year. It's like people never fucking learn.

Remember: literally every sports outlet in the county said the same shit about the Patriots in 2018 that you did just now. And they won the Super Bowl.

Gates was both though.

Granted he hasnt been a top tight end in over half a decade but that shouldnt take away from how good he was earlier in his career.

If you seriously cant remember how good Gates was in the 2000's your dumb zoomer ass shouldnt ever reply to me.

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TE is kind of a different position though, if you're not a good receiving tight end you won't get the opportunity to put up the kind of numbers that Gonzales/gates put up even if you play for the same length of time

Dude you were born in like 1999, shut the fuck up

1989, but whatever

t. born in 2005
get the fuck out you underaged faggot

I have a somewhat interesting question

Let's say you get drafted into the league as a blocking TE, literally an o-lineman except in a TE slot. If you never gave up a sack or whatever metric they use to measure the o-line, could a HoF case be made for you?

yes but if you were somehow that good at blocking defensive lineman you'd be moved to the O-line anyhow

its a fair question but full blocking tight ends are just like fullbacks and long snappers at this point.

they're so marginal and replaceable and arguably outdated

Zoomers

I’m not saying we’re gonna bottom out or anything, I’m just saying that we need better offensive players to continue playing at a good level.

Who the fuck is Don Hutson anyway

>Belichick seeing all the cap space Gronk's retirement creates

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>be so shitty of an announcer the NFL hires you back on to be a shitty TE

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How many years did Pence serve? Oh wait, LARPing...

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jej
an user here had a good theory that maybe Bill quietly told gronk to take a pay cut or dont come back
I can see that happening tbqh

Isn't that a bit old to live at home?

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Trump is a jew puppet ya low IQ mongrel

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Amherst is just awful. But Urbana might take the cake

And who did we have this year that we're not going to have next year? Hogan, who did nothing all year and dropped every key play involving him in the playoffs? Gronkowski, who only showed up in the playoffs during critical moments and otherwise played utterly average all year?

The Patriots barely had any offensive weapons to work with period this year and they still won. While better offensive weapons would be nice, the Patriots prefer a wide variety of viable offensive options versus star offensive players

I'm not worried in the slightest. If they can win the owl with what they were working with in 2018, I'm not sure how you can even be worried about 2019.

Which is the most kino pre-2000s super bowl

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I think Witten is the perfect example of big career numbers due to the length of his career. He was "good" for what, four or five seasons and pretty pedestrian the other 10 years of his career.

Hall of Famer? Idk.

Robert Kraft went to a whorehouse staffed by sex slaves, whose owner watched the Super Bowl with Trump. How fucked up is that shit?

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>worshipping that useless piece of white bread
Top cringe

>Isn't that a bit old to live at home?

People with jobs live at home idiot. Are you seriously bragging about living on the street?

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HOCK EN SON
HOCK EN SON
HOCK EN SON
HOCK EN SON
pls bill

>Chiefs have midseason collapse after their assault loving RB gets cut for punching multiple people out kicking a bitch while they're down and lying about it all

If chiefs had hunt until the end theyd be SB 53 champions. Their offense would've been too strong. But
>HURRRSURRR RBS BRING NO VALUE

>mom, I got a big meeting tomorrow, can you wash my good shirt?

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>you now realize a Vikings/Jets Super Bowl almost happened not once but twice in 1998 and 2009

Gronk is a divine hero

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Come watch Johnny Manziel hopefully not fuck up in tonight's game.
youtube.com/watch?v=gv9wmhbS5Mk

Broncos/Packers

>almost

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She was pictured with him as were other rich people. That's not that absurd.

What is absurd is a billionaire getting caught getting sexual favors. That is beyond fishy. Why and how questions come to mind. He is a billionaire.

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Patrick Mahomes threw 50 td passes, and you're saying Kareem Hunt was the mvp of that offense?

Arent you supposed to be perma banned pedo?

Yeah Witten was very good, but I wouldnt say Hall worthy. Hes the Jerome Bettis of TEs

Not fucked up at all, really. I don't even get why the media is acting all puritan about whores all of a sudden. Lib media blows prostitutes/working girls all the time and glorifies the lifestyles of pornstars, but the second some rich john actually fucks these girls, they get all heughty and puritan and try to tear him down. It's fucking pointless.

In the age of ass eating pornography being the standard now, who the fuck is seriously shocked and outraged by prostitutes?

cant think of a better way to go out, except maybe turning that into a TD
he looked like his old self again on that catch

So it's not at all fishy that a Sex Trafficker was watching the Super Bowl with the President of the United States, who's big push is to end the sex trafficking of illegal aliens?

Kraft got a rub and tug, that's not so odd. His fight against it is.

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Billionaires needs to nut too user. At least she wasn't 12

This. Wasnt Steamy Daniel their hero last week?

>old gay
>calling anyone else a pedophile
you are the biggest faggot in these generals, jesus. and thats saying something.

why does that faggot bradysknee always start up with political shit?

>mom, the Pats fag is being mean to me again, can you make me more tendies? IT'S ONLY 8, I DON'T GOTTA WAKE UP FOR WORK UNTIL 6!!!

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If the ball had been any longer the safety would have gotten there, it was a perfect throw and catch

>off topic posting

Uh oh!

Didn't he get caught posting CP before

Retsrds can't help but take the bait

The Super Bowl is on topic, as is an NFL owner.

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You would also have to absolutely fucking flatten everyone in the run game to even think about it

Why was Mia making this face?

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BIll has to fucking nail this draft or no stairway to seven.

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Gronk retiring is massive news and he played 9 years.

Imagine the day Brady actually announces he's done

It was homosexual CP. He said it was an 'accident'.

>Muller report is nothing
Libs btfo

There was a Republican near her

Shes owns numerous massage parlors all up and down Florida and is wealthy.

Is she friends with him or does she just get pictures taken with him? If shes friends then that's slightly odd.

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I'm actually going to call in sick that day. I really don't think I could handle it

nothing is weird to me anymore after seeing Peyton retire

With Gronk retiring should the Brown's jump the Pat's as AFC Champion favorites?

That team needed a star RB to make up for their bottom of the league ranked defense in points. Chiefs lost more games after losing hunt. Couldn't gain traction on drives previously they had no issue with. Hunts explosiveness for the first half of the season was the difference between a chiefs 1st seed and division title vs playing from the wildcard.

If chiefs had no hunt they'd have finished inironically under the chargers. Mahomes was the key piece of the offense hell. Kelce and hunt were invaluable too, but to carry that defense? He needed hunt too.

Why did he even have it

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>pot and kettle, both black

She's friends with many billionaires and Republican politicians, despite owning yankee crankees staffed by Chinese sex slaves. I guess that is not a disqualifier to watch the Super Bowl at Mar A Lago with the President.

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Based Jefferson. So glad he invented America

You are incredibly gay

Seems self-evident

I am more shocked his parents are ok with him possessing homosexual child porn in their house.

No? Gronk didn't play well until the playoffs in 2018, and even then he was mostly important versus the Chiefs and Rams. I love Gronk but he was clearly injured and mostly toasted all year. They relegated him to just blocking near the end of the regular season. It wouldn't be hard for his replacement to put up his numbers next year.

Gronk in his prime was untouchable. 2018 Gronk was just decent.

it sounds like they needed a defense to make up for their defense

This. I am shocked he lasted to the playoffs, honestly. He looked done week 6.

I guess being a repair man doesn't fulfil the thrills he needs

Browns are too enigmatic right now to be safely competitive. They're putting a lot of faith in a HC with no experience

he's retarded don't bother

Immigrants in America commit less crime than native born citizens. It's objectively true.

>tfw we'll never get to watch these two oversized freaks go at it again

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Not if you remove the blacks.

he was still a great blocker

Does Gronk go into acting now?

>Gronk retires, Pats pick up Jared Cook
And nothing changed.

Hopefully Willey is right and Gronk is just taking the regular season off.

Unless the Dolphins succeed with Fitzpatrick, the JEST get their shit together, and/or the Bills finally turn the page. HA!

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he'll go into WWE

Daily reminder to filter oldgay

Moving goal posts

Give me one good reason as to why I should filter out America’s best spice

Mon frere, the French as always are right.

I remember reading that Cena trying to talk Gronk into joining WWE.

Technique + size will do that, he lost almost all of his explosiveness

You have to, they can't kick field goals.

I mean he showed up when he had to, probably on account of the chiefs putting Eric Berry on him like a bunch of retards because they acted like he still had speed

This

I thought this a couple times. It seems old gay starts drunk posting around the time kiwi shows up.

Unless the Kiwi really was the shooter.

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I think OldBay is one of the finest posters on this board tbqh.

His insight is genuinely unrivaled and I think people hate him because they ain't him. Keep on being based OldBay.

Still when he needed to meant he had to coast as a receiver for most of the season and it clearly wasn't worth it to his body

Haha nice try old gay

>Still when he needed to meant he had to coast as a receiver for most of the season and it clearly wasn't worth it to his body
He's got three rings, which is three more than Tony Romo.

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Yeah but when he was actually getting thrown to he showed flashes of explosive ability, but whenever he got lots of RAC yards he always looked hobbled doing so so I guess I see your point

I'm not a Cowsoi fag (Iggles) so I'm not sure why you brought up Romo to me

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>guys, immigrants are a GOOD thing because they commit less crime if we count all the violent black assholes you guys hate already!
Wow, compelling argument. I'm sure you won the stormfront crew over with your stellar logic.

I thought his separation on average was a lot worse and burst especially, his YAC was gone by 2016 but he was still a beast to get open

wtf that's me

Reminder that the rams WILL go undefeated and win superbowl 54. It is the prophecy

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Yeah I mean even though he wasn’t fast he was still a monster in terms of that but he only got it in open field, and he didn’t really break tackles as well as he used to.

rams won't even make the playoffs

Tbh all TEs in the HoF prior to 1995 or so should be cleared out with the exception of the few that were damn good blockers and there should be a super addition of TEs into the HoF that played from 2000 onwards.

imagine not scoring a single td in the super bowl

No that's a terrible idea. Every single one of those players got in by being one of the best of their era, and they were judged accordingly. You can't compare someone like Sonny Jurgensen to Tom Brady, it just doesn't make sense.

They haven’t even lost any of their impact players what are you on about

>tfw no more Gronkino

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goff will shit the bed and they'll go 8-8 now that gurley is finished, sorry

They still have goff and gurley is ded

>gurley is finished because he got injured in week 17 and didn’t do well in the playoffs

Lol no the second they get rid of Goof and get a real QB they’ll win an owl with that roster

gurley is finished because his knee is a ticking time bomb, bozo

Apologies

They're going to give goff a huge contract and put themselves out of contention for its lifetime

Dude c'mon. Prior to the modern era,TEs were treated as tweeners that caught the ball once in a blue moon. They didnt block as good as the OL, they didnt catch as well as the other receivers, and they weren't being used as red zone threats like they are today. They largely just ate space on the field.
With the exception of the absolute superstar phenomenonal blocker TEs, most old school TEs shouldnt be in the HoF. Its equivalent to giving the special ed kids ranked participation trophies.

Don't call my boyfriend a bozo

Bortles starting QB by the 9th week

That's still unfair though dude, you can't just remove people from the HoF because the position evolved. Yeah they're completely underwhelming to the talent of today, but they got in fair and square.

i have
>me and brady's sixth ring
filtered and half the posts in this thread are hidden

The 1971 Miami dolphins didn’t score a touchdown in the Super Bowl.
Y’know what they did the next season though?

should Jim Brown be removed because the fullback position is dead?

but Kap is still out of the league

James Develin is single handily keeping the position alive.

they made sure their franchise would peak and remain fucking awful for the next 40 years

For me, it's THE Philadelphia Football Eagles, Philadelphia Baseball Phillies, Philadelphia Basketball 76ers, Philadelphia Hockey Flyers, Philadelphia Soccer Union and Philadelphia Lacrosse Wings.

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fuck off roach

Based moustache

try me mutt

The fuck does he do other than half-yard TD’s? He caught the ball like three times the whole year

I don't want to take things full political, but I suppose he's earning more money playing the victim

Being based

Based

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The U got a big win yesterday. I was at the game, pic related.

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Discord trannies are going nuclear

No sweetie, just no

>JMac retiring
F

THROW THE JEW DOWN THE WELL

No way you're fucking serious about that thing btw

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SO MY COUNTRY CAN BE FREE

This looks birdy gud. How u make?

He's a wrecking ball of a lead blocker, that's what he does. Now that they have a true, complete RB in Michele, White can continue to work his magic and Develin can keep doing his thing.

>wasting red label knob creek on this
America does deserve to fall.

Knob Creek is fucking atrocious

It is now that they switched to a blended bourbon.

>watches flopball

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most dominant WR ever

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Ask Old Bay, he list the ingredients in a previous thread, I just wondered the proportions...It tastes like pure trash.
Pic's not mine tho, but look kinda similar. I used four roses, Heinz ketchup and regular coke.

Blessed.

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Considering i’m just a bandwagoner I’d be okay with that

Pic's not mine. I used Four Roses

>4thqbbrady
>*checks down*
Wow, what a great game manager

Old Ezra is really good.

If only they could stop him...

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God that looks disgusting

Why are northeasterners so insufferable?

>does literally nothing in the owl
53 just shows how much the pats are belichicks than it is brody's like some delusional patsfags think

Ehh, it's comfy

That's the mid-Atlantic states for you. YOU WANT IT WIT OR WITOUT DA WIZ?!

Will do, thanks

Where do you live?

Fuck, man, Nina didn't deserve that shit

The Pats moved the ball they just couldn't finish drives, every receiver outside of Edelman was awful for the Pats

A bit north of TayTay.

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Nah, we wouldn't make something as awful as that in Philly. Also, no one here actually eats cheesesteaks.

>he actually drank it

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What is this discord trannies meme? Just another way to disregard people who don't agree with you?

>In his last game, Gronk's caught 6 balls for 87 yards
>the Patriots only scoring drive which started and ended with a Gronk catch went for 69 yards

Pottery

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Broncos/Packers
Rams/Titans if you count it as still the 99 season

Remind me how many points belishit gave up to a 2nd string QB in superbowl 52

You know what I'm sayin'... baby.

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I know you're trolling, I made the thing for the lolz and just take a little sip. I'm a foreigner but I'm not dumb.

It looks better than tastes, trust me

The ones where the bengals lost. Fuck the bengals.

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Hey, fuck you too buddy

I love how Gronk is just some interdimensional Chad that transcends all the emasculated cuckboy "m-me too!" bullshit

Any girl that wouldn't give it up to Gronk is sick in the head (and not only the head)

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Based on this pic, are you Gen X, Millennial, or Zoomer?

I'm a based Zoomer (born 98).

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Gronk would fuck the dyke out of Portia De Rossi.

But seriously, don't patronize #metoo, it's never right to Big Ben a girl. Big Ben is a rapist.

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What ass? Jesus christ this entire post

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Shut the fuck up

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Cringe

>be me
>shitpost on Yea Forums talking shit about the bengals
>also been practicing to become a football punter my whole life
>make it into the nfl draft
>mfw i get drafted by the bengals

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Core millennial/gen Y here, though I identify with some of the things in early millennial/gen Y.

Post cursed NFL images.

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Pete and Pete was kino

Late Gen X here, I'm so old...

Someone should do one of these images with memorable sports moments.

kek

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If the Cardinals pick Murray and fall for the "mobile" quarterback meme I'm fucking done with the NFL for a while. We're going from being the new browns to being the new browns on steroids.

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You know exactly that they will.

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Cardinals should go full tank like the dolphins are doing

Nothing says pathway to relevancy like Ryan Fitzpatrick.

>datasstho.jpg
lolwut?

For a bridge QB it doesn't get much better than Fitzpatrick
If they stick with the plan they might be competitive in 3 years

I expect an thrilling Draft Bowl next season between the Cards and the Phins

All the obnoxious boomers saying he's jesus and how they're treating rosen probably. I'm fucking terrified what Kliff is gonna do and I didn't think the cardinals would be that bad last year.

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Name a team that used him to success?

Thank fuck for the AAF

youtube.com/watch?v=SHaZiVNjigA

It's not about winning if you're tanking
Winning games would give you less draft capital while you're in a rebuild

Go back to tumblr sweetie

>the pats have a minimal chance of repeating
Here's your (you).

Quality over quantity

Where does it rank in the all time top Gronkowski plays?

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I like how Gronk was Ray Lewis all of a sudden.

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Ray Lewis was never a dirty player like Gronk, Harrison, Vrabel or Brady.

i'll miss gronk laughing at manlets

oh yeah ok first year watching football I see

HE DINDU NUFFIN!

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This. Ray just killed people in real life and got away with it.

I really really like Tom Brady.

Yeah but Brady was accused of deflating footballs!

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i mean there's no nfl rule against killing people off the field

Hell, that'll actually boost jersey sales.

When is it going to be "cool" to be a defensive-minded head coach again?

I absolutely marvel at the fact that at at least one point last season Seahawks, Ravens, and Panthers fans all wanted their head coach fired even though they're among the Top 5 defensive coaches in the league because "MUH OFFENSIVE GURU WE WANT THE AIR RAID WE WANT THE NEXT SEAN MCVAY!!!!!!!"

>libtard detected

Defense will be cool again when McGay and the lambs go 2-14 next season.

he has that kids show on Nickelodeon or something doesn't he?

The games rigged against defense now

>hear rumors of RW to the Giants
>think it's a stupid offseason rumor
>WIlson goes on Jimmy Fallon
>rumor is mentioned
>hehe I don't think Seahawks will let me get away

What the fuck kind of answer is that?

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It means the Giants are going to win the superb owl

>Russell Wilson and golden Tate on the same team again

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>against the Cowboys

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WH*TE BOI BTFO

real talk gronk was nigger tier and i'm annoyed he retired before he was concussed to death

t. pathetic small dicked Bilce fan

No, it means that the Seahawks are going to give Wilson the next big albatross qb contract.

Can't think of a player who deserves a big payday more than Wilson.

t. nigger

I love Wilson and I want him to be >our qb forever, but he's going to be fucking over the team's cap situation for as long as he's there.

...

It's not Wilson's fault the Seahawks didn't do more with their window. They need to pay him.

that narrative that got btfo when the patriots defence destroyed the rams offence which was supposedly one of the new type of NFL offence
Bill holding the chiefs to 0 points in the first quarter in the own fucking stadium kinda proves it too (second half not so much)
this draft is so defence heavy that the "le new offensive nfl" meme will be put to bed

The NFL league office wants offense because fans raved over Rams/Chiefs and blasted the Super Bowl as being "boring". If defenses catch up to the Air Raid they'll just make new rules further nerfing defense.

Wentz is their new Golden Boy so they'll probably make some new bullshit the next time he gets hurt (While still allowing defensive players to headhunt Cam Newton)

Think of the 12.7m in cap we just got bros

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cope

12.7m is like 2 pro bowlers for BB

Does it matter? The Patriots mass-produce players and let other teams overpay for their stars (Most of whom are completely worthless outside of the system).

there is no player you can sign for 12 million that has near the impact of Gronk, bud

Pats literally won a Super Bowl without Gronk

personally I think there is a difference between good defensive football and a offense failing against a good defense. Jared Goff made nothing but poor decisions, that's why the superbowl was boring

>Drew Lock at 10
>Only wideout in the first round is an SEC combine baby
>AJ Brown before Marquise Brown
>GB spending a first on a literal who at the TE

To be fair there's only like a dozen players in this draft that are true first rounders.

This might be the most idiotic thing I've ever seen posted on this board and I've been here since 2007. Blocking doesn't matter? A receiver at the end of the game will have at most 10 catches and the average is probably 4-5. That means anywhere between 80 to 90 percent of the plays in a game a receiver will be doing something other than catching a ball. Pull your head out of your ass.

>>Drew Lock at 10
elway adores him. don't be surprised.
>>Only wideout in the first round is an SEC combine baby
>>AJ Brown before Marquise Brown
you realize these two things contradict each other right
>>GB spending a first on a literal who at the TE
how do you not know who noah fant is? are you a casual?

>Elway
Ok fine that's fair.

>two things contradict each other
Nigger I'm fucking history doctor I don't remember everything

>How do you not know who a non award winning non all American from a Big 10 bottom feeder is
Because I only pay attention to relevant players from relevant teams.

Not in the past five years

holy fucking based

Vs the Falcons u braindead retard

painfully casual

I miss him bros

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I press S to spike the football

Based giant madman

Forced meme cock sucker

Reminder that bitchknees blew a tranny janny just so he can shitpost on here

t. radavius white

This is scitzo, the post
Patriots are pro cheating, pro treason and pro prostitutes like Trump

t. Never set foot in /nfl/ and had to listen to Me and Brady’s Sixth Knee’s excessive libshit whining

>kyler murray at 1

how desperate are people these days

I don't know about the gay shit you said but he basically is the mspaint Chad incarnated. Give him the ouch tanktop and there he is in front of you.

It'll get popular again when defenses resettle themselves and get their compatible stars together. A lot of defenses are pretty anonymous now that a lot of the noteworthy older guys are cycling out, but they'll probably have a better showing in the next couple years.

having an elite defense and mediocre offense gets you 10 wins at best in the modern NFL
having an elite offense and mediocre defense gets you minimum 12 and a conference championship game

looks comfy fren,

you're right man haha the pats are DEAD without gronk haha lol!!!!!

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Back to plebbit zoomer. You must be 21 to post

On paper it's the Browns. Jets and Bills are have both reset from a strong rebuild. Pats coasting to the post season might be over. Pats have lost some key players and have the oldest QB in the league. The Pats could wind up being the Giants next season if they aren't lucky.

>delusion: the post

people were saying the same thing about the pats last offseason and even early season lmao

Is old bay a discord tranny?

for sure

People are getting way too hyped kn the browns
Let’s wait until they win something before we crown them
They have all the hallmarks of a combustible disaster just asmich as they have winning traits
>first year coach
> diva qb and wr
>no experience winning as a team

>On paper it's the Browns
how fucking stupid are you holy shit

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Worked out well for the Pats.

No u, t.bh

Eagles

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If you were a turbo giga chad nfl player, how would you announce your retirement?

Classy instagram post desu

From a yacht

Thank You BDN

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>player uses PEDs
>gets a 4 game "suspension" aka rest and relaxation before being inserted back into lineup
Explain this /nfl/

Are the namefags here mentally ill? I stopped by to see the commentary on Gronk retiring and they’re still here like always.

They’re always here. It’s deranged.

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Tell them I’m an abstinent vegan before winning an owl and retiring

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>I stopped by to see the commentary on Gronk retiring
you might be mentally ill yourself m8

They don't get paid for the games they miss due to suspension

t. Salty Patfaggot
I never miss a chance to see Patfaggots cry

i'm sure you've had a lot of those in the last five years during which they've won three owls and appeared in four

I feel that way too brethren. I knoe it's my fault for listening to sports casters but I hate how everyone's touting it to be a sure thing.

Nosen played with heart despite the adversity. If we become even more of a laughing stock, I want to fail with him. Not have some fucked up revolving door at QB

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when Sean McDermott holds the rest of the league to 10 ppg

>Nosen played with heart
Too bad he didn't play with talent.

Trade up to get Hock.
With this new influx of cap space they can sign McCoy when he gets cut.

Does anyone believe this isn't what is going to happen?

Who could behind that o line?

Why would they sign mccoy

He is a very good DT.

Why do teams keep falling for the black qb meme?

Far more failed white QB's than black QB's, user.

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They are cheap and easily replaced.

>black quarterbacks have won 1.5 out of 53 super bowls.

Why do teams keep falling for the cannon arm, shit accuracy "project QB" meme

reminder.

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If you get one in the later rounds they are a lottery ticket.
If you grab one high you get to look for anew GM.

And then get paid all their incentives because (((they))) won an Owl as MVP.

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one of the white qb's is Joe Flacco so maybe let's all just settle down and judge men by the content of their character.

Wilkins or Jacobs

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>25&26
Prediction: Some other team gets that player, and deals him to JAX for Foles.

3-D chess, y'all.

MODS = FAGGOTS

Remember when the Falcons traded 500 picks to get Julio Jones? I remember.

You're no better

The Patriots will have to trade up into the top 15 if they want one of the top 2 tight ends.

one will drop past 15 but not far

>15% of every catch Gronkowski had in his nfl career was a touchdown
>mfw I have no face

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Don't think fant will go that early

Everybody wants to have the first great black qb (Wilson doesn't count because he's practically white). Whichever team gets the GOAT black qb will get every African American as fans for life.

>31 days until the draft

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>mfw I have no face
Sorry to hear that brother. Were you in Iraq too? I lost my left leg.

Top 15? No. Top 20? Likely. Fant is really good.

I watched Sam Bradford play behind a worse OL, with worse skill players and worse playcalling do better when he was a rookie. I've seen Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson thrive behind OL's just as bad. Stop pretending Rosen is just a product of his environment. He's bad.

Meaningless stat t.bh. He's still the GOAT TE though.

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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>contrarian implies kyler murray isnt incredibly talented and shouldnt be drafted at number 1
wow incredible take user tell me more

whatever trannyjanny poopoo

Because there are more white qbs overall. Do people like you even know about things like "per capita"?

last 2 digits are how many hot pockets a janny eats in a day

>implying flacco is not elite.

You're arguing with people that think black people are incapable of playing QB despite Mahomes being the MVP and Cam winning MVP in 2015

He's also part asian so these racists can't even keep to their own retarded 19th century debunked racial theories /pol/ taught them

>GOAT TE
>always injured
>is a Brady and Belichick baby
>played most of his snaps in the slot or outside, not as an inline TE

Fucking casual

Yes I am. If I was a mod i wouldn’t ban someone just for talking about Donald trump and also erase everything they’ve ever done from the board.

mahomes is a good qb because of his white side.

cam had a baby-easy schedule in 2015 and got embarrassed in the owl.

>gronk is good enough to play anywhere on the line.
>still is more than capable of playing a classic tight end role, but nobody can match his mismatch ability.

How can you be the GOAT TE when you're an injury prone oversized WR???

>erase everything they’ve ever done from the board
What is this autism? Nothing stays here, except for on independent archive sites

gronk playing half a season produces more than most tight ends do in their career.

Because most TEs spend half their snaps blocking

youre talking to me as if i'm a nerd who doesn't hate niggers or something and I don't really appreciate that. I do agree that most of the posters in this thread are idiots though, Kyler Murray is an incredible QB and will do very well.

>a tight end should only be able to block.

why not just put another offensive lineman in at the tight end position all the time then? because according to you, tight ends are nothing more than skinny offensive tackles.

Gronk going out after a season of being an elite blocking tight end is good proof that he is the GOAT at the position. Can't argue with it anymore.

Nice.

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Because O linemen can't be used as decoys for when you do want to pass

You can't have a TE out blocking only, this is why we read posts instead of being a total retard that doesn't know what 50% means

Obviously you want a guy that can do both. Block well, and also exploit size/athleticism mismatches in the passing game.

>*becomes an elite OT, shuts down all your pass rushers, catches a touchdown pass, sings sweetly, and fucks your girl in you're path*

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NFL HOF is all about what you did. Not what you could've done.

Injuries are always used as a negative. The same should be true in GOAT arguments.

Guys you never missed games and played through injuries like Witten seen as superior by the boomers who run the NFL, not zoomers who only care about highlights and hype.

I bet you people think Bell and Brown are the GOAT RB and WR

And gronk is perfectly capable of blocking and is not a pass-catching only meme tight end. He is just also really, really good at catching, smoothbrain.
read who I was replying to.

Looks like Sack or Pick and his scheme have been found out

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>Witten
Fuck off nigboy shill. Witten sucks and was never more than mediocre. Just because you're an ironman doesn't mean you're good.

witten is only seen as good tight end because he is durable and is a cowshitter.

>Gronk retires mere days before Wrestlemania

He's about to visit Suplex City

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Anyone who thinks gronk isn't a first ballot hofer doesn't deserve a vote

You will not find a single person of credibility say such a thing

>Gronk and kittle at mania
I fucking hope so

talking heads on espn are not credible.

t. Democrat

And you are? You're clearly a mentally ill hater

>unironically watching wwe.
would rather watch japanese ladyboy luchadors.

Te Hof locks rn:
>Gates
>Gronk
>Witten
Any others? Witten might not be first ballot but he's definitely going in

Getting into Canton as a tight end is almost as hard as getting in as a safety. The GOAT TE Gonzalez had to wait years before he was inducted

Gonzo got in his fir

Lucha House Party is gone though, the closest they have now is No Way Jose or New Day

would sean taylor be a hall of famer if his career did not get cut short on account of being murdered

Gonzo got in his first year of eligibility was what I meant to say here

>unironically watching wwe.

>Witten might not be first ballot
You seriously don't understand how revered he is by the NFL

I really hope he pans out this year. Could be a fantastic pro bowler with his size and athleticism. Also the bodyguard is on his last legs.

>Gonzalez had to wait years before he was inducted.

players have to be retired for at least five years before they can get inducted.

idk why, probably in case they ever decide to come back.

>nfl fellates cowshitter
wow tell me more

I'm not saying he won't be just I could see the argument against him. He was never the dominant force a guy like Tony g, gates or gronk was

>TEs are judged by their passing numbers and not their blocking

You realize the primary pass catching TE is only a recent phenomenon you fucking retard?

Jason Witten is quite literally one of the best blocking TEs ever while being one of the most unguardable route runners ever

>this is the brain of the average /nfl/ poster
Lmao fucking loser

gronk will come back for sure just in time for the playoffs

>Electing a blocking te to the hall
There's only 8 tight ends in the hall of fame and only one of them is there for his blocking

With every post you make, you show your IQ level to be lower than previously thought

Jesus Christ you cowshitters get up in arms about nothing
Witten is a hall of fame lock. Will he be a first ballot guy? Maybe but I can see the arguments against it when he becomes eligible in 6 years

Stop posting

Retard

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Prove me wrong

Witten should be disqualified from the HOF simply for his MNF debacle

Gronk is only in HOF because of rings

Holy shit this thread is bad.
Can't end quickly enough

the more posts means it will just end quicker.

Wouldn't it be weird if Jimmy G and George Kittle kissed haha?

t. ony gonzalez

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>goat TE
>1 playoff win

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Not really, they're both fags

because a;;en is the goat

>Super Bowl 54 is in Miami, and it’s a rematch of the ages
>On February second, who will be crowned champions of the NFL?
>the defending champions the Patriots!
>or the undefeated Los Angeles Rams
>Watch the superbowl live February 2nd, only on Fox

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Burr Puckers confirmed for season opener, TNF at Soldier field, 100 years of the NFL and 100 years of burrs.

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who is going to be the one to injure rodgers and how are they going to do it

based burrs

they step on his foot but he leads a 30 point margin of victory

Mack, and hes gonna do it with his veiny purple headed mule pecker. Cap this

cant wait to see how the bears lose this one in a heartbreaking fashion

numerals confirm

NEW in a few shitposts
good night sweet prince

trick question.

he trips in the locker room and twists his ankle, 4-6 weeks on the IR

go away

correct and chekt

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imagine unironically thinking that THIS is the year Dallas turns it around.

I'd still like them to take an OT with one of the second rounders. Cajuste if he falls, or Bobby Evans or someone similar. But yeah, I'm hoping Mailata reaches his potential. He's a great kid, and he legitimately could end up being an elite blocker.

Dallas has already turned it around. They are on trajectory to win the owl in 2021.

This. He was never all that good, but he played for a long time on a media darling team.

cringe

Yes, a crap QB going from a late round rookie deal to top market QB contract on a team that's never been able to manage the cap will surely push them to the next level.