The great debate

Salah this season already has more goals than Rooney and Tevez that season.

>Rooney
>Ever a good player

>muh chips

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>I judge players based on wiki stats

Just stop talking zoomer

Far better than the one season terrorist though eh

Ferdinand was overrated shite

Both fullbacks, Van Dijk and one of the front 3 would definitely get in. Possibly Fabinho as well

Oh this is just you being Islamophobic, I should've known better.

Just stop. Liverpool are shite player wise, they just run a lot to make up for their lack of ability.

*checks the league table*

Standard Chartered < AIG desu

Vidic>Ferdinand>Kompany>>>>>Van babbydick

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De Ligt is better than both of them

depends if we get to see Virgin van dick against aging Messi or not.

Oh I remember that goal that was when Liverpool won the league right??

>I remember that goal
>proceeds to demonstrate that he doesn't in fact remember that goal
even when trying to be a memer, you're shit at it, leaf

i can't fucking stand this board

Lol this isn't a debate. van Djik isn't even Ronny Johnsen level yet nvm 2008 Rio, the then undisputed best defender in the world (yes, better than Terry and Vidic pre injury)

vidic was the best, at least in terms of peak

>Salah isn't better than Rooney
m8

@91666161
>the joke
>your head
Lmao you don’t even deserve a (you) you fucking retard ahaha Hahahahahajaha

Rooney actually performs vs teams that aren't relegation fodder

Yes, I got the joke. The joke was "Liverpool didn't win the league, therefore Torres regularly humiliating Vidic is invalid". It doesn't change the fact that it was an awful attempt at a joke and a pathetic attempt at deflecting away from the point of the discussion.

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You need to go back to whatever goatfucking hellhole you came from.

>if he's a retarded muslim he can't be good at football
Rooney's a fucking scouser. He's about level on the retardation scale as a muslim and he's still worse than Salah.

You could make a case for Alisson, VvD, and Robertson/TAA.

None of United's current players would get into Liverpool's 2008 team either though.

>Comparing players from a team who have won zilch to a team that won the title 3 years on the spin (when the Premier League was actually elite) and went 2 years unbeaten in the Champions League.
That's a yikes from me

>Ronaldo didn't win a CL therefore he's not one of the greatest players of all time

No, you couldn't make a case you fucking retard. Imagine comparing peak Evra to Andy Robertson. Utter delusion.

You can make no case for Allison or Robertson, literally none.. Van Dijk would get on the bench though.

He's not though, you can't be considered one of the GOATs if you're always injured.

>He's not though
State of United men.

>You can make no case for Robertson
apart from the fact he contributes much more to the attack and is part of a better defence

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I'd rather take a 8/10 player who's always available than a 10/10 player who's always out injured. Maybe in an alternate reality where he isn't made of glass sure but we're not living in it.

>I'd rather have not-Ronaldo than Ronaldo in my team
Fucking hell. You can tell you're not old enough to have seen him play.

You mean like Gibraltar and my little sawker shitters?

The clubs that had Ronaldo won fuck all with him, I'm not denying his ability but he's always injured so he can't be considered GOAT.

>I'm not denying his ability
>he can't be considered GOAT
delete your life

There's more to it than just being good at football, if we're going by talent alone than Ronaldinho is the undisputed GOAT.

delete your entire life

It's not van Dijks fault that he has to compete in an era that has the greatest premier league side of all time.

Liverpool supporter but enough with these shit threads, Rio won it all

*checks Rio's WC Trophy cabinet*

>greatest side of all time
>one league title with poor competition and fuck all success in Europe

Calm your tits m8

when did he win the Balon D'or?

>comparing seasons that are a decade apart, different tactics etc etc

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Get killed at your local mosque.

This current City side would utterly humiliate any United side from any year.

both overrated

This current city side can't even make a CL final. Utd did it 3 times in 4 years when the standard was higher

I'd still take this Liverpool all-time PL XI over any United PL XI. Fight me

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Ferdinand: 9 trophies

Van Dijk: 0 trophies

simple as

Did a yank just put Glen Johnson in Liverpool's all time XI? Why do they continue to post?

PL*. I even wrote it twice but you still missed it.
It's only from what I've watched.

>this reading comprehension
Sad!

That's literally what this thread is about you fucking mong.

>all these zoomers that think current players compare at all to the generation of players 10 years ago
>this fucking retard thinks that is the best liverpool 11 ever
The state of this board

Yeah. I'd rather have James Milner there than Glen Johnson for fuck sake.

Doesn't make it less retarded tho

>Djibril Cisse is better than Ronaldo because he won the CL

>when the standard was higher

I've seen this about 5 times in this thread already it's a pathetic cop out and a MYTH. Fuck off you dumb boomer United cocksucker

So you started watching in 2016 and watched a few highlight videos then. Why even give your dogshit opinion you retard?

Absolute fucking state of this board. These lot needs to stick to talking about black dick and /pol/shite

>Djimi Traore is better than Cannavaro because Djimi won the CL

I'd even put Trent there over Glen Johnson and he hasn't even had 2 full seasons. Glen Johnson is probably the worst Liverpool RB of the PL era

Funny that you're focusing so much on the CL part of his post and ignoring the rest of it to fit some autistic narrative. You can close Wikipedia now kiddo

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>needing wikipedia to know the winners of possibly the most famous CL final of all time
>needing wikipedia to know who Ronaldo and Cannavaro are
Holy fuck. Leafs are such an embarrassment.

Salah in the last 2 years was really good

It's true. Chelsea of that era were better than Man City too. This will only be a question if City win the PL and CL this season

They got 100 points while the top 6 are as strong as they've ever been. This isn't an argument

>the top 6 last season were as strong as they've ever been
I want you to know I'm laughing at you. If Liverpool weren't playing in the league this year, City would be 13 points clear of second place.

>being a mong that can't argue to save his life so he ignores half of what someone says to stand a chance of not looking retarded

I don't see your point. I agree that Man City are very good

>Johnson

If you think TAA is too green at least put Finnan there.

>2 monstrously great teams ahead 4 great teams

Why does this mean the league is shit?

This is the worst Chelsea team in 10 years, the worst Arsenal team in 15 years and a pretty poor Man Utd team only topped by the Mouyes and Van Laal teams

>the top 6 are as strong as they've ever been
>63 points in "second place" in April

It doesn't. It means the top 6 are certainly not as strong as they've ever been.

>This current City side would utterly humiliate any United side from any year.
You actually agree with this trash opinion? Laughable.

Your logic is chronically retarded
6 teams still in Europe btw, unless your gonna tell me European football has completely declined too

In Fergusons prime there wasn't even a top six. City and Tottenham were shit and Liverpool massively fluctuated between good and shit

Yes, it absolutely has. You're utterly deranged if you believe this Arsenal team is as strong as the Invincibles. Utterly deranged if you believe this Chelsea is as strong as 04/05. Utterly deranged if you believe this United is as strong as 08/09.

>ajax
>porto
>united
>worst barcelona in years
>spurs

>I rank van dyke

>I rate van dijk

What's yours?

I didn't think he was so bad especially going forward. He just played during some lean years. In 2013-14 he was pretty underrated. You could put Finnan or Babbel there but I'm just going from what I've seen.

Trent will be there in another year or so if he keeps it up.

I would ask you to politely debate this, but I can tell you have little to zero fucking clue of what I just posted and you're just latching on to the mindless ABL opinions in this thread because they're louder about it. Piss off

Putting Glen Johnson anywhere near a Liverpool top XI is an ABL opinion in and of itself.

No one said any of those things you utter moron. These Liverpool and City sides are the only ones that can be compared to teams like that AND FAIRLY. The others can be compared to the ones in comparable positions in history, not the best teams of each era you fucking mong.

Left is maybe a top 50 CB
Right is a top 50 boxer

Glen would also look better with a better team around him.

>and fairly
Liverpool hasn't won anything though

I know he was somewhat suspect defensively but you guys are acting like he's Konchesky-tier just because they played at the same time. I don't. Didn't he play and start for England back then too?

And the most pathetic, useless post in the thread has arrived.

The Invincibles and Chelsea's record season and Istanbul were all literally in the same era. Pipe down.

Wow great argument there friend. Definitely changed my mind about Liverpool comparing to some of the best teams ever without winning a single thing.

>Sinama-Pongolle is inherently better than Bergkamp because Sinama-Pongolle won the Cl and Bergkamp didnt

>still going on about the CL as if there is nothing else a team can win
>having an argument with an imaginary person
You really are a brainlet. Kill yourself

>how can I prove I haven't been utterly BTFO
>I've got it!
>REEEEEEE KYS KYS KYS
lmao leafs are so embarrassing

think how few goals a vidic-vvd partnership would concede lads

think how few aerial duels they'd lose

Genuinely curious if a Prime Torres could undo VvD the way he always did with Vidic. It was fucking bizarre to watch one of the most disciplined, strong and talented defenders I've ever seen just come apart at the seams every time Torres so much as looked in his direction. It was like a fucking curse.

wtf, it was like twice. dude made like 200apps in the league and still a couple of off games is held against him

They're not "held against him". But there's a reason they're so notable as to be remembered 10 years later. Torres' tormening of him was an utter anamoly in Vidic's otherwise near-flawless form.

t. SAND NIGGER

>You could make a case for Alisson

jesus fucking christ

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tbf torres ran past everyone in his prime

But not everyone was as inpenetrable as Vidic. That's what made it so notable.

Guess it's a 'styles make fights' type thing. Like Kevin Pietersen spanking the best bowlers around then getting out to left arm filth

Not rating Rooney is peak zoomer, and I say this as someone who hated United at that time. There's a reason he was able to bend the club over a barrel in his contract negotiations.

In 2011-12, probably the last year of his peak, Rooney's partner up front was Welbeck, his wingers were Valencia and Young, the right back was Phil Jones and Scholes had to come out of retirement because their midfield was so bad. Rooney carried them to the point that they finished level on points with City. The team of the year that season had four City players, but Rooney was the only United player.

Hummels and Boateng are absolute superior against these two shiters.

It'll be funny when theres multiple ACL injuries in the team

He's right you mouthbreathing invertebrate

Maybe five years ago they were better, not even comparable today.