/nfl/ general - Meachem Stole The Ball edition

No
He was fed to the Redskins sacrificial QB pyre to appease Snyder

silence non-believer.

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depends on the draft

He'll never play again, if he does he'll be old man tier. He fought off the infections he had fron what I read. NFL will give him a cush analyst job or he'll be a qb coach. Might even get a few nice contracts as a 2nd string qb more for helping qb1 game plan than actually playing.

>puts 10 men in the box

usually it goes like
starts off doing some dumb shit
then starts hanging out with dumb shits
then does even dumber shit
gets suspended
comes back gets hurt

Over, I'd guess 34, but I could see 38 if he has some crappy defenses to stunt on.

He didn't even hit 30 this season dumbass

depends if he gets a good wideout
Jules and Gronk were his only good weapons and Tom knows that (see Super Bowl LIII)

JFFM Mock Draft 3.0

1. Arizona Cardinals - Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
2. San Fransisco 49ers - D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss
3. New York Jets - Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State
4. Oakland Raiders - Joshua Allen, DE, Kentucky
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama
6. New York Giants - Will Grier, QB, West Virginia
7. Jacksonvilla Jaguars - T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa
8. Detroit Lions - Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson
9. Buffalo Bills - Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State
10. Carolina Panthers (via Denver) - Jachai Polite, DE, Florida
11. Cincinnati Bengals - Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama
12. Green Bay Packers - Devin White, LB, LSU
13. Miami Dolphins - Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
14. Atlanta Falcons - DeAndre Baker, CB, Georgia
15. Washington Redskins - Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State
16. Denver Broncos (via Carolina) - Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
17. New York Giants - Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma
18. Minnesota Vikings - Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas State
19. Tennessee Titans - Kelvin Harmon, WR, NC State
20. Pittsburgh Steelers - Brian Burns, DE, Florida State
21. Seattle Seahawks - Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware
22. Kansas City Chiefs (via Baltimore) - Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia
23. Houston Texans - Byron Murphy, CB, Washington
24. Oakland Raiders - Montez Sweat, DE, Mississippi State
25. Philadelphia Eagles - Devin Singletary, RB, Florida Atlantic
26. Indianapolis Colts - Noah Fant, TE, Iowa
27. Oakland Raiders - Damien Harris, RB, Alabama
28. LA Chargers - Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma
29. Baltimore Ravens (via Kansas City) - Erik McCoy, C, Texas A&M
30. Oakland Raiders (via Green Bay) - Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame
31. LA Rams - Yodny Cajuste, OT, West Virginia
32. New England Patriots - Irv Smith Jr, TE, Alabama

>Trades
Carolina sends 16 and 47 to Denver for 10 overall
Kansas City sends 29 and 63 to Baltimore for 21 overall
Oakland sends 35 and 107 to Green Bay for 30 overall

I always knew you were going for (you)s above all else but this pic praising this horrible form proves it.

I thought we were talking about next season, dumbass.

He's going to be worse next season

He's going to be better next year.

Would love to nab Devin White. Seems like the kind of guy that can lynchpin a defense for 12 years.

People forget
1. He's only 34
2. He's worth 55 million now but in 4 years he'll be worth 160 million
3. until 2020 cutting him will leave them with so much dead money it's insane

So the redskins will wait until next year, these kinds of breaks can take 18 months to heal but that's on a normal person not an athlete with the most advanced medical science around them

50/50 shot he's back in 2019, I'd be really really surprised if he's not back in 2020. Unless someone gets hot in washington he'll be a starter but seeing his past history someone will get hot

>Washington Redskins - Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State.

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His performances in the playoffs would suggest otherwise. Players beyond the age of 40 rarely get better

people forget theisman was actually healthy enough to come back and tried to, but was bad so no one signed him.

No other player has won as many games as him. You say rarely but he's been a rarity for several years now.

Yea man GB has added a lot of pieces to their defence with Preston Smith, Za'Darius Smith and Adrian Amos but they still need help at ILB. Think Devin White has a ton of potential and could have a Roquan Smith type impact year one under Mike Pettine

Colt McCoy was trash last year in his 2 or 3 starts. Case is a good mentor/placeholder but Haskins has a ton of potential. I don't love him but they don't have a lot of other holes in their roster so if he falls to them at 15 I think they'd take a chance on him

this is my favorite mock draft. I fucking love it. It's so bad.

Man.. this is just bad. I'm sorry. You're better than this

>won games
We are taking about his individual play

I would rather take Drew Lock or any other quarterback than dwayne "do not ask me to throw further than the line of scrimmage" haskins.

Ideal scenario would be to take the best player available and tank for an actual good quarterback next year.

m8, your entire country has been banned from posting here for days, and after all this time this is the best you could come up with

>Drew Lock
But don't you need to be accurate to be an NFL QB?

>winning isn't a part of the game
And individually the team he plays on has won more games than anyone else's team since he became the starter.

then why was the tripfag suggesting dwayne haskins?

ask haskins to throw further than five yards and it is a gamble where the ball will end up.

lol you are still bootyblasted that brady won another owl.

admit you were wrong.

And he played like shit against the Chiefs and Rams but still won, and besides, we were talking about how many touchdowns he would throw

We'll see how many I get right come draft day

I think he'd be a great fit in the Redskins offence in all honesty. They can stock up on a couple more skill position players in the mid rounds then fill out their O line and LB corps with some late round developmental guys

I was high on the Redskins last year and they were 6-3 before Alex Smith went down. With Guice and half the O line coming back from IR I feel like they're a QB away from a playoff run. Don't know if Haskins is that guy but they cannot go into 2019 with Case and Colt as their 1/2 on the depth chart

You're right. I said 34-38.

admit you were wrong.

And now I want you to be realistic

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coming from, "pats are going 6-10," man.

I think he'll perform well but it won't be anything near record breaking. Something like 34-38. Probably around 4600 yards.

Think about this. Tom Brady in the prime of his career with superior weapons that he has now has only hit 38TDs twice. You're telling me that a 42 year old Brady with some of the worse weapons of his career can someone hit that number again, despite not getting there since 2011? That's realistic to you?

depends on the draft and after free agency. It's Belichick, you won't know the make up of the team or even close until after the draft really

probably 30

I just want the Redskins to have a quarterback who does good for more than one season. They have not had that since thiesman.

cousins is a stat-padder and bruce allen not paying him is the only good thing he ever did.

Accuracy can be taught. The important part is his intangibles, you can't learn them and you need them to succeed. Lock will be fine in the NFL

>Accuracy can be taught
No it can't. Literally your college completion %, usually the comp % in your last year, is your ceiling for comp % in the NFL. The lone exception in the past 30 years is Matt Ryan.

>Brady makes several great throws and leads the team downfield where they run the ball in at the goal line

"Brady didn't throw a touchdown, he sucks"

that's some (((max kellerman))) tier analysis you got their guy

remember when you said the patriots were going to go 6-10 but that did not happen, or when you said the chargers were going to beat them but that did not happen, or when you said the chiefs were going beat them but that did not happen, or when you said the rams were going to beat them but that did not happen?

You're right. Throwing touchdowns is now a bad thing. Tom Brady getting picked off in the end one instead of throwing to Gronk was actually a great play, and a sign that Brady just didn't want to statpad

So you disagree with my analysis? You do think it's realistic to hit 38 after everything I said?

No. If a guy has a bad completion rating in college 99% of the time he's going to have the same problem in the pros

yes there are like 2 or 3 outliers in the history of the game.

well you were already wrong about everything you said already, so yeah.

I admire kiwi bro. I wish that my half assed bait got guaranteed replies like his do. I just dont have the touch that I used to I suppose

So you think it makes sense that a player who statistically has been declining over the past 3 seasons will take a massive statistical step forward despite having worse talent around him?

Any Giantsbros want to debate whether Ereck Flowers was a bigger draft bust than Rocky Thompson?

I know most people virtue to Thompson as the Giants' biggest bust ever because of how shit they were in the 1970s, but there's a great case to be made that Flowers played a huge role in destroying the final years of Eli's prime.

Eli never had a prime though. He's a shit QB.

I actually like the dude. I can have full fledged conversation with him saying nothing dumb shit and he'll keep going. It's fun.

why do you care so much about the amount of td's someone throws? brady consistently leads his team down within the five, why should he throw it when running it in is a safer and more reliable? is kirk cousins your favorite player?

admit you were wrong.

zoomers everybody

Yup Bruce Allen deserves a lot of flak but the amount of shit he got for letting Cousins walk was ridiculous. Worst part is nobody in the media who slammed them will ever admit they were wrong when he flames out of Minnesota

Again It's not a great QB draft. I like my two guys McSorley and Grier but Haskins and Murray do have potential. Will be interesting to see where they all end up

>be talentless scrub
>have great coaching, special teams and defense your entire career

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Because that's the question I'm asking

I will tell you after he makes it to another super bowl.

this place really goes down the toilet in the off-season

That's not happening ever again

Every post he makes is a bait shitpost. Thats a compliment not an insult

that's retarded. It's Cedric Jones

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_NFL_Draft

Top 5 pick literally did nothing for years. Before the 90's the drafts were way different and everything was diluted and a guessing game

On my general there is probkem

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people been saying this since 2011 yet he still keeps proving people wrong, like when you were wrong about him throughout the entirety of last season.

admit you were wrong.

>Lawrence Phillips taken right after
heh

you have autism

I don't care what his motives are, he entertains me.

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Top QBs for 2019 PROJECTIONS
1. BREES
2. MAYFIELD
3A. CARR
3B. RODGERS
4. MAHOMES
5. RIVERS
6. WENTZ
7. WILSON
8. JACKSON
9. DARNOLD
10. ROETHLISBERGER

>no flacco

>implying based Flacco isn't going to go full Peyton Manning and lead the Broncos to the owl

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he some hits give the guy a break

I predict Flacco will have a forgettable, yet average season, enough to get another contract in Denver but not enough to warrant him a good pick up, he'll retire with them

>Carr that high
>Brees that high after those last few games
>Wilson that low
>Lameme at all
>3A/3B

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Now this is bait

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ACTUAL TOP 2019 QB PROJECTIONS:
1. Rodgers
2. Brees
3. Mahomes
4. Brady
5. Wilson
6. Rivers
7. Garoppolo
8. Mayfield
9. Foles
10. Winston

>no flacco

>no flacco

switch Winston with Carr
and make Rivers #1

trip on old gay

You didnt even get pick #1 right! Lol
So bad....

Cedric Jones at least is able to say he was on the Super Bowl XXXV team.

Flowers was entrusted with protecting a future Hall of Fame QB and was Tony Mandarich levels of awful at it.

Objective 10 Qbs of 2019
1. Brees
2. Mahommes
3. Brady
4. Wilson
5. Flacco
6. Rivers
7. Luck
8. Goff
9. Ryan
10. Big ben

Fuck Aaron Rodgers

Stafford will have a huge comeback this year.

>garoppolo
dead by week 8

Top 10 numbers

10. 8
9. 14
8. 7
7. 5
6. 11
5. 13
4. 2
3. 9
2. 12
1. 16

Stop. Being a nannerfag is hard enough without the bullying.

>8 that high
>7 above 5

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those are objectively 10 qbs of 2019

>5 fags being assblasted yet again

>all these top 10s without the next GOAT

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thanks for the 2nd rounder

no
not again

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TRUE ACTUAL 2019 QB PROJECTIONS
1. FLACCO
2. FLACCO
3. FLACCO
4. FLACCO
5A FLACCO
5B FLACCO
6. FLACCO
7. FLACCO
8. CARR
9. FLACCO
10. FLACCO
32. FLACCO
41. FLACCO
3000000. FLACCO
3000001. FLACCO
99999999999. EVRYONE ELSE

1. Mahomes
2. Wilson
3. Rivers
4. Brady
5. Rodgers
6. Ryan
7. Luck
8. Brees
9. Mayfield
10. Flacco

;_;

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what a shame, he was talented
he was elite in the fourth quarter against the falcons
glad he got a ring at least

who is this and what is happening

malcolm mitchell retiring

WR drafted by the Patriots 4 years ago who won SB vs Falcons and is now retiring because his knees can't take any more punishment after 10x knee surgeries.

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>Antonio Brown exiled himself to Oakland
>he's about to find out what happens when he doesn't have a top 10 QB to carry his ass

I can't wait for the locker room drama. Cleveland and Baltimore are going to cream Big Ben's butthole too. Next season's going to be great.

a solid 1,800 yard passing season

AB has been carrying Ben these past few years

thats not joe flacco

Only before painkillers are applied at halftime. Then it's the other way around.

For me, it's THE Philadelphia Football Eagles, Philadelphia Baseball Phillies, Philadelphia Basketball 76ers, Philadelphia Hockey Flyers, Philadelphia Soccer Union and Philadelphia Lacrosse Wings.

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who will stop this mad man. You got some balls having your code be Foles based and him not even being on your team

Ignore him, he's a roach tripfag.

Let’s think back to the dumbest pre-season predictions we heard
>Vikings are Super bowl contenders

PFF just released their 2019 draft guide for their subscribers, which is like 700 pages worth of stats for draft declared college players
There's also their QB annual, which is like 350 pages of statistics for 2018 quarterbacks

mega.nz/#F!omgSVa5B!142KtCui5YFeBMzykY_XjA

enjoy

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Raiders!

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beeg yosh

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fuck the jets and their faggot "fans"

>overpaying a fat rb who took a year off
>overpaying an off the ball linebacker
>completing whiffing on the center and edge positions
>Keeping their failure of a gm after 4 miserable seasons

based

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Iggles

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>not ranking one number the same as its value
>half the numbers are prime numbers

Underrated post. Thank you

*wins the AFC South in your path*

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Friendly reminder Josh Rosen was sacked 17 times in under 2.5 seconds despite playing in only 14 games as a rookie

Anyone who unironically believes the Cardinals are going Kyler Murray at No.1 are either gullible as fuck or incapable of evaluating players on bad teams. The Cards need to fix their O line and add playmakers on offence if they want to compete not draft creme de la meme

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This. Everyone shits on Rosen because the numbers were bad and it's fun to meme, but there's no way to know if he's a bust yet, and no reason to give up on him.

>it's been 5 years and the Ravens STILL have not recovered from this play

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I'm sure Carson Wentz will ditch the injury bug and prove the players don't think of him as an entitled cuck compared to big dick Nick.

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Whatever happened to Kellen Moore. He was pretty good in college.

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OBSESSED

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>he only has a ring because his backup won
>proceeded to having a losing record in the follow-up season, only to go out on injury again

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the cardinals have made it pretty obvious at this point that they're taking Murray

theres way too much smoke not to be fire.

Getting the QB right is more important than anything else in the NFL.

Think we have lmao

Sucks we've only played one time since this game though. Ravens-Patriots games were 10/10 from 09-14

I thought you were banned pedo.

So why did they draft an entitled Jew and want to now draft a chromosomal retard?

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No, that was OldGay for posting homosexual CP.

Shut up pedo.

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because they need a qb at the time they drafted rosen

and didn't know they would have a chance at a better prospect.

Shut up pedo

>and didn't know they would have a chance at a better prospect.
Jamies Winston was a great prospect.

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Yeah but he has STRONG MIND

and?

Also, 6 rings.

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Pedo

Doug Hagmann?

You clearly fall into the gullible category

Kys pedo

I could be wrong, but following the breadcrumbs is right more often than not.

Wasnt me gay boy

>won 2 owls
>no prime

Okay retard

Mexican league games in 2 and a half hours

Why didnt this faggot got bagged during the Christchurch shooting? Such a shame

I want to kidnap your mom, cut her throat open jihad-style, and throatfuck her gushing trachea while Tom Brady 2018 highlight is playing

/Bills Owl 2020/

He's a coach for the Cowboys I think. He just didn't have an NFL arm, shame but what are you going to do.

i need the sauce for this webm it makes me laugh every time

Truly based and redpilled. Also, Ryan Finley is what everyone wants Drew Lock to be. And he won't be good either.

>spygate
>deflategate
>spagate
>constantly lying on injury reports
>constantly running illegal pick plays
>PED user central

Is it time the NFL steps in and invalidates all the Patriots Championships?

they could be building leverage for a trade down to 4 or 6

>spygate
Wasn't actually cheating
>deflategate
Fake news
>spagate
Nothing to do with football
>constantly lying on injury reports
Source?
>constantly running illegal pick plays
Source?
>PED user central
All teams have players that use PEDs
The NFL should invalidate the Ravens championships because Ray Lewis murdered a guy.

>I-I-It wasn't cheating! The shield didn't step in and literally burn the evidence because it showed the Pats were cheating, th-they did it for some other reason!

He was an absolutely shitty backup Qb turned even shittier QB coach (an opportunity he never should've received). And now jerruh caught the mcvay bug and promoted him to offensive coordinator

Mia Malkova and some British milf bimbo. The bimbo is the 'mom' and showing Mia how to suck a cock. Sometimes actors break character.

>ray lewis' white suit

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How's this fag not banned for spamming

Tits or GTFO.

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Only just saw this. Cheers man really didn't want to pay for it

thanks user

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>compensatory picks secret formula
>schedule being strong and weak don't line up. some shitty teams have hard schedules vice versa
>suspensions that don't equal each other
>plays where a 3rd party wearing ear phones changes the game are not reviewable
>"random" drug test

Is it time the NFL fans remember the game is fixed and just enjoy the game.

All trips should be permabanned desu (except for Scarletism).

>Everyone on the Eagles taking Warriors-style paycuts so they can keep their team together

When the fuck is the NFL going to step in? This isn't in the spirit of the salary cap.

>pff

It's not the Patriots' fault that the Dolphins are starting Fitzpatrick as QB.

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>one Owl
>1 and done in the playoffs
>fizzle, injury prone QB who can't close out games
They're literally the modern Dolphins, except Marino didn't have a great Backup to win him a ring.

The NFL should only step in if the Eagles are secretly paying these players extra under the table. Developing a selfless locker room is one of the keys to building a dynasty.

The Rumor going around is the Giants are going to trade for Rosen using the 17th and something else. What is known for sure is the Giants were thinking about taking Rosen number 2 over all.

I'd say they Trade Rosen for the 17th and probably a second. Then go Murray.

You aren't getting a 1st for Rosen. Dude sucks. Be happy if someone gives you a 2nd, settle for a 3rd. If nobody will offer that, just hold on to him until inevitable injuries mid season.

Considering the great player of your Franchise was a compensatory pick given by the NFL using a "super duper secret formula FOR OUR EYES ONLY"

I'd just be happy if I were you and try not to think so hard.

How does that in any way apply to the Cowboys continuing to beat that dead horse of the past 3 years?

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It's the rumor I read a couple days ago. Rosen to me is damaged goods with all the concussions, his build and general attitude. The powers that be won't allow someone like him to be great and physically he's got maybe 3 years left at this pace. I'd trade him for a 2 2nds and call it, then I'd trade back and build up an O line.

What? I'm not trolling I don't get what you were saying. I was pointing out Tom Brady was compensatory pick.

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Literally what?

>Cam Newton is going no sex for the whole year
*GULP* 2015 MVP Cam is back Im scared guys

>replying to old gay

You act like it's a conspiracy, yet it in no way applies to the fact that Mark Davis allowed the TV guy to sell off the entire team because Gruden won a Super Bowl with Dungy's team.

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No, no he's not.

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(((small))) (((white))) (((penis)))

What does that have to do with the NFL handing out extra picks to certain teams and literally claims they can't show the formula for it because it's secret?

>no sex for a year
oh my god how difficult... could you guys even imagine?

Because it doesn't matter.

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Awesome a rumour 5 weeks out from the draft

I'll be sure to take this very seriously

Nothing better than hitting the bar with your friends on draft night.

Ogies in Rhode Island is GOAT-tier.

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you are retarded
I'm not that guy but the comp pick system is utterly broken

What fucking loser team right now is supposedly getting shafted to cause this backlash? Because I guarantee we could give them 4 first round picks and they wouldn't make the playoffs.

You realize that without the rigged compensatory system, the patriots wouldn't have gotten Brady right?

that's the whole point.

So, 18 years later, the system is rigged because a middling team drafted a no-name QB in the sixth round?

SEETHING.

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I told you to shut up and enjoy the game. But it's rigged.

Listen you know how most movies will end but you still enjoy them. It's not that hard to do. Just don't think all the teams play on a level playing field.

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...... So what you are saying is the 32 extra draft picks given out every year to teams don't matter?

I gotta agree with the faggot patriot on this one. The system isn't necessarily broken just because because the league overlooked the GOAT.

Wait your point is teams are getting extra draft picks because the NFL chooses to give the out and that has no effect on the game.

Okay...

They do matter, the rest of the league is just too retarded to try and get comp picks

>draft picks are worthless
>who cares if a team gets 7 or 10
>patriots fans

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>The system isn't necessarily broken just because because the league fixed, cheated and coddled the FRAUD.
Fixed. But he sure did earn that choke, lol 18-1

its not that bad. theyre mostly consistent and its low round picks so the difference isnt much

are you dumb?

the real problem is retard GMs giving ex-pats players massive contracts

The bucs screwed themselves out of a 3rd round comp pick because they re signed their punter. Most team front offices are dumb as hell

I know you are just trolling but the other guy has a point. It's kind of fucked up teams like the Patriots always get a shit ton of compensatory picks and the NFL refuses to give details as why.

See the thing is because the "super secret" compensatory formula has never been shown, you can't say that. You don't know, it's purposely being hidden by the those who give out the picks.

The Patriots always get a shit ton of comp picks because they let guys walk in free agency all the time and don't blow the bank replacing them

Almost everyone knows how the comp pick formula works lmao there's fan sites that have been tracking it with like 95% efficiency for years

Only thing that isn't known is the exact cut off each year for what contracts count for which rounds. There's always a few that are borderline between rounds

If you think people haven't worked out what the basic formula for comp picks is by now you're retarded and I don't think I can do anything to help you
Letting flowers go get overpaid somewhere else and signing Bennett for chump change to keep their comp pick is a classic patriots move

Cam was playing better than his MVP season last year before T.J. Watt targeted him and took out his shoulder.

Even with no deep ball Cam's completion percentage still blew away his previous career-high. Hell, even with his bum shoulder the Panthers still would have made the playoffs had their defense not gotten old and shitty.

What position player is the best to change the culture in the locker room?
>pic unrelated, or related because of the spelling of the word "elite"

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For that, position doesn't matter much.

Who took a pay cut?

P12 and the eagles turkbro aren't bad, but other than that you're right.

What the hell, Browns?

dawgpounddaily.com/2019/03/23/qb-draft-prospect-makes-sense-cleveland-browns/amp/

they only have 2 qbs they're probably looking for a practice squad arm

Lock would be a good fit on the Browns, I would even be okay with him starting over Mayfield.

games already started

He will get his revenge and slay the cheatriots

I wanted him for >my Broncos desu.

I respect him. Down to earth guy, shows up and puts up honest hours of work.

He's lucky he still has both legs

Dead general

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Lamar Jackson averages 75.1 yards per game

>The Denver Broncos suggested an alternative to onside kicks. ESPN reported that this would mean instead of a team kicking off following a score, it would have one opportunity per game to remain on offense after a fourth-quarter score. The team would line up at its 35-yard line for a fourth-and-15 play instead of kicking the ball. If the team gains the 15 yards, it would maintain possession. If not, the defense takes over.

thoughts? Certainly better than how it is now, seeing how it is basically impossible to recover unless the receiving team messes up.

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>it's another brady's nigger shits up the general with his shitty webms/images episode

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More importantly he averages 7 wins for every 9 games played.

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well I mean, averaging 75.1 rushing yards is not that bad for a runningback.

Upvoted for McNutty

Yeah I'm sure this inaccurate dual threat qb will sustain his success like all the others did

nfl should be make it take it rules. if you score a touchdown you start another drive on your 25 yard line

>QB wins

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>inaccurate

You've never actually have seen him play have you?

I have, he's not a good passer and unlikely to get better

‘ate indianapolis
‘ate new yock
‘ate miami
‘ate bufflo
‘ate pittsbug
‘ate loss angeles
‘ate dallas
‘ate niggers
‘ate spics
‘ate mooselums
‘ate chinks
‘ate injuns
‘ate yurop
‘ate astralia
‘ate vince
‘ate xfl
‘ate the aaf
‘ate the nfc
love me football
love me pats
love america
simple as

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lmao what kind of new brand of cope is this? anyone who watches even 1 of lagroids throws knows for a fact that he has a much control over the ball when he throws as a 3 year old

@@91665357
worst post ITT

>players dont improve

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y’know, for a major sports league, it is absolutely incredible that 20 teams have won the Super Bowl after only 53 years. That kind of parity is unheard of. For comparison, 23 teams have won the World Series after 114 years.

That’s retarded

>yfw da bears win da superb owl

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Quarterback is the most overrated position in sports don't @ me.

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Too make it worse, there's a tranny janny protecting him.

(you)

Underrated*

accuracy doesn't.

>mfw da bears are fourth in the north

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You are totally correct... QB coaches dont exist after all

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The quarterback has been blown up out of proportion too much. Back when the forward pass was first legalized the QB (who still organized the offense) was a blocker. The ball was snapped to the halfback, a situational position who was either a runner, passer, or kicker.

This system is far superior to the one man show of today. It should be illegal to snap the ball to the quarterback, then the game will become way more team based.

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Find me one QB who's accuracy improved over their career

Nowadays i agree with you. 90% of qbs are system qbs thanks to tom terrific.

This guy is alot more accurate right now than he was when he was in 7th grade. Just because someone is 22 doesn’t mean they’re at their peak

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Brady was always accurate on the short and intermediate routes

his deep ball comes and goes

there are certain areas a qb can improve on, accuracy by and large does not improve.

His expected completion percentage in college wasn't too far off from his NFL career. Literally have never seen a QB with accuracy problems get his issues corrected with coaching

>YT comments section
>"you've got to hand it to the Patriots, they draft well."

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Philip rivers

Literally all of them who put in the work

Why are blacks so much better at sports than whites?

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>me and bradys sixth ring

Fast Twitch Muscle Fiber

Whites dominate every sport though.

How long did that take you to make in MS Paint?

talk about delusional

What was your reaction when you found out the Cincinnati Bengals are the whitest team in the league?

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Which is the blackest team?

i think a saints fan might have had something to do with making this graph

this kills the old bay

whites have more options whereas for most blacks it is either be good at playing a child's game or prison.

I really dont care about the Bengals at all. They are an NPC team

probably the raiders.

I want something to be done about quarterback cap space because paying a fifth of your cap to one player is dumb.

The buffalo bills. This proves that no race is better than another and that the best way is to have a mix of all races

>no 21

imagine unironically thinking this

Phil's always been relatively accurate, his decision making has improved
Nice narrative. Jackson will end up as tyrod Taylor 2.0 as a best case scenario

Elite QBs are worth it, the problem is teams overpaying for average ones

>not caring about your division rival
Plastic fan detected

>drew brees cap hit next year will be $41 million.

I think I saw something awhile ago about quarterbacks cap being separate from the team cap.

would that be a good thing or a dumb thing

Ok come on now, i hate Old Gay as much as anybody but you can hardly say the bungles and ravens are rivals. That's like saying the bills and patriots are rivals.

would be pretty dumb to me because nobody is forcing gms to pay joe flacco 120 million

dont reward stupidity

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The salary cap as a whole is just dumb, baseball proves that the team that spends the most money doesn't always win.

>rivals

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theyre gonna be rivals for the 3rd and 4th place in the divison for the next 2 decades so theres that

casual Giants fan from /nba/ here, how fucked are my New York Football Giants for the next 5 years? this trade Gettleman orchestrated looks fucking brainlet and we're sitting on like $30mil for players we don't even have anymore

agree

disagree

a lot can change in 5 years but Eli is the albatross.

They're probably not doing shit until he and gettleman are gone.

The Yankees have bought 27 championships, moneyball is a meme invented by big baseball to make small market teams think they can compete

Based racemix poster speaking truth

I'll always remember how the Yankees Forced the Orioles to give Chris Davis 161 Million Dollars

>baseball proves that the team that spends the most money doesn't always win
you're right, they just win most of the time instead

The bills trading away Tyrod was one of the dumbest football decisions of the last 5 years

well the yankees can give 3 chris davis's 160 million dollars and still compete regardless
in fact, they do it all the time
other teams don't have that luxury. they have to make actual smart decisions if they want any hope of competing against teams with 3x their budget

Yes because this situation we have where no team in the AFC has a shot at beating the pats is so much better.

Super fucked, not only will gettleman leave the Giants with little draft capital he will also put the organization into cap hell, he did the same shit in carolina

The difference is that situation exists because of the Pats' competency, not because they have some kind of inherent advantage over the competition. So yes, it quite literally is better.

it's simple, we kill the bradley

The pats win because they're smarter, getting rid of the salary cap wouldn't keep the rest of the league from making retard tier decisions
I swear bill must spend the off season rubbing his hands as he watches the rest of the league turn themselves into .500 porridge

@91668386
no u

The Orioles don't make smart decisions and neither do any other bad teams. Baseball isn't even about spending on FA's anymore and it hasn't been for a decade. It's getting cheap cost controlled young players something the Orioles have none of.

>i will defeat the patrishits

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Not until you get a white qb bud sorry.

You know up until the wheels fell off last year no American League team had more wins this decade than the Orioles. Stay mad fagit

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Place your bets now, which one of these teams will beat the gaytriots

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the lions.no joke

also the patriots are the richest AFC team anyways

>Baseball isn't even about spending on FA's anymore and it hasn't been for a decade
lol
being able to buy high priced FA in baseball is always going to give you an advantage
also
>It's getting cheap cost controlled young players
teams with higher budgets can more easily keep their young players without hamstringing themselves

imagine actually defending having no salary cap in your sport fucking mental gymnastics going on here

>football without salary cap
Greatest sport of all time
>football with salary cap
Boring cuck shit
Liking the salary cap is very reddit

Cowboys will finally beat Brady with Dak.
>inb4 hes a bad qb
Their game management is much better than it was 6 years ago. Cap if needed

>dude the salary cap is so reddit like why don't you want the same 5 teams to dominate everything like in the 70's that shit was so based man

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yeah like the raiders did with the poorest owner in the league

>brainlet wojak
Thanks for proving my point redditor

T. Cowboys fan

Series winners are usually in the upper tier for payroll
The cheap young guys are so you can afford to spend big on the fa's, just like having a QB on a rookie contract for football allows you to load up on talent

A win for Trump is a win for the Patriots

Let's celebrate lads

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your "argument" greentexting buzzwords
sorry your shitty team can compete in a fair environment and your shitty GM needs twice the cap of other teams to do anything

Are you stupid? Because the Florida Marlins won the WS once doesn't mean you don't have massive advantages with a large payroll

Why

Probably like 3 of these teams

Reminder that Peyton Manning is a Denver Broncos icon. The colts are a shit franchise and they deserve nothing.

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The ones that have massive advantages are the ones who don't make retard decisions.

Everything else is secondary.

yeah I guess that must be why the average WS winner over the past 20 years is like 5th in average payroll

cause teams like the astros weren't spending shit when they were tanking but opened it up when they got enough talent.

The Padres just spent 300 mil on Manny Machado FFS

The dads overpaid desu

Machado is the second best player in all baseball.

Lmao

hahaha no

>cause teams like the astros weren't spending shit when they were tanking but opened it up when they got enough talent.
So you readily admit you need the capability to spend a ton of money to win in baseball and that the average middle of the pack team is at a large disadvantage? Weird how that works. Almost like teams who CAN regularly spend 200 mil every single year can compete year in and year out just by basis of that alone.

If you are outside of the top 15 in payroll you have virtually no chance of winning anything. Don't respond to me again you braindead mongoloid tripshitter

Who then?

There's only 2 teams that were paying above $200 million on salaries last year, the luxury tax system acts like a salary cap in theory
What fucks it up is some of the cheap ass owners refusing to spend any money on payroll

Top 32 QBs in the NFL

1. Tom Brady
2. Drew Brees
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Russell Wilson
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Philip Rivers
7. Matt Ryan
8. Patrick Mahomes
9. Andrew Luck
10. Cam Newton
11. Carson Wentz
12. Deshaun Watson
13. Matthew Stafford
14. Alex Smith
15. Baker Mayfield
16. Dak Prescott
17. Jared Goff
18. Kirk Cousins
19. Nick Foles
20. Jimmy Garoppolo
21. Andy Dalton
22. Mitch Trubisky
23. Lamar Jackson
24. Sam Darnold
25. Derek Carr
26. Marcus Mariota
27. Tyrod Taylor
28. Jameis Winston
29. Josh Allen
30. Josh Rosen
31. Eli Manning
32. Josh McCown

Where is Flacco?

The Astros were never at a huge disadvantage because of their payroll because they built the core of their team without it.

Owners are cheap and don't spend when their team is ass. Just like how the tigers were top 10 in payroll for their run and now they're in the bottom 10.

Trout and Betts were the 2 best players in mlb last year
Machimpo is probably top 15

>Matt Ryan over Kermit and the autistic neckbeard
Failcoons fan detected you are fucking hallucinating buddy.

36

>switch Mahomes and big ben
>move Stafford to 23
Then your list is perfect

>betts

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He will tear his acl in the preseason

>AL MVP
>Not one of the best players in the game
I'm done responding

Mahomes is one thing because we've only seen him play one year but what has Luck done that would put him above Matt Ryan

Hes not better than Machado though. Betts is probably top 15.

Machado is a thug and a disgrace to the game

Guys I really want to have sex right now

this clearly is taking experience into account, so drew brees should be at 3

Need to see more of Mahomes

Don't do it Cam, you need to focus on football.

Current Ryan>current Rodgers

BUT DICK IN PUSY FEELS SO GOOD

Had them virtually tied going into last season but this season put him ahead

Not going to dispute that, but he is a generational talent.

yikes
they shouldnt have been tied last season, and rodgers had it way harder this year

second game of the day mexican burrs playing

Hey what do youse think about CJ Anderson not catching a second contract? General is slow and I'd just like to hear a few opinions on a guy that had production left

You're right. Now we have 1 team that dominates all.

Most of his success probably had more to do with having fresh legs against end of season teams with a good line. He's probably better signed in November again next season for a playoff bound team as a fresh battering ram over carrying him for the rest of the season.

Nobody cares. We would all rather watch the CFL than your stupid beaner garbage.

There's no point in being so rude. If you don't like it then don't watch it. I'm interested in football and appreciate the effort of the mexibro promoting these threads.

Minority ass or MILF tits?

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Why not both?

>12 picks
JESUS CHRIST

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GOODBYE GRONK

which draft site are you using?

Also, that board is terrible because most of those picks are simply not happening.

now that the dust has settled, what was your favorite Rob Gronkowski injury?

fanspeak

they have a bunch of different draft boards that you can choose, I use whichever is the most recent

Still want to take the over on Brady 28.5 TDs passes?

GRONK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

absolutely

1600yds passing, 1000yds rushing 11tds and 24 ints

The GOAT tight end is gone now boys

holy fuck my dude kys for that abortion of a url

reddit bay btfo

Gronk retires

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seething.

I think I disagree a bit on the basis that he was first string guy. Not that he would be now, but Gore is still getting primetime spots. How is anderson getting ignored

>Gronk retires

Brady is fucking finished.

Oh fugg it's real

he's about has valuable as your average 3rd round RB but 4x more expensive

post your favorite gronk moment

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Godspeed Gronk
No matter what team you're rooting for, it's time to pay tribute to a legendary player of the NFL. What an amazing TE.

But why? He's still elite

I know lad, that's why I deleted the fucking mess. Sorry. Phoneposting...you know.

Goodbye Gronk, the only patriot I respected besides Haynes

>half the roster on rookie contracts
>Brady taking pay cuts every year
They CAN'T keep getting away with it

He is probably in a lot of pain. Dude took some hits for the team

His body, back especially, is completely fucked. It's probably better he retires now so he doesn't end up in a wheelchair by age forty.

I hated his mongoloid attitude, but I just made a Hunchback to drink and will raise my glass to Gronk because he was a great player.

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His body said enough. He's taking the right decision.

RIP the absolute meme man

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over/under on Gronk putting a shotgun to his chest: 3 years

place your bets

I hope it's 3 more days tbqhfamalam

>gronk retires
tim brody is finished

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I dont think he has enough brain cells to operate a blunderbus.

So he's like your fake Old Bay ass?

dirty tackles the NFL didnt try nearly hard enough to eliminate

>He is probably in a lot of pain.
Feels

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wtf is a "hunchback"

Do the Patriots trade for a vet TE now?

Who can they get for cheap? BB likes a guy who can block, Maxx Williams?

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Unironically this.

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Give ya Lee "elite blocker" Smith for a 3rd and 5th

A mixture of bourbon, ketchup and BBQ sauce but I usuakly dont mix it in because its too sweet.

Been injured every other season since college. He finally gave in. And it's a good decision

Good riddance

On the brightside of Gronks retirement, Pats get $10 Million extra capspace.

>maxx williams
>block

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>expecting Tannehill to throw 70+ yards bomb
i still think Belichick is a god but wtf was he thinking here?

We’re literally witnessing the end of the patriots bros

Pats drafted TE Ryan Izzo last year who can block and catch, sloppy route runner and not athletic though. He's like a beefier/slower poor mans TJ Hockenson.

>Bill Bellichick has elected to retire as well, per source

Isn't that all he can do?

Why couldn't it come three superbowls ago wtf

with Gronk out of the way, I think it's safe to say we are about to enter the Zach Ertz era

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That is literally what everyone said last season too. Remember. Brady has won more superbowls without Gronk on the field than with him.

So Jared Cook's a Saint right? Or is Bellichick gonna pull a fast one?

Literally who?

Did you mean Ertz and Goedert?

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>All the remaining top TEs are just big WRs who can't block or handle physicality from LBs.

Now that hes retired, how many 10/10 thots is Gronk going to deepfuck each year with his BWC?

still the last player to catch a TD pass in owl history

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He was a shit blocker. The Ravens used Nick Boyle, which is no surprise since he is the best blocking TE in football and Mark Andrews over Williams. Even haden hurst when he came back from his broken ankle was used more.

>block mack
>forget about the other guys
>very small gain if not a TFL
hmm

What would you rather have Yea Forums

A somewhat truncated career in which you were one of the absolute best of all time

Or

A multi-decade career where you were just kinda "there", dependable but not really superb.

He's settling down with his gf to make Gronk babies for Brady to throw to in 20 years

I'm gonna miss this beautiful bastard.

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Based

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top because wins

enjoying the Mueller Report?

>*unzips your dick*

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The best blocking TEs were Gronk and Allen, stop this bullshit nonsense people claiming Boyle or Gates were the top blockers. Allen and Gronk were bigger than every other TE in the league and they had Scar as an O-Line coach.

Obviously the first one, assuming you make the same amount of money.

yeah Gronk was still an elite blocker

what slipped a bit was his receiving skills but he still was good.

There's a webm of this, it's pretty impressive

He'll probably do something like trade for Kyle Rudolph and squeeze a career year out of him.

Pats are drafting one of the Iowa tight ends
Also gronk for mnf

I kept saying this in December of last year but retarded-ass Panthers fans didn't want to listen to me and just wanted to shit on our coaches for "not using him".

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Me @ Gronk rn

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Boyle is 6ft 5 and 280lbs and Scar isnt even the best OL coach. Fuck outta here bitch

Oh yeah watch faggot

@

Post gronkings to remember

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Nah cam is shit my dude will always be shit

>Gronk as a wholesome family man
Kek

Let him go m8, it's time. He did his best.

>tfw we will never get gronk, romo, and mcafee bantzing it up on snf
we live in a failed reality.

What a time to be alive

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>you now remember when he called himself the beat TE in the league

What's its like being a dumb, turbo giga chad like Gronk?

who?

Now that the best TE in the league retired, who is the new king?

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Oh boy

Jesus, dude...that sounds pretty repulsive. Don't do this to your body during the Lent.

Mark andrews, the best rookie TE in 2018 and future all pro.

Nathan Peterman

Ertz was a literal nobody until 2017.

>tfw the Patriots steal their tight end after the NFL stole their Superb Owl appearance
It's like August 2005 all over again.

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He probably has the best fucking life out of any 29 year old alive right now

That sounds disgusting

Kittle

*blacks your path*

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>

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When's Brady gonna retire?

Baltipoor is a shithole.

this

I can drink. Just not on Fridays, I fast and abstain every Friday. Seriously try a hunch back its great.

10.

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Christfags are weird

Andrews was better in every category than that literal who.

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Shut up loser pats fan, Baltimore is 100 times better than that slum you call a “city”

>fasting
Terrorist detected

Um, no

You are a Catholic too. I'm actually united with you in this matter against these faithless heretics.

wew do you actually believe this?

No

Would you like to comment about Mueller getting BTFO?

I hope you're trolling because bodymore is fucking disgusting

why are you replying to him?

cringe

Not looks like my cup of tea but maybe I give it a try. In exchange you must drink a shot of ouzo tomorrow to celebrate the independence day of my country and the annunciation of the Virgin.

thank fuck this meme is gone and brady won't have his meme chuck receiver to rely on anymore.

>I'm a year older than gronk
>he's retiring
>just starting my post PhD career
>mfw
At least it's useful and I'm making money

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>Mark Andrews
Receptions:
34
Receiving yards:
552
Receiving touchdowns:
3

>Dallas Gogurt
Receptions:
33
Receiving yards:
334
Receiving touchdowns:
4

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Don't reply to OldGay with his trip off.

Still got Julian.

What field?

>you actually think I’m old bay

lel

Those numbers don't mean much. Did you watch any games?

NFL won't be the same without him :(

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i'm not even involved in this but you just proved he's not better in "every category" right there, no

Overrated af

Heaven lost an angel today ;.;

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WITCH HUNT OVER
VINDICATION

Are we finally done now? We have no one besides Edelman

Let's see AB do this in the Super Bowl, oh wait.

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>reddit bay
lel

He’d have to get there first

Belichick will just replace him with another Bavaro clone who does the exact same thing. That's really the only thing Gronk ever was.

>except all the other active investigations

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They'll draft some literal who in the 5th round who will turn out to be elite and win another owl

for fucks sake, why is nobody signing with >us
dont these faggots want a ring?

Gruden will get him there

what

pats dont need gronk to win but hes their best non brady player

That offense would be pretty good if they kept Nelson and Cooper

nüthread needed

>RUSSIAN COLLUSION!
>uh...um
>possible tax violations from decades ago!
COPE

You must be 18 or older to post on Yea Forums

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HERE YOU GO
NEW

Anyone who steps into the TE1 role for the Patriots is going to be a substantial downgrade and you're delusional if you think BB can just "replace" him with no team drop-off. Gronk was the most complete and dominant player at the tight end position in the 100+ year history of the game.

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>muh meme catch
OBj-tier overrated

How about watching the Super Bowl with a sex trafficker? Also, Mueller didn't exonerate, simply he was able to prove intent; mainly because Trump avoided him.

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I'm honestly sad to see gronk leave, it just reminds me in getting older

34 minimum.