So, who is widely considered to be your country's best football player of all time? And if you don't agree with the widely accepted choice, who would it be?
Here it would be either Rafa Marquez or Hugo Sanchez (Sanchez' nickname, "El Pentapichichi", is legendary here). I think Rafa is slightly better than Sanchez.
1.Eusébio 2.Figo 3.Deco 4.Rui Costa 5.Bernardo Silva
Robert Young
Of those two I think I prefer Iniesta. Guy is an absolute madman on the field.
Casillas is awesome but fuck GKs.
Alexander Taylor
>deco We were born on the same town, I'm not portuguese
Luke Nguyen
And some even say Ramos
Luis Morgan
For Scotland, it’s Dalglish. Though some would argue for Denis Law or Graeme Souness.
Joseph Martinez
Casillas is ahead of Iniesta, IMO (as difficult as it is to rank outfiled players and GK's). Iniesta is probably third in my list, anyway, so it's not a massive snub or anything.
>Yea Forums showing respect for Casillas Is this Bizarro Yea Forums!?
Colton Wood
What's bizarre about that? Even I as a cule respect Casillas, he was number 1 GK in his prime and one of the very few decent human beings in Halal.
Christopher Roberts
Usualy Yea Forums has no respect at all for Casillas and he is only mentioned in mockery
Blake Ross
What are you even asking?
Matthew Rogers
As it should be.
Gabriel Bell
What do you think of the original Manniche? And the other Benfica guy, magnusson
Jonathan Hill
I posted a picture of Michael Laudrup, why are you asking me this
Jeremiah Foster
Skini se sa espija Davore.
Easton Harris
>tfw born in cuba >sport finally starting to gain traction >the only thing left on the island is blacks and mulatos Now everyone is going to think Cuba is black like Argentina.
Ryan Morris
And what's the source of that animosity towards him? I think he's likeable.
Dylan Wright
Because they are also Danish?
Oliver Campbell
Mostly the Robben meme, EVEN THOUGH CASILLAS LITERALLY DEFEATED ROBBEN IN A WORLD CUP FINAL AND ROBBEN NEVER WON A WORLD CUP
That meme is disrespectful and annoys me
Josiah Parker
Patrician choices
Jaxson Perez
Thought you were talking about Portuguese Maniche, turns out he's named after him (Manniche), who'd have known. He only played briefly for our NT, not exactly goat material. I have no idea who Magnussen is
Hunter Johnson
why not this small goalkeeper wearing flashy clothes?
also Poland, Kazimierz Deyna. Maybe because he is dead, otherwise it would be Boniek. Deyna is considered better than Cryuff desu. He is also a "wasted" talent because our communist authorities didn't let him play abroad earlier (Legia was our army official club so he was kinda like this Korean from Tottenham)
Boniek is an italian mafioso destroying polish football. A shitty manager who has so much undisputed power here that he dictates Brzeczek how to choose 11 starters and tactics. Fuck him either.
Easton Stewart
Lmao still can't believe Casillas fucked that save, and he still stopped Robben's shot.
I think he'd share the 3rd place with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, not only because he's the only midget who could ever become a world-class goalie but because he also was a damn good striker. Yes people, this cunt played on what are basically polar opposite positions, and he excelled at them both.
He is a russian - armenian - mongol - french mix At least 14 countries can relate to Djorkaeff
Hudson King
He was elite 2bh. Scored an amazing goal against Atletico in the Europa League, played with Landon Donovan and David Beckham, he's the world's top scorer in WC Qualifiers and scored 5 goals in his last match for the national team. The best there was, the best there is, the best there ever will be.
England: Bobby Charlton, although people will say Gazza was the most technically gifted English player Wales: Gareth Bale has probably eclipsed every other Welsh player by this point Scotland: Kenny Dalglish Northern Ireland: George Best
I didn't mean exclusively in the Wales NT. Nowadays Wales has a much better team than in the 80s, 90s and 2000s. Players like Rush and Giggs would have much better stats if they were playing today. Overall, in his Liverpool career, Rush was an elite strikers, with similar numbers to Shearer, Henry, Suarez...
Bentley Young
>corona >good tastes like piss faggot
Brody Price
Based Parkposter Who's that between Park and Chicharito?
Nolan Green
Roberto Baggio Or you could just roll a dice on Milans team
Bentley Wright
yes but bale is so far ahead of rush in his record for the welsh NT, also winning 4x CL with real madrid. rush was absolutely elite no question but bale dragged a pretty shit wales team to the euro SFs
Andrew Reyes
What? Why? He saved two 1 on 1s against PEAK Arijen Robben in the world cup final.
>Bobby Charlton, although people will say Gazza was the most technically gifted English player came to post this
Eli Perry
Is it Donavan or Dempsey, Ameribros?
For me I think it’s Clint
Aiden Young
If "without real reason" you mean he drop his form dramatically, brag about not even training, leak info to the media so they would support him and complain all the time for not playing, then yes.
Jonathan White
I obviously didn't see him playing, but people who had always says that Luis Suarez (the Galician one, not the Uruguayan) was absolutely amazing. He's still the only Spaniard who has won the Ballon d'Or, for that's worth.
What no faggot, he was close but not on Rafa or Sanchez level
Grayson Martin
To be fair most people who like Liga MX look like oaxacos apestosos, specially Cruzazulistas.
Ayden Smith
Deuce for sure. Donovan had great moments, where as Deuce was a great player.
Donovan couldnt break into starting 11 in germany or in england. Deuce was the man at Fulham.
Joshua Murphy
Only caught the very end of his career and the fading memories of WC98 but he just looked a class apart even against Brazil In my lifetime it's probably Gazza (also Mcmanaman imo - was good enough to win 2 CL with Real) but after having seen his youtube comps Hoddle was unbelievably good and totally wasted by British mongs for managers. Also John Barnes. Pre-injury Del Piero was on the road to be the best but he never came back the same. With better luck Baggio could have won 3 WCs
Julian Nelson
>this team won the premier league convincingly
Nicholas Nelson
Don't pretend like that's their first team
Jose Thomas
Objectively, this guy. But some people say that Elias Figueroa was the best player in Chile, but he is more of a living legend than a player who has won important titles like Vidal.
90% of it was. Shitters like young, cleverly, Rafael, nani and smalling were all first team starters in the league along with de gea. If nani didn't play they had other shitters like Valencia. It was a truly garbage team outside of van Persie yet they still walked the league and even had the opportunity to break the record for most points in a premier league season by the end but their form dropped a bit eight at the end and they drew a few games like that 5-5 against west Brom.
Camden Russell
Smalling made 10 starts, Nani 7. Non eof the players you listed started more than half the league games aside from Rafael
Joshua Nelson
Young was a first team starter till he got injured and he literally picked up his medal in crutches. Same for smalling. That United team was pure garbage no matter how anyone twists it yet it walked the league with ease. Everyone was either washed up like Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra or legit garbage like Cleverly, Valencia, Rafael, Evans etc. De Gea was still a prospect at that time. It was a miracle they even won the league. They let in a fuck load of goals but scored loads as well. Everything that happened to Moyes started in 2012/13 with the leakiest defence.
>So, who is widely considered to be your country's best football player of all time? one out of Jim Brown, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, or Lawrence Taylor most people our generation would say Brady "football" is not synonymous with association football in this country
Bobby Charlton for sure. I think Gordon Banks is probably next in terms of universal agreement
Mason Cruz
This man changed football as a player and as a manager.
Nothing but respect.
Isaac Bennett
>"football" is not synonymous with association football in this country If you're some mouthbreathing idiot who would rather make an ass out of himself than just use basic fucking context to understand which football is being talked about, sure
Lucas Bailey
>sees everybody talking about actual football players >decides to be a fucking imbecile >"Tom Brady huehuehue"
Can see the top of his huge scar from the knee surgery that nearly ended his career before it began. There's a big torrent of his whole career and it's amazing
Ryan Hall
Look at these DOODZ Chicarito the lesbian looks the most normal lmao
Anthony James
He was so fucking good
Jaxon James
>Ronaldo actually won something with Portugal no he didn't, he didn't play the most important game
Ian Reyes
> that spinning uppercut when he scored
Elijah Gutierrez
Either Tim Howard, Landon Donavan, or Clint Dempsey. Most people say Donavan but for me it’s Dempsey.
Jacob Baker
All hail the King!
Jaxon Roberts
Suker, Modric or Boban. However, for me, it's Prosinecki.
Jose Garcia
Hierro and Xabi have no business being there ahead of Raul
Jordan Lopez
yes Dempsey is based
Joshua Wilson
Hierro and Xabi have no business being there, period. Even Busquets, Puyol or Ramos should be above them, and I fucking hate that fucking gipsy. And thats only to name a few in recent years and not going to Zamora or Suarez times.
Colton Cruz
>Herrera very good >Layun had one very good season, and one bad one >Corona good >Reyes shit
Mixed bag desu
Michael Long
Little Fish was legit sucks that the Guatemalan federation is crooked as fuck
The most gifted player of my country probably was Vasilis Hatzipanagis. My personal favorite is Theo Zagorakis tho. t.greek
Dylan Harris
>rafa
maybe at a club level but definitley not for the mexican national team, he's always been a huge liabilty since 2002 2-0 wc
Brandon Cox
Riquelme.
Owen Reyes
prepare your anus
Luis Ward
this is peak goalie aesthetics tbqhwy
Charles Diaz
Same thing here desu, for me it's Dobrin who is said to have been monitored by Real Madrid but the commie regime was against it, Hagi is a close second tho
William Clark
(vos)
Isaac Roberts
>Only 1 Brazilian post >it's el acreANO Pic related
What? When you say someone's the best you talk about general ability, not accolades in a small percentage of games throughout their whole career.
Rafa was an absolute beast on the field, period.
Jaxon Thomas
>And if you don't agree with the widely accepted choice, who would it be? Claudio Reyna Anyone who thinks otherwise either worships stats or had never seen Reyna play
Justin Kelly
Zoomers will say Hamez or Falcao but el pibe put colombia on the map alongside Asprilla and the rest of the 90s team
Probably Bobby Charlton. Though Owen could have eclipsed him had he not gotten injured so much. Though that could be said about so many English players. Gascoigne was also a lad. There is no English player who would get into a World's Best XI now. There is superior in every position.
Charles Nguyen
Not necessarily disagreeing, but just curious what your argument for Reyna over Landon is.
Chase Hall
>nobody has said Bobby Moore what the fuck Charlton and Banks probably come close too Duncan Edwards had he not died in Munich may have been the greatest Gazza was technically the most gifted player Hoddle is underrated The 00s golden generation were all great players but none were truly legendary
Grayson Garcia
ahead of Raúl, Quini, Puyol, Guardiola, Aragonés, Zarra, Zamora, Valerón, Pichichi, Mendieta... there have been a lot of players who were better than Hierro and Alonso. For me it's
Rafa marquez did more for mexico than hugo ever did, even at the height if his career he never cared about the national team only stat paddin for mudrid and pumas. Rafa Marquez was elite for a short period but he always cared about the mexican NT. Hell, even cuatehmoc did more for the NT than Hugo. Hugo only remembered cus he was elite in europe, thats it.
Jaxon Myers
What is that green sauce thing next to the tamales? is it good?
Isaac Phillips
first off, deco is brazilian secondly, it's: >ronaldo >eusebio >futre >figo >rui costa baia and ricardo carvalho close behind
Zachary Fisher
> Rui Costa > Baia > Carvalho How are they better than Mário Coluna?
Michael Mitchell
>Valeron kek Overrated and softer that a shit after Taco Bell's. Big player for small teams (and Depor was that). I dont even think Raul was THAT good (very decent player, but wouldnt he be at Madrid, he would have been very much less regarded as a great) but to put the autist Canarian above him is just laughable.
Nathan Martin
Pre injury Falcao
Cameron Gutierrez
>Imagine being this much of redditor
Jaxon Baker
Tell me, Dutchbros.
Is he the 3rd best player of our country (Behind Cruijff and arguably Van Basten) or is he the true GOAT?
Based as fuck Remember him best for his time at Derby where his legs were so fucked that he couldn't even train, yet was still an imperious man mountain pretty much on positioning alone
Benjamin Thomas
For me, it's Archie Gemmill
Jose Foster
>tfw england stole the best ever canadian and jamaican footballers Absolutely perfidious
Jacob Carter
Netherlands have many many great players, but I would give all my money to see Dennis play.
Jonathan King
This season was proof that SAF must have sold his soul for the magic touch. He won the league with a team of Rooney, rvp and spare parts. Took them to the CL final and only truly outclassed by literally peak Barca who might be the best side ever.
Asher Hernandez
>Mulattos I wish then the cuban team would actually be semi good. The only thing left in Cuba are fucking Haitians
Chase Williams
>Le fail at Serie A player
Lincoln Young
Kosovo here We had a few guys like Riza Lushta who played for Juventus in the 40s and Faton Kryeziu who played for Roma around the same time.
But Fadil Vokrri is by far the most popular here despite not playing for a big club(he had offers at the time but because he was on military service). Biggest club he played for was Fenerbahce. Also was the President of Kosovo Football Federation and he played a crucial role in FIFA/UEFA accepting Kosovo.
Really now? Shaqiri wasn't even born in Switzerland. Pretty sure the OP was asking about players from your country as in players that are actually Swiss in your case.
Stephan Lichtsteiner comes to mind.
Jack Peterson
Since independence: Kinkladze
Before independence: Kifiani
Brandon Roberts
jesus christ Portugal is so poor wikipedia doesnt even exist
Owen Torres
I know Swedes arent proud if history and all, but you literally dominated the italien league in the 1950s with Gunnar Nordahl, Gunnar Gren and Nils Liedholm