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BRING ME FREEDOM

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It was 329 games. Of which he kept 114 clean sheets that’s 35%
Joe Hart managed 124 clean sheets out of 266 games (46 % not counting his time at Torino) and is regarded as a shitter.
Quality>Quantity

tell that to retarded national team coaches who bench anyone after a SSS (small samples size)

Howard may not be fictional but I bet Everton fans wish he was see:

>hello big strong American boys, your goalkeepers are so big and sexy like you

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That’s league games it has nothing to do with national teams, and anyone who’s played >300 has had a fair enough chance to prove themselves

don't blame him for the team being bad at defending/keeping possession

>45 for Man Utd
>354 for Everton

Explain to me how Tim Howard wasn't "relevant" whatever you think that word means.

I mean Joe Hart should have been English Keep for years, not Howard

HOW DARE YOU POST HER

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>Yeah but Green has is a very low bench mark
Could this be the worst string of text I've ever encountered?

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Idiotic cunt.

>I've said this before Bongs.
Wow ure so wise saying something that hasn't been said by millions of others

did she go too far?

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A good keeper would martial the defence better
I take it back. A Keeper who fucks up in that many games (you can read back up for the numbers) is very relevant his mistakes decide the fate of his team

Did he really use Hart having a higher clean sheet rate on a stacked Shitty team as an argument? Put Howard on Shitty and I'm sure his rate would be up there too

Based

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>Cofused by numbers

>Howard didn’t get picked for a top club
I wonder why

It's quite something in a thread full of Americans you're the thickest cunt here

>not keeping a clean sheet is soley the responsibility of the keeper.
You're an idiot. Even on a troll thread with Yanks present you've demonstrated what a numpty you are.

>No meaningful argument
Bet your Scottish

The arguments have already been presented and you've made yourself look a thick cunt.

I'd say Timmy was borderline world class (I think he should have gotten more opportunities at a top club, but I can also see why he didn't)

It was also partially because of that one fuck-up he had for United in the CL or something. Bongs have PTSD with goalkeepers

Roast solo

Steffen is 24 already, being a second- or third-choice keeper in an elite team won't make him relevant. At least not by European standards, as far as I know he's a solid keeper and will considerably help your NT in the long term unless he gets no playtime at all.
Most Americans I met vastly overrated Tim Howard, but he was good keeper as well. GKs are one of your strong points, it seems. You've got some interesting players in general, McKennie, Pulisic, Adams, Weah. Should be enough to put you on par with Mexico, if not higher. You're making progress.

And yes, English goalkeeping can be a bit ridiculous. Pickford is a good one though, Hart was trash.

>your
dumb cunt

He was Everton level, nothing wrong with that

no such thing

She's fucking grotesque.
You know as soon as she de-robes it's all sagging and flapping about like a Boxer dog's chops in a wind tunnel.

Your argument is b-but Everton’s defence.
Everton were routinely 4th-5th in the league then with a decent enough defence that any component keeper could have done better Hart by comparison started at City in 2006 when they finished 14th and had such shitters as Micah Richards. Obviously you don’t remember that because you’re 12

Lots of factors can go into why he chose to stay there(wages, regular playing time, loyalty to the club that gave him an opportunity, etc.)

Timmy was capable of playing at a world class level at his peak IMO(see Belgium game). I know Belgium is a team Yuros rate really highly.

I do think that was a slightly overrated (most of their shots were right at him) but still very good performance overall.

My argument is that you cannot call someone 'irrelevant' who has 400 PL games under his belt and well over 100 senior international caps, you thick wog.

By that logic Gareth Barry is relevant
As is Damiano Vannucci
>In B4 you google that last one
The fact you have to means he isn’t relevant

What is your understanding of the word "relevant".

We’ve already established your understanding of it is flawed agains see:I wouldn’t be picking at other people’s ideas of it in your position

I will ask again - what is your understanding of the word "relevant"?

And I’ll tell you again it’s clearly a better understanding than yours

I'm thinking Arby's

Don’t....

But you still won't explain what yours is though. like the cowardly wog you are.
All you've done is strawmanned about Joe Hart, Gareth Barry and Damiano Vannucci.
You asked for a relevant Yanks goalie and the response was Tim Howard. You said you didn't consider him 'relevant', but have made no attempt to explain what your understanding of that word is, despite numerous challenges, and why Howard, a keeper with 400 PL appearances and 121 international caps to his name, isn't it.

Ffs go back and read the postsQuality>Quantity

the comparison to Hart was to point out that despite Hart being regarded as shit (rightly so) he actually did better than Howard. You then tried to claim that Hart was in a better team, but that doesn’t stand up. Because when Howard was in his prime at Everton they were much better than City, where as City only came good in Hart’s decline. That was this post hereYou then tried to say Howard has lots of caps and played lots of games so that must mean he’s great. But Gareth Barry player more Premier League games than him and is not really anyone’s idea of being a great player. Vannucci is his nation’s most capped player, but his nation doesn’t really matter at football, neither does Howard’s.
You’ve not challenged anything that I’ve said.

soccer is gay

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I know you’re furiously typing out a reply to this While you furiously and passionately masturbate and cry over a poster of Tim Howard, and I’m not judging I’m glad you’ve got a hobby but I’m not going to read it because I’m going to bed. Nightie night

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>You then tried to claim that Hart was in a better team,
No I didn't. None of my posts have ever made any argument about Hart.

>You then tried to say Howard has lots of caps and played lots of games so that must mean he’s great
Not great, but relevant. That was the word used and then one I rejected here So putting aside your snivelling lies and strawmans we can now conclude you're a fucking moron who thinks relevant means great.

Your entire argument ITT is nothing but an arseblasted response to the OP and your inability to prevent you letting your emotions and anger influence logic.

This the kinda shit I expect from the mexibros at /ligmamx/ . Who is this milker

Carol Vorderman. She's some washed-up British D-list celeb in her late 50s who is desperate to feature in the pap's lenses.