Fuck you lazy shits
/hoc/
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niggers
yee haw mothafuckas
not a good start
BUF @ PHI, 7 pm
SJS @ BOS
CGY @ NYI
OTT @ WSH
PIT @ CBJ
LAK @ CAR
MTL @ DET, 7:30
MIN @ WPG, 8 pm (7 pm Central)
NSH @ STL
FLA @ ARZ, 9 pm (7 pm Mountain)
DAL @ VGK, 10 pm (7 pm Pacific)
/mlb/ supports /hoc/ in it anti-/cric/ crusade
>Ferraro sucking Nashville’s cock
Why does he always do this
we never asked for your help ya meme stealing simp
think im done with this game. gg boston no rz or gz
just thought of a fun meme idea for Madison Bowey but instead like its Madison Bowie but hes shopped onto ziggy stardust or something
Good thread
imagine literally only being known for a pajeet announcer saying your name funny
baste samuel
>let's go bruins chants at the colliseum
lel
seems i've angered the sperg
Thought he was gonna burst into tears when arvidson took the puck to his leg
imagine beleafing that the metro is a strong division LMAO
Anyone have the chara fight
>you now remember the HBK line
general reminder that the nhl is a pupper league
not sure why sam hates dogs so much because that means he hates his own mother
Trashville haven't evn scored 5 goals yet on the laffs. What a fucking shit team lmfao
>8 Shots
>talk shit about cats in the morning
>come back home to find sam STILL seething.
rent free
>Not watching Nashville broadcast for the return of Terry Crisp and Pete Weber as commentators
SUP MOTHAFUCKAZZZZZZZZZZ
A dog is a filthy animal
More like 8 shits lmoa
wouldn't go as far as to call the motherfucker filthy
oh you
>86
I think about this everyday. Atlanta was hard times. The Jets? Real niggas
im not a leafs fan but i think they're going to win the cup this year for sure
/hoc/ is an eternal kitty board
Canadian teams don't win the Stanley Cup though
I bit my nail off and now my finger hurts :(
why dont teams just high stick the other teams best player at the start of the game and eat the 4 minute period to get them off the ice for the whole game? seems so fucking obvious but maybe hockey is so primitive they havent thought of it yet.
checked and catpilled
This was the best SCF in the last 30 years prove me wrong.
wish someone would take a killdozer through the jest watch parties this year, lads
How many stan lees have been won with shit D?
YOU'RE FACE
TO FACE
WITH THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD
the leafs have won 13 cups soon to be 14
DOING ALL THE FORTNITE THINGS!
Not as filthy as your mother Sam
You’d have to high stick a real pussy to get him out the whole game
Boston's D was all bangers apart from Kaberle
ok then board him head first?
im not a leafs fan but i think they're the most complete team since the 85 oilers
nah
C O P U L A T I O N
L A N G U A G E S
based
All things considered, how many penalties would a team have to inflict to get a game forfeit?
>t. leafs fan
>im not a leafs fan but i think they're the most complete team since the 85 oilers
how to spot a leafs fan:
>im not a leafs fan but
fuck you devils you could at least put up a fight
>he’s a wojakposter
grim
im not a leafs fan but i think auston matthews has a good chance of taking the mantle from gretzky
Tankers gonna tank
Sharks
Auston Matthews has the thickest cock at his position in the NHL.
I don't know how they do it, taking over play by play when your colleague has a cardiac arrest
im not a leafs fan but i think posting about other teams in the official /leafs/ thread is rude
im a leafs fan and i love sucking cock and going to mosque
im not a leafs fan but come june we’ll be talking about what a steal the Nylander contract was
>one of the greatest hockey talents to come out of the US
>plays for canadians
what a cuck
Why does everyone say 85 was better than 87? 87 has Kent Nilsson as our 3rd best center
im not a leafs fan but when they win the cup this year you will all feel very silly
be careful at the mosque.
im not a leafs fan so i have to admit im scared m8s
im a leafs fan and i absolutely love the taste of my wifes boyfriends semen
Bogdanoff playoff calls are coming, lads
thinking about removing some kebab lads
>quick refs, we can't let the state of hockey miss the playoffs!
Reported to New Zealand state security
hey what's your word
what's your game
i know your business but i don't know your name
>grease
why whats the worst that can happen
>state of hockey
>at his position
You mean on his knees sucking black cock?
im not a leafs fan but id take marner over mcdavid everytime
>implying it won't be a Cal v Tampa final
the bergerman
BURGERMAN SCAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
for me its being a masculine and straight penguins fan and not posting in the carolinigger gamethread
BURGERMAN SCAAAAR
>4-0
BURGERGOD
Im not a leafs fan but the leafs are going to win 86 cups in a row
>turris is a 4th liner
is it because he's old or has he always sucked?
But California isn't in a playoff spot
im a leafs fan and my iq is only double digit
the thundercats have a black player?
Never thought I’d say this but I miss gardiner
The Grubauer machine has awoken
im a leafs fan and we have 13 cups, stay jealous m8s
how can one man be so perfect?
>The Islanders are lowkey my pick in the East bro
too bad no one on the avs remembers how to score
tooker
Both?
Bonino is blowing up his spot
wew
checked
No Landy hurts
the islanders are a fucking meme team. 1st round exit. going to be crying about losing tavares all summer long.
maybe if they get 2 more top10 picks they can finally have a 2nd line
>from NJ
>still a Boston fan
Imagine liking the D*vils lol
pents of truth
Can’t wait until the Jackie’s do it to em
not a leafs fan so i dont have anything to worry about
hopefully Trotz will pull the goalie with 5 minutres left to give Kuraly a shot at his hatty
B I N G
I
N
G
nice get
hello /cric/serfs better luck next quints you c ucks
Seattle NHL update: Key Arena has been gutted and is being prepped for the demolition. Still two fucking years away.
oilels getting what they deserve for trusting a finn goalie
>Mfw Trotzy collects another
they should just play some yakkity sax when the laffs are on a """power"""play
damn when did mrazek become such a champ
>tf
>tp
LMAO AT THE STICKS
debrusk is back boys
I FUCKING HATE NIGGERS
The >Isles are a fucking embarrassment
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH SCAAAAAR JAKEY THE SNAKEY OUT OF THE BOX
Might wanna get that checked lad
>crowd chants for away team at your home games
fucking brutal
AYE OH
LETS GO
>everytime the leafs play in canada
truly the official team of canada
How do you get a Minnesotan to go to church?
Tell him he can teach Sunday school.
>Islanders-Sharks SCF!!!
>state of hockey
>one of the youngest teams in the league
Lmao
yeah not the team actually named after the country
I don't get it
Yeeeeet
sick wojak which subreddit did you get that from
Of course you don't Hans
Hey guys I came up with a joke:
Why do Minnesotans have to drink straight from the bottle?
that’s bullshit but I believe it
so much money tied up in boomer koivu, suter, parise, dubnyk all they can afford for the rest of the team is kids
their age distribution is probably bimodal as fuck
Because I’m too lazy to wash a cup out
>islanders getting past the 1st round
le stale pedo meme
BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CUPS
>Minnesotan has a cup
Post a picture with a timestamp
r/hoc
no cups my nigga
How do you get a canadian off your porch?
shoot him
ZACH WERENSKI BASED
/mlb/ meme stealing is just a myth, there was one stolen meme like a gorillion years ago. it's time to get over it already
the leafs will let you borrow of their THIRTEEN cups
imagine thinking the Islanders were a contender because they btfo the Laffs
Tell him to cum inside
hope my backup team the pens win lads
Mathews is dancing tonight.
>there she goes
>there she goes again
This is what perds play to energize their fan base
they stole clipart and smuk i will never forgive nor forget
by the end of his career they will rename the Stanley Cup to the Babcock Cup
how do you get minnesotans to go clothing shopping?
tell them kids pants are half-off
we don't use those things anymore but alright
ouch canes..... ouch
based /hoc/storian
>*turns on some hall and oates*
SCAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
Coyle so close on that one lmao
>that was goaltender interference
ok minnesota, sure
that was a legitimate penalty on aho though... don't know how the fuck they missed that
Decidedly more upbeat
Why are the flames playing like shit, the jackets are the most average team in hockey
you make my dreams come truuuuuue ba na na naa
>holding Dubnyk down and not making an attempt to move away from the net
You’re retarded
For me, it's hoc smuks or no smuks
if >your team has yellow on their sweaters you can fuck right off
>pushed into the net and held down by an opposing player
"no u"
AND IM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN
How do I get a date on Tinder?
Get FUCKED pedos
Yo nigga
oh honey just bee yourself
Fuck the Bettguins
>blind
Ok retard
lmao is dubnyk the most overrated tendie in the nhl or what
washington hasnt seen a blow out like this since canada burned down the white house in 1814
Mild's sub is absolutely BOILING right now
/nfl/ was even worse
>sunbelt
>tripfag
Who has ever overrated Dub?
CHIMP OUT
>it's only interference because it kept the game tied
you can't push opposing players into the net, dumb pedo
Why the fuck would you want one
Good scrap desu
You can’t stay in the net and hold down the goalie, dumb sunbelter
The Mild fanbase is the epitome of sports-related impotent rage
I haven't been on a date in over a year...
Being myself isn't working
t. virgin
>pongs
The dumb pedosotans who do their reddit chant every time he farts
Paul Fenton
>We Don’t Need You
LMFAO
Could have used a goal in that one. Johnny T has 40!
>canes scored on my backup team the pens
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
SCOOOOOOOOOORES
Getting ready for the comeback
>admitting you go to Reddit
JUSTIN FUCKIN WILLIAMS
>he was holding the goalie
would love to see the same replay you did
>backup team
gg isles
based phoneposter
The one the refs did when they called it goalie interference. Sorry sweetie
Bruins win
he's an avs fan, they all frequent reddit
Whoever was behind him being the mild's ASG rep should be shot
Dating is a nightmare
Meet a girl at church or a hockey game or discord or something, tinder girls are gross
t. Herpes
HOLYSHIT IF THE CANES SCORE ON THE PP I GET A FREE BISCUIT, LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>pk subhuman
lol that guy behind the glass looks like peak islels fan
Does he have the most powerful incel mass shooter aesthetic in the >league?
GG EZ
>dodging the point
Fuck off you dumb fucking reddit pedos
>Meet a girl at church
church girls are all leftovers from pastors and youth leaders and shit
t. incel
Of course they are a meme. Last 3 Cup winners have proven that offensive depth is what wins now in the ploffs. It's a given that everything tightens up defensively
>tinder girls are gross
>use discord
>admits he goes to reddit
kek so the habs finally win but then pens/canes is a 3 point game
GG bruins but fuck I am displeased in how this team played tonight
im not a leafs fan but this guy is the fuckin truth. leafs might give up 5 goals but they'll score 10 so who teh fuck cares its all about who has more goals bitches
I concur
Herpes isn’t that bad dude
Win or lose at this moment
P O N G B O I Z in this bitch!
pretty sure laine does
I can't imagine being this much of a protestant faggot
it's true churches are full of girls that got raped under hypnosis and coliform bacteria. they're just huge rape and poop dens
>It's a given that everything tightens up defensively
h-haha yeah...
Still better than tinder
and look at the leafs also. Getting shut out by the perds
>and look at the leafs also. Getting shut out by the everyones
rent free
Lol just wait bro
4-1 leafs final
>Isles
I feel bad for their fans, honestly, that was a fucking massacre. GG though.
DO YOU MISS TAVARES NOW? LOL GET REKT SCRUBS
Yikes
ufck the isles but fuck the ruins more
>w-w-we can score at will
>get completely dabbed on 4 games in a row
>s-s-s-stay scared m8
Why the fuck do you guys always have our number? fucking brutal to watch this game and how it hurt a good chunk of our lineup. maybe they'll finally put dal colle and ho sang in the lineup against montreal
>2 many man
>le speaking a little too soon man
>leltang
IMAGINE BEING AN ISLANDERS FAN LOL GET THE CAMERA STAN WE GOT A LIVE ONE OVER HERE
they've shown no sign of having any hope at all of beating the bruins
>we don’t need you
Get fucked
They’ve gotten to game 7 twice
Are the Bings, dare I say it, /ourlads/ tonight?
you sure think about reddit a lot
>Why the fuck do you guys always have our number?
money and steroids
my canes are gonna lose in a SO
leaf fans seem really shook by that one islanders game
i'm talking this year
has he scored against us this season?
>tsn playing up fights
BASED
fuck Rogers
fuck off vlad im trying to enjoy this moment
>stutterposting
hell0 reddit
cause they know the islanders are better
They got btfo by Boston in the regular seasons before those series’ also
holy shit carolina just put them away already
YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE INVINCI-BOL
REALITY WILL LEAVE YOU FEELING HORRI-BOL
DOUCHEBAG
IMMA FUCK YOU UP
FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU UP
DOUCHEBAG
IMMA FUCK YOU UP
FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU UP
>memeout
what the fuck was murray doing anyway
bell and rogers are both shit. they work together to keep internet speed 3rdworld tier. dont try to defend one over the other.
canes should've had that desu
now they're gonna get dabbed on in the shoot out
told you desu
Riding the coattails of Sidney Crosby like he always has
That game was so brutal, I feel sort of bad for enjoying it so much.
HOTDOG MAN CANNOT
how i felt last night my friend
They’re both shit but Bell is decidedly the lesser of two evils
based mrazek
storm surge time lads
>pongs
>YINZBURG
BUNCH OF JERKS
see
Which fortnite dance tonight?
shittsburgh may have lost tonight but lets all remember the teds are the ones truly getting dabbed on
pegga :DDDDDDDDDD
#CANES WIN!!!!! #TAKEWARNING
based rinne owning lafftards
Lotta incels in here tonight
CRYSBY ON SUICIDE WATCH
BETTMAN ON SUICIDE WATCH
SHITTSBURGH ON SUICIDE WATCH
REFS ON SUICIDE WATCH
GG Pittsburgh
the same company that encourages mental health care with #letstalk bullshit then goes and fires their staff members who are struggling with depression. bell is absolute shit. at least rogers doesnt virtue signal with social trends.
rinne is elite
holy shit
Rinne doing rinne things
thanks carolina for at least making sure the pongs aren't one point closer to us but instead two now.
>see the literal post I was replying to
Alright mate you’re cut off
Why does Benn seem so miserable this year? Do a CEOs words really matter?
based zoomer gimmick with a boomer video game
Damn that's fucked up I thought only burger corporations did shit like that
DUCK HUNT
>not saving the duck hunt surge for a win over anaheim
baka
dont mention it islelsfag. the days of my islels seething are gone
>haha the Avs are the Nintendo tea-
*gives up 5 spot in game 7*
No, lad, NO! We must never bully >our opponents.
Always remember that hockey is a game of sportsmanship and character.
Cringe
no context this shit
Canes beat both the refs and the Pens tonight la
shorks already did that last year
ATTEND YOUR FUCKING GAMES
Good job Carolina I am glad you pleased your hillbilly fans.
Christchurch Shooting reenactment, 2019
Based and insensitivetowardsChristchurchpilled.
OH NO NO NO NO NO
i don't think this sport is for you, jamal
maybe they should do some fortnite dances or maybe some musical theatre instead of worrying about "hockey"
Wow, doing this in the waking of the New Zealand shooting is really being tonedeaf.
You know the same fags that like their shit are gonna say that.
I would watch the tape if I were you Sid
COPE
C'mon Avs. Stomp a mudhole in these reddit assholes
>mad that they have no fans
>mad that the fans are having fun
these things are mutually exclusive, user.
>t. pavitar singh
youtoo
Evidence the Canes just needed a decent team and fans would come.
Shhhh... don't burst his bubble.
BUNCHA
kek that's sadly true
based don bringing in the merchandise revenue, should he be getting a cut of that?
>ssm8
Redpill me on Westman Village
SIMMER MUH MAN
for me, it's talking shit about the storm surge, while my team does elaborate pregame shows
also
>stay scared m8
>LAFFS
>M-M-MUH COMEBACK
can't even begin to describe how scared i am rn
>laffs
>ssm8
>it's a The Oilers Are Getting Their Shit Pushed In Douchebags Who Are Getting Fucked Up Fucked Up Fucked Up Like The Douchebag Organisation They Are And They Deserve It Reality Leaving Them Feeling Hori-bol McMeme Is A Terrible Bust episode again
>ssm8
this is good, a 2-0 comeback will look even better
Seriously cannot WAIT to see this comeback
i always get the last laff retard. stay deluded faggot. lmao
Wayne train alive in Nashville
how many losses in a row will this be for the >laffs?
oh how I await toronto to get DICKED by the bruins in the playoffs
It's practically tradition at this point
I hope it's another game 7 choke
Boston is going to push our shit in 4 straight games if we try this stretch pass bullshit against them in the playoffs arent they
ANDERSON
ANDERSON
ANDERSON
YOU SUCK
IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT
after tonight that's 5 losses in their last 7
just 2 but they'd lose 4 of 5
Pongs gonna miss the playoffs
MCDAVID
I MUST BREK YOU UP
VREK YOU, BREK YOU, BREK YOU UP
the leafs play boring hockey. gutless team. >muh sped
It was inevitable
based
hope we get a 67 chant in boston desu
laffs are literally soulless garbage: the team
can't wait for laffs to get rolled in the first round
Really rude considering his recent struggles
they're 5 points ahead of montreal
There’s only 1 last laugh
Anything that happens before that, is just progress
Boring teams based on style of play:
>flyles
lafftards were telling me he was a vezina candidate tho???
Keyword: was
Dubs and Staal tears his ACL before the end of the season
trips and they all do...?
kind of rude
Please tell me trips still count
Trips aren't dubs.
Should've specified which Staal you meant, too. There are three of them in the league right now.
Which Staal?
>capitals
>islanders
>penguins
>hurricanes
>blue jackets
who's the frauds and who's for real
Which fanbase are most pathetic? My vote is on the Soilers. The only thing they want is for McMeme and Hitler to win individual trophies.
Fucking pathetic.
>contenders
caps
pens
>pretenders
islels
relocanes
poo jackets
>for real
that'd be >my team
>frauds
everyone else
simple as
Isles are frauds
Everyone else is just mediocre
>For real
Caps
Hurricanes
>Questionable
Teds
Isles
>Frauds
Penguins
why doesnt his son play hockey?
dumb yinzer
Get home safely, #Canes fans! We'll see you back here on Thursday!
Why does Babcock look like the villian in an 80s kids movie?
He didn't want his brain to be any more damaged than it already is.
lose 5 straight games to a what? i didn't catch that part
after this fucking game I dont even know if we are real or the fraud. the lack of offense from barzal and beauvilliar is worrying me deeply come playoffs. but this is just a mix of getting completely dominated, getting nothing done on a power play, and a certain someone not in the lineup in exchange for fucking ladd
Lmao you deserve it for not specifying which one.
based mike richter retiring with 666 games played
>"the laffs have a real chance this year"
imagine having such low iq you actually thought that
every team has bad games user.
leafs suck
what do they suck?
based
>St. Louis
>located in Missouri
>Blues fans singing take me home to West Virginia
Some numbers, including the important one: TWO POINTS!
the passion /hoc/ has for the leafs always amazes me
i sometimes wonder what the FUCK these players are thinking diving headfirst into shots
seething crosshits: 1
i live in idaho
The sweet nectar of the hockey gods
>L3AFS
>LAFFS
>LAFFS
>STAY SCAR3D M8
dumb pens-supporting vegas transplant
SCORESBERG
that comeback is gonna be lit
Man this comeback is going to be insane
>LAFFS
>STAY SCARED M8
>MUH COMBACK
>leffs
you think they'll show shots of dubas on hnic anymore?
>this was a contending team in the East
LMAOOOOOOO JOKE CONFERENCE JOKE DIVISION
EMTPY NET, EMPTY NET
YOU SUCK
ITS ALL YOUR FAULT, ITS ALL YOUR FAULT
how is the ice in the saddledome?
it looks pretty shit imo
>stay scared m8
based >laffsmind
lol your state doesnt even have a team you cuck.
HEY MAPLE LEAFS
>bestern conference dabbing all over the leastern conference tonight
Don't remind Gary
>gets shutout twice by trashville in the same season
Scoreboard pedo
>lefs
HE SHOOTS!!!
HE SCORES!!!
YOU SUCK!!!
Imagine still being this obsessed.
>Rask 13/13
>Rinne 22/22
all the finnish goalies on fire tonight.
>POOK
trips confirm
Idaho>>>>>>>>>>>niggerlinas
cope harder faggot
In 10 years yours won't either.
THE SUNBELTB OWL IS BACK ON BOYS PREDS-LGBTNING BE THERE OR BE QUEER
>laffs shutout again
lmao potato state thinks he's better than anyone else
how cute
fuck nashville they're out in the first round to st louis
First meme I ever saved on this phone
who are those 2 guys?
Chill uncle steve
ohnonononononono
Gonna need you to stop antagonizing people, friend. You're giving >us a bad name.
Absolutely based
Absolutely cringe
...
please remember jordan eberles message
>he considers tampa bay as part of the sun belt
Fucking Tennessee inbreds
true classic
>phoneposter
youtube.com
Does it snow in Tampa?
lmao your state is literally the one everyone forgets about. what the FUCK even is in idaho?
du har en liten kuk fagot
My laptops in the shop and I’m banned on my static ip anyway
Idaho is a made up name, proving that there is nothing traditional about the sham "nation" that is the u.s.
outskirts of spokane and potatoes, in other words kinda shit
>Not embracing funbelt hockey
grim
it's more about what's not in Idaho, more specifically who's not in Idaho.
do you still go to games with your mom? I find it cute
for me its chief brady keeper
just going to check on the leafs ga-
8min goal review inc
I know I know, but for those two they havent scored in ages, and barzal has shot the puck so much yet he cant get the back of the net. the issues are also coming with production from players like komarov and ladd, who are so fucking slow. If this team has ANY fucking hope in the playoffs, they need lehner to get his shit together, and to fix the leaks in the defense that have shown up in these past three games
true but we cannot go back to europe now so give us a break
>brady keeper
BASED
>what the FUCK even is in idaho
me lad
just took my evening laffs. had to flush twice and light a match.
Yikes sorry to hear that
what is there to do in idaho?
I will, I was just trying to irritate
Anyone scared, m8?
How in the fuck could Tampa possiblly be considered not sunbelt
I bet you did have to light a match because you’re so fat
whl.neulion.com
seethe at good hockey teams
Fuck off you greasy wop shistos gamouri greek bastard
Are you going to be a new Seattle lifelong?
>your state is literally the one everyone forgets about.
not an idahofag, but I think everyone remembers Idaho potatoes. You want a truly forgettable flyover state look at North Dakota.
so much for that comeback, huh lafftards? >muh scoring at will
lmao
based
THERE ARE ONLY 48 STATES
DON'T FORGET HAWAII AND ALASKA
pretty excited to share a cool post with you all in the next thread
Laughing SO HARD at the Minnesota Wild
im in oregon and i cannot root for shittle
>____ ______ __
I guess only leaf fans will understand that the comeback meme is satire
pretty excited to tell you to go the fuck back to r/hockey when you post it
Didn't want to make the playoffs anyways
Laughing SO HARD at the Buffalo U Will B's
Fucking cope you nigger lovers
Where has this Grubauer been all season?
do you guys ever watch the multi-cam stream?
based leaf
I'd honestly forgotten about them.
Laughing SO HARD at Minnesota Wild
>I'm in Idaho
>I'm in Oregon
Make up your mind Schrodinger
>University of Buffalo
They have a hockey team?
he's an angry elf, thinking he was rooting for the laffs
cringing at the thought of letting in almost 22 goals in the last 5 games, lads.
No idea but I'm glad he's here now
Reverse psychology
I have an incredibly spicy OP lined up for the next one.
Lol minnesota is wet towel without granlund and nino. Easy win for us.
>"we can outscore our defensive issues!"
>cant
is that a >shorks or >laffs stat
t. Edmongolian
The Islels were exposed by MY bruins
yeah but you root for the >winterhacks
THANK YOU AVS!!!!
- Guy who bet on Yotes to be in the PO
...
both can apply. but who has won in that time frame?
Thank you Bings.
BING BING fuck you we win
I have actually a huge dick, but I don't know why you want to discuss dick sizes, unless you're a faggot and want to suck mine of course
lol yeah are you repin the tri cities LOL
Some of you bing fans are alright. Don't go to Pepsi Center tomorrow.
go back to r/hockey hacksfag
Shall be saving this for use in future shitposts