>born too late to explore the earth >born too early to explore the stars >born just in time to see frank maloney have a twitter beef with some other tranny about him stealing their boyfriend
Anyone that believes Errol has any chance in hell to stop Crawford is fucking retarded. Can be a close fight, but if Crawford gets hurt and fights defensively Errol can't put him out not in 30 rounds.
Sebastian Phillips
Crawford will outbox Spence, too versatile and smart
Bro crawford got hurt by a fucking cuban midget. Spence is going to smoke him
Jayden Morales
Where's this idiots video for the Spence vs Garcia fight? I refuse to defend him and do anything but ridicule him after he predicted something as retarded as Mikey wining by 1St round stoppage.
Angel Brooks
His crime series is unironically very good.
Ryder Foster
wew
Thomas Ross
2:17 am in London, young Anthony has been awakened once again
Well, he was given the decision by the judges. Whether that was the right decision is highly debatable and the majority of people disagree with it lol. Do you think Canelo vs Mayweather was a draw?
What's the possibility that this fight WON'T happen? And for what reasons? If this happens, the next match-up has to be Pacquiao and Thurman, right?
Chase Rodriguez
so is it going to be spence-porter and pacquiao-thurman next guys?
Logan Wilson
>Errol Spence Jr: >29 years old >Made his debut 7 years ago. > First PPV audience: 47k
>Terence Crawford: >31 years old >Debuted 11 years ago >First PPV: a crowd of 7k and generated 50k buys
The Truth hurts
Eli Sanders
Spence's PPV numbers are already out? I thought Crawford's first PPV was 97k.
Brody Lewis
No but they are undoubtedly higher than 50k. Arum said he lost 100k on that fight it sold so badly.
Gavin Fisher
Hm, I wonder Crawford-Khan would do. Khan is a significantly bigger name than Postol. It would probably still lose head-to-head in terms of numbers against Spence-Garcia due to the Mexican draw.
So many good fights at 147 but they're not happening. Hoping for a good match in 2019.
Jason Hughes
Not better than 230K I bet. They're fighting in NYC away from both their fanbases. Spence Garcia had a good amount of advertising that I doubt ESPN will match since they haven't already matched the regular advertising that Fox does. Spence garcia also had the cowboys pushing them .
Ryan Stewart
>beat Mikey >call out Pac
Fuck that faggot shit. Wants smoke but doesn't call out Bud. Bitch tits is a lame
Aaron Hernandez
What good does calling out Crawford do when he won't cross the street.
Julian Ortiz
Exactly. He’s lucky Al protects his guys otherwise Keef would put on a boxing clinic against him. Everyone’s acting like dognips is some master technician after the Garcia fight, but it’s easy to outbox your opponent when they’re too intimidated by your size to be aggressive. Thurman is the only truth at 147.
Nicholas Rogers
I just love boxing, bros. Why is it so based
Andrew Wilson
Based and Keithpilled
Connor Brown
Based
Michael Rodriguez
This man will walk through everyone in the division
Fight shouldn't have had any effect at all unless Mikey had won
Miller can't be bought unless Eddie got him the franchise to an In-N-Out
Angel Rodriguez
I still cant believe based Wilder straight up DUCKED AJ, he was my hero, I thought he was all about fighting and the division was scared, but it turns out hes a bum afterall
Spence has such a weak resume. He’s only fought at 147 and is considered to be the best by reddit dog nip sucklers. Aside from a damaged Brook that was coming down from 160 I ask: who he beat doe?
Alexander Thomas
BROOK was winning the fight but BROOK was to damage from the ggg fight. Also spence was on the juice.
Luke Perry
Brook was connecting early on. Yes, Spence broke the other eye socket, but coming off an injury like that surely affects the fighter’s psyche. I’m not saying Spence is on the juice until he pisses hot. I just think it’s disturbing seeing reddit good bois suckle his daschund nips.
Adrian Myers
I analyzed Ty, funny guy, identity issues and suffers from collective narcissism, but is openly conflicted about his narcissism as it is not personal narcissism, but rather collective narcissism used as a coping mechanism. He sees himself as a woman, as a modern black person.
Ayden Lee
Crolla: Joe we need some quality sparring partners
Gallagher: Don't worry I've got 2 fighters that are similar to Lomachenkikov
Diaz was our only chance at getting rid of him and the kid gave up after like 2 rounds
Jaxson Gonzalez
Is he trying to ruin his career?
Christian Rogers
I think the biggest problem is actually Showtime or FOX. IIRC both sides were trying to make the fight, but Showtime wasn't willing to put up the money needed to get two champions in the ring, while at the same time not having plans for making another PPV bout.
It's fucking retarded that we have to watch him fight a complete bum though. I wouldn't mind watching GRJ in bum fights if he fought at least more than once every solar eclipse.
Wyatt Bennett
IIRC he didn't have a deal with a network at the time so there was no cross-promotion or anything. He had to put it on PPV just to recoup some of the expenses
Austin Myers
Wilder is such a fraud
Blake Cook
EU belt coming soon. Kabayel will vacate or get run over like Arreola will in May
I was duck hunting with some friends (none of us are niggers btw) in Alabama when we came across this one duck. I shot at it and clipped its wing. Strangely it started shrieking out a bird call I've never heard before. It sounded like "BUUUMZGUAAAD". I don't know, guess it was calling out to another bird for help?
Anyway, we walked up to after it collapsed and were about to finish it when it weakly gasped "Pleez jus don take me to Joshuwa, I don't want no smoke".
Russell has said in the past that he is perfectly fine just fighting once a year. Yet he's always bringing up fighting the champs
Owen Sanchez
Wilder has a unnatural hatred for Hearn. What a emotional wreck, did Hearn fuck his wife?
Bentley Jones
>Seething britcuck mad that Wilder doesn't worship Hearn like the rest of you Matchroom drones Stay buttmad.
Brayden Watson
Upvoted
Carson Johnson
>R-r-r-redditor! Stay. Mad.
Owen Jones
Dread to think what the 'boyfriend' looks like..
Dylan Reyes
The worst part is Hearn had nothing to do with the DAZN deal with Wilder, he and his team talked to the former ESPN boss John Skipper. He is clutching at straws
He is the only fighter at HW willing to cut through the bullshit
Charles Flores
>“You just don’t call my manager names like ‘Shirley Winkle’. It’s like, c’mon bro – how old are you? – You up here trying to make the biggest fight in the world and you talking about ‘Shirly Winkle’?
Absolute king! Every right to protect the man that sued Shannon Briggs for good money
>mfw wilder did all that posturing only to turn down a deal that'd lead him to fighting joshua So it's basically safe to say none of the big 3 of the HW division will fight again until the 2020's right?
>Imagine if Deontay Wilder asked a fighter to fight on Showtime three times??? You'd all be complaining!
What an absolute retard. DAZN already knew Breazeale vs Wilder was being made so they wanted it on their platform, then after that he'd fight Joshua with an optional rematch.
Wilder is a BUM and a DUCK.
Landon Morgan
>DAZN already knew Breazeale vs Wilder was being made so they wanted it on their platform, then after that he'd fight Joshua with an optional rematch. Which is exactly why him turning down DAZN's offer means nothing. He's not turning down the Joshua fight, he's turning down the DAZN contract. Eurocucks will continue to cry and whine, like Joshua didn't turn down a larger sum of money to avoid Wilder.
Charles Baker
>turning down DAZN's offer means nothing Turning down $20m up-front for a fight as weak as Brezeale means he is retarded, and a Haymon puppet.
Xavier Howard
Wilder the fakest motherfucker i've ever heard speak..
He's a scared little boy inside.
Cameron Morales
>I say dis with much so coffidence
Gabriel Moore
Or that he's getting more than that somewhere else. Nevermind the fact that last year the $50 million offer sent to Joshua came with the assumption that Showtime can promote the even to make more than $100 million.
This offer DAZN gave to Wilder is both less than the money Wilder offered to Joshua, and it's less than the money Haymon and Showtime think they can make off of a Wilder-Joshua PPV.
>he's getting more than that somewhere else. Ah, yes, mythical under the table money for a free TV fight amounting to over $20m. You are as dumb as Wilder. His purse won't be bigger than the Fury fight and the Fury purse wasn't even half what he was going to get from DAZN.
Asher Perry
megabased
Noah Butler
>free TV fight >t. Brit that doesn't realize Showtime is a premium channel Stick to talking what you know, bum.
>His purse won't be bigger than the Fury fight It won't because guaranteed purses aren't reflective of what fighters are ACTUALLY getting from each fight. This is well-known to anyone who knows anything about the Boxing industry.
Colton Long
was Wilder given a 24 hour deadline too? Wilder hasn't earned a quarter of £100 million in his whole career
Julian Sanchez
DUMBBBBBBSQUAAAAD
Christopher Adams
>free TV fight Premium cable, my bad bro. Playing weasel-words like your weasel master to cover up Wilder is both a moron and a cowardly nigger duck.
Jonathan Thompson
Wilder is the one ducking everyone
You might not like it, but those are the facts
ducksquad
Cooper Rogers
>B-b-but Joshua had to think long and hard about a guaranteed 50 million dollar offer for one fight! Seething Britcucks scrounging for any excuse they can get.
>Joshua gets knocked down by a 41 year old Klitschko that Fury played with and dominated 2 years prior >Wilder proceeds to knock out Fury Tell me, who is REALLY the best Heavyweight out there?
Terrible job rewriting the copypasta. Didn't even use an Alabama duck
Caleb Evans
Kabayel beats him with Turk sliccness
Aaron Butler
>a heavyweight ducking the top guys
Why's everyone so surprised?
Levi Long
Wilder fought a prime Fury with no losses who had two tune-up fights to prepare for him, and he didn't take any knockdowns or get hurt before getting the KO in the 12th. Meanwhile Joshua cherry picked a 41 year old man who had already been KO'd twice by lesser opposition, dominated by Fury in his last match, had a 2 year layoff with no fights, and whom still managed to put Joshua on his ass and nearly finish him.
Wew lad, and you bums say Wilder is ducking Joshua? You're having yourself a laff.
Paying under the table would be believable if the sum already offered wasn't literally $20 million.
William King
They'll probably pump up his purse. All the hooting and hollering aside, they wouldnt turn down an offer if they didnt see potential for more money in the future. Wilder free agency lets him just wait offers out until the best one comes. And its not like fury and Joshua are fighting anytime soon
Julian Perry
>they wouldnt turn down an offer if they didnt see potential for more money in the future Like I said earlier, the 50 million they offered Joshua they offered him because they think they can make more than $100 million from a PPV fight between the two. The $40 million flat fee offer Wilder is getting for Joshua pales in comparison to what they think they can make on PPV.
The best deal just came and included a $20m purse for this fight he's just announced. I don't care who Haymon is, he is not recouping Wilder that kind of money on an under the table deal for this fight. I am sure Haymon did give him something, I just can't see how it can match what DAZN were offering.
>because they think they can make more than $100 million from a PPV fight Also highly unlikely since it would need to clear 1.3 million buys in the states to hit that mark. There is no projection close to that for that fight, sorry.
Isaiah Rivera
The best deal so far user. This is likely what it is. Look how big Spence Garcia was. Wilder Joshua is a multimillion ppv fight
Cameron Russell
I'm sorry but thats just ignorant user and its always British posters who post like they think they know how america works.
Theres a reason people say this is the biggest fight in boxing and that's cause it is. It would be massive. An undisputed heavyweight title match is essentially the super bowl of boxing here. And like the super bowl, even non boxing fans will tune in
Noah Cook
Wilder-Joshua would easily clear 1.3 million. Canelo-Chavez nearly did that much. Anyways, assuming a 50/50 PPV split, Wilder-Joshua would only need to hit 1 mil to match the 40 mil offered by DAZN.
>"I promise you dis, if we ever step in this ring, I will baptize you." Name a more iconic quote in Boxing. You can't.
I always get excited for Wilder fight against a top 15, there's a guarantee of a spicy knockout and he's shit enough that anybody can cause the upset.
Aaron Torres
Superfights are gay
That is all
Josiah Torres
Fury/Wilder had a huge build and you're saying they can find a full 1 million buys extra down the back of the sofa based on basically nothing. Joshua is not marketable to the USA in the way that Fury is and Wilder is not a pay-per-view commodity.
Canelo-Chavez was a bigger fight, Canelo had been built on pay-per-view, fought Floyd in front of 2.5 million, and it tapped right into the biggest built-in audience for boxing that exists.
Wilder/Joshua would have to surpass 1mil by a huge margin to actually match the guaranteed DAZN purses. The pay-per-view revenues would already be split between the network that shows the fight and the cable company before the fighters get their reduced share of the profits. DAZN cash was straight up and with no middle man and not relying on the PPV exceeding expectations. It is a better deal by any conceivable metric and Wilder declined it because he is either a) dumber than we thought or b) more scared than we thought.
Jack Garcia
Yeah, who wants to see the top tier boxers fight each other anyways?
Andrew Martin
Chino's gonna come back and end the Spence meme, isn't he?
Yes. Trust me that I know the mindset of my countrymen more than you do. On reality wilder fury is nothing compared to this. Wilder and Joshua both have near 100% ko rate and it will be for an undisputed heavyweight, that has special significance here because it harkens back to Mike tysons time. It doesn't matter what the fighters themselves draw because the event itself is special. This is the super bowl of boxing.
Liam Myers
Don El Chino about to come clean out the WW division again, being a narco must've gotten boring
Almost every PPV mega-event takes forever and ends up being a shitty fight. Has nothing to do with the best fighting the best
Camden Hall
>Canelo had been built on pay-per-view, fought Floyd in front of 2.5 million, and it tapped right into the biggest built-in audience for boxing that exists. Yeah and look at Canelo's ppv numbers afterwards. he only did +1 mill fighting Chavez Jr and GGG. Because fights themselves are important.
This is the biggest fight in boxing and a huge fight for heavyweights, the most prestigious division. Throw out every other comparison it doesn't matter.
Camden Stewart
Yeah but like I said buyrates themselves are nebulous gauges of actual in-pocket money for the fighters because of broadcaster and cable splits. $100m in PPV revenues is not $100m to the fighters, it is a lot less than that. DAZN cash was up-front and protected the loser's negotiating power in a rematch.
Jordan James
Literally undeniable that Wilder has been ducking Joshua all along at this point
Jeremiah Barnes
The same applies for the DAZN deal. That money is split up between the fighter and his team. They're betting on themselves that they would sell enough of a ppv to exceed the DAZN deal and I agree with them. It's that big of a fight.
Jordan Carter
He doesn't exist, promoters just lie to the recordkeepers
Nicholas Rivera
>be a poor Dominician with no future >get offered to get punched a few times for a quick buck >do it >still cant find a job, take up the offer again >get cte >trying to find a different job is even harder now, getting punched is the only thing remaining There was a documentary about that brit who had like 100 bouts losing most of them, but getting constantly ktfo at the hw division must be a whole different beast, was there a documentary ever made about these kind of bums?
Literally undeniable that Joshua has blatantly ducked Wilder. The 50 million offer (Plus more if the PPV revenue does more than 100 mil) for Joshua to fight Wilder is still more than the 40 million flat fee offered for Wilder to fight Joshua.
Anthony Ward
S L A P P E D
Nathaniel Ortiz
Who knows how many of those ko's are legit. The majority are TKO's so it could be any number of things where his corner just throws it in after a round or he quits on his stool
Noah Myers
Team and manager splits are done after the fighter gets his purse, not before. Do some research into how big cable splits are into PPV before you assume it would be so simple for them to pop a big buyrate and match a $40 guaranteed purse. UFC used to have to cut them 50% of revenues.
Charles Cooper
whats the fight to watch on saturday guys, getting back into boxing and i dont kno whos who anymore
Charles Hill
>UFC used to have to cut them 50% of revenues. That's because the UFC is the UFC. Mayweather took FAAAAAAR larger of a % home from his PPV split than McGoober did because the UFC is far greedier and slimy than any Boxing promoter in the modern age. I'm not the user you're arguing with, but that's a very poor comparison to make.
Brody Morris
Where can I watch more of this
Christopher Jones
I know about cable splits and team splits still factors in to how much the fighter actually ends up with. They can still exceed the 40m purse, guaranteed.
Jaxson Ward
Literally none of them. Peterson-Lipinets is the only fight to watch this upcoming weekend, and it's on Sunday.
Joseph White
Wilder crying about Shirley Winkle and that one deal going out the window when it had a 24 hour deadline, no terms and no contract is all he has. He doesn't want to fight Joshua and wants to squat on his belt
Cooper Jackson
this guy should have become a boxer, absolute unit
Brayden Butler
>He wants to squat on his belt >Which is why he offered Joshua 50 million dollars that AJ could've easily accepted, 24 hour deadline or not >Which is why he took on Tyson Fury >Which is why he offered Fury a 50/50 split for the rematch Keep crying Brits.
Charles Morgan
top fucking kek. unironically would watch more of this
Connor Garcia
Fury is incredibly overrated and Wilder cherry picked him. He lives off the fact that Wlad couldn't lean on him
Bentley Campbell
hopefully yeah, but I would wager that if hes getting payed to get beat up, he gets paid if he gets beat up Unfair, the beard absorbs the blow and the sweater adds weigh to the slap
Ayden Butler
>one shady deal fails >can't stop talking about it 9 months later Why is chicken legs so obsessed with it?
>Almost every PPV mega-event takes forever and ends up being a shitty fight Canelo/Golovkin 2 is a middleweight classic
Gavin Hill
He's getting paid to add KO's to a fighters record. A lot of these career journeyman are not getting beat up as much you think because getting significantly beat up delays their next paycheck. these are also fights nobody watches and aren't recorded so no one scrutinizes them. Also notice how after every TKO he still fights within a week or two after but actual recorded KO's, he takes a couple months off.
He's like Kristian Laight but instead of just taking decision losse, he has a setup where he gets TKO's instead. Probably better too since he's taking less rounds.
Ryder Brooks
Wilder like a woman holds grudges, he also wants to birth a child, he is a faggot
Isaiah Price
>H-he only had 44 amateur bouts, a-and only 42 pro fights,, h-he wasn't ready
>muh mike tyson >muh holyfield >muh holmes Hes such a brainlet but he has a great voice and casuals would love his references to the heawybeights, he should aim for a commentating gig
Angel Williams
just fyi, joshua/miller is selling badly, all the uk marks bought in cause OI OI ITS A HOLIDAY but after that "record breaking opening" literally 0 hype or sales because the prices are too crazy for a B level fight like this. not even (take your pick of all the great fights at MSG) have ever been priced like this. so expect some banter back due to the empty seats.
Levi Reed
>source. my ass
Wyatt Bell
fuck off Espinoza
Asher Johnson
im convinced now that Haymon shills are here
Jason Sanders
Who cares, he's only fighting Miller because Wilder won't step up
Angel Wright
>Who cares, he's only fighting Miller because Wilder won't step up Who would have thought the Britcasual of the day would come from /box/ and not Twitter?
Logan Myers
it will sell out
Camden Johnson
If Usyk unified the hw division, where would he rank all time? Top 15 hw, maybe top 10?
Jace Green
top 10, but if his manager can make him unified at hw, that man would be TBE of the managers
Kayden Martin
Dwyer is a troll channel now, when the promoters serve up shit fights he argues the underdog so he can chat to his internet pals about boxing
Brayden Martinez
It's be hard to equate because this is weak era of heavyweights it might even be weaker than the Klitschko era. The fact that he would have unified two weight classes would make him an all-time great though
Carson Harris
It's not a weak era with the champions, America's most mythologised heavyweights Ali and Tyson wouldn't be able to do anything with Tyson Fury. Joshua and Wilder would be dangerous at any time in history, they are huge. If Usyk beats any of them he's a legend like Holyfield
Cooper Russell
reminder: andre ward is an edomite
Evan Myers
AJ, Wilder and Fury wouldn't be easy for any heavyweight in history.
Andrew Torres
The bodybuilder is a B level fighter, I'll give you that.
There are dumb company wars posters here every thread. It's really embarrassing how many posters here take sides. Take Spence garcia for example, there was literally a poster making fun of how little they sold a week out and when I explained that the walkup sales and day before sales are what matter, they accuse me of sperging. Well look what fucking happened.
>6'3" walking through a 6'6"+ I knew that reddit is obsessed with foreman but this?
Chase Harris
Has it not occured to anyone that the reason why Wilder refused to take the DAZN deal is that maybe Showtime or some other big wigs might have dirt on Deontay. They won't see a single cent of that Wilder Joshua money if he signs the DAZN deal right?
James Davis
Fury was too scared to step in with Wilder a second time, he wouldn't dare step in with Big George. Joshua and Wilder have both been exposed by smaller, shittier boxers.
Jason Long
I'm pretty sure most fighters basically do what their team tells them. It's a pretty cozy bunch all around
That's how it always is in America. Mexicans will come out in droves to support their fighters, hence why Mayweather and Pacquiao's claim to PPV glory came from beating Mexicans, and why their biggest PPVs (Not agaist eachother or McGoober) was against Mexicans and in the case of Cotto, Puerto Ricans.
The only chance we have at a PPV breaking 1 mil over here without a Mexican main event fighter is if Wilder-Joshua happens. For reference btw, Crawford's PPV against Postol did 55k guys. Fucking bizarre that they're trying again with Khan.
no way jerry jones was gonna let a fight in his house flop. he probably bought half the ppvs himself
Nathaniel Lewis
Frasier was a blown up lhw with one eye and a crooked arm, he was the lineal champ and he beat ali Povetkin would solo the entire 70's roster, Frasier and Norton would get wrecked faster than they were by Foreman
Big baby is a pillowfist but with so much size disparity I think he might actually beat frazier but its a suprisingly tough match up for him because he cant out pitter patter Joe We have to wait and see him vs AJ because he still has to be properly tested, a lot of thing about him are still big question marks, you cant say anything with certainty about such a unit
do you really not believe that one of the big ppv stars and a big non ppv star couldn't do 400k with minimal advertising? >NO NO NO
Bentley Robinson
Give it a week or so before the actual figure comes out, pay-per-view number estimates usually involve collecting data from a number of cable companies
Nathan Barnes
>he thinks we've seen big baby go 100% in the ring
Christian Robinson
Oh I'm doing Top rank's ppv too! Coppinger reported Wilder/Fury's early estimate which was accurate.
Aaron Wilson
Fair enough
Kayden Clark
Guys, I'm watching some early DLH stuff... Man he was fun to watch
Xavier Butler
He might have been the funnest fighter ever to watch coming up the pro ranks. Nobody ever left a de la hoya fight dissapointed until I'd guess the Trinidad fight
Aaron Wood
What are my /box/ bros up to tonight?
Colton Jenkins
Watching old fights, get some food in me, and going to bed. Working early as fuck.
Oscar was just the most likeable guy until he decided to play the promoter
Christopher Smith
fuck all, hence me posting here
Sebastian Wright
This is good for boxing. Why would anyone be mad?
Jeremiah Nelson
Have some respect you little shit. Dwyer would walk rings around you in an actual conversation about boxing so don't be so brave here
Daniel James
I'm reading some sci-fi books I got from a fleamarket and eating peanuts
Bentley Harris
>A-AJ h-has to b-build his profile in the s-states with a single b-bum fight Eddie does it again!
Because the internet is full of promoter groupies, /box/ included.
Jackson Reyes
Just got home from the gym. I usually just warm up on the treadmill then go do rounds on the bag till my arms or legs give out. I usually go early in the day but I went late today and the room with the bags was full of fucking women doing yoga. I walked in and started wrapping my hands like I didn't know I wasn't allowed to be in there, the head skank told me to leave so I left. Then I came back two minutes later and asked what time they would be done (I knew they just started no one was sweating) she told me an hour, I asked if that was 8pm she said yes, then I asked if they might be done early and she said no. Then I asked again if they would for sure be done at 8pm and of course by this point all these dumb fucking whores have stopped and are staring at me and the head thot says it could go long. Finally I tell them to be careful stretching and leave. I did 20 minutes on a treadmill and went home.
I also harassed the girl at the front desk a few times. I hope I ruined the class.
Definitely has pedo vibes. Seen black boxing fans say his voice is cool and mysterious. I think it's creepy af
Luke Bell
I have never seen anyone say his voice is cool and mysterious. I've only ever seen people clown on him for whispering to his fighters. Don't make shit up
Thomas Wood
It was during the Ward/Kovalev 2 press conference. I wish I had saved that shit
Alexander Jackson
Lol, I used to train in a commercial gym like that too. Had to leave and find a gym with more like-minded people who didn't partake in meme shit like yoga and zumba.
Jacob Martin
Go to an actual boxing gym if you can. A man should never train in athletics ear women.
James Anderson
What sort of hellhole is this
Ryan Harris
>these are the posters who say they would KO you I"d fucking batter these losers
Matthew Richardson
This general is so fucking retarded when it comes to the business aspect of boxing. Literally everytime they say something will flop they get BTFO. Just stick to talking about boxing.
Wait wtf, the WBO actually ordered Yarde vs Kovalev. Nobody wants to see this shit lol
Alexander Cooper
this meme needs to go HIGHER
Wyatt Foster
they need to change the bag rooms
i get how yoga is great but they also need to be bowing to their asian superiors, ignoring what they just got gifted with and doing their open legged wide stances so that the 6'' would bed them better is just a desecration to the indian philosophy
Nicholas Cook
>womanlets You should've asked if anyone wanted to spar kek
Ethan Phillips
I can kind of understand why the did it.
Ranked #1 is Zurdo but since no one is sure what he's doing they can't mandate it. Yarde is #2(which is a ridiculous ranking) Boesol at #3 has an EBU fight upcoming #4 is mike lee who is fighting plant.
Plant vs Lee is so weird. I can't remember the last time 2 white americans fought for a title
I’ve never been inside a commercial gym but it sounds awful. I hate training around women. They’re poison and just their existence is antithetical to training.
Cooper Morgan
Imagine turning down a fat fucking deal just to get sparked out by a BUM like Breazeale
Connor Murphy
Why the fuck is loma #1 P4P? Who has he fought? He lost to salido! And Crawford #2? Again who has he fought? More importantly why is Canelo #3 and not #1? Loma and Crawford haven’t even sold 300k ppv!
>lost to GODLOVKIN >barely scraped by him the second time >beats a literal fucking britbum for a fake title >w-why isn't he p4p #1 REEEEEE Seethe more faggot
Colton Anderson
Imagine thinking that judge’s decisions are always correct. Imagine being that casual
Americans love shit like that, personalities and a story, Mexicans and Filipino-Americans paying to support their own. Doesn't matter if the fights are trash
Cameron Adams
Just 3 years ago, Arum dismissed Khan getting a pacquiao fight. Yet somehow Khan is good enough for crawford
P4P is a load of bullshit, there is no criteria for ranking people and when there is a points system people don't like it because Canelo will be #1 and Anthony Joshua will be above Inoue
Khan won't do much for the gate but he's a good B side. Canelo vs Khan sold around 600k on PPV and Khan vs Samuel Vargas got Sky's highest ever Saturday night rating but we don't know if Crawford can carry it in a perceived mismatch, the difference between this and Spence vs Garcia is they had the Mexican audience so I expect this to sell a lot less, they overpaid
when I read your story I just knew it was an LA. most LA's around here have taken their bags away because of the gay shit they put in there now like the fucking bullshit yogas or dance classes.
Ayden Butler
>Flag >Post Checks out
Liam Phillips
Am I an incel or sexpat? Posters here call me these things but aren’t they mutually exclusive. Also, if you’re serious about learning a martial art just don’t train with women. They play life on easy mode. They can’t understand discipline
Connor Moore
He isn't wrong though
Angel Lewis
>I usually just warm up on the treadmill then go do rounds on the bag till my arms or legs give out Jesus Christ do you at least record yourself? You probably look like the guy whos here for the first time and the coach turned away for a second and hes banging the bag like a moron
Owen Gomez
I've sparred with women that can KO guys in the gym
Justin Jackson
It doesn’t matter. They’re such a small percentage of the population and they only reach that level by emulating men. Anyone that pushes women in combat sports is an actual misogynist.
Joseph Morales
you're a fucking retard or train at a faggot gym with other fucking retards. no gym worth a shit could seriously say this. women are fucking garbage
Nicholas Long
What kind of soi gym do you attend?
Colton Nelson
>I've sparred with women that can KO guys in the gym I don't know what's worse. This or faggots who "box" at Muay Thai/MMA gyms.
I watch myself in the mirror I look fine and everything is sharp and fast in the begining. By the time I'm close to done I'm much slower and there's no pop left. I'm in the process of getting back in shape all I really care about now is losing weight. I'm 6ft I got up to 240lb working overnights I'm down to 210 now got like 20 more to go then I'm gonna go see that LHW guy. I'm in no rush I'm 27 and my back and legs are shot to shit it's not like I'm gonna be in any real fights
Even the bags suck I've knocked like 3 off the stands they just hang them with a shitty D ring
Eli Ramirez
>I watch myself in the mirror I look fine I have bad news..
Jordan Hill
Reminder that Guillermo Rigondeaux is a quitter and that the Cuban meme is dead and will never be brought back
Wow, didn't think anyone was as deluded as the Eubanks, saying that Yarde is the A side was bad enough, but conflating Yarde alongside Messi in terms of stature and influence is pretty much the most deluded thing I've heard in a while. There's so much delusion in that video it's hard to condense into a comment, wanting Kov vs Yarde at the Emirates because of Froch Groves 2 is even insane logic.
>a fighter who hasn't fought in 5 years is the 3rd best heavyweight in the world
Interesting.
Jeremiah Moore
politics have kept King Fres from his rightful WBA Regular title shot #FreeFres
Xavier Ortiz
I don't know why he's still ranked, he turned down the Manuel Charr fight in the end
Sebastian Cooper
I know you're just breaking my balls but I said flat out in that same post I'm shot to shit. Relax you fucking spastic
Ryan White
Charr, like all the others, tested positive for peds before their fight.
Jace Thompson
The Wilder offer was worth $120 million, Chris Mannix contacted Shelly Finkel and he basically said they won't take the fight unless it's 50/50 and Skipper couldn't tell them how much Joshua would get because he didn't know >I would never accept an offer unless I knew everything that was there, or else I would be a fool. If I accepted a dollar and later I found out that my opponent was making $4, I would be a fool. We asked what Joshua was getting, and we were not told German site also claiming Klitschko was offered $80 million
Hope nobody defends him at this point, obvious he just doesnt want it
Joshua Sanchez
It's basically impossible to make it 50/50 because Joshua's money will be coming from multiple sources, with Fury they're both in the same bed of selling a traditional PPV so maybe he fights Kownacki then goes back to making that fight as a joint PPV
Josiah Garcia
CP Freshmart
Colton Cooper
Absolute state of ducksquad after all of the posturing he did
Grayson Russell
based and redpilled
Nolan Lewis
I want to see it Hopefully he gets put into a coma like the leafland pimp
Tyler Williams
Shelly is making it REALLY hard to back Wilder on this. What the fuck is his problem?
The excuse is right there, they already set themselves up for it last year; they project they'll generate more than 100 million from the Wilder-Joshua fight on PPV. That's literally all they need to say. That shows intent to begin negotiations again after Joshua-Miller and Wilder-Breezy, and it's a valid argument.
But nah, they're flat out saying shit like "Ehh, I guess we want to marinate this" and "B-b-but what about how much Joshua is making?" Absolutely fucking embarrassing PR from them. I'm absolutely convinced that Hearn, Finkle, and Arum are all in on the marination now. That they're taking turns saying really stupid shit to get fans mad and talking about how fucking stupid this all is, trying to appear to be the villains at separate times to maximize profits for the fight finally happens in 200 years.
>they project they'll generate more than 100 million from the Wilder-Joshua fight on PPV They might do but if Joshua doesn't go on their PPV then it doesn't matter. DAZN would probably go to $50 million for Wilder but if they put a caveat on it that they need to know what Joshua is making that it's harder to do the fight so I don't see it happening this year
David Cox
>*whispers in your ear* Stay off the booze Based. Warrington gets ko'd.
Michael Hughes
Nah mate, the contract is worth $120 million
Luke Brooks
I don't think they'd pay him much to fight a corpse with no belts. Miller is gonna murder Joshua
They aren't using your explanation because there isn't the data to support it, like I told you yesterday. Shelly did say it could do "3 million buys" on PPV though which was pretty funny.
Alexander Mitchell
Chavez vs Eubank is the fight to make.
Nathan Cox
Damn I guess this rules out Broner vs Brook.
Cooper Clark
It doesn't look good tho, turning down 40mill per fight and a guaranteed Aj fight then proceed to fight brezeale on a non ppv fight. Maybe wilder and haymon are locked by contract or go figure. After all that talk from wilder and the 50mill imaginary offer wilder move is lame
The worst part is they spent a year riling Wilder's fan base up accusing Joshua of ducking when that $50 million offer was by BT which would require Joshua to break his sky only contract and get sued. Then they pull this off with 0 excuse apart from 'Hearn hurt my feelings'
>that $50 million offer was by BT Source: Your ass.
Joshua Anderson
I heard the same stuff, but from Eddie Hearn
Brandon Rodriguez
and Wilder-Fury only got made because Wilder's camp thought Fury was absolutely washed (as we all did)
Leo Gonzalez
I doubt they care what looks "good" considering most boxing fans(in this general too) are woefully ignorant of how the business of boxing works.
Julian Miller
Haymon can't be both adviser and content provider, there's a conflict of interest now they can't always offer the highest amount. Previously when he let fights happen because he couldn't match it, like Wilder vs Povetkin, it wasn't direct competition in the US
Christian Turner
There were plenty of people here who thought Fury would school Wilder. What alternate reality are you living in?
>and Wilder-Fury only got made because Wilder's camp thought Fury was absolutely washed (as we all did) ...Which is why it was Fury who backed out of the rematch, right? Besides, Wilder won that fight.
>The Incel Broner Cope: Freaks out and will kill a gay man for touching him. >The Chad Pacquiao Solution: Sends all gays to the execution chamber for existing.
>Hearn believes that Whyte being ranked #1 with the WBC should equate to him being made the mandatory. Obviously it doesn’t work that way. The WBC orders fighters the eliminators, and Whyte never took part in one. Instead, he fought guys like Lucas “Big Daddy” Browne, Ivica Bacurin, David Allen, Robert Helenius, Joseph Parker and Dereck Chisora. Those are fine B and C-level heavyweights, but they major talents, and more importantly none of those fights were designated as title eliminators with the WBC.
vs.
>boxingscene.com/whyte-hopes-become-wbc-mandatory-meeting-scheduled--137263 Which doesn't explain at all outside of the Fury rematch collapsing and frames it as Whyte getting fucked over framing it as >After years of pushing, Dillian Whyte is hoping to become the mandatory challenger to the WBC heavyweight title.
>Despite Whyte being ranked as number 1 by the sanctioning body, the made Breazeale the mandatory challenger to the belt.
Pure propaganda piece from boxingscene.
Xavier Jenkins
He did apart from two moments in a 36 minute fight. It's pathetic how you yanks are trying to rewrite history as if Wilder isn't only a champion right now due to pure corruption
John Walker
The logical thing for the WBC to do is to order Whyte vs Ortiz for the WBC interim belt with the winning becoming mandatory. If they do it I think they will take it but they might not want to because they know that could fuck over PBC/Wilder and it’s Matchroom’s job to push them into it and that’s why there’s the legal threats because they’re tied up with PBC and they want something solid
Samuel Jackson
He doesn't. He's just saying shit to rile up his matchroom casual fanbase. Literally nowhere has Whyte currently said anything about this.
What funny is that this is all Hearn's doing too because he wanted Whyte against Joshua instead.
And if they wanted it so bad, they shouldn't have ducked the title eliminator with Ortiz. Whyte was ordered to have an eliminator fight with Ortiz but ducked him >fightsports.tv/ortiz-awaits-wbc-ruling-on-eliminator/
>Obviously it doesn’t work that way. The WBC orders fighters the eliminators, and Whyte never took part in one. Which one of these did Brezeale take a part in?
Matthew Clark
Whyte’s next fight is on Sky with Matchroom in July. He’s not interested in Top Rank’s fights. He fought Parker instead of Ortiz and became number 1 with the WBO
Asher Young
He beat Eric Molina in an eliminator in which only he would become mandatory if he won. All Eddie is doing is forcing the WBC into something concrete because they’re in bed with PBC
Colton Ortiz
they explicitly stated that the winner of that fight wouldn't become mandatory in fairness
Christian Moore
Yeah they lied because WBC is an extension of PBC hence the lawyers. If they're offered Ortiz as a final eliminator I believe they'll take it but they need it in writing
Blake Cox
That's a shit eliminator and the WBC is shit for booking it as one.
Adrian Harris
Against Molina. Whyte has had multiple opportunities but Hearn had him facing non eliminator opponents. Whyte could have fought breazeale for a mandatory spot earlier too.
Ahh fair. i swear I thought he finalized the top rank deal
Justin Ramirez
They were offered ortiz as a secondary eliminator( as in Whyte would become mandatory after wilder beats breazeale) but they never took the fight. They didn't take the Pulev eliminator either.
Hearn has always positioned Whyte to rematch Joshua this is just more media manipulation that all promoters do
Alexander Young
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Breazeale was sitting on that mandatory position. No way was he gonna fight Whyte until being ordered to the WBC
Sebastian Bennett
>Hearn has always positioned Whyte to rematch Joshua No he kept options open. Wilder was offered $7 million to fight Whyte in New York and that was part of the reason they did Fury on PPV. With Ortiz before they didn't want to fight him only to become second mandatory behind Breazeale when Whyte was already number 1 because that's obviously bullshit. Now the WBC need to do what's best for the fighter and boxing and say okay you and Ortiz fight each other in a final eliminator and if Whyte/Eddie don't like it that's up to them
Cooper Parker
Whyte didn't wan to accept a shitty offer of a rematch clause with the same purse even if he won
Xavier Edwards
He wasn't though.
The timeline is he became mandatory on the same night Wilder stopped stiverne who still had the ability to become mandatory because he previously held the belt/ some legal shit akin to Oquendo. ^this was November 2017
Wilder then faced Ortiz in March 2018 and then special allowance to fight Fury.
It's not like he's been sitting on it on purpose.
Luke Parker
NEW
Nolan Davis
>With Ortiz before they didn't want to fight him only to become second mandatory behind Breazeale when Whyte was already number 1 because that's obviously bullshit Whyte wasn't #1 at the time Breazeale got the mandatory. He only became #1 a year after with Breazeale still waiting for this shot. It's scummy for hearn to try to interject and steal Breazeale's shot when it's not even his fault.
And trying to act as if being #1 means anything is extra hypocritical, since WBC orders mandatories through eliminators.
Does Trevor Bryan deserve a shot over Miller because he's ranked above Miller in the WBA?
Gavin Bell
ty
James Sanchez
I still can't believe both of them got exposed so hard on the same night. It couldn't have gotten any worse for them. I hope Jermell gets KOd in the rematch and retires.
Camden Garcia
>It couldn't have gotten any worse for them Would have been DONE for both of them if either got sparked
