Isnt Messi technically italian? and if so is he the best italian player ever?

>and if so is he the best italian player ever?
Nope

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no, Italy is technically Argentinian

1934 and 1938 world cups Italy used Argentinian born players to win

at one point a few years ago the Italian national rugby team had 7 STARTERS who were born in Argentina

currently the Italian rugby team is captained by Sergio Parisse, who is Argentinian.

*slips*

The absolute state of cucktalians

He actually has some catalan ancestry.

Both Baresi and Massaro missed their penalties before Baggio. Baggio's close control has only been rivaled by Maradona in football history

Italy literally cheated pre WW2. Their titles don't count.

He's the best roman player ever, future king of catalonia

Half of Argentinians have Italian ancestry

Messi is also part Spanish (the surnames Baró, Pérez and Mateu pop up in his genealogical tree) and maybe a bit Portuguese as well (his maternal grandmother carried the family name Oliveira).

wtf i love messi now

Messi isn't remarkable in that aspect. The reason why so many Argentines play in Europe, apart from their skill, is for most of them getting an EU passport is quite easy, so they dont use the foreigner spots of clubs. That makes them very convenient.
60% of Argentines could get an Italian passport (at least 1 Italian grandparent)
Not all of them are "white", think of Di Maria or Daniel Passarella.

The city of Messi, Rosario, is one of the most Italian heavy ones.
And most people in the generation of Messi are mixed, like Amerimutts. who are x% something y% other thing

Milito or the basketballer Ginobili look more Italian to me

>and if so is he the best italian player ever?
No, that would be Diego Maradona.

Maradona has native and Croatian ancestry too (that is why he named one of his daughters Dalma, from Dalmatia)

Maradona is a mixture of Spaniards, Italians, Croats and Native Americans. The surname Maradona stems from Galicia despite how Italian it sounds.

Milito and Francescoli look like they come straight outta Lombardy

But what about TSU ethnicity? Brother look Arab

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He's 1/8th african

We dont talk about madeira

just like 90% of argentinians

Milito always reminded me of Francescoli, I was never sure if their similar looks made me see them as similar as players too.

milito, francescoli, and sly stalone look like they are cousins

imagine going to a region where everyone looks like this. Europe is disgusting.

Ronaldo is originally white

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>Messi Cuccittini
Definitely Italian
Don't expect these assblasted mexican chicano scum to post anything interesting. Ugly brown envious people

Its a fucking tan

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>in one alternate timeline, Messi played for Italy and scooped up the World Cup in 06
>in another, he played for Spain and scooped up a World Cup + 2 Euros
>in either of these timelines maybe they win even more, since now they have Messi

fuck this gay timeline

>young Raul Meireles and Hugo Almeida in the picture
Based

that's nice but that face, white he is not

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More like 1/16th. His great grandmother was from Cape Verde and they're pretty much all mulattos over there

there are bolivians that color on the left, that doesn't make someone white. also he is from an island closer to africa than europe

Like most south americans messi is a quarter native american

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>gets progressively more attractive as he gets darker

What did Tsu mean by this?

For me, it's Bologna Baggio.

Also if fate was kind it was very possible he could have won 3 WCs

>portuguese, italian and scatalonian
>born in argentina
Is Messi the most evil man in the world?

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Just a reminder that CR7 was not born in european land

He does like Pizza.

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>Real Ronaldo

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>Dalma
>Dalmatia
Reminder that Dalma is an ancient Illyrian form of the Albanian "Delme" which means "Sheep"
Originally Dalmatia sprang from the Illyrian tribe the Delmatae tribe
They were probably called that because there were a lot of sheep around there in ancient times

So in conclusion, Maradona literally called his daughter a sheep.

And yes
>WE WUZ ILLYRIANS AND SHIEET

he bought himself new teeth

>that is why he named one of his daughters Dalma, from Dalmatia
rightful italian soil

>imagine going to a region where everyone looks like this. Europe is disgusting.
t. amerimutt

t. triggered beaner

It's rightful Albanian soil because of Delmatae/Dalmatia and Delminium coming from the word Delme which means "Sheep"

all europa is rightful italian clay

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In that case, most Americans athletes are English and you have no chance catching up to us in the Olympics.

Look man, Europeans raped a lot of countries.

Rent free

how much fucking work has this cock-sucking faggot put into his looks?

Gentle reminder Messi isn't even the best player from Assgentina.

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Now let me tell you about Sívori, *sips* that was a great player

wow, cool
also, cocaine is pretty big in dalmatia

> cheating commie
>not posting the true assgentinean goat

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*Takes on entire English team and scores*
*Wins World Cup with an Assgentinian NT as equally talented Messoy's*
Messi is le virgin to CHADadona.

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Everyone in Assgentina knows Maradona is full CHAD to Messoy's virgin.

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*ahem*
he's Uruguayan just like Gardel
argies don't deserve him

Yeah, no.
Dont need anymore chokers, we already have Tabarez.

no
mestizo
pic related grandma

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Messi is Chilean he won us two cups
TYBM

Maradona is another mestizo
his dad
almost all argies have native blood

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Messis sister and cousin
messi is a mestizo w/ a considerable ammount of native blood

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I just found out Marlon Brando wasn't Italian

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>tryna spread that mutt stupidity
he was born in Argentina so that makes him Retarded, stupid ass!

UM DE NÓS

His mom is a mestiza
look at her round face
messi also has mongol tier cheekbones
you got memed argies are not as whte as they think they are

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Messi is also technically Catalan and related to Bojan Kric

>Other ancestors of Lionel were from Catalonia. In particular, his great-great-grandfather Ramon Lloyd Perez (born 1895 in El Poale), whose granddaughter Rosa Maria Perez married Eusebio Messi Baro in Argentina, Angelo Messi’s descendant. Actually, thanks to his Catalan great-grandmother Rosa, Leo easily received a Spanish passport.

>Leo is also a relative of Bojan Krkic, the Spanish footballer of Serbian origin who played for Barca from 2004 to 2011. Several years ago, Diari Segre, after researching the genealogical tree of Barca’s icon, discovered that the families of Messi and Krkic share the surname Perez, stemming from Catalan ancestors who lived in a small town of Teruel (eastern Spain) in the 18th century.

Fvck off what a retarded thread

We're all catalans kek

If he’s Italian then so is Napoleon Bonaparte

*cheats his way through a world cup
FTFY you filthy argienigger

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>Messi is also technically Catalan
kino

>Brother look Arab
like all portuguese people

facts are facts mate

>Brother look Arab
>Moortugal

Look, I know they're >our greatest allies, but come on. I can't even be bothered to open my meme folder to post mfw.

Wait........wtf?

t. seething Britfag expat

Maradona is Sicilian and Messi is from Genoa

Messi is black One of us One of us

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For me, it's Andrés Cuccittini

Looks like a black albino

Maradona is Croatian.

Top 10 Argentinian players of all time
Messi
Maradona
Di Stefano
Houseman
Sivori
Batistuta
Bochini
Zanetti
Kempes
Caniggia

can you see the pattern?

>muh heritage

interesting how only white players are allowed to be any nationality on Yea Forums

Nobody cares if Mgubu is from the Congo or from Zaire or whatever tribes they have there

based

7/10 italian

Messi has Italian parents but must be Argentinian. Sterling has Jamaican parents but according to the far right minority on Yea Forums cannot be English. this was my point

This, he's one of many Uruguayans we stole

Messi, Gardel, Artigas, Pope Francis, Maradona, Che Guevara. All Uruguayan

Nah, both Messi parents were born and raised in Argentina, same for 2 or 3 of his grandparents

whatever the particulars, my point still stands. plenty of european internationals are first or second gen immigrants and no one is arsed

if you remove people that are 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants then we wouldn't even be able to field 11 guys

It’s different for new world countries. No one would say black American or black brazillians aren’t American or brazillian.

it's also stupid to say, as an example, pogba isn't french or lukaku isn't belgian

they probably never even visited their ancestors land and don't speak their language nor know their culture, they were born, raised and cultured in europe, but just happen to have black skin

They don’t “happen to have black skin”, they have black skin because they are African and not European. And as for culture “Pogba” isn’t exactly a french name.

yea but the portuguese team is not portuguese

>Anthony Lopes, born in France
>Raphael Guerreiro, born in France
>Kevin Rodrigues, born in France
>Adrien Silva, born in France
>Pedro Mendes, born in Switzerland
>Cedric Soares, born in Germany
>Pepe, born in Brazil
>Rony Lopes, born in Brazil
>Ricardo Ferreira, born in Canada
>Danny, born in Venezuela
>Rolando, born in Cape Verde
>Gelson Martins, born in Cape Verde
>Gedson Fernandes, born in Sao Tome and Principe
>Edgar Ie, born in Sao Tome and Principe
>Jose Bosingwa, born in RDC Congo
>William Carvalho, born in Angola
>Helder Costa, born in Angola
>Danilo Pereira, born in Guinea-Bissau
>Eder, born in Guinea-Bissau
>Bruma, born in Guinea-Bissau

the fuck is this

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how are they african? they were born in europe

They are second generation portuguese

There are white people who have been born in Asia. We don’t call them asian.

if they stayed there their whole life, attended school there and did their whole professional life there, sure

do you call kane irish just because he has irish acestors even when he lived his whole life in england? or do you call grierzmann german? that surname doesn't sound french, just like pogba

Isn't the majority of Americans of German ancestry?

something went right

For me it's the italian goat, Iner milan hall of fame Lionello Messina

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Well at least you are consistent. Let’s just agree to disagree. I’m bored of this debate anyway.

>do you call kane irish just because he has irish acestors even when he lived his whole life in england?
The irish are genetically and culturally similar to the English, it’s simply much easier to consider someone with Irish heritage English than someone with Igbo heritage. Might not be “fair” but that’s the way it works, same as someone from Ghana would be more readily accepted into Nigerian identity than someone from Korea. Ireland and England are historically linked and have been for almost 1000 years. Plus he’s half English, I don’t mind considering the half English mixed race players English either desu.

I don’t know about Griezemanns heritage or enough about France so I won’t comment on that.

shut up blerim. you're turk rape babbies. all ilyrians went extinct by 800 AD.

Only argies or ironical people will this. Even someone with brain damage know Maradona was the worst cheater on this sport and he’s lucky he wasn’t caught in the act back in the 80’s

ok. so why do those players come under scrutiny from sections of Yea Forums when they're black playing for a European nation

some do though. on these very boards

and the difference between African and European is what? culture, which is learned
>culture
>name
culture, unlike surnames, is not passed on along the male bloodline

you've never heard of white Jamaicans? white Zimbabweans and South Africans? Asian Ugandans? the list can go on. ironically we treat non whites poorly whether in their home or ours it seems

a black English person has much more in common with a white English person culturally than a white Irish person. again, culture is learned, not genetic, and we are talking about players that have lived all or almost all of their lives within european nation states.

kek

>and the difference between African and European is what? culture,
Well, you can tell whether or not someone is African or European based on skull shape or a DNA test for example.

>you've never heard of white Jamaicans? white Zimbabweans and South Africans? Asian Ugandans?
Those nations are new world nations (Jamaica) or meme colonial created nations with many ethnicities. I’ve never heard of a white Igbo or black Korean.
>we
So you’re white. Why are you trying to be a white saviour? If you were black I’d get where you’re coming from and sympathise with you because youd probably have some degree of identity issues, but the fact your white and purely just trying to white knight POC is kinda irksome.
>a black English person has much more in common with a white English person culturally than a white Irish person
Culturally maybe though this is VERY subjective. For example, I would have more in common with a middle class Irish guy than an innit blud black guy. Irish people and English people eat more similar food than English people and Afro-Caribbean people for example. This is way too subjective a subject to many variables.

and subject*

Barely slept last night.

>people say Messi must be Argentine!!
>in a thread that's about Messi being Italian

>and the difference between African and European is what? culture, which is learned

Try learning these genes

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>how are they african? they were born in europe

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How does one get Argentinian/Spanish/Italian gf? What are they like? Pure, kind, clever, loyal, reliable?

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ANGOLA É NOSSA

Is the portuguese they speak in Cabo Verde intellegible for a continental?

>and if so is he the best italian player ever?

1. Roberto Baggio
2. Gianluigi Buffon
3. Francesco Totti
4. Alessandro Del Piero
5. Gianni Rivera
6. Andrea Pirlo
7. Dino Zoff
8. Fabio Cannavaro
8. Paolo Maldini
9. Franco Baresi
10. Gaetano Scirea

Aheeem

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Cabo Verde are barely human, they should torch that island.

O DI MARIA

If half of Argentina has Italian roots then why does nobody speak Italian?
Imagine being such a cuck that you don't even teach your kids your native language

I have a lot of polish friend born here and none of them speak polish, hmmmmmm

Milito looks like Rocky Balboa.