This is the incoming final

This is the incoming final
Can Ronaldo finally beat Messi in the Champions league or will Messi will do it for the third time and does a hattrick cucking of ronaldo after 2009 and 2011?

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Doesnt messi have 4? 06, 09, 11 and 15.

Either way, if this really is the final, the winner will settle the debate.

>06
lol

>08

Either way, realized that those are the years he cucked tsu. oops.

Barca aren't very good, but with messi its always possible. Although i think Juve are a better team.

barça are favorites and only close is manchester city, they spend a lot in their team and messi will be carrier like always if they win.

>barça are favorites
no they aren't

they are by bets, and they have a strong midfield, that wins games and always saves messi

The messidependance of Barca is reaching critical levels, if their youth midfield doesn't step up they're going to fade into irrelevancy once he retires. They also need to get rid of Valverde, this guy is a cancer.

They will be favorites because of fame, but they aren't as good as the teams in 11 or 15.

Its wide open this year though, no team is particularly great.

>the debate

what debate? messi won against ronaldo more often than the opposite

they'll meet before the final

>rakitic
>old vidal
>old busquets
>good midfield
lol

Arthur and Rakitic are nice, but Vidal is no hero, and Coutinho has been shit. Only decent players in barca are messi and dembele (sometimes)
No, they have too much money and fame from the messi era success. They can buy their way out, although its not their way.

I'm sorry, but Barcelona won't make it that far.

I think so too, but games like yesterday make you question it. I didnt watch the game, when i heard about the hattrick I said to myself "Got to admit, hes a legend. Maybe better than Messi"I then saw that it was not that special (2 meme headers and penalty lol) but still it makes you doubt. No one denies that Messi is better, but the argument is that Ronaldo is more 'clutch'. Which I think is bullshit, but if they face each other and messi wins, this meme argument can stop.

the front trio is dembele suares messi, not bad, and vidal champions league is suposed to be good, i think they are pretty legit, they can lost since valverde is shit.

>using head to head to judge players

those were always the most important games in the world

The most important game is the champions league final

In 3 of which Ronaldo has been garbage

Yeah and Messi’s team won Euro 08 WC 10 Euro 12 without him. I’d probably take them over Anderson, 37yo Giggs, Altintop and Lass Diarra.

I just realized Messi has never played Ronaldo in a CL final

how did the UEFA not rig this final already?

anderson fuck that guy, played for inter we ended in serie b, that virgin incel

user.... they did
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_UEFA_Champions_League_Final

Damn I forgot that one, anyway this proves Messi is better

the most import match head to head and Messi came out on top

And how many did he win?

2009 Champions league final was pretty important.

Now after 10 years, history will repeat itself.

2014,2016,2017 and 2018 were also important

100%, same as Messi.

always against choke artist teams

He beat who was in front of him

In 2015 CL, Messi won against the champion of France, the champion of Germany, and the champion of Italy.
Greatest CL accolade. Ever.

"He"
>Scores a penalty against Atleti when they are dead after Ramos goal and winning 3-1 in overtime.
>Scores the final penalty with the least pressure in the shootout after a draw with a Ramos goal in offside.
>Ok then.
>Bale is the undisputed star in the game, so he decides to say he's leaving to have all the attention just minutes after winning

>each of those teams were on their way to win a treble
based 2015 cl run

In 2018 CL, Ronaldo won against the champion of France, the champion of Germany, and the champion of Italy.
Greatest CL accolade. Ever.

>always against choke artist teams
yes because Arsenal06 Manure2011 and Juve2015 weren't choke artists lmao

>the refballs seen around the world
ah yes, those ''''''''''victories''''''' LMAO
pls we are having a serious conversation here
go be a pestering gypsy somewhere else

>we are having a serious conversation here
>but dont mention Uefalona or I'm gonna chimp out

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man city and juve are favored over barca by bookmakers.

we're talking about finals here sweetie

arsenal and jewe were refballs

The >REST OF THE TEAM DOESN'T MATTER IN 1V1 MATCHES posters are truly cancer.

Lads, I'm scared for buffon. What will he do when Juve win it?

Barcelona played Arsenal in the 2006 Champions League final
Barcelona played Manure twice in 2009 2011 Champions League finals
Barcelona played Juventus in the 2015 Champions League final

>we're talking about finals here sweetie
pretending to be retarded should be a banable offense

Poop.

>la liga games were always the most important games in the world
kek

this is Messi's only legacy: 10 penalties and 10 tap-ins in el clasicos carried by Xavi

messis legacy is for a brief period he was toe to toe with Ronaldo before the latter eclipsed him, which sounds ridiculous but no small feat. He will be remembered as one of the best scorers of the game, on par with the Eusebios and Mullers. The Evisceratior of Eibar

clasicos, deal with it

Messi will cuck Ronaldo again. Besides that Copa del Rey final in 2011 Ronaldo has never beat Messi on a final or a playoff in general, and Casillas won that game with an amazing performance. Cope already.

copa americas, deal with it

>3 UCLs (+1 as a benchwarmer) vs 5
>Ronaldo is the greatest all time performer in the knockout stages
>but Messi is the better player because his vastly superior team won
Messoi tards are not the brightest

Nobody gets as much refball as donaldo, infinite penalties and infinite offside goals

the world doesn't care about copas

They havent met in the CL since Ronaldo reached his final form desu. Messi was the better player in the era where they faced off often.

Messi is leading in head-to-head match-ups so Penaldo will choke again

>barça not getting knocked out by lyon

yeah, no

>this is Messi's only legacy
Being better than Penaldo at everything?

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the refball form?

>I just realized Messi has never played Ronaldo in a CL final
Wow this place really is full of teenagers these days

If Higuain was as clutch as Eder, Bale, Messi would've won both the world cup and the copa, you know that perfectly well.

Its one thing if Messi missed those shots, but you're blaming him for other failures too.

You think they would ever truly give him credit even if he won the copa? They'd just call it a mickey mouse cup

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because both have already advanced

>good midfield
Messi is carrying that team all by himself

kek you now remember Messi cucking Donaldo and Madrid magically never meet Barca again despite both clubs always advance to QF

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Yeah Madrid's record against Barca in the UCL is horrendous

I seriously don't, that's some ancient shit right there

how is it not missis failure not scoring penalties in the crucial moments though?