10-2

How many teams?

Fuck off, that would be boring.

>conceding as many goals over two legs against man city as burton albion did
Just >schalke things

this

Bundesliga should be reduced to 2 places
give one to Italy and France

>Having to play European teams every week

Scared you would finish bottom are we Madrista?

Faggot

Bayern beat Arsenal 10-2 a few years ago. Did you start the same thread then?

kill yourself faggot

Hoffenheim did ok against City. Schalke are just in awful shape this season, much like Monaco.

Leagues are boring though, he's right. And you don't get the sort of matches we seen tonight in Turin or last week in Paris.

You literally do

Don't put the portuguese and russian champions in the first pot
I mean if you want to change things, for me it's fine as it is, league champions deserve seeding more than teams like Napoli and Tottenham who never win anything

t. Farmers

>1-7 in WC semis
I agree OP, Brazil shouldn't be allowed to participate in WC ever again

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Change it to a WORLD LEAGUE

But it's >Schalke

SECOND GROUP STAGE

>give one to Italy and France
>France
No comment.
>Italy
You're asking for teams like Atalanta and Lazio to just get murdered even more.

>a knockout competition is the same as a league
Are you Welsh?

Multiball!

It just shows that German football is on its knees.

Notwithstanding that >schalke obviously wasn't supposed to be there this year, but games like these can happen. Remember when Bayern btfo'd barca or Arsenal? Nodody would try to make such an argument in those cases

Not what I said is it

>32 teams
>two legs, home and away
>len(list(itertools.combinations(range(0, 32), 2))) * 2
>992
992 CL matches, nice

You didn't have to. You simply do not get games like tonight in a league match because the consequences are 'fatal' in terms of progress.

EPL and La Liga don't have a BUYERN WINS LOL complex though.
Not saying I agree with him, but it's kind the feeling people get when they see German teams that are not Bayern Munchen.

But you literally do as draws and losses can be fatal in a league too

>russia
Lazio and Atalanta are better than Scheiss

Wrong.

And there's no excitement and thrill like you get in these knock out games. Leagues are a dull procession.

Agreed

The problem is How the groups were formed.
You had Liverpool, PSG and Napoli in one group, Barcelona, Tottenham and Inter in other and a group with Porto, Schalke, Galatasaray and Lokomotiv Moscow

>19 + 2000
>euros still haven't taken the playoff pill
the CL, WC, and euros are vastly more entertaining than the >team a beats team b team c wins bullshit

>whoosh

Speak for yourself, there's literally 1pt in the league this year, and might be closer if half the league wasn't small town shite teams

CL should be league winners only

David Luiz has got to be the biggest faggot in Brazilian football

Are you trying to say a club with a rich history like Man City shouldn't be dominating literally who teams from wherever they're from?
Grow up, grandpa - it's not the 2000s anymore.

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Unironically a good idea

Oh wow one point and endless dull af matches from August to May.

A league is exactly what the money-grabbing UEFA Jews and the plastic fans want.

kys jew

We had it, remember? It was called European Cup. Then they realized they could make money letting every shitter in and that's where we are.

t. La Liga salesman

Tbf, you had stupid results in the EC too.

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>Reduce the Krauts to two CL
Getting into CL is the only way for German clubs to make any money as they don't have Arab sugar daddies

Invicta's Brave Gonçalo Paciência

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you'd still have the same problem where a team like juve or city get a group with the winners of like russia turkey and belgium

Sure, but that was the early stages. All that matters is the knockout stage. Juventus could very well play 3 finals to get to the actual final, if City gets Porto and then Ajax they practically went straight to the final from the group stage.

It wasn't just in the early stages at all though.
Stop posting shit.

Post Bosman football is just American style entertainment anyway, pretending it's a fair sporting competition is window dressing. At least Americans are honest about it while FIFA is keeping this sham up.

Bring back the second group stage.

no it just shows that Fährmann is trash

For me, it's Grasshopper.

>Serie A
Juventus
Napoli

>La Liga
Barcelona
Atletico

>Bundesliga
Bayern Munich

>EPL
City
Liverpool
Tottenham
Arsenal
ManU
Chelsea
Wolves
Watford
West Ham
Leicester City

6 Premier League CL places.
5 La Liga places
3 Serie A places
2 Bundesliga places

Simple as.

>6 Premier League CL places.
arsenal can't even beat rennes, fuck of

based and redpilled

>he thinks rennes will qualify

Lad...

They aren't getting fucked by Arabian/Russian sugar daddies though

MultiPaul Mitchell
Clones of the jobless 27 year old released on to the field of play to sucker punch "knobs".

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ban Manchester Abu Dhabi and QSG from European tournament. permanent transfer ban for Halal and Barca.

Sugar daddies are literally the only reason Chelsea and MCI aren't jokes tho?

Is this satire?

>you now know Schalke is somehow the 15th most valuable divegrass team in the world, ahead of both AC and Inter Milan

How the fuck

Tbf, it's true of a fair few teams. Liverpool are only a thing today because they were bankrolled by the Moores. Man Utd managed to outspend their rivals and dominate English football because of their owners in the 90s.

The only real way a club in England can compete and establish themselves as competitors is with sugar daddies. In fact it's probably true of most clubs in Europe now.

UNSEEDED STRAIGHT KNOCKOUT

>moar lolbuyernwins

Isn't Schalke a 16th rank shitter 4 points away from the first relegated?
City literally has 100 points, every year. Twice of what the 7th has.

Why was they even playing in the same competition?

Schalke unironically finished 2nd in the Bundesliga last season, albeit something like 21 points off the top.

>Something something toilet
>Something something designated street
>Something something wipe with the left palm

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>Schalke finished 2nd in the Bundesliga last season
can't be true.
I don't follow Bundes liga at all, but if that's true what a fucking farmer league it is and Bayern is playing in a one-team league, Dortmund is exactly the same as Schalke and all the other 15 teams of Bundes.
Maybe they should only have 1 CL seed.
And Netherland 2 fixed, instead of 1 to go to the pre-qualifications.

Bundes seems to be in a bit of a crisis at the moment as Bayern are way out ahead of the rest of the pack and the league is made up of inconsistent shitters
Dortmund have had a decent season so far but it looks like they've blown the league despite having a seven point advantage over BM a few weeks back.

Epl is also inconsistent, with one or two leaders way out ahead of the rest of the pack. The difference is that bundes are inconsitent every month. Epl takes more time than 15 days to become inconsistent.
It's really pathetic, puts you off following the fooball. Point of watching a nigger and a millionaire who doesn't know how to read, being inconsistent everytime he wakes up in the morning, just to get that fucking Allah or John McCoy Oil magnats CEOs win another few millions this year?

What a terrible post.
Do you know what "inconsistent" means?

City lost twice to Lyon this year, then beats Schalke 7-0.
I'd say Bundes is consitent in being shit. Except for Bayern, none of their teams is any good.
Epl is just inconsistent overall.

You got the intelligent of a fly. Every competitive teams were bankrolled by sugar daddies at some point in their history. Every single one of them .

A league would establish who is really the best, since these knckout tournaments are about luck and momentum instead of actual quality and consistency

>Epl is just inconsistent overall.
What do you think this means?

What do you think I meant here when I said "the Bundesliga is made up of inconsistent shitters"

Yes it would.
However the logistics of it are a mind fuck unless they spread it out over two seasons, which won't happen, or teams abandon their national leagues, which may happen, but will very likely ruin them.

>crisis
>consistency
Are you retarded? A crisis is by definition an anormal state of being.
But Bundes is NOT in crisis. They're just consistently shit. It's not new.
Your post was stupid because it said 'crisis' and then "consistent shitters"
Can you be any more two-faced and paradoxal?

>Can you be any more two-faced and paradoxal?
I suppose it would help if you actually understood words because clearly you don't. Case in point.
>"consistent shitters"
No. I said "inconsistent shitters". You thick nigger.

Furthermore, you claimed you don't even follow the Bundesliga at all, so what the fuck would you know, you utter garlic-breathed cunt?

It wont happen, too much money in this format. Just tired of these faggots who dont really watch football apart from these quick tournaments and praise the cl as the best

Then you're just wrong. Bundes has never been good. It's not a crisis.

>you claimed you don't even follow the Bundesliga at all
Because I don't need to. I know what they are, I don't need to watch them.
Fucking Souf cunt you sound fat

it's all on Schalke , they completely collapsed from 2nd in the bundes to fighting relegation this season

Arsenal are worse than Schalke and Buyern are better than City (or were at the time). Not any more.

you are like those libfags who want to change everything because of one anomaly. fuck you mehmed

Difference is, mate, in the 90's, getting £14,000 a week and a years supply of shaving cream was considered decent. Now if you're not getting £300,000 a week and £10m a year in sponsorship deals, you're nobody. If you're claiming that the likes of Chelsea, Madrid and City (and United I guess) didn't change the landscape of football then, well, you're either retarded, shitposting or ignorant.

Lions released on the pitch when the score is still 0-0 at 60 mins.

based Yugoslavia

epl teams only won it 4 times since 1985.
That's 34 years.

Bundes (and Ligue1) just didn't make the transition to sugar-daddies Sport like this smart guy said That's why they're shit nowadays. It's been difficult to compete since a few years now, against oil money teams
That's why only Bayner and PSG are good. The rest is just completely outdated.

is it some special behavior of itertools, or did you just calculate a 33-team league

>Europe
Capitalist Clubs
Communist Economies
>USA
Communist franchises
Capitalist Economy

That's my exact point.

no, its correct, second argument to range is non-inclusive

isn't it basically just (32-choose-2) * 2

>tfw the fucking Moors have his brother already

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I don't understand what are you about
line is correct, googled number of PL matches (380) and it checks out

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>Bundes has never been good.
UCL Final 13 was Dirtmund vs. Lolbuyernwins but kk.

But i grant you that ... we turned shit. This is not a crisis, this is now our modus operandi. Except buyern we have no good club. Dirtmund always let their best players go.

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TIL
i am pretty bad at maths

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Schalke and Dirtmund have both shit managers.
As soon as I noticed that I though it was finished.
What was the point of letting Klopp then Tuchel go? So other clubs can get better? Real smart this.

>Dirtmund always let their best players go.
yeah right, it's dirtmund's fault that dembelel and obama chimp out.

why? city is only good against the weak

Shitty steamrolled Chelshit 6-0 two weeks ago, are we just going to pretend that didn't happen?

We should revert back to the original way of the tournament with only the league winners being able to participate in an immediate knockout phase. Same for Europa League but then the cup winners. You restore the prestige of the Europa League as well then

For me its Milan's great win bye over fucking no one

>6 PL places

>So that the mighty arsenal can finish fucking 7th.

Either bring back the second group stage or make it so only champions can compete. I'd say the Domestic Cup Winner/Runner up if the winner wins the league should be allowed to enter.

Everyone else either fucks off or plays Europe League.

it used to be but it makes the competition weaker

2 of his brothers, actually

City didn't lose twice, frog

Nevermind, I'm retarded. It's both Conceição's and Paciência's sons.

Arsenal lost by the same aggregate score not too long ago. Blowouts can and will happen in knockout stages. Deal with it fagets.

For me, it's Kuusysi

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This.

Have a point cap system in place so that 53 points' runners up can't play the CL.
You need 75 points at least.

so you need to play in a farmers league with only two good teams?

Literally Eredivisie

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>schalke

Hummels, Lewandowski, götze, gündogan, mkytharian

kys cocksucker

Now we can watch arsenal lose 10-2 to a german club instead of a german club lose 10-2 to an English club!

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You see, guys, Arsenal and Schalke 10-2 do quite badly in Europe.

>Bundes has never been good.
Ah, if I known you were a clueless retard I wouldn't have bothered trying to explain shit to you in the first place.

Schalke is among the worst teams in Europe right now, their form is abysmal.

FA Cup style draw
Current system just puts it on easy mode for established teams

Post like these are why I keep coming back to Yea Forums. Literally LMAOROFLING.

this is the CL we are talking about dumb amerilard

it would be even worse
>less good teams
>more shit teams
can't wait for Barça/Juve/City/PSG/Bayern to btfo the champions of Switzerland and Romania every season

>the champions of Switzerland and Romania every season
instead we get the ludogorets, steauas and malmos
same shit

Yeah but you get less of them and usually are all out after the groups stages, plus you get more good team right now.
Having only champions and a 32 teams CL right now would mean having these teams
You are essentily trading your Reals and your Liverpools with your Grasshoppers and your Malmoes

Autistic people should be put out of thr misery

>32 teams
8 teams getting 1 from each league
>italy
>england
>spain
>france
>portugal
>netherlands
>catalonia
>germany
proper champions league:
>everybody plays everybody
>home and away games
>14 games total
current cl has 13 games total counting groups and final

Stop giving away free group stage spots to anyone but the winner teams

>Catalonia
lmao

may as well not have the groups, they're boring as fuck and the same teams normally get to the last 8 or semis anyway

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That sounds boring as shit tbqh
Seeing Barcelona - Liverpool every year wouldn't be interesting.

CL is fine as it is. These past 3-4 years were quite possibly the worst in the competition's history, you don't need any more teams from big leagues.

if you're so tough why would you need more chances ?

lol just multiply 16 (num of matches in round) times 62 (num of rounds)
>Yea Forums scientists

1st round
>22 shitters made up of poverty league winners, runners up from >watch our league etc and 3rd place teams of top leagues. Put in a qualifying round beforehand to narrow this down

2nd Round
>big 5 runners up
>winners from Portugal, Netherlands, Ukraine, Russia, Turkey, Belgium
>11 winners from last round

Last 16
>big 5 league winners
>11 winners from last round

How is this better than what we have now? There are just less good teams and more repetitive games

>That sounds boring as shit tbqh
keep in mind we only get the winner of each league so there may be quite a few changes from season to season
also, very easy to add more teams for more countries to a league format
>CL is fine as it is
it's rigged shit

>for whoever finishes last, their nation is relegated and replaced by next best performing nation in uefa cup

>less good teams
but the total of 'games between good teams' wouldn't be less since they all play each other
>more repetitive games
nope, what we have now is exactly the same: home and away game except in the final, which the league format doesn't have
it would be a proper champions league, better than the current rigged draws and refballs

last 2 spots relegated
best performing gets promoted
end of season 4 nation tourney to see which other nation gets promoted

Crying when Atletico once again became Ronaldos bitch.

Bundesliga is a mediocre league with a lot of spots this is what happens when they face an actual team.

you're retarded

what do you mean? roma got defeated by porto

The league were the winning club is from gets an additional spot for the next season

That's already the case

Is it?

Each team agrees to concede a goal at the start of the game. Ends 1-1.

Remove cards, bring back murderball

As long as there's no play-offs I'd welcome it. Cups are a bad format because the winner is often decided by luck due to some flukes or bad refereeing. In a League, even if you get unlucky in one game, you can still win it as long as you play well enough to keep gaining points. It is a much better format determining the best team. In general, UEFA needs to stick it with their FFP, hopefully big clubs will tell them to fuck off with their super league one day.
I also have high hopes for MLS since a proper league should have all 20 teams competing for the title and no one except the USA has enough big cities to support that.