Beckham

was he really the big player who ppl says he was? I know people who say that he is top 3 in history, GEOAT (greatest english) but from what I read about his career he was not the best in the world, not even in his peak.
Serious thread, when I started watching football he was in the shit league of the USA, so I did not see him in his peak.

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lol who says he is top 3 in history? even Beckham fans wouldnt admit he is top 3. pushing it at top 10 desu.

he was a very, very good footballer with goat free kicks

>ran like a (slow) dog
>Best striker of a dead ball the game has seen
>Otherwise meh

Yesterday I was watching a video of him and one guy said he was better than Pele and Maradona

Oh and crosses of course. Dude could whip a cross in

He's overrated by football casuals but underrated by football hipsters. Was a top player in his position at his peak, though never the best player in the world or anything. His overrated status was very much based upon being well marketed outside of football, and his underrated status was born primarily as backlash against this.

That's bollocks

At the time he wouldn't of made the world xi but maybe on the bench.

>he was not the best in the world, not even in his peak
correct. probably the best at crossing I've ever seen, and very good from dead balls too, but got a lot more hype than truly deserved

>being so much of a fucking zoomer you have to watch youtube videos about david beckham

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Overrated as fuck, he wasn't a bad, in 1999 only Rivaldo was better than him, but still, he was overrated due to his sex appeal
He maybe not even be top10 english players of all time, Shearer was 3 times the player he was

What's the problem? I need YouTube to see games of the past

>Shearer was 3 times the player he was
Patrician post

>Shearer was 3 times the player he was

how can you compare beckham to shearer lol, completely different sort of players

Glorified Ozil.

This and this
Set piece master with the best cross ive ever seen.
Nothing more.

>I know people who say that he is top 3 in history

Stop hanging out in mental hospitals m8

>I know people who say that he is top 3 in history

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I'm saying he is not one of the best anglo players of all time and said an example of an english player that was better than him.
If you want a winger, Stanley Matthews was better than him as well

he was from a breed of english midfielders that were hollywood pass merchants like scholes and gerrard
he was good at passing, crossing, and free kicks

Fucking Sterling is better than him m8

Top 50 would be more realistic.

literally a one trick pony

Calling Slippy a Hollywood pass merchant is overrating him

Based boomer

Why didn't LeTissier play for England, was he that lazy?

No gays allowed.

How come Le Saux played then

He was bi

He's a Chelsea left back, they are all poofters.

He played 8 times.
He couldn't tackle like Ince or batty

"In the run-up to the 1998 FIFA World Cup, Le Tissier scored a hat-trick in a 4–1 victory for England against Russia at Loftus Road;[27] despite this, he was controversially overlooked by manager Glenn Hoddle for the final squad, a decision that the player himself cited as a turning point in his career after which his form never fully recovered"

A bit racist innit

Jersey isn't a race pal

We wanted thick set lads who would kick foreigners in the shins and run through brick walls for the manager, not players with actual ability.

>counting b team caps

He played 2 friendlies

Based english hoofball system. Fucking foreigners ruined everything

Cringe, beautiful football is the best football.

Not what wiki says. 6 B team. 8 full. He came on as a sub a bit iirc

Well said m8. Couldn't agree more.

My Grandad said Matthews was a one trick meme merchant

That's Le Saux
Le Tiss was the not-gay one from Guernsey

>Le Tissier scored a hat-trick in a 4–1 victory
Scored three, yeah, but did he put a shuftin? Was he tracking back? Did he let any Russian lads "know he was there"?

Absolute patrician taste from the Brazilian

Really narks me off that he could have played for any UK country at international level, and he ended up choosing the one country that didn't want him

>GEOAT (greatest english)
No, that would be Gascoigne.

>goat free kicks
le greece fk

Spain knows

Guernsey is closest to England isn't It?

>Football coach always used to say "let em know you're there" before games
>Encouraged us to violently foul opposition players in the opening stages of the game
>Got mad when half the team was booked at half time
Fucking boomers man

Yes, but because they don't have their own footballing body, anyone born there, or on any of the Channel Islands for that matter, can play for any of the nations

>"He was a fat lad... but he could *pass* the ball."

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His work ethic was top 3 indeed.

No he couldn't have.

It went left when they didn't give Clough the NT job. We're still not over the damage done in the late 70s and 80s. Fucking dinosaurs.

Im Abu but I fucking live becks for that. He got shit on by everyone after 98. In redponse he shaved his head and ran his nuts off for England for 10 years

Stop posting bollocks

>ran his nuts off for England for 10 years
Like fuck he did. Why do you zoomers lie all the time?

Beckham peaked for England with that fk against Greece and has dined out on it for nearly 20 years now.

He's right though. Put The Reducer in. All that crap

I'm 39 you spaz. I'm not saying he was great, but he ran around a lot

No he isn't

eh? What?

OK chief...

>I'm 39
>he ran around a lot
Absolutely tragic

Go to bed son

Piss off gramps, you sad old git.

You're irked I schooled you, right?

One thing I have to admit about Beckham. He was good to popularize the sport, as he did in USA as a near retired player
I had a friend that liked to collect mangas and I saw some mentions of him in some of these mangas, japs could talk about every player but was always Beckham
(This was in 2002, japanese were excited for the WC)

He also had a fit wife.

Who he cheated on with a pig wanker, kek

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Schooled? On what?

He was just the best looking chad who was fucking a spice girl in the most famous football team of all time.

Posh was never fit

Beckham's work ethic.

Solid 9.5

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>most famous football team of all time
i know brazil have been shit for a while but come on lol

>running around like a headless chicken is work ethic
Deary me. What a clueless tit you are.

If that one trick works every time, what's the issue?
Robben is also one of the best wingers of all time, and a one trick meme merchant who happens to have speed and a good shot as well as his one trick.

>If you want a winger, Stanley Matthews was better than him as well
How the fuck would you know?

>"Putting in a lot of effort isn't effort, idiot"

Out of curiosity, how old are you and how long you been watching england matches?

Matthews was alright, but could he do it on wet Tuesday night in Stoke?

Cringing at what a clown you are
>le effort
>le run around a lot

Long enough to know that Beckham peaked for England in 2001 and was dog shit from then onwards for England, particularly in competition finals.

Cringing at what a clown you are
>le effort
>le run around a lot

>Long enough to know that Beckham peaked for England in 2001 and was dog shit from then onwards for England, particularly in competition finals.
Lol. 2009?

Running around a lot is pretty much the definition of effort on a football pitch.

What??

Nice digits. I'm off to write my diary boss. Have a good night.

Buh bye fella.

Today they would have used him as a deep lying playmaker. Just too slow for a winger.

>one guy said it

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He deserved the Balon d'Or in 1999; Rivaldo is a meme

he's simultaneously overrated and underrated by different groups of people

he was a very good footballer

no

Unironically this

>one La Liga title with decent goalscoring numbers
>the best player on a treble winning side
Yes

Used to rate him until I found out he was a kike.

he was never the best player on his team, how would he be 3 all time?

meme player, good crosser of the ball, nobody remembers the 900000 free kicks he skied into row z.

Le cut inside man is a literal meme but it works. Mahrez does the same thing today to a lesser extent.

Beckham living in people head rent free

>decent goalscoring numbers
24 league goals was exceptional in '99 and was one behind Raul for the Pichichi. And not only are you ignoring the fact he was undoubtedly the best player in the Europe in that year, he also won the Cope America and was the best player in that too.

Best you clue yourself up.

>was one behind Raul for the Pichichi.
So he wasn't even the best goalscorer in his own fucking league?
>Copa America
Nothing compared to the champions league

He wasn't an out-and-out striker, you pleb.

Also, Beckham wasn't Man U's best player that season either. It was Jaap Stam.

>So he wasn't even the best goalscorer in his own fucking league?
Neither was Beckham, and Rivaldo wasn't a striker either.

>Nothing compared to the champions league
Whether you think it is or not is irrelevant and stupid. Ballon d'Or is for the best player in a year and in 1999 that was Rivaldo.

Your entire argument is Yank-tier retardedness.

Rivaldo was never even close to the best player in the world

He was in 1999. Without a doubt. No one came close to him that year.

He was in 1999. A time were these individual honors were judged by the individual not the collective

Anybody under the right circumstances can score goals against Valladolid and Paraguay; who gives a shit?

The fact your argument is crumbling and being ripped apart and all you can resort to is meme responses I think shows what a shit troll you are.
I genuinely feel embarrassed for people like you in these threads.

>argument is crumbling
He statpadding in La Liga. He won Copa America with the most stacked team. That does not make you the best player in the world

t.zoomer
Rivaldo played less games but scored and assisted more than Beckham in 1999. Carried Barcelona, and also had a top tier performance in a continental Cup.
Beckham won the treble because Man Utd were a better team than Barcelona
>and Paraguay
That looks like being the best player in a continental cup is easy. Beckham never could.

It says a lot that you cannot actually argue your initial point that Beckham deserved the b'Or, instead it's just about trying to undermine Rivaldo with infantile meme buzzphrases, the exact sort of behaviour that you would expect from the gypsy shitposter

closer to france desu

savage

Can't you faggots get through one thread without screeching at each other. So much bitterness and hate I'm fucking sick of it.

>He statpadding in La Liga.
>He won Copa America with the most stacked team.
>That does not make you the best player in the world
What does? Doing it on a rainy evening in Stoke?

In 98 99 Real Madrid had a better team than Barcelona. Madrid had players like Roberto Carlos, Hierro, Redondo, Raul, Mijatovic, Suker, Seedorf, Karembeu, Sávio, Morientes...all players of Real. Barça had Rivaldo, Kluivert and Figo as stars plus Luis Enrique, Guardiola, Cocu, Giovanni and Anderson.
Winning La Liga was impressive as Rivaldo was the big man of FCB in La Liga.

In UCL Barcelona had a though group, with Bayern and United (the future finalists) and couldnt make It. Rivaldo scored 3 goals (2 against Man Utd), Beckham scored 2 goals in group stage. Cool to remember that United was a team with Scholes, Yorke, Andy Cole, Roy Keane, Sheringham, Solskjaer, Giggs, Stam, and one of the best goalkeepers I saw in my life : Schmeichel.
United were the best team in Europe at all, much better than Barcelona

I don't want to write much about Copa América because I don't want to make It a wall text, but he didn't score against paraguay. He scored two against Uruguay in the final, 1 against Argentina in QF, 1 against Mexico in SF and 1 against Venezuela in group stage

He was never even the best player on the pitch

Then leave. You won't be missed.

on his team. maybe some FA Cup match at one point but not in a real game with stakes

ha ha jokes on you fag I'm going nowhere. fuck you

See ya, lad

Specialist, but unironically based at his specialty (his dead balls were truly iconic)

Also the only Manure player in recent memory I actually like (Mou is also the only Manure manager I like, though I still think of him as a Chelsea manager)

> (his dead balls were truly iconic)
Except for penalties and most of his freekicks

wow someone was wrong on the internet

Becks had his moments.

I was 13 yo and remember that Real - MU tie in the CL 02/03 I think, which was before Beckham transferred to Real. He came as a sub and scored a free kick, it was his first or second touch too.
He also scored that crucial dying minutes FK vs Greece to qualify England to something. He also provided both assists in injury time in that 99 CL final, but that I didn't see as I was too young and learned about later.

I am probably gonna sound like a boomer, but I am yet to see for example Messi to deliver something like that under pressure when the whole world holds its breath.

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He was basically the white Nobby Solano. Slow, incredible right foot and capable of changing a game with a magic cross but quite easy to push off the ball.

He'd make an all time England WC squad but Top3 is silly.

He didn't shave his head until 2002

>Nobby Solano
Are u a Newcastle fan?

I think United played a game suited to his style. Very wide and tactical. He was great crosser and great free kick taker. And United relied on that a lot back when he was there and it made him look better then he was

>I am yet to see for example Messi to deliver something like that under pressure when the whole world holds its breath
Not the 09 CL final?

Fucking zoomer who don't remember England vs Portugal in the 2000 European Championship group stage.

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Beckham has logo potential whether Brits like it or not.

He was okay. Imo he famous, because he was the first football player, who used media to became a celeb footballer.

He could reach his maximum potential if he listen to Fergie and more focus with football than wasting his time to become celebrity with his bloody wife.

CR7 listen to everything what Fergie said to him and look at him now.

It'd be weird if I wasn't. I still maintain that Nobby had one of the sweetest right feet in the game, but his passing skill was wasted on our shitters and he wasn't good enough all round as a player to make it in a better team.

Well he was but that's because Pele and Maradona are overrated shtiters.

Known for one miss despite actually having a great penalty record.

Lingard is in the top3 of all time, not Beckham tho

OFFICIAL UNDERAPPRECIATED ENGLAND TALENTS OF ALL TIME POWER RANKINGS
1. Paul Gascoigne
2. Matt Le Tissier
3. David Brooks since we let Wales cap him first
4. Glenn Hoddle
5. Tony Currie
6. Steve McManaman
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9001. David Beckham
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90001. le pacey black winger #s 1 to 476 excluding John Barnes
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9000000000000001. Francis Jeffers
9000000000000002. Michael Ricketts