Is it happening or not? Can’t wait for the Brabant derby between PSV and Anderlecht.
Is it happening or not? Can’t wait for the Brabant derby between PSV and Anderlecht
based beneluxians
Pls count us in
>two fucking nations can merge their leagues
>scotland and england can't merge theirs
Why are they even bothering being separate countries anymore?
DUDE
>can't
It's more that we absolutely DON'T WANT TO!
Please Spain accept us
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Atletico Madrid
Sevilla
Valencia
Benfica
Porto
Real Betis
Real Sociedad
Athletic Bilbao
Espanyol
Celta Vigo
Villarreal
Malaga
Mallorca
Granada
Osasuna
Deportivo La Coruna
Sporting
Braga
Based. Nordic countries next!
IBERIAN LEAGUE
2nd division
Hueca, Rayo Vallecano, Levante, Girona, Getafe, Eibar, Leganes, etcccc... 3 get the promotion
from the portuguese 2nd division 1 gets promoted
we already tried, it was boring af
Na the Portuguese league is comfy as, why would you wanna ruin it?
The only cross boards leagues I wanna see is the old Yugoslavian League back, and a brand new Turkish/Kurdish/Armenian/Georgian superleage. That would be...fun
>tfw ill see a scandinavian league in my lifetime
>tfw my city will be filled to the brim with malmö pakis
im scared lads
no it's not, it' shit. Only the big three and Braga are competitive. In the Spanish league our big lubs would get bigger, and even the smaller ones, the Guimaraes, Maritimo, Boavita, would benefit from the exposure and money once they reached the 1st division for 2/3 years.
royal league was hardly a try tbqh
also I want to see Sporting get relegated in my lifetime
I don't see how this will benefit us. No Dutch player in their right mind is going to want to go to a Belgian team, while every Belgian player will come to us, since we are an excellent jumping off point to the rest of Europe.
lol, you are equivalent
it's not happening
it's been talked about for years but no one in the netherlands gives a shit
Wowee a Luxembourg. Say hi to Bob Jungels for us!
How many dead the first game?
yeah like why would we want the fucking SCOTS in OUR league? spewing the old firm into england is just an absolutely horrid idea
The big clubs would benefit. The smaller ones wouldn't. The spanish tv money drops to shit after the top ten and the second division is horrific money wise.
When was the last time a Belgian team made it past the group phase?
Anderlecht was in europa semi final not long ago and our league gave just as much talent to the world than yours in the last 10 years
I don't care for the money that much, I just want to have big games every week
because reasons
hyperlol
Club Brugge heeft 4 hollanders
2015
Two separate monarchies.
Unification of the Netherlands could occur through marriage in the next generation.
Don’t underestimate Dudelange
>Holland heeft geen Marokaantjes
Where’s Las Palmas though?
It'd be a much more competitive league with a better overall standard, reducing the number of top players leaving. Even if you don't rate the Belgian league look at it this way, you'd be replacing the bottom half Dutch clubs with top half Belgian clubs capable of putting up a fight.
in the segunda
Royal League will never happen because we Nords are retarded socialists.
Las Palmas belongs in the first division
Valt mee als je het vergelijkt met Brussel.
Ik wil best fuseren met België, maar dan moeten we wel een muur om Brussel bouwen en de stad in de hens steken.
Rotterdam is net zo erg en Den Haag is niet veel beter.
I take it it'd be a Benelux top league with regional leagues below, or will they just fully merge all the way down the divisions?
we hebben iig geen massale rellen of grote terreur. geen molenbeekjes hier, het is meer verspreid. divide and contain, zeg maar
Can we join? Belgians surely like Young Boys.
I'd rather play NAC than Gent no thanks
>Braga
jejeje
When Greece + Macedonian league?
Was thinking about combining national teams too but then it would probably just be belgium + de ligt.
>tfw no more Benfica away games where the opposite team's fans support Benfica
>super league
>belgium and netherlands
>can’t
>check Belgian league
>Anderlecht are 6th
What happened? And where would the best Belgian clubs rank in the eredivisie?
this, but seperate belgium and make brussels dutch again
4th behind ajax, psv, and feyenoord
>Celtic and Rangers struggling for midtable in the premiership
>Hearts, Hibs and Aberdeen struggling to stay in the championship
>Rest of the Scottish league becomes completely irrelevant
Nobody wants the merge in Scotland, and English fans of low level prem teams don't want the extra threat from the Old Firm
how would this work for UCL and UEL spots? just shared spots, and if you're countries club makes it, they make it, if not, to bad?
Celtic and Rangers could actually become massive clubs if they joined the premier league. Huge fanbase + premier league money = success
why do you assholes always think that? ya they'll make money in their first season, AFTER the season. but they'll be relegated by then.
I moved to Belgium for work a couple years ago. This idea is ridiculous and would frustrate the based Dutchies. Why? Belgian football is all about physical anti football and not about the beautiful fluid game. You've got your Kara's, your Bronns, your Yatabarés. Strong niggers who just break up the game and don't care about nice football and did I mention 70% of footballers in Belgium are black. It wouldn't work and no sane dutch person should support this ridiculous idea and managers in Belgium still have to wear a red ribbon around their arms like circus monkeys and fuck Belgium and long live Luxembourg and Denmark
There is only one real country and that’s Brabant. Netherlands and Belgium are fake political constructs.
Ajax need the TV money.
Problem is their fanbase cannot be trusted not to chimp out and spread their religious violence across England. Look at every time either of the ugly sisters have come down south, they attack children and smash up local shops.
They almost definitely wouldn't get relegated, they'd shit on the bottom 5
Actually my friend I believe a lot of mediocre Dutch players will get a chance to go to a top Belgian club because of the quality difference and be on better wages and have a chance to win silverwear even though it would only be the belgian mickey mouse cup
Case in point: Vormer who would be a water carrier at even NAC but is the best player in Belgium lmao
Who will buy tv rights to see this:
Ajax 7 - Gent 0
PSV 12 - Standard 2
Are you saying that the football would turn to shit, or that Dutch people don't like black defensive midfielders?
I'd like to see the merge just for keks, but doubt it would make Dutch/Belgian teams more relevant desu. Ajax would still be the only one that does decent in the CL and the rest is Europe League tier. Incomes would be higher but not by a huge amount, broadcasting income is not suddenly going to double. And the biggest problem is still that even with money (which Ajax for example has plenty of) it's still incredibly hard to attract good players to a league like ours.
However, if the BeNe league could somehow get to the top 6 on the UEFA coefficients and get 3 CL spots, it could get interesting.
3rd after Ajax/PSV probably
Belgium has a lot more clubs on the level of Feyenoord/AZ though, that's why they do pretty well in the Europa League usually
Say what you want about the Eredivisie but one thing is it's entertaining. Belgium football is like this:
>Two defensive minded managers trying to not lose
>A midfield of niggers trying to flying tiger kick anyone in their path
>Small stadiums
>Old stadiums
>Cringy fans
The tv money would go down as less Dutch people tune in to watch this garbage
Like saying who wanna see Barcelona - Rayo 8-0. Ajax need your belgian money. Just be a good goy and help bring back football to Greater Brabant.
Evertonian detected.
Celtic would still dab on plumbers like Cardiff, Huddersfield, Burnley, Fulham and Brighton. That alone would be enough to at least guarantee survival for the first season
They'd have to join from at best the National League North and work their way up. That's a minimum of 5 seasons they'd have to go without a major riot incident and I can't see that happening.
I literally know nothing about either league, thanks for clarifying.
Less cannabalism would be a good thing for Ajax. Brugge have two teams in Belgian league for instance. That wouldn’t be the case if Greater Brabant formes a league.
We should let in all the non-old firm clubs
What about cross-border super reich?
Keep the national cups, EL place for them, that way each country is still guaranteed at least one European participant.
Tell that to Newcastle
Can't wait for such kino matches as Malmö - Copenhagen and AIK - Rosenborg desu. Can't come soon enough.
That will never happen in commie gay Scandinavia.
I'm more interested why they think they'll automatically join the Premier League and not start at level 7 or something
Based Luxenbro
There are a number of places they can start from.
National League North (6th division)
NPL West (8th division)
Northern League 2 (10th division)
Northern Alliance Div 2 (13th division)
North Northumberland League (14th division)
If they are unwilling to earn their place like everyone else then they can stay in their own league.
Literally based and will improve standards
I know the old firm won't let it happen but why Scotland have such tiny leagues in their divisions?
Surely a 20-22 team league is better?
Sounds exactly like Ligue 1, maybe Belgium should merge with us finally
Would be the only way for our leagues to stay relevant.
that i like!
lets do this, small leagues can make money by combining!
This is how Belgian and Dutch clubs would rank via 538's SPI ratings.
1. Ajax (84.9 SPI)
2. PSV (77.4)
3. Club Brugge (68.1)
4. Feyenoord (67.5)
5. AZ (63.0)
6. Genk (61.9)
7. Standard Liege (58.8)
8. Sint Truidense (55.5)
9. Gent (54.5)
10. Anderlecht (52.9)
11. Utretch (52.1)
12. Kortrijk (51.6)
13. Vitesse (50.4)
14. Heerenveen (50.0)
15. Mouscron (49.8)
16. Antwerp (49.1)
17. Groningen (46.6)
18. Charleroi (45.5)
-----(18 team cut off)------
19. Zulte Waregem (43.8)
20. Willem II (39.0)
21. Waasland Beveren (38.9)
22. Heracles (38.5)
23. Den Haag (36.8)
24. Oostende (36.0)
25. Eupen (35.9)
26. VVV (34.2)
27. Zwolle (34.1)
28. Cercle Brugge (33.8)
29. Fortuna Sittard (31.4)
30. Lokeren (31.3)
31. De Graafschap (30.7)
32. Excelsior (30.3)
33. Emmen (28.8)
34. Nac Breda (24.4)
Belgian League is a lot better than people realize. The power level of Dutch clubs drop by a lot after Ajax and PSV.
as I said, equivalent
9 of each in the 1st division, I'm asuming and Mouscron are Belgea
The quality of the Scottish Prem is already absolute shite. It would be even worse if you merged it with the second tier.
would be kino af, but we would have to increase the number of teams in the 1st league and therefore making it last too long
>twente not even 2nd tier
DELAY THIS PLAN AAAAAAAAAA
England refuse it because they know Celtic and Rangers will almost instantly take away Prem money from some nobody teams and within 10 years challenge for CL and Prem titles.
Twente is bigger than any Belgian club.
Most clubs below the second tier are semi-professional clubs so really there's only 20-30 pro teams in Scotland.
For their size, the best format would be;
>16 team Premiership (2 relegated)
>16 team Championship (2 promoted, 2 relegated)
-------- (non league)--------
>16 Highland, 16 Lowland League 1 (1 promoted from each, 2 relegated from each)
>16 Highland, 16 Lowland League 2 (2 promoted from each, no relegation unless teams go bust)
---------independent regional leagues below----
With either a proper winter break or switch to being a summer league. Also allow the 32 Scottish league clubs to enter the join a new British Cup that replaces the existing League Cups of each country, meaning extra Old Firm games to keep the TV execs happier.
Oh no what about FC Emmen??? Will someone please think of Venlo!
*extra competitive Old Firm games, like Celtic v Everton or Rangers v Leeds
I genuinely don’t see the difference between Belgian or Dutch midtable shitters
Anderlecht has more european cups than all dutch clubs put together minus ajax
Woah
Based intertoto cup winners
Different religions. Belgians even the Flemish part are or more exactly used to be catholic.
Catholicism has been the biggest religion in the Netherlands since the 70s or so.
Not that it matter much because they have like 0.1% church attendance
unironically this
>believing this is the main reason
Sort out your retarded sectarian nonsense and then you can apply to join the Northern Alliance and work your way up just like any other new members.
Cardiff joined the Second Division (now the Championship). Honestly I feel like Hearts, Aberdeen, etc. would benefit even more if they also joined, since they'd start way down and could enjoy actual competitive leagues for once.
>Cardiff joined the Second Division (now the Championship).
When Wales had no football league to speak of, unlike Scotland.
Just another retarded idea benefiting the top clubs. Anderlecht vs. PSV will always draw a bigger crowd and tv ad revenue than Emmen vs. PSV. Fuck off with these ideas already. Fuck off with the European superleague, fuck off with bundling leagues, fuck off with giving 4 countries 16 CL tickets.
Teams like Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs would be great additions to the Championship and would be competitive.
The real kino merge would be Greek and Turk league merge
Vitória de Guimarães should be in too. They're the only Portuguese teams besides the big three and Braga that actually has a big amount fans.
>Fellaini retiring
fuck , who are we gonna use to score headers against manlets now ?
>plan b is gone forever
Feels like shit
Mamá
Vitesse - Jeunesse d'Esch who wouldn't want to see that
Celtic could get plastic paddy bucks from America, they would probably become the go-to Yank football club actually. Rangers would be fuct.
This would be absolutely based. Actually, France should join too. That league/lower league would be fucking insanely cool.
Only problem is if Ajax had to play against like Bastia or something, that'd be a pain in the ass. But let's face it, it'd be 60% dutch, 20% belgian and 20% french most likely
The mighty Dal-Kurd will come back
Based
DJ g
Depends, do you means players or fans?
>Read it 'Dubs and belgian football associations in talks to create cross-boarder superleague'
check'em anyway
At least Rangers will be ready for it.
Visegrad League when?
How stupid is it that the unification of Spain and Portugal is called Iberia when the Ebro River never passes through Portugal?
The union between Aragon and Castille is the one that shouldve been called Iberia while the union with Portugal that Felipe II aranged is the only one that had the right to be called Spain.
Spain should rename itself Iberia leaving the name Spain for an hipothetical unification that spans through all Hispania
The real red pill isn't joining The Netherlands and Belgium into one country, it's splitting Belguim into two.
>yfw Flanders wins the World Cup
The winner gets to suck off the bundesliga winner?
PLOT TWIST: it's the Austrian bundesliga winner they have to suck off
Wish ex-soviet countries would all merge leagues again so we can just be done with Shakhtar and Dynamo Kiev or a Moscow team instead of 9000 shitters taking up european spots
American balkanization when?
Face it, California is culturally closer to Canada than to Texas and all the other Southern redneck states.
it won't happen
Any new type of league would have an equal tv income agreement and there is no way Ajax would give up their cash from the tv rights they get like 60% of the tv income atm
>DUDE wins the Benelux league
This needs to happen
Waffle constitution doesnt allow someone from the house of oranje nassau to be heir unfortunately
>big games
to you. once the novelty wears off, the Portuguese clubs would be huge in their own community, but not so much outside it and especially not to Barca/Real Madrid and even Atletico. You'd be a Sevilla +. And that's Benfica and maybe Porto.
Sporting has been so shit policy wise, I could see them get relegated easily within three seasons.
actually it's Friesland. Brabant is frankish trash
Iberia is just a meme name to not say Spain because dumbfucks get feels hurt.
It's like the equivalent of saying coloured man instead of negro.
I thought Iberia was the term used to describe the collective countries of Spain, Portugal, Gibraltar, Catalonia and Basque Country, rather than just 'Spain'?
Iberia was named by the greeks to the territory known now has Iberian peninsula
>the collective countries of Spain, Portugal, Gibraltar, Catalonia and Basque Country
based
>Catalonia and Basque Country
oh my, the propaganda is really getting to foreigners heads
you're a flaming pedant if I ever saw one