Messi is the best pl-

>Messi is the best pl-

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ayer

stats say otherwise

"score" =/= stat

scores are subjective

I find it hard to believe that there's a defensive scale in which Messi is a 3 and Ronaldo is a 24

Ronaldo actually tracks back. Messi just stands and watches

>attacking
A million more shots for like a dozen goals less?>possession
>defence
Ok, these are just bullshit, especially the former.

stats say ozil is a good midfielder

>New Zealand
>Messi
dropp'd

Because he is

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jfc, get a life dude, Messi lives in your head rent free 24/7 like trump lives in twitter soibois heads 24/7

cope

Stats say Klose is better then your Penaldo

What stats is that?

He tracks back rarely. And when he does, he's useless, like for that Godin goal.

post the link

>BCN
wat?

Aburres

post link

I dont watch soccer is Messi really that shit at defense?

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No, someone is just trying to wind people up.

>won't post link
yawn

>Messi
>Not shit at defense
All relevant information is displayed dumbass

>All relevant information is displayed dumbass
not how it works

What are the meme numbers on your pic?

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The world cup final; the game he tried the hardest in and still came up short. Using this as a representation of Messi is a lie

Messi 47 goals this season
Ronaldo 34 end of discussion

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Messi has 33 goals you fucking lair

Idk a lot of soccer but it seems to me that Ronaldo play in piss easy league

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How is that defense dumbass

He used to do that every week in La Liga and Champions League. He's slowing down now but I guess he's trying to manage his decline.

I hope you're talking about Ronaldo with that question.

We're judging Messi, not Ronaldo

You are baiting, right? Messi plays defense most of the time

Just write "messi defending" on youtube and there are dozens of +10 minutes videos, not many forwards track back that much

>10 minute videos
He plays upwards of 3000 minutes a season

>wont even provide link

as I already said, it's still much compared to other forwards

No it isn't. Maybe in 2011 but he doesn't play any defense any more. There's a reason why Valverde plays Rakitic so much; it's to cover for Messi

remember last season Ronaldo didnt have a tackle or interception in La Liga until February. The only other players in that category were 4 goalkeepers. This guy won't even post a link.

Fucking dumbass

Well how many more videos of messi are there
Compared to other forwards
I mean, i do think messi is undisputed best of his time, but your logic is flawed

>coutinho is 4th on the list
this ranking is invalidated go look at shirtless sonny bill williams

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You can compare it to Ronaldo, for example, like OP did

-ayer.

Well thats fine, but in general, compared to all the other forwards, it doesnt stand up
Ronaldo is a meme, do you ever imagine where would he be if he wasnt always hyped? I always had the feeling that he got too many undeserved goal chances

24 is actually a very low score. Compare to Hazard´s 59. Ronaldo ain´t the best defender on Earth but Messi is much worse

powerful

>the absolute state of kiwiland

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That sounds completely accurate. Ronaldo is overwhelmingly better at defense than Messi.

Yes.

Whoever says Messi is the best knows nothing about football. Simple as

>falling for Yea Forums memes

We are comparing retard

Ronaldo also being shit at defense doesn't make Messi good at it

Neither of them defends shit but at least Ronaldo can clear a corner at 90' when his team is winning. Messi will just lurk around outside of his box at that time.

Do you even watch football
I watch Arselel regulary and Özil is dogshit everytime

there isn't

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>Ronaldo is the best pl-

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He plays for a dog shit team of course he is dog shit too. Put him on a good team and he will deliver.

If you rate Ozil as bad I wonder how do you rate Matuidi, Betancour, Can and Khedira

>whoscored
lol
wrong

That's because the manager hates him and the public shits on him no matter what

based teji

>Messi isn't the best pl-

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Now do Hazard and Mbappe

>Messi isn't the best pl-

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>Messi isn't the best pl-
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>Messi isn't the best pl-
clubworldranking.com/topscorers/lionel-andres-messi-cuccittini

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Holy shit the absolute state of this logic

Messi is the best player of all time by any metric.

What?