LAK: Lonzo is a BUST LAK: LeBron is WASHED LAK: Ingram is SHIT LAK: Lance SUCKS DICK LAK: Rondo is WASHED LAK: McGee HAS NO IQ LAK: Hart is SOFT LAK: Chandler is WASHED LAK: Magic has AIDS and he's the DUMBEST executive in the ENTIRE NBA /NBA/: Was RIGHT the entire time.
remove these. Ingram is the only one actually trying to win. Lonzo was secretly the best player on the team all along considering they can't even win without him
Noah Clark
The Lakers are doing all they can to help get the Kings in the playoffs.
Wyatt Hall
GOOD GUYS ALL WINNING TODAY
Ian Davis
>trading dementia for cancer
Jacob Martinez
This. He was NBAs first cash cow with his Jordans and merchandise. Stars prior to him didn't have a shoe line.
Dogshit competition puts the shitters in the playoffs
Alexander Green
>Lonzo >KD >Lebron >Zion >AD
who can stop us?
Ethan Barnes
Would rather build a team than build around Lebron. The thing about Lebron is he’s so big he wants to call the shots wherever he goes. Unless you have a very specific set of circumstances (Pat Riley as an executive) he’s not going to buy into any offensive philosophy besides him monopolizing the ball for 22 seconds of the shot clock.
And due to him being the Larry Brown of NBA players there’s no guarantee he’ll actually be there to help you contend in the future.
Carter Gray
oh you're the lebron nutrider ok
Zachary James
What's this???? MJ made clutch FTs to win the game??? This is a bad thing???
Oh, you're a LeFreeThrows fan, nevermind. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm talking about the butler shitters not the lebron shitters
Bentley James
Anthony Davis looks more and more like a bitch as the season goes on.
Owen Fisher
we don't need FA's. We're gonna have a top 5 pick this year. We'll rebuild through the draft
Chase Wright
>LeBron thought he could take half the season off with this shit team >Thinks being a passive aggressive little bitch in interviews will somehow motivate a bunch of 20 year olds LeBron is shit and a toxic teammate.
I would build a team around 18 year old Lebron when he was actually coachable and trying to teach Ricky Davis and Darius Miles right from wrong, but not heatles cancer Lebron
umm hello? i told you they are MY buckies and MY buckies are fucking FRAUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSS
TRADE BLEDSOE RIGHT NOWWWWWWW
Jayden Reyes
>Oladipo is the most improved player and challenged Lebron in the East but lost due to ref interference >Considered not to provide any help with Westbrook Must be a coincidence
>Paul George is one of the best defensive players in the league and the franchise player for the only eastern team to challenge Lebron’s heaties >Lost in the first round with WB Strange..
>Melo was an all star in 2017, considered an irredeemable bum after one year with Westbrook Wtf?
>Harden is an MVP, perenniel MVP candidate, and the franchise player for a team that was up 3-2 on the championship Warriors before Chris Paul went down >never won with Westbrook Damn...
>KD is an MVP and two time Finals MVP, two time NBA championship >lost every year with Westbrook
What else is there to say?
Nolan Young
hahahaha get fucked lecuck and tyshit chandler. hahaha you lakeshit fags were real uppity when chandler had a few good games now look at your ass. losing to my SHIT suns and getting BOOTED from the playoffs ahahahahahaha
Lakers fans had already gotten uppity when it was within 5, just lol at that Lakers anime cheerleader poster
Tyler Anderson
He's actually making excuses for Lebron
Lucas Hall
He didn't play
Adrian Martinez
somebody needs to tell him that the only way LeBron gets another ring is if he renegotiates his contract to 5 mil per and they sign 2 legit max guys and he comes off the bench.
Mason Mitchell
Just wait until Lonzo comes back. We're literally missing our best defender and ball handler. You will all be sorry once he comes back and we go on a record breaking win streak. Playoffs are so fucking guaranteed I put 5k on it tonight.
LE PLAYMAKERS FANS ARE ALL THE SAME HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Charles Martinez
The Jazz are good. Rudy Gobert is the only big that controls the paint down low.
Carter Morris
>making fun of the lelkers come on now, we all know they're going to miss the playoffs and get the #1 pick despite 0.00000001% odds and then proceed to use it on nerlens noel 2.0 because espn told them to
Liam Cruz
>goat >8 straight finals >best training of all time >can do it all >will lead the lakers to a title
IT SEEMS I'VE WON ANOTHER BET AGAINST YOUR "GOAT" LEFRAUD JAMES
Hunter Morales
Broship. Fucking newfag.
Joshua Reed
>Blames everyone but LeBron
LeBron is the "best player in the world" but can't carry a team to a win over the worst team in the league
Ian Baker
Didn’t the Lakers win like 35 games last year? Why is Lebron considered top 2 all time, again?
He doesn’t have more titles than any of the other top ten all time guys, the entire reason the sport is played, but he does seem to be the best player on a lot of losing teams. Is it just never on him?
William Fisher
friendly reminder that all real laker fans fucking hate lebron, never wanted him to come here, and expect nothing less than complete failure every year that he is here because he is a choking babbydick loser
MY JAZZIES DOMINATE ENJOY NEVER WINNING IN SLC AGAIN
Mason Sanders
This, real Lakers fans care about the front of the jersey not the back. Lebron has always played for one fucking person and does not care about rings since he has a horrible Finals record anyway.
Almost winning a title has never been enough for the Lakers. If Bron doesn't have a running start from damn near half court he can't get by anybody. He can't even get that half step to start his patented bulldoze. Needs a screen to get past a big man, this is what happens when you rely entirely on athleticism and never develop any finesse to your game.
Because he's been useful. Now that he's washed up, they will find someone new.
Evan Edwards
Based but bluepilled
Dominic Russell
Nothing that can be done about ownership, we just need Magic, Pelinka, Lebron and Walton gone. The narcissism crew implemented by an owner who inherited the best franchise in recent NBA history
Dominic Flores
first isnt second is
Parker Evans
>mfw a LeNutHugger committed suicide near me >mfw every Fakers fan like Larry is crying right now
these hormone blockers really starting to get to your head, leaf, making you act like a natural born bitch. I hope you don't harm yourself come playoff time.
Should’ve signed Melo so they could have had a scapegoat, they should trade Lebron to the Rockets for some combination of Eric Gordon and whatever salaries they need to make it work.
Dismantle a western conference rival and get back some assets for what amounts to dead cap space, in a single trade.
Carter Hernandez
He probably thinks he's safe now that Lebron isn't in the East.
Cameron Gomez
love the nba love the lakers imploding love 2019
Landon Foster
The team was already being run into the ground before that, hence the hiring of Maginka. Oh, dysfunctional front offices are new to snowflake Lakers fans? You're in for a world of hurt boy
Leo Nelson
Gobert had one of the worst games of his career tonight. -36
Christian Murphy
>tfw only hats I own are lakeys hats >can never wear hats again after this embarrassment
Lincoln Carter
LeBron doesn't make it to half the Finals he did if he was in the West
FACT
Parker Flores
wow the lakers are really shit huh
Luis Scott
Tonight is just another good laugh to add to a long, long list that begins with LA hiring D'Antoni over Phil Jackson in 2012. Actually, scratch that it really began when the Mavs swept them, but that hiring fuck up was when I knew we'd be in for a fun decade for the lakers. Seriously though the organization is the laughing stock of the league at this point, they've managed to make lebron irrelevant.
Isaiah Anderson
Lebron needs more help Trade Lonzo, KCP, Mo Wagner, Josh Hart, two 1st (protected) for Dame
Blazers get a solid young package to rebuild with, Dame gets to play with his favorite player on his favorite team.
Luis Long
Laker fan here. I admit defeat. Good luck in the playoffs Clippers and Kings. Maybe next year...
Roast me if you please. I can take it.
Gabriel Martinez
redpill me on the lakers, lakerbros. i didn't expect much this season since the front office said this is a building up season, but this is depressing. the only saving grace is that it's not as bad here as the 2012-2013 lakers times.
I think he seriously expected Magic and Gay Rob Lowe to make a trade for AD or Kawhi and didn't expect Paul George to resign
All his plans failed 1 by 1 and now he's seething, you can tell in his body language none of this was planned.
Christian Collins
Lakers were in better hands with Jim Buss. He knew where the league was going with 3 pointers and brought in MDA very early.
Kobe unfortunately is a dinosaur, he isn’t a 3p shooter. Kobe should’ve been traded away and if not, not given such huge money. All mid range players remind me of AI and how teams are better without them.
Lakers were heading for doom if they were to keep running the triangle so they aren’t the best franchise in recent history.
Noah Phillips
A: he doesn’t give a shit about ball anymore and went there to jumpstart his acting/media mogul life
B: I bet magic sold him some bullshit that they would get another superstar or some shit and he bought it hook, line and sinker
Kayden Anderson
That wasn't as funny, I honestly felt sorry for Nash, besides I'm pretty sure that team would've turned around much better had they just hired Jackson
Adrian James
jesus i think i need to log off of /nba/ this post is too fucking based
Andrew Gutierrez
BASED SKIP BAYLESS
Carter Evans
Michael Jackson was a better vocalist and artist than LeBron.
Kobe being ass and taking up money in the long run helped the lakers because it netted them plenty of assets. Think about the possible free agents they could've signed if they didn't pay Kobe, they probably would've given Demar some 4 year max deal.
Kayden Wilson
>5. Duncan based and truthpilled
Jeremiah Davis
He thought everyone would want to play with an aging superstar on the back end of his career.
He's getting exposed so bad even the LeDickriders can't defend him.
Carson Scott
I don’t think he thought about basketball reasons. If he did, there were plenty of playoff teams with much better young core to be traded for. Kyrie did it.
He probably went because of a combination of Laker romanticism, his wife’s choices, his son and Hollywood. He doesn’t seem comfortable with Hollywood as well. He’s more into Hip hop and Rap not movies and TV shows. Kobe is more classy so he was fine with LA but Lebron is more street.
All in all, If Lebron has some sense, he’ll ask for a trade.
Christian Thomas
AI and TMac need to be on that list
Jason Lewis
why did lebron try to force this year so hard? trading into trash 1 year deals, offering your entire team for a player you can't even get, wanting the coach fired for what? he's been growing the team 9 wins every year
the young core was doing alright without him. all he really had to do was come in and give them his experience and they would probably have made the playoffs and won a few games which would have been a success. show free agents you're done with the drama and get a big name next off-season and make some trades based on performance and take a shot in 2020 when the warriors break up
hell he probably could have had a happy shop, AD AND a free agent. why does he have to be so stupid and toxic. why not play an actual position instead of the "lebron system" so he can actually play some defense?
is it the coaches fault for not putting him in line? the front office for not setting lebron straight? heads are going to roll over this
Landon Hall
Pelicans were dumb not to take that trade package, huh?
Evan Collins
I know Lebron is better but I don't think Jordan needs to hit THAT many mario kart speed boosts to catch up to him
>Giannis has taken the title of "best player in the world" from Lebron
Change my mind.
Brandon Butler
Haven’t been able to post in awhile because I like the Lakers, thought for sure I’d be shitposting tonight in a guaranteed win. Honestly fuck Lebron dude, what a nigger
Dominic Gonzalez
>Rachel Nichols @Rachel__Nichols >The Lakers lose to the Suns. >Theyve now lost to the Suns, Knicks, Cavs, Hawks, Pelicans & Grizzlies (twice) this season - all teams in the bottom third of the standings. Forget the top teams, or even the middle teams. Just beat those teams & the Lakers would be in the playoffs.
Parker Baker
>Blazers need a rebuild Jesus Christ you're casual, heres a bunch of trash from our non playoff roster for the first team all nba guard on your home court playoff team
Daniel Stewart
>@RobParkerFS1 >Lakers lost to the lowly Sun tonight. Smh. It’s so quiet in LA right now you can hear a mouse urinate on a never to see the light pre-made Bryce Harper Dodgers’ jersey.
Based Rob
Blake Murphy
No, you can't be dumb for not wanting to trade your best player within the conference. Are you retarded?
Joshua Torres
This. The timeline between the young core developing and lebron staying in his prime is so different all the lakers can do now is scramble for a second star and hope it all gels before lebron turns 38. Magic and his HIV ridden brain gave him a max deal that ends when lebron turns 38 and thought they were getting a ring out of it
Grayson Phillips
Kawhi Curry Durant Siakim Lebron Westbrook Lowry Harden George Derozan Giannis Lillard
Was Demar linked with LA at the time? I remember Melo/Westbrook. Any of them would’ve been bad.
The Jim Buss’s FO also made very good draft picks in Dlo and Randle. The new FO have chose a lanky guy who can’t shoot 3s, and a pass first PG who can’t shoot at all. Man, Lakers are a mess with Jeanie and Magic. They are probably bad for another 5 years.
Xavier Edwards
>Lebron lmao he cant even make free throws. give his spot to my boy ayton
Anthony Phillips
i love them both very dearly but that's a hot take my friend
Brody Bennett
Fuck Rachel Nichols.
Logan Hughes
My Lakeshits (:
Luke Fisher
I want to ;)
Robert White
Lakerspic absolutely buttblasted that his gay shitty franchise is getting BTFO by the fucking >Suns HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
It's Kevin Durant you nigger and has been since at least last NBA finals.
Ian Johnson
>lebum my lakeshits (:
Jose Ward
Demar became a free agent after the 2015-16 season and the media apparently drummed up hype for him to sign with the Lakers because he was from Compton, but that didn't happen
>Maginka drafted Ingram
That was also under Jim Buss as well, him and Kupchak got ousted midway through the 2016-17 season
Blake Miller
>Lonzo my lakeshits :)
Aaron Martinez
Doesn't that mean the lakers just aren't any good?
Michael Harris
Kevin Durant Curry
All better than Giannis. He’s on the same level as Westbrook/Harden.
Jason Ramirez
Kobe made both his FTs with a torn Achilles
LeBron can't make two FTs in a close game vs the Suns with the playoff hopes on the line
Luke Howard
All we do is lose
Christopher Walker
SHANNON GET DOWN
Nolan Kelly
imagine being this delusional you forgot "while he's also healthy"
Isaac Brown
P
Thomas Ross
>In terms of winning percentage through at least 25 games, the Phoenix Suns tonight became the worst team a LeBron James team has ever lost to when LeBron plays in the game. The Suns had a .190 win percentage this season entering tonight's game. >LeDecline
Thomas Wood
Yes, like /nba/ said, but of course Lakeshit fans refused to believe this and kept spamming
When they were told their team only had a 10% to make the playoffs they only doubled down and dick sucked LeBitch, now they're all turning on him
Michael Smith
Bros...I just realized /nba/ was finally right for once...
The Lakeshits are fucking trash....This is scary
Luis Miller
>/nba/ turns on lebron as soon as he starts losing fucking bandwagoners
Lonzo is an epic failure though. His ceiling is so low. What do you do with a PG that can’t shoot? The best thing you can hope for him to be is an impact defender for the second unit.
Considering how long Lebron will play for the Lakers (4 years if he could ride out the contract and retire since his body will not be able to take it anymore by the 2022), there's no way he would be able to become an all-time Laker great unless he wins at least 2 or more championships during that tenure.
Adam Cox
>Lebron raps about getting Jewish money >says “I’m sorry if you’re mad, I guess” >suddenly starts sucking ass They activated it alright
Gabriel Gomez
That shows he’s not made for Hollywood man. He should want out.
Robert Bennett
Should have traded lebron for AD desu
Ethan Cooper
>@stephenasmith The @Lakers lost to the damn @Suns tonight. You’ve got to be kidding me. And now....sources tell me @KingJames got on the first bus out of the arena — which might be the first time he’s ever done that in his career. What a disaster. But I’m holding on. Season ends w/ loss Monday.
Big if true
Logan Jones
just got in and saw the score HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHSHSHSHSHSHHSHSHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHhahHHhHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA THE SUNS? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHSHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHSHSHSHSHSHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHhahahahhah YOU FRAUD ASS PIECE OF SHIT YOU ABSOLUTE GARBAGE HUMAN FUCKING BEING HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA CHOKE SOME MORE MR "PLAYOFF MODE" THIS BABY DICK BUM IS A JOKE
Logan Cox
How is what happens after the game news
John Roberts
Pels don't want some permaflushed turbofag shitting up their already shitty team hes a downgrade
Who do the Lakers play next? I hope it's the Warriors lmao
Cooper Anderson
fucking based suns taking out letrash
Isaiah Gonzalez
Drama is for women and gays desu
Dylan Morgan
The NBA is akin to WWE. Most of the fans care about the lives and personalities more than the sport.
Carter Gutierrez
If they lose to the Clippers their season is pretty much unofficially over. Lose all their relevant tie breakers to make the playoffs and statistically only have a 4% chance to make the playoffs
Ryder Roberts
It will be a 3 game homestand vs the Clippers, Nuggets, and Celtics.
Zachary Garcia
he thought they would get a 2nd star. when that fell through he decided to take the year off and just coast to a playoff birth and 1st round exit, which would still be considered a success. then ledecline kicks in and a trivial injury sidelines him for 6 weeks. at this point he realizes he can't afford to waste time and pressures management to get AD. predictably the deal didn't materialize and he just antagonized the entire team in the process
it's only fitting the worst-run organization and the most cancerous player in the league will be stuck together for the next few years
Jaxson Kelly
Well social media should be used for news and everyone unironically releasing rumor mill garbage like "a 'source' told me Jimmy Butler slept with Karl-Anthony Towns' girlfriend" or "the Lakers team bus left without Luke Walton" or "Anthony Davis would be a rental for any team other than the Lakers" should be publicly executed.
Logan James
Daily reminder that lelkers with prime kobe blew a 3-1 lead against the Suns over a decade ago.
Good times.
Luke Young
lmfao holy shit they're finished post yfw Lakers will finish this season with fewer wins than last season (35)
Jack Gray
Shitting on two LA teams in a single statement is a good look
Luke Perez
Losing in the playoffs is always better than missing the playoffs entirely. Sorry Lebron
>Melo was an all star in 2017, considered an irredeemable bum after one year with Westbrook All star game is a popularity contest, it's utterly meaningless. Carmelo's been a bum for a long time, even when he was "good" he was still toxic and so shitty on defense he was a net detriment to the team.
Joshua Jackson
Uhh i don't think this is an argument you want sweety, Losing in the finals is always better than missing the finals completely by that logic which would make him the GOAT.
Leo Jackson
Why the fuck are the Hawks such an autistic team
Christopher Wood
Yeah the GOAT of losing LMAO
Nathan Gray
Considering that they are now at 30-33 with 19 games left, for them to be 35-47 means they will have to go 5-14.
Andrew Evans
Jordan won 6 titles you zoomer autist, winning the title will always be better than losing it.
Camden Scott
Rent a swag
Liam Thomas
The magic are out here. Clifford for COTY and T-ross is a MIP contender
Liam Myers
Your shitty trade bait is not good just because he scored 50 points once
Samuel Lopez
>tie over belt yikes I thought westbrook was supposed to be /fa/
Henry Cooper
>the Hawks have 2 of the longest playoff streaks in the NBA >1 title
Levi Long
Umm it was 51. Get it right.
Lucas Phillips
And jordan lost in first rounds and never got to the finals without pippen. LeBron would never.
Kayden Richardson
I know
Isaiah Roberts
When its a star player getting shook harder than Wall, thats when
Owen Long
Isn’t Lebron’s perennial excuse for losing that he can’t beat teams with multiple Hall of Famers?
Landon Mitchell
This. Even pippen was able to get to the finals twice without Jordan.
hi Barry McCockiner, are you done sucking LeBron's penis yet? shouldn't have too much of a problem fitting it in since it's so fucking small to begin with lmao
Jacob Thompson
You really don't believe that opposing teams try harder against Lebron?
Landon Brooks
>ruined Wade >ruined Bosh >ruined Love >ruined Kyrie >ruined IT >ruined Clarkson >ruined Nance >ruined Ingram >mfw people still think Lebron isn't a team cancer
Do you think they need to try that hard against the Lakers????
You're acting like they're the Warriors level of status.
Levi Long
Why would they? He’s not Curry, KD, Paul George, Giannis, Jokic, Embiid or any of those players whom beating in the regular season means something
Jayden Hughes
>>ruined Love
This is really deep when you think about it. I can no longer love the NBA after LeBron also ruined it in going to the Heat
Parker Diaz
Ingram is balling, Kyrie is exposed and can't lead a team, and Clarkson and Nance are both trash. I watch them every cavsies game and Clarkson is beyond selfish and Nance is a scrub
aw. Milwalky fans befriending 3rd world humans. yall got enough in common I see
Parker Brown
that fake pass in transition from draymond to cousins was insane
Brody Moore
since when are us buckies fans attacking each other? we are all buckies here folks. greek freak!
Gabriel Barnes
Bucks are better than the Raptors
Ayden Wood
No one cares bro, I just know Clarkson and Nance are dogshit, have you seen how selfish Clarkson is this season? He's the sixth man on the 2019 Cavaliers. He isn't good enough to start at point over Brandon Knight or at 2 over Sexton the 6'0 rookie. I do know my Cavs. Nance lost his starting spot too BEFORE Love returned. Only retarded Lakers fans thought these were valuable players.
since bucks fans feel the need to explain shit after their teary loss tonight, explain how bucks can afford to sign the starting 4 outside of Giannis, including mirotic, this offseason
Liam Jenkins
Lelbron deserves this for getting greedy. He had an admirable legacy secure in Cleveland, but it wasn't good enough. Now he's gonna go out as a meme.
Sebastian Taylor
This is only the beginning of your humiliation
Tyler Murphy
Utah's going to meme you out of the playoffs
Jackson Roberts
Lebron literally gave Bosh blood clots, cost Varejao a ring, gave Ty Lue heart problems, made Kevin Love go through panic attacks, and cost his "best friend" Dwyane Wade tens of millions. He's a genuinely terrible human being.
Jace Kelly
1. Jordan 2. Kareem 3. Wilt 4. Bird 5. Hakeem 6. Duncan 7. Shaq 8. Magic 9. Dirk 10. Malone 11. Curry 12. David Robinson 13. Jerry West 14. Kevin Garnett 15. Jason Kidd 16. Scottie Pippen 17. Dr J 18. Rick Barry 19. Kevin McHale 20. Oscar Robertson 21. Charles Barkley 22. Gary Payton 23. Isiah Thomas 24. Patrick Ewing 25. Bill Russell 26. Allen Iverson 27. Kevin Durant 28. Elgin Baylor 29. George McGinnis 30a. Tracy McGrady 30b. Lebron James
That’s just from not having a dad, he’s adopted more feminine aspects in his attitude trying to emulate his crack whore mother. Eye rolling, head snapping, dick sucking, etc.
Isaiah Gray
I don't think any of these are correct
Mason Hall
This. Dude ended the drought and probably would of got not just his number retired but a statue of himself in Cleveland had he stayed
Michael Cook
LeBron has a similar effect as Carmelo on a team
Evan Richardson
Not sure I can put Lebron over Dominique Wilkins, Willis Reed, Robert Parish or Clyde Frazier. He’s like 40th for me inbetween Moses Malone and Kevin Love
Luis Jackson
This is exactly what LeBitch wants you fucking brainlets.
He scheduled the filming of Space Jam 2 DURING the playoffs.
Ayden Diaz
Lebron doesn't like Cleveland anymore because they're Trump supporters. He spent all election campaigning for Clinton and they didn't listen to him.
I liked how upfront Kobe was about it. LeBron will try to be your best friend, take you out for wine, praise you in front of the media and other teammates, but he's behind everyone's back plotting with the GM and Owner to trade your ass and sign 2 all stars to join him at all times.
Also Kobe took blame for a lot of thinks, LeBron simply blames others, in a very feminine, unmanly, passive aggressive way.
Joshua Young
Lebron is a bitch ass nigga and only considered an all-time great because he was pushed as such since before entering the league for marketing purposes.
Brody Evans
What is LeBron's endgame bros
Adam Lewis
this Jordan was gone and they were terrified there wouldn't be someone to keep the ratings up so they pushed him
Chase Gomez
they literally had to change the rules to 'create' a bunch of MJs
John Price
He’s a top 50 all time player, but there was nothing so special about him that they constantly needed to give him Tiger Woods level attention. It’s been comical how the media has framed his every failing as a success, the analytic era made it worse.
Carter Cox
is /nba/ willing to admit that Lonzo is the real MVP
“Luke Walton and Lakers turned my boy into a Loser” - Lakers 14-32 Record W/Out Lonzo Since Drafted (5-12 this season)
Bentley Hall
Kobe was toward the end of his career and way past his prime, but the players on his last teams were pretty sorry. Jeremy Lin, washed up Carlos Boozer, Jordan Hill, Jordan Clarkson, washed up Hibbert. Can you really blame him for lashing out?
Jaxson Collins
>Blaming Lucky Luke and not the foid and AIDS negro running the circus
Easton Butler
he defends and rebounds at least something the lakers basically stopped doing
Carson Jenkins
Retirement
Logan Gray
MJ is and was a 'favored child' of David Stern. Realistically, he had as much of an impact as Wilt, Magic, Duncan, or Lebron.
He's not even consensus number 1 OR 2. Championships don't equal greatness. If they did Matthew Dellavedova would be greater than Alex English or Charles Barkley.
Logan Flores
Why do people act like MJ was a roleplayer on his title teams and not a 5 time MVP, DPOY, scoring leader or perennial all nba/defensive team guy?
He has an entire Hall of Fame career on top of Lebron’s accomplishments, and yes winning titles is important and the entire reason the sport is played. Stupid zoomer
Camden Parker
If LeBron was drafted #3 by the Nuggets and Melo #1 to the Cavs how different would both their careers be?
Reminder LeBron would have to play vs prime Kobe and Duncan most his career instead of zone defense flash in the pan Pistons and old ass Celtics for a couple years then a wash of random meme teams in the East.
For those that know anything about the game and don’t follow boxscores Jordan has always been the GOAT. He was in the discussion before he won his first title as well so, suck my dick Lebitch fan
Logan Cook
Valanciunas is the next Euro big to average 20/10 on a shitty team
>unironically putting Booker above Dlo or Siakam what the fuck are you smoking bro
Jayden Nelson
Bill Russell would be Deandre Jordan in todays league
Grayson Allen
>lebron needs more help!
fuck off, poop, you dinosaur
Logan Reyes
Melo basically has the same career path. LeBron potentially wins a championship in 2008-2009.
Nolan Sanchez
>mitchell that low
Landon Foster
I honestly don't think you're wrong he would have aged better than DJ and would have had better handles but still essentially DJ tack on good leadership qualities and you have Russell not to disrespect the guy either, what he did for the game was huge, and he was still a great player
Christian Cox
whatever happened to gordon hayward
Jaxon Rivera
He played so much LOL he died of LELS
Anthony James
DJ is something of a leader. His presence has fixed up the Knicks' effort a bit and he's been an A+ mentor to Mitchell Robinson. Fixed the kid's FT stroke in like 20 days.
Angel Williams
Should've played Dota like Lin and Adams. Too much LoL makes you a bitch boi.
Oliver Lopez
Because they won 55 GAMES without him after he left.
FIFTY FUCKING FIVE.
That team was stacked and people need to start acknowledging it.
Michael Allen
This desu. Russell is the greatest of all time and only brainlets can't accept that.
Ian Murphy
>greatest >played against literally who bums in a 6 team league
Brayden Cruz
Luc Longley was better than Alex English because 'muh starters with rings'.
Kill yourself.
Jace Richardson
But did they win the Finals?
MJ is what makes them champions. He's the clutch king.
Isaiah Roberts
Alex English is overrated as fuck and played in an early high pace system that inflated his stats
Caleb Anderson
That suggest to me he had a good team who’s ceiling, via inclusion, he raised to 6 time uncontested champions. On top of that Scottie never shot over 40% from the field in the playoffs as a Bull after that singular season of carrying the scoring load Jordan managed consistently
>his team w-was good What championship team was bad, also?
Cameron Wood
grim
Brayden Russell
Night losers
Eli Thompson
>says "6 team league" like it's a bad thing >ignores the supposed "GOAT" Jordan playing in an overexpanded league Yeah, beating up the Timberwolves and the Grizzlies sure makes a legend.
Isaiah Roberts
It’s crazy only Lebron fans seem so intent on making championships in sports irrelavent. You’re the equivalent to people claiming Aaron Rodgers is better than Brady
Who else has this losers mentality where championships do not matter for the consistent best player on a championship team?
How did expansion teams inflate Jordan’s impact as a player? He never played them more than 6 games a year. Meanwhile Lebron plays a tanking team a la the Process 76ers every other week
Jonathan Campbell
LMAO John Paxson and Steve Kerr were more clutch than MJ to win him Championships. MJ riding on white boys.
Sad.
Ethan King
gnight winners
Elijah Clark
Not an argue mint
Oliver Harris
Both those guys are famous for 1 shot, not multiple game winners and go ahead FGs consistently more than anyone else
Cooper King
How many FMVPs between the two of them? Meanwhile Wade had a whole title before Lebron came to team up
Easton Diaz
This is a completely unbiased GOAT list.
1. Michael Jordan 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Tim Duncan 4. Magic Johnson 5. Shaquille O'Neal 6. LeBron James 7. Bill Russell 8. Wilt Chamberlain 9. Hakeem Olajuwon 10. Larry Bird
Adam Wilson
>no Dr J >leFraud above Bird
Jayden Jones
Bird instantly made the Celtics a 60 win team his rookie season and they never looked back after that. He’s definitely better than Lebron and Magic
Joseph Baker
Dr. J was the GOAT ABA player and it's sad people don't carry his achievements into NBA rankings.
Bentley Bennett
>retards who think Deshawn Stevenson is better All-Time than Karl Malone.
Henry Watson
White people shouldn't be ranked in any top10. It's a black man's sport after all.
Logan Smith
>retard who can’t appreciate context when comparing stars and role players career achievements >retard who inexplicably thinks it’s better to lose a finals than win it >retard who is going to die on a hill of a 3-6 nigger who’s legacy will be dominating a weak eastern conference and never catching the ghost he himself sought out to chase It’s almost like we have an entire body of work outside of Finals wins and losses to compare Malone and Deshawn Stevenson. It’s almost like Jordan won 6 FMVPs. It’s almost like Jordan had accolades in the regular season greater than those of Lebron.
Brandon Ramirez
Aaron Rodgers is better than Tom Brady though.
Nathaniel Perez
Didn't Bird beat Hakeem african ass in the Finals in 1986?
Tyler Moore
Bird was different and so were Dirk and Rick Barry. Most white guys haven’t been anywhere near as good but those guys achieved a lot more with a lot less athleticism than black players who didn’t do anything with it.
Xavier Price
He beat that African slave and made Jordan wait until he was done to forge his legacy, but he’ll never get the respect he deserves because NBA fans see black skin and start salivating.
Luis Foster
>Chad Curtis is better than Barry Bonds because he was a starter and won a ship
Holy Fuck, go die you mongoloid.
Parker Richardson
Tom Brady is better at the most important part of being a QB than Rodgers
Doing what your coach tells you and executing each play to perfection.
Rodgers goes out of his way to play off script and make thing more difficult consistently going out of his way to throw higher difficulty throws.
Jackson Reyes
Stop making straw man arguments that nobody proposes to fuel your Lebron obsession. Nobody thinks Steve Kerr is better than Steph because of jewelry, and simultaneously nobody except 16 year olds thinks Lebron is anywhere close to Jordan, these two schools of thoughts can exist simultaneously
Henry Wilson
People who buy the MJ 90's Stern meme are literally retarded and there's no point arguing with them.
James Ortiz
The Lakers are a horribly managed and owned team.
I'm glad plastic spics will have to endure this suffering for the rest of their lifetimes like most teams do.
Lincoln Stewart
Been watching these Kings sitting on the bubble and watched the game against Milwaukee. Sac has lost like 17 games by 10 or less points. 91 total in those 17. Losing by a average of 5 per game. They're one 100 point game away from 48-14. They're coming.....
Elijah Perez
Lebron, Wilt, and Kareem are all better than MJ.
Grayson Diaz
At least MJ actually won while being the most popular player in the sport. Lebron was pushed harder despite allowing two dynasties to forge in his absolute prime and steal his championship prospects over and over again
Imagine sucking the cock of a player who couldn’t even go .500 in the Finals
Ian Mitchell
What can whitebois do to minimize their embarrassment against the likes of prime D Rose or Westbrook of defense?
Dominic Nelson
Lebron isn’t even better than Dr. J, imagine if he had prime Bosh instead of Steve Mix
Nathan Kelly
Those guys are so butthurt MJ is considered better than all of them.
Lebron’s the most interesting of all the top 20 guys because he’s the only player evaluated independently of his team’s success. Like even now where it’s obvious at age 34 he’s not as impactful as any of the other guys on those list Lebron fans are unhitching Lebron to the Lakers wagon and solely look at him based on boxscores. Losing to the Suns is cool because he nearly got a triple double
Zachary Kelly
Kareem isn't even higher than Magic.
Parker Russell
>couldnt even get a triple double against a sub-15win suns team
Because Magic Johnson is the best point guard in history and Oscar Robertson is no worse than top ten at that position all time. Is Scottie Pippen the best small forward to ever play?
Dennis Rodman and Grant are better than Garnett, McHale, Barkley? Kareem got swept in the Finals with some of the best players in history
Robert Moore
In fairness, the moment MJ retired they were trying to find his 'heir' in the media.
Harold Miner, Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Kobe Bryant, Vince Carter...etc
'Like Mike' is a media driven coined phrase.
Lebron is the most successful individual player since MJ and it's not even close.
Blake Parker
even when they lose they are the center of the league. Lebrons brand grows every minute
Lucas Jenkins
Reminder that Kareem is still so bitter at Jordan that he is trying to gas up LeBron.
Noah Fisher
Same thing happened with Wilt though. Except Wilt was possibly the greatest and Lebron is top 15 somewhere.
Kayden Hall
They've had very few games where they've gotten straight blown out. They've played against the Warriors 4 times this season and they lost every game but in total they lost by less than 10 points in all games. This team is on the verge of creating something special. Just wait till next season.
William Richardson
91231517 shut the fuck up, stupid nuthugging leaf
Jackson Barnes
>Lebron is the most successful individual player since MJ and it's not even close. Duncan and Shaq are still better than LeBron. Kobe has two more rings and Curry has already tied him.
Adrian Long
>Lebron at age 34 has given up on basketball and only looks to build his brand That’s weak, he should be trying to win now and build later. His brand would improve if he got a championship for the Lakers
Wyatt Lee
A lot of niggas are bitter because Jordan was good with the media and didn’t do the whole politics thing like Kareem and Bill. Lebron hasn’t done anything on the court so they try to gas up his politics even though he hasn’t said or done anything profound or even risky
This is the guy that wrote nigger on his own house for sympathy
Jason Russell
lebron said it himself. nothing left in the league that he needs to accomplish. likely nothing else in life either outside of joining the billionaires club if he hasnt already
Jackson Ward
They're right there for sure.
Levi Morales
The only guy even in consideration is Duncan. Shaq was a beast but lazy as fuck for a pro limiting his longevity, Kobe was a glorified chucker, and Curry is made of glass and can't defend.
Lincoln Walker
Moving the GOAL posts.
Cooper Allen
>cant defend >curry steals the finals trophy from lebron.gif
Julian Perry
What’s there to consider? Duncan won way more in the tougher conference, the moment he retired it was over for what was the best organization in pro sports for nearly two decades. Lebron never had that impact anywhere, the only reason Duncan isn’t remembered as fondly is he didn’t try and sell shoes.
Dylan Walker
>”I’m chasing Jordan” >lose two straight finals >”I’m the GOAT I don’t gotta do nothing else” It sucks seeing a guy so talented be so mentally weak, he’d be the undisputed GOAT if he had a dad.
Ethan Gomez
Duncan is better than LeBron. The thing that hurts him legacy-wise is pure aesthetics.
Aaron Walker
Pippen is in top 5 maybe.
The thing is, Kareem played until he was 40, aged really well, was unguardable and had a better college career.
If you could build a team around either one, would you pick the alltime scoring big or the guard who couldn't win until 1990?
Jack Smith
Imagine being a fan of Lebron, if I don’t care anything about winning and want to fan girl somebody give me AI or T Mac. They were way more fun to watch lose, don’t think I saw AI once cry to the refs when his 150lb frame got mollywhopped in the paint in a more physical era
Brayden Turner
The thing that really limits Duncan's legacy is he is seen as a system babby/Pop babby. But yes, he is undeniably a better player overall than Lebron who was basically an ESPN meme from the start.
Joshua Flores
>Kobe was a glorified chucker
Wasn't he a nightmare on defense for a very long time?
James Evans
>the moment he retired it was over for what was the best organization in pro sports for nearly two decades. Lebron never had that impact anywhere
Except those times he left Cleveland and they went from Finals contenders to 1st overall pick contenders??
Luke Wood
Duncan was carried to his last 2 rings and wasn't even considered a top 10 player in the NBA post 2008
Carried to 2 rings and has 1 lockout ring (1999)
Duncan technically has 2 rings, 2 MVPs and 2 FMVPs
Ryan Sullivan
Give me Jordan, always. The 70s were the absolute weakest era in NBA history that nearly killed the sport, I think they produced like three 60 win teams in the entire decade. Multiple champions and FMVPs that weren’t even perennial all NBA guys or first ballot hall of Famers, even a guy like Lebron would win in this era without a super team.
Jordan didn’t win in the 80s because no one won in the 80s except the Lakers and the Celtics (8 championships in the decade).
Lucas Torres
next season Kangz for WCF cap this
Joshua Green
Tbf, finals contender in the least isn't much.
Justin Garcia
Lebron won a single title in a weak east on Cleveland. The Spurs won five with Tim Duncan on a team that could not get any free agents in the West.
Who did Lebron even have to beat in ‘16 besides the Warriors? The Hawks?
Angel James
You have to learn to lose before you can win. Just like the Warriors lost to the Nuggets and Clippers in the first round. before they could learn how to win in the playoffs.
>You have to learn to lose before you can win. Is that some kind of eastern thing?
Isaac Johnson
Warriors beat the Nuggets in the 1st round, they lost to the Spurs in 2nd round, which they should've won but Mark Jackson blew the series
Levi Rivera
I don't know. I think Doug Christie said that last week.
Lucas Butler
>game breaking MJ, Wilt, Shaq
>showtime Kareem, Magic, Bird
>gatekeepers need 4 names here
Charles Barnes
>carried >led the team in rebounds and blocks >still averaged the second (2007) or third (2014) most points only like 4 a game off the winner of mvp >still averaged a double double
He wasn't the Duncan of old in the playoffs who put up god like stats but he was still essential.
Jack Baker
It sucks when you get into box score debates with people who didn’t get to appreciate the players. Duncan will likely be entirely lost on the YouTube generation because as he aged he didn’t operate in the high post like he used to but rather anchored consistently the best defenses in the NBA and was an elite passer. Everyone was more effective when he played, note Danny Green’s dip in productivety after his retirement.
Spurs were truly a basketball aficionado’s team, you can’t really appreciate them if you just watch the ball and this is why Duncan was never the face of the league. That Spurs Pistons Finals had the lowest ratings of any finals series ever if I recall correctly, that style of play isn’t exhilarating for your casual fan and might have inconsequently killed defense.
David Johnson
>bet 1k on Lakers making the playoffs Hehe alright Lebron is gonna stop playing around soon now, right?
It’s not that I have a ton of faith in Lebron. It’s just I could not imagine the league letting their most popular player on a super popular team miss the playoffs.
Every game I’m waiting for the fix to come in and every game they’ve been fucking up. I’m still praying they make the playoffs but every time I think they can’t possivly lose they lose
He knows the system and can infuse the frontcourt with some much needed “athleticism.” What could go wrong?
Josiah Peterson
it's not like he can tear his ACLs either put him in pop
William Kelly
Are the Lakers really eliminated from playoff contention or are you guys just memeing?
Adam Cruz
no team in the league is eliminated from playoff contention yet. no team but the bucks clinched a playoff berth either. technically.
Elijah Cruz
At this point they are. 5 games behind the 8th seed and they have the 5th hardest schedule in the league.
Jace White
Phoenix are actually eliminated, even mathematically.
John Martin
Is there even a coach better than Luke Walton available for hire?
Will the lelkers try to poach Malone out of Denver next?
Tyler Brooks
you are right. the official NBA standings don't have them as eliminated yet. shouldve looked closer.
Jacob Cooper
They'll probably hire some black character guy and let Lebron do the coaching. Someone like Keith Smart who can't coach worth a damn but he's willing to put on a smile and add positivity.
A team of Damian Lillard and co never wins anything, their cieling is a second round exit and not a very competitive one. Lonzo and Josh would start right away for that club, and Mo Wagner fits well in any front court. Add two picks and that’s an extremely competitive package moving forward, Portland in turn does right for Dame and puts him someplace with maximum visibility and a chance to contend
Adrian Roberts
You mean when Hakeem was like 24?
Anthony Edwards
I'm watching this more for the Looney Tunes characters to be honest.
[spoiler]Hoping Lola is the crazy Lola from the newer TV series, but I know it's not going to happen[/spoiler]
Matthew Brooks
I had agreed with everything until he said Lebron needed more help.
Caleb Moore
Lebron needs a wine partner bros
David Garcia
mark kenan desu
Jace Morris
my lakies stay super stinky
Aiden Wilson
Heh. Jordan himself said that 5 beats 3 and Kobe is the only one that could beat him one on one. Shaq himself admitted he let Kobe pick up the slack after the 1st ring.
Kobe is in the top 10.
81 points beats everything else.
Other players can only dream of getting to his shot variety.
Caleb Jackson
Kobe went to 7 finals in a tough west, Lebron 9, and Duncan 6.
There isn’t much of a difference between Kobe and Lebron’s finals appearances.
You guys need to start looking at things objectively. He was the best player for the longest time in the NBA after MJ.
Xavier Stewart
I seriously hope that post hurt to type.
Thinking that Portland needs to trade Dame to do "right by him" after everything he's done for the city and the team as a leader is ridiculous. Especially after he's (repeatedly) said he doesn't want to ride anyone's coattails to a ring, and he wants to cement his career and legacy in Portland. Apply yourself.
Jayden Nelson
Dominique is top 20. Lebron maybe scrapes into the top 50...maybe.