Memes aside, what can they do differently to win next time?

2014: Finished bottom of the group.

2018: Semi Finalists

They are getting better.

There are many English talents and the days of them being a fucking joke are over, but I'd be quite surprised if they were to win it in 2022. Last year, they had luck with the opponents. Costa Rica, Tunisia and Sweden aren't tough opponens and they had trouble with beating Colombia without James. Belgium and Croatia were indeed better teams in my opinion.

They can definitely reach the semifinals again. In my opinion, they lack a real playmaker. They've got tons of wingers/attackers and shit, but many other positions are a bit understaffed. It's not bad, but it could make the difference.

Southgate did a very good job in 2018. I don't know what there is to improve. But I'm afraid 2022 will belong to France (pls not) or Brazil (pls not).

England winning it would feel a bit surreal, but I would prefer them getting their second star over France defending the title and Brazil winning the HEXA. They'd need another easy path to the finals like in 2018 again. If many contenders knock each other out, they could be the last man standing. The longer they stay in, the more confident they become.

I miss the days when >we were good...

They couldn't score unless it was Kane or from a set piece and their defence was exposed against a good counter attacking side

2018 was a blip

that's not how it works user

Teach Sterling to finish

teach kane to pass the ball

according to an analysis by squidge their issue is relying too much on waiting for their opponents to make mistakes thenm have Owen Farrel kick the ball into space and follow with a try
they need more creativity and to make their own opportunities also they were worn down in the second half by wales constantly targeting their outer defenders so that they were almost exhausted by 3/4 through
youtube.com/watch?v=97lxC01M5Gc

these factors won't be such an issue against scotland and Italy if Ireland can somehow beat this rolling welsh team then england will probably win the 6 nations championship
it somewhat mires the shine of england's dominance of ireland a few week's back hopefully they can learn from these matches in the run up to the World cup.

England in 2018 were the 2nd youngest average age, just ahead of France. However, the French team will have lost a few stars by 2022 (Giroud, Lloris, Matuidi, Greizmann 50/50), while England will only be losing peripheral players (Henderson, Walker, Trippier, Vardy).

England will also be gaining quite a few future stars - Gomes, Alexander-Arnold, Sessegnon, Foden, Sancho, Brewster. France will gain some too, but remember that the future is much more bright for England - the last two years has seen every level of English youth football as champions - U21, U20, U19, U17, U16.

With VAR in place they stand no chance.

They need to score sum facking goals while keeping the enemies from scoring, but that's impossible without a british referee a british football minister a british UEFA agent a british 3 Lions Corps General a British cheating coach adviser and the compettition being held in London with the entire Queen's family watching.

You will loose Gary Cahill and Ashley Young too.

Didn't win U16 WC and U21 won nothing
U19 obliterated 5-0 by France

France will just get Laporte, Lenglet, Dubois, Rabiot, Ben Yedder, Thauvin, Lacazette, O.Dembélé, Fekir.

I would say that they should try to keep the ratio of goals scored/conceded above 1 in all matches.

>You will loose Gary Cahill and Ashley Young too.
Huge.
>Didn't win U16 WC and U21 won nothing
No such thing as an U16 WC, however they did go the entirety of 2018 unbeaten (beating France twice) - as did the U21s.
>U19 obliterated 5-0 by France
bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44832541
>But England will have to fill the void left by the absence of 10 key players.
No Foden, Sancho, Sessegnon, Mount, McGuane

Almost all of these were in the 18 WC squad you casual

the problem is the half breeds, they need a team that is 50/50 off the boat africans and good old white lads

Just 3 out of the 9 I named.
Thauvin didn't play at all (so he doesn't count, his name can stand in my list) and Fekir has been injured just before it started and wasn't ready but too late to replace him.

>Huge.
Yes, huge. All your key players have gone or are going.

>the last two years has seen every level of English youth football as champions - U21, U20, U19, U17, U16.
Just a batant lie

>more depth in midfield and up front
>find a decent number 10 - maybe foden?
>players with the most potential need to kick on. In particular I think this maybe means that Kane and Alli need to leave Tottenham if they can for the really top teams (your Barcelonas, your real Madrids)
>other players need to stop going backwards - looking at you pickford
>continue to export young players abroad to Germany and Spain if possible
>develop the players from the WC winning youth squads and make sure the ones in the top 6 get a chance for first team football (Hudson odoi etc)
>find some way to get sterling to play as good as he is capable

There's certainly real potential given the young squad did brilliantly. The only real loss is the experience of Young.

However I still think it'll be tough to win anything given how stacked France is and will continue to be for the foreseeable future, and you can never count out the Germanys and Brazils. We'd still need to be lucky to win a WC unless we continue to develop great players for another few decades. The nation's League would be great though, if only for the shitposting potential.

I love the 4-3-3 counter attacking football Southgate is starting. Despite all the memes Sterling is a quality winger, Kane is a world class CF and Rashford/Sancho provide options up front. We have lots of decent options in defence too, and Pickford has shown he's a big game player at the WC.

The thing holding us back from actually winning anything is our lack of creativity in midfield. If a playmaker like Scholes came through the ranks in the next 3 years we might actually stand a chance. I could easily see us win the Euros, but a WC win doesn't seem very likely.

Griezmann will play at Qatar WC.

Four Four Two. Andy Carroll up top. Pacy niggers in the wings. Hardworking central midfielders. Hoofball for days la

Good post

>Just 3 out of the 9 I named.

Sorry, I should have been clearer - either played or just weren't fucking picked - Rabiot, Lacazette, Laporte, Dubois won't be around in 2022 either.
>Yes, huge. All your key players have gone or are going.

Cahill played 90min (total) in Russia, against Belgium when we squad rotated. Young was excellent but hardly key when Sessegnon is coming (along with TAA who can also cover at LWB).

Honestly? Not a lot. We don't have the talent all over the pitch needed to try and win this thing taking opponents head-on. France have world class players that are also balance in nearly every position. Our best bet is to try and pull a Portugal 2016. Drill the whole team in an extremely solid shape, everything super efficient, then use our strikers (the part where we're actually strong) to grab goals from limited chances.

That's if we actually want to win with limited resources. It's what Atletico do and it's what Chelsea did in 2012. It won't be pretty though.

>>continue to export young players abroad to Germany and Spain if possible
They don't really want or need them, with Brexit that won't happen.

I only know who will win 2038 WC. It will be Croatia: 1998 3rd, 2018 2nd and 2038 1st.

Germany will alway have to be respected

>Rabiot, Lacazette, Laporte, Dubois won't be around in 2022 either.

This fucking guy KEK

Get lucky.
Don’t have enough technically great players, though grass-roots football has finally stopped completely relying on tall, pacy blacks.

Why didn't they go in 18 mate :^)

Are you retarded?
Too Stacked already

Semect them and they play. Simple as

Select them*

So, picking them would be a downgrade to the current French squad while the English replacements will be an upgrade? Sounds good to me Pierre.

> lack a real playmaker

phil foden la

its coming home

I could say the same thing for your squad.
Selecting niggers that weren't even called in your 18 team is a downgrade.
You're a fucking moronic shit, Kierran.

>niggers

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>Cahill played 90min (total) in Russia, against Belgium when we squad rotated
So you mean Southgate (ahahaha) preserved him for your hardest opponent in the course of the competition? And he's gone? Oh my

>with Brexit that won't happen
haha yeah because there are absolutely no players in European leagues from outside the EU :^)

We're not at war with them :^)

>memes aside
that takes basically all of the players out of the team, hard to win in such conditions

Find a midfield.
That's basically it.

replace their team with French players

France : 1998 1st, 2018 1st, 2038...

Replace the team with Africans (French).

Play Sean Longstaff

Give this man the coaching job already

Alternatively, for Germany...
2014: Winners
2018: finished bottom of the group
What happens in 2022?

Your opinion is irrelevant if you only watched England play at the world cup and not in the international breaks following autumn

Don't see them winning in any kind of way.
Even with us out of the race from now on, France team is better everywhere and young.
Germany is probably on par with them once they get their shit together.
Brazil is always more talented, if they get their act together they are stronger aswell.
I fully expect Netherlands to be a strong contender next WC/euro, Italy might need more time.
I fully expect Spain to not shit the bed again.

So you basicaly have France Netherland and Spain that will be stronger coming to Euro, and by WC time i think Germany and Brazil will be fixed.
That's a lot to hopefully avoid in draws like they did with their luck in the WC

find another meme song to back their denial.

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finalist, like France after 1998 and 2002

Engcucks getting heavily outbantered by the French ITT

That was in the WC when Southgate was memeing it up with 5 atb, Walker at CB and no midfield. England played 4-3-3 in da nations league

youtube.com/watch?v=CS9AUB9W-xg

actually use the height of that goofy kane to score headers instead of shooting corners for fuck sake.

Agreed, if we are to win anything, well need to play like peak klopps Liverpool, just get the ball to our, hopefully by then, world class attackers as fast as possible, and let them score. We do also have a great crossing threat as shown in the last world cup. So if our defense is up to scratch, we might just nick it. Our best players are all not at peak age yet, so it's just hoping they turn out as good as expected.

those dont sound like english names laa

We need more players with 2 surnames.

>Costa Rica, Tunisia and Sweden aren't tough opponens
Yet those are the exact type of teams we've had trouble beating in past tournaments

>2016: Iceland, Russia, Slovenia
>2014: Costa Rica
>2010: Algeria, USA

England dominated Colombia, The only hard part about the game was the constant fouling and how their game plan was just piss off the English players.
>their coaching staff pushing English players as they walked off the pitch at half time.
>Distracting the ref while they dirtied the penalty spot

I see you sporting a non footballing nation flag so I'll excuse your ignorance but Spain are finished mate, in the future people will talk about 2008 - 2012 Spain team the same way they do about 1950s Hungary.

>France 1998 winners, 2002 out in group
>Italy 2006 winners, 2010 out in group
>Spain 2010 winners, 2014 out in group
>Germany 2014 winners, 2018 out in group
We know how 2022 is going for France

Lacazette, Ben yedder, and Griezmann will all be in there 30's come 2022, you're striker force will be worse.
>Thauvin
Kek

>Cahill and young
>Key players

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Thauvin is a good player, Pardew just didn't want him.

>all our key players have at least another 3 major tournaments in them
>we have been dominating at youth level so there are plenty players who will come up through the ranks
>the only thing that let the team down was a lack of experience
>time is linear

We just need to keep doing what we've been doing, we're only going to get better.

don't forget nigger giroud with skills

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SCORE SAM FACKING GOWLS!

other than that we have really good youth players. if we can just get them game time before the next wc we could stand a decent chance. also being to a semi final before will make us less likely to choke.

Import more black bvlls

Haller has great composure

Trent in la

>be on island surrounded by fish
>die because no potatoes
t. West Brit with at least one British given name or surname

Verschaeren will be better than mertens

Dimata/Michy dont do worse than Lukaku since 2014 in important games

Denayer is a lot better than Vertonghen at the same age
Vanheusden is A LOT better than Kompany at the same age

Dendoncker >>>> Fellaini
Tielemans can still become world class
Januzaj can do anything because hes too dumb to feel pressure and Jeremy Doku is the new Pele

Hazard, courtois, KDB and Witsel can stay

We only getting stronger until 2022

>England
>winning
kek

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nuke every other competing nation

>tf
>tp

More pacy negroes.

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At least has a normal name

The lyrics talk about England being shit.

>lots of great young players coming through
>france will go out round 1 since they won 2018
>belgium will be shit in 2022
>croatia are a meme team and will be shit in 2022
>germany will still be shit

all we have to do is beat brasil

>belgium will be shit in 2022

can we at least win the euro ?

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>a bunch of Tottenham players in the squad
>reach semi-final
I guess you could say they really put the pressure on.

Brazil will win the HEXA with Vinícius Jr

>need better options than smalling and Jones
>kane must learn to score more than a dead ball
>take advantage of (((var))) and force south American players to foul in the box so kane can score more pens
>DONT play sterling because when he gets close to goal he will always try and get in the box to shoot himself and then lose possession instead of passing out to a better player
>focus on crossing and set pieces

200 iq post right here

G-Gareth?
Are you alive?

Literally no one can stop the trio of English prospects Sancho-lingard-Odoi feeding balls into Kane's path

very intelligent post

They realy played the bad guys part well.

Hire Pep to unlock Sterling

>Lingard
other than that, yes
the real problem is the lack of a decent holding midfielder and back line