Soccer is stupid because its so random, the best team often loses even when they dominate the match

Soccer is stupid because its so random, the best team often loses even when they dominate the match.

Its just basic statistics, since there are so few scoring chances each game, the variability and therefore chance of an upset is greater.

How many dangerous chances does a team get a game? 5? 10? And each dangerous chance has maybe a 20% chance of converting.


Think about this in basketball, if Team A shoot 50% from the field, and Team B shoot 40%, and there each get 100 shots what are the chances of an upset? Basically zero.

In Soccer Team A may convert 25% of their chances and Team B converts a horrible 10% of their chances and they both only get 10 chances, there is still a big chance of an upset

You can verify this with the binomial probability formula, (nCr) * (probability of a success)^(successes) * (probability of a failure)^(failures)


How do we fix this bros? Smaller fields with bigger goals? Multiball?

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Celtic beating UEFAlona like that is based though.

If you don't win you're not the better team. Simple as.

>Ameristats
I refuse to believe this isn't bait and I hate myself for posting in an obvious troll thread.

>what are free throws
>what are turnovers
>what are offensive rebounds

Fuck off zoomer

>last 7 serie a winners: juventus
>last 6 bundesliga winners: bayern
>13 out of the last 14 la liga winners: real/barca
>4 out of the last 5 PL winners: chelsea/city
>4 out of the last 5 CL winners: real madrid
>italy, germany and brazil have won 65% of world cups

"random"

Americans still coping with their loss against Tripadvisor and Tobacco B team.

Hilarious.

You could make the same post for American Football

hes right though, its too random. I want to see a pure display of skill and athleticism.


How many goals are the result of a corner or shot deflecting and luckily bouncing to someone right in front of an open goal?

And corners and free kicks, pure randomness. Nobody not even Messi is skilled enough to pick out a single head in a crowd of 20 people.

Atletico got two goals like that just last week. Its not a result of skill, rather than luck. Might as well just go watch a game of poker tbqh.

OP is a guaranteed loser. Also, Barcelona is shit (unrelated)

Soccer is the best sport because there’s several ways to play it.

I dont watch american football, I watch basketball where the best team always wins.

You cant get lucky when there are at least 100 shots a game.

>it’s either skill or luck
>tactics and planning mean fuck all
Watch poker then.

hahahahahaha
good thread friendo

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because basketball is barely a team sport, it's 90% individual ability. there's less variance

>good positioning is luck
>implying you can't train set pieces
>implying players can't aim the ball from an aiming position

yes because the spurs and rockets have the same exact play style.

Same with the grizzlies and warriors.

Unlike the great game of soccer at the world cup where we saw france employ several different attacking tactics, such as boot it down the right wing and let ngubu chase it down, or boot it down the left and watch khlaid chase it.

And we cant forget booting it up the middle for a big target man to get control of it, truly genius level tactics

I agree
Just saying that NFL is even worse. Your GOAT's fate came down to one play in every single SB he made

Shot conversion isn't random though, it relies on two factors: quality of player shooting and quality of keeper saving. If a team can't convert their shots it is down to one or both of these two factors, both of which are down to skill. If a team gets 10 shots on target without scoring it is not "unlucky," they did not have the quality in that final action to score, or alternatively the opposition keeper was of such a high quality as to hinder them.

>where the best team always wins

then why has no team gone 72-0?

I'm almost totally convinced that OP is a troll, but he's using the right flag that makes me doubt it a little.

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you can definitely train all of those things, but even if you have prime beckham crossing the ball to ronaldo, what are the chances of scoring? like 10% at most.

skill is a big part of course, but plays in soccer are simply too difficult for them to be reliably successful. even the best like Messi and Ronaldo miss most of their shots and free kicks.

>Think about this in basketball, if Team A shoot 50% from the field, and Team B shoot 40%, and there each get 100 shots what are the chances of an upset? Basically zero.
Why do you think that that's better? They take 100 shots a game, and play 86 games a season just to tell you what you already know, that the Warriors will win. Why is boiling it down to the absolute statistically best team exciting? Just run a simulation, you'll likely get the same result. You have teams starting a season trying to tank. This is exactly why I don't follow the NBA and why basketball is fun to play, boring to watch.

regular season doesnt matter, truly elite teams are unstoppable in the playoffs. even then they will often take a game off in the playoffs if they are up 2-0. Lakers and Warriors both went 15-1 but easily could have won every game if they tried.


try with your own values here,

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no matter the skill difference, in soccer two things will always be true. There will be
1) Less scoring chances and 2) Less chance of conversion on a scoring chance, meaning that the best team has a much higher chance of losing in soccer than in most other sports

You seem to think teams have the same opportunities. Yes, attacks in football rarely lead to goals but better teams have far more attacks than lesser teams naturally.

Ma non è sopportabile che la sciocchina si comporti così davanti a prelibatezze del genere

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>often lose
youre fucking retarded

in American football the playoffs are almost completely different every year. That level of inconsistency is nowhere near euros football.

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Baseball is random as fuck as well -much of it consists of doing what it's supposed to be done and expecting for the best possible outcome-, that's why their regular season is so long. Ice hockey has a randomness component as well, certain hockey goalies may go through 'lucky' strectches that have more to do with instinct than with reacting to the faced shots. NFL is not random per se, but the one game playoff series format surely spices things up in that regard: one mediocre evening for your QB and you're out.

>American actually upset football isn't a predictable simulation game

can we just range ban americans already?

>want to see a pure display of skill and athleticism.
go watch track and field events instead then

>ameristats

>tf
#ouuuu

Most soccer goals are predictable. I can tell you before the guy shoots if he is going to score or not. Hitting fantastic unlikely shots arent as common as getting the ball to an area where the goalie doesn't really have a chance as long as you shoot competently. So no, actual dangerous chances have a much higher conversion rate

I don’t think a zoomer would have the intellect to apply his own ideas into a formula for calculating probability. Let alone formulate their own ideas. That’s what Google is for.

I wasn’t convinced this was a bait thread until I read this post tbqfh

Stop passing sideways and scar sam fakin gals

this is why i never wear skirts in public baka..

>yes because the spurs and rockets have the same exact play style.

>Same with the grizzlies and warriors.

Absolute fucking state of American sport team names. Grow a culture.

That's what makes it kino

> wolves
> hotspurs
> red devils
> gunners


autism

yes but 3 of those 4 are literally just nicknames
i know it might be hard for you to grasp since your teams literally have nicknames in their names

spurs are a meme eternal shitter team anyway so the name kinda fits them

It’s important to remember that there are two fucking teams playing, not one.
The reason why players can’t often hit the ball towards a certain player’s head is because the other team defends well

>team A scores a goal
>team B doesn't
>team B loses
wtf, how do we fix this shit

Doesn't matter, we still beat the Brits!

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>Soccer is the best sport because there’s several ways to play it.

Casually jogging up and down the field randomly kicking the ball
or
Casually jogging down and up the field randomly kicking the ball

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> The Manchester Curry Cookers
> The Rotherham Child Sex Trafficking Ring

Britbong, please.

This has already been studied

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Why would you randomly kick the ball? There's a purpose which is to score. Have you ever even played a game of soccer? Did you just fucking kick the ball to nowhere?

>TONY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

based

>MLB has more skill than NFL
oof

>celtic 2-1 barcelona

it's called a freak result, barcelona have put about 40 goals past celtic in the handful of games they've played them since then.

>poker
>luck.
gr8 b8 m8

>Most soccer goals are predictable. I can tell you before the guy shoots if he is going to score or not.

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100% true besides being a quarterback

>That’s not to say hockey players are any less skilled, but that outcomes in hockey are less representative of true differences in skill between teams, compared to basketball — in large part because the NHL is more competitive. There are many reasons for that, from the design of the leagues to the fundamentals of the gameplay.

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Most stacked nba team in history advanced to finals only because other team had worst 3 point shooting night of the season and you say that football is random.